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Title: Record Unemployment? Bush Says Market Is 'Fair,' 'Equitable'
Source: RAW STORY
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/2009/10/unemplo ... ket-fair-equitable-democratic/
Published: Oct 27, 2009
Author: RAW STORY
Post Date: 2009-10-27 12:16:53 by Brian S
Keywords: None
Views: 1295
Comments: 35

Former President George W. Bush is now on the lecture circuit as a motivational speaker -- and he has a message for America's unemployed: The marketplace is "fair."

Speaking in Forth Worth, Texas in his debut as a motivational speaker, Bush's speech echoed some of his themes as president. But his comments on the economy are sure to rankle the millions of Americans who've been laid off.

“The marketplace works," Bush remarked. "It is fair. It is equitable. It is a fair form of democracy.”

Bush addressed a crowd of 11,000 who paid for a verbal injection of enthusiasm from the former president.

“Every single day I was honored to be your president by bringing honor and dignity to the office,” a local newspaper quoted Bush as saying during the day-long "Get Motivated" seminar.

His message to those whose decisions have made them unpopular?

“It’s so simple in life to chase popularity, but popularity is fleeting," Bush quipped. "It’s not real."

Bush also sought to mollify critics who've argued that politics played too much of a role in his decisionmaking in going to war, saying he'd never sell out "their loved ones for the sake of pure politics."

"And let me tell you," he added. "I never did.”

Also in the crowd was Bush's first Secretary of State, Colin Powell, who praised the president's legacy, positing that Bush had kept America safe after 9/11.

Bush also highlighted his faith in God as contributing to the success of his presidency.

"I don't see how you can be president without relying on the Almighty," the ex-president declared. "Now when I was 21, I wouldn't have told you that, but at age 63, I can tell you that one of the most amazing surprises of the presidency was the fact that people's prayers affected me. I can't prove it to you. But I can tell you some days were great, some days not so great. But every day was joyous."

The Washington Post, who had a reporter at the event, said Bush looked "younger than his 63 years and relaxed."

"Many people interviewed afterward said they liked Bush, perhaps even because he wasn't the best speaker of the day," the Post reported added. "He could have said a thesaurus was a big scaly creature that roamed the planet millions of years ago and they would have applauded."

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

Bush isn't President any longer.

Pointing fingers at him was fine when he was in office, but he's no longer in office. At some point, Obama and his minions are going to be forced to take responsibility for things.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-27   12:27:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: bs (#0)

You have to be the ultimate partisan pivot person left on 4um...now turn back on obamalamadingdong and do your thing brian.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-27   12:29:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: SonOfLiberty (#1)

Bush isn't President any longer.

Oh spare me. You nattering neocons still blame most everything imaginable on Bill Clinton to this very day...

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-10-27   12:33:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Brian S (#3)

Oh spare me.

No, in fact I won't. Bush is out of office. Barry and his mindless zombies need to man up and start to take some responsibility for their bullshit.

You nattering neocons still blame most everything imaginable on Bill Clinton to this very day...

I'm not a neocon and am on the record repeatedly as despising Bush and being against his bologna wars. I was protesting the Iraq war back when followers like you and other leftists were out seeing who could fly their flags the highest.

Your attempt to apply a label you're comfortable with in order to smear, has failed BrianS. Now, put on the big boy pants and hold your man-child king accountable for once.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-27   12:38:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Brian S (#3)

ha! SonOfLiberty a neocon?

what's your definition of a neocon? not a democrat?

christine  posted on  2009-10-27   12:38:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: christine (#5)

ha! SonOfLiberty a neocon?

Funny ain't it? It's the kneejerk statist thing though, look for a boogeyman that they know, to knock down, instead of addressing a critic with reason.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-27   12:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: bs, NEOCON play toy, world Kommie moran, utter tool (#3)

Oh spare me. You nattering neocons still blame most everything imaginable on Bill Clinton to this very day...

