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Title: Interesting post
Source: LP
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=276955&Disp=10#C10
Published: Oct 30, 2009
Author: Murron
Post Date: 2009-10-30 06:39:29 by randge
Keywords: None
Views: 43166
Comments: 433

81. To: AGAviator, goldi-lox (#76)

The host site at http://www.inetebiz.com/ will soon act on the fact LP is a hate site, uses perveerted language and images and members advocating the violent overthrow of the government, promoting racism, etc.

No ISP that would want to be associated with that.

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Destro posted on 2009-10-30 03:31:02 ET Reply Trace 3. To: Goldi-Lox, out damned spot, Marguerite, mel_living, beyond the sea, yukon, domer, sneakypete, Willie Green, fitz, blackhorse, packrat1145, fitz, Blutarsky, Don, Joe Snuffy, GarySpFc, JLO, Mad Dog, Itzlzha, ALL (#1)

Destro: "The host site at http://www.inetebiz.com/ will soon act on the fact LP is a hate site, uses perveerted language and images and members advocating the violent overthrow of the government, promoting racism, etc. No ISP that would want to be associated with that."

63. To: Destro (#40)

Destro: "I am getting this website banned from public access computers like in libraries because of it."

A Pole: "Do you mean that I will lose my library access to LP? "

A Pole posted on 2009-10-29 10:00:53 ET Reply Trace

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A very social democrat, no?

Or was it a christian democrat?

I forget which.

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#149. To: Hayek Fan (#145) (Edited)

1. Fight for survival? LOLOL! What a drama queen. The United States government under the control of the Republicrat and Democan parties is a million-fold more of a threat to you and your family than any towel head on the other side of the world is.

2. The fight for survival is between your freedom and the government you so desperately want to protect you.

3. And you want people on this site to believe you are an anarchist? Who are you trying to kid?

4. You can't be an anarchist while hanging on to the skirts of government yelling "protect me, protect me" at the same time.

1. It's more a "line forms to the left" situation as to who wants to destroy the U.S. and mass-murder the U.S. population.

2. So, "death panels" are protection to you?

3. I have never asked government for anything.

4. Two enemies decide to fight each other. Who am I too complain.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-30   17:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#150. To: Hayek Fan, PaulCJ (#136)

You are so scared of the bogyman that you have lost the ability to think rationally. Hey sparky, there is absolutely nothing preventing "the terrorists" from coming over here right now. Our border's are wide open and have been for more than a decade. Do you think GI's holed up in the population center's of Afghanistan are actually stopping anyone from coming over here? LOL!

Hear, hear, Hayek Fan!

On the subject of Afghanistan and what our military is achieving there, here's a good Wash Post article which both of you might find informative re: the recent resignation of a high level State Dept official, a former Marine Captain, btw. Mr. Hoh's revelations are timely, indeed, because Obama is considering sending 40,000 more soldiers to Afghanistan.

www.washingtonpost.com/wp...pnews&sid=ST2009102603447

“U.S. official resigns over Afghan war: Foreign Service officer and former Marine captain says he no longer knows why his nation is fighting” 10/27/09

Some cut and paste:

..."I'm not some peacenik, pot-smoking hippie who wants everyone to be in love," Hoh said...But many Afghans, he wrote in his resignation letter, are fighting the United States largely because its troops are there -- a growing military presence in villages and valleys where outsiders, including other Afghans, are not welcome and where the corrupt, U.S.-backed national government is rejected. While the Taliban is a malign presence, and Pakistan-based al-Qaeda needs to be confronted, he said, the United States is asking its troops to die in Afghanistan for what is essentially a far-off civil war...

..."We want to have some kind of governance there, and we have some obligation for it not to be a bloodbath," Hoh said. "But you have to draw the line somewhere, and say this is their problem to solve."...

... American families, he said at the end of the letter, "must be reassured their dead have sacrificed for a purpose worthy of futures lost, love vanished, and promised dreams unkept. I have lost confidence such assurances can be made any more."...

scrapper2  posted on  2009-10-30   18:03:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: PaulCJ (#149)

1. It's more a "line forms to the left" situation as to who wants to destroy the U.S. and mass-murder the U.S. population.