YOU are THE ultimate NEOCON on Freedom4um, monkey sucker...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-27   12:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: SonOfLiberty (#1)

Some folks are just mental - they not only voted for O'Bingo, but they support the heaps of socialism he's tossing at us. Always consider the source, or should I say souse.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-27   12:41:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: SonOfLiberty (#4)

I was protesting the Iraq war back when followers like you and other leftists were out seeing who could fly their flags the highest.

I never supported the Iraq war, ever.

Fact of the matter is Jorge and I parted company when he launched the illegal invasion of that country.

If you care not to read articles on the Bush klan, I suggest you resist the urge to clink on any link suggesting they are the topic.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-10-27   12:42:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#5)

what's your definition of a neocon? not a democrat?

LOL


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-27   12:43:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Jethro Tull (#8)

When the cold war in duhmerrriKa goes hot and people stop taking it, after the victory I will continue on hunting down the mouthpieces such as these until there are none of them left in my nation.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-27   12:44:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: bs (#9)

Fact of the matter is Jorge and I parted company when he launched the illegal invasion of that country.

booooosh was a Democrat NEOCON you could get behind; ehehe...eh bs ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-27   12:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Brian S (#9)

I never supported the Iraq war, ever.

So how it is you automatically assume others have, because they don't like Obama? Seems to me you need to think before you post.

Fact of the matter is Jorge and I parted company when he launched the illegal invasion of that country.

That late in the game, eh?

I was against him before he was sworn in. From CFR, to "prescription drugs for AARP" to other heinous acts he perpetrated under the mantle of supposed small- government conservatism, Bush was a clear travesty in the making for anybody with eyesight.

If you care not to read articles on the Bush klan, I suggest you resist the urge to clink on any link suggesting they are the topic.

What I care to do, or not do, is my business. What I do enjoy doing though is taking statists to task when they try diversion tactics to keep the spotlight off of their own boy's foibles. Which, as it happens, is what you do in a large part on this forum. Get used to opposition.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-27   12:46:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Brian S (#3)

I hate flaming, but I will say that your complete lack of political discernment as far as posters here goes leaves you with zero credibility on this forum.

Your predictably tepid ad hominems are lame enough, but the false ones you raise are the quickest way to blow any and all arguments you tender all to hell.

Honestly, I don't know why you post here.

randge  posted on  2009-10-27   12:47:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#5)

what's your definition of a neocon? not a democrat?

Yeah, that works for me. If I'm a commie, socialist, liberal, nazi, nigger-lover then the rest of 'you people' can be nattering neocons. Besides, if one just scratches the surface on your friends you will indeed find a neocon under all that righteous rhetoric.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-10-27   12:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge (#14)

I hate flaming, but I will say that your complete lack of political discernment as far as posters here goes leaves you with zero credibility on this forum.

Credibility with this 'crowd' is the least of my concerns. Never was, never will be.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-10-27   12:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Rotara (#11)

The Obama Units appear to be in meltdown. They honestly thought the Empty Suit would steamroll real Americans. Partisan Ds are such slimy creatures...

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-27   12:53:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Brian S (#15)

Besides, if one just scratches the surface on your friends you will indeed find a neocon under all that righteous rhetoric.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Not in an ignorant kind of way, but in an intentionally obtuse kind of way. Some people, back when words meant things, would have called that dishonesty and lying in order to smear.

You've scratched no surface, and it seems you don't have the capacity to do so, or you'd know my positions and realize how idiotic your pronouncements are in retrospect.

Being against your man-child king doesn't mean one is for neoconservatism. Since I spout none of their terms nor endorse any of their policies, then what you say is merely a smear. However, when you come out for things that are socialist, and others call you on it, that is a fair call. It's only when your status is *not* the term applied to you, that you can claim some kind of silly exemption.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-27   12:54:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: bs (#15)

Best you leave for nestier pastures then, eh NEOCON-Kommie duhmerrriKan shit stain excuse of a carbon form ?


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-27   12:55:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Brian S (#16)

Credibility with this 'crowd' is the least of my concerns. Never was, never will be.

Which explains why you spend so much time here posting propaganda pieces.

You clearly wish to be perceived as credible. If you didn't, then your previous article postings would be automatically discredited. Is that your goal, to thorougly discredit your man-child king? Because if so, that's cool.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-27   12:55:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: bs (#16) (Edited)

Credibility with this 'crowd' is the least of my concerns. Never was, never will be.

Whoever gives you cred deserves to be packed off to afpakiraqistan along with you; TODAY !


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-27   12:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Brian S (#15)

None of my "friends" are these.

What's the difference between "conservative" and "neoconservative"? Who are the "neocons," anyway? And were they, as some charge, an unduly influential cabal of intellectuals who talked President Bush into going to war in Iraq after 9/11 as part of their long-planned crusade to plant democracy in the Middle East? To seek enlightenment on things neoconservative, I rang up four of the biggest names in the punditry business and asked them the same questions. Rich Lowry is editor of National Review. Paul Weyrich is chairman and CEO of the Free Congress Foundation. Paul Gigot is editor of The Wall Street Journal's editorial page. And George Will is the famous syndicated columnist:

Q: What is a neoconservative and who are they?

Rich Lowry: Historically, 30 years ago it meant a former liberal who became a conservative. The cliche was because "they were mugged by reality," but it was because they saw the empirical failures of liberal welfare, state and foreign policies, and they were therefore less ideological than other conservatives and brought much more of a social science background to their argumentation.

They were associated with Irving Kristol's journal, the Public Interest, that had a lot of social-science pieces poking empirical holes in liberal theory. These people were former liberals, former Democrats, and in some cases former communists, but gradually over 30 years they really merged into the conservative mainstream, and the difference was very difficult to tell.

In fact, one of the foremost neoconservatives, Norman Podhoretz, wrote an obituary for this distinction several years ago because it just seemed to no longer matter. We've seen the rise of it again, first of all, with John McCain's candidacy in 2000, where the segment of conservatives that supported Sen. McCain tended to have more neo-kind of tendencies and tended to sort of self-consciously describe themselves as "neoconservatives," foremost among them Bill Kristol and David Brooks.

Neoconservatives are less skeptical of government than other conservatives. They are less worried about reducing the size of government, less enthusiastic about tax cuts, more concerned about forging national crusades that can tap either the American public's patriotism or its desire for reform. You saw this in McCain with his campaign finance proposal and a little bit in his foreign policy.

And with the war on terror, you saw neoconservatives emerging as a distinct tendency within conservatism, mostly on foreign policy; its hallmarks being extreme interventionism, extremely idealistic foreign policy, and emphasis on democracy building and spreading human rights and freedom and an overestimation, in my view, of how easy it is to spread democracy and liberty to spots in the world where it doesn't exist currently.

Paul Weyrich: They are mostly ex-liberals, by and large out of the intellectual community. These are people who came to the realization that modern liberalism was not the kind of liberalism that they had subscribed to. They are a fairly small group of people, both in and out of government. Those who are out of government are in either the media or academia. They are influential because they promote each other. They are very skilled at that.

Paul Gigot: I think of neoconservatism as having a very specific meaning related to history. That is, the neoconservatives were people who in the 1970s were former liberals, in some cases socialists, who moved right in reaction to the left's shift on cultural mores, personal responsibility and foreign policy. So I think the term "neoconservative" has that narrow meaning of that historical period. I think of them as the Podhoretzes and the Kristols and others. I don't think "neoconservative" means much anymore. I don't know what it means now or who they're referring to.