It must be very stressful going through life being such a coward.

2. So, "death panels" are protection to you?

I did not vote for Obama, do not support Obama, and am against government health care, so I don't understand what that means. Unlike yourself, I do not look to the government to protect me from bogymen. I am well armed and know how to defend myself with or without a weapon and have no fear whatsoever that some Islamic bogyman is going to come and get me. If you can't get rid of that fear then you should either move to a smaller community or see a psychiatrist as it's probably a chemical imbalance.

3. I have never asked government for anything.

That's not true. You are asking the government to send soldiers into harm's way and die in order to make you "feel" safe.

4. Two enemies decide to fight each other. Who am I too complain.

The members of the United States military are not your enemy. The government that controls them and issues them orders is.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-30   18:12:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#152. To: PaulCJ, Hayek Fan (#141)

Then what is your solution?

A little background at first. At one time I hated muslims as much, maybe more than what you do. 4 years ago or so I visited my brother who lives near Detroit. His neighbor is Muslim and they invited us over for a outside backyard party. I did not want to go but my brother was invited and I did not want to be by myself. 90% of the people there were Muslim and most were 1st generation. I was expecting the worst, derogatory remarks anti america, generally being shunned-that sort of thing. Instead the people there treated us great. Every been to a polish wedding?? Take a polish get together times 2 on the friendly scale. That was a pivotal moment in my life where I started to question posters on FR and their "let's nuke them, kill all the muzzies comments"

95% of the muslim peope are great, they want the same thing you do in life- a good education for their kids, a nice job, nice place to live etc . It's the very local violant 5% the world has problems with. There is a article n National Geographic this month regarding Syria. You need to read it. The people in Syria hate Al Quada.

My solution? Get the peaceful and moderate muslims to hold the fire to the feet of the violant ones. We can no longer solve this miltarily as Hayek Fan has pointed out much better than myself.

belmontconservative  posted on  2009-10-30   18:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#153. To: PaulCJ, Hayek Fan, Horse (#149)

It's more a "line forms to the left" situation as to who wants to destroy the U.S. and mass-murder the U.S. population.

Paul, here's a publication that might interest you on the subject of mass-murder and wanton destruction.

www.veteransforpeace.org/.../WarCrimesTimesFall09.pdf

More information about the organization, comprised of US vets, that published the piece can be found here:

www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=109453

scrapper2  posted on  2009-10-30   18:15:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: scrapper2 (#150)

Mr. Hoh will likely be demonized by PaulCJ and the rest of the armchair commando's on LP. It's all part of how they "support the troops."

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-30   18:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#155. To: PaulCJ (#148)

. Yea, you want people to ignore the dangers happening in the world.

Paul The Muslims have much more to worry about(losing their culture) than the people in the west. The entire world is becoming westernized at a rapid place-and that includes the muslim countries.

What is Iran's population mix?? Something like 40-50% of the population is less than 25 years old. Something to that effect.

They wear jeans and US hip clothes, go to US fast food style restaunts, post on Youtube and listen to their Ipods and did I mention they just LOVE western culture.

belmontconservative  posted on  2009-10-30   18:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: belmontconservative (#152)

I lived in Turkey, Belgium and Germany while growing up as a military brat and lived and worked with Saudi's, Kuwaiti's, Somalian's and Bosnian Muslim's during my time in the army. They are just people like everyone else. Maybe that's why I do not see them as bogymen. My guess is that the majority of those who do are either Israeli-firsters or Americans who have never been out of the country and are xenophobic. This idea that all muslim's are these red-eyed devils waiting to slit open our throat's is cartoonish at best.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-30   18:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#157. To: Hayek Fan (#151)

It must be very stressful going through life being such a coward.

Stating a problem is the first part of solving that problem. The U.S. population has more enemies than it has allies.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-30   18:28