George Will: Oh gosh, that's not simple. Neoconservatives are persons who in domestic policy often were former Democrats who felt that conservatives had erred in not accepting the post-New Deal role of the central government. They were in their early incarnation focusing on domestic policy and were distinguishing themselves from Goldwater conservatives.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/s_196286.html

christine  posted on  2009-10-27   13:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Jethro Tull (#17)

The Obama Units appear to be in meltdown. They honestly thought the Empty Suit would steamroll real Americans. Partisan Ds are such slimy creatures...

Partisanship, at this late date, only helps to identify realllllly stoooooopid people.

The crooning-Kommie-wolves are worse, IMO, than stooooopid sheep, for obvious reasons.

The fact is we're surrounded by stupid people, evil people and the only way back requires a LOT of pain and destruction.


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-27   13:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Brian S (#16)

Credibility with this 'crowd' is the least of my concerns. Never was, never will be.

Hey, careful. You're not on Jackass here.

That's a post from which taglines are made.

randge  posted on  2009-10-27   13:02:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: SonOfLiberty (#18)

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Not in an ignorant kind of way, but in an intentionally obtuse kind of way.

Their intellectual dishonesty is a glaring identifier...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-27   13:02:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: christine (#22)

bump


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2009-10-27   13:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Brian S (#0)

Credibility with this 'crowd' is the least of my concerns.

'bout time you took that mask off. Anyone who voted for Obama as you did, and still to this day support him, is indeed in the wrong 'crowd' here. Please join your brethren in the Nest. Your socialism blows hard.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-10-27   13:08:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Brian S (#0)

It so funny to see all those who profess to despise Bush get their panties in a wad everytime their "hero" is dissed. lol.

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-27   13:19:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: mininggold (#28)

It's equally funny to watch some of our fellow men wallow in the muck of their own ignorance.

There is no one that posts on this forum, except for the likes of occasional migrants from places like LP, that considers any of the Bushes a "hero," nor do they give a damn if he is "dissed."

Yer barkin' up the wrong tree here, junior.

randge  posted on  2009-10-27   13:29:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: mininggold (#28)

It so funny to see all those who profess to despise Bush get their panties in a wad everytime their "hero" is dissed. lol.

Like I said, all you have to due is scratch their surface...

;)

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2009-10-27   13:38:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Brian S (#30)

Like I said, all you have to due is scratch their surface...

Then you fail to grasp anything being said. Your partisan blinders have left you bereft of sight.

I found people who were out after Clinton during Dubya's term to be absolute blithering idiots. Clinton was out of office, they needed to address their own boy in office, and I said so at the time.

And I feel, and am saying, the same thing about you. Maybe someday you'll mature enough to realize that life isn't the party or man you're loyal to, and come to value the well being of the nation ahead of partisanship.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-10-27   13:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: randge (#29)

There is no one that posts on this forum, except for the likes of occasional migrants from places like LP, that considers any of the Bushes a "hero," nor do they give a damn if he is "dissed."

Yet inspite of your inference, it's still plain as day that some of the most so called fervent Bush policies despisers here get their panties in a wad everytime their hero is not portrayed in a shining reverent light. Classic minimizers.

It's called behavior over BS.

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-27   13:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: SonOfLiberty (#31)

You can bloviate all you want but the posts are there for all to see. Got logic?

mininggold  posted on  2009-10-27   13:45:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: mininggold (#32)

it's still plain as day that some of the most so called fervent Bush policies despisers here get their panties in a wad everytime their hero is not portrayed in a shining reverent light.

my and your interpretation of posts are obviously very different. i haven't seen anyone on 4um getting their panties in a wad over criticism of bush and his policies except for the very few bushbots from LP who have posted here on few occasions. fifty yard line, Mudboy, and packrat were the last i can recall.

christine  posted on  2009-10-27   14:07:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: mininggold (#32)

I'm not a prolific poster here, but I peek in here almost daily and I cannot recall any of the "fervent Bush policies despisers here" getting their hackles up when any Bush is dissed.

May I challenge you to document such, however you chose to define the "Bush policies despisers here"?

randge  posted on  2009-10-27   14:08:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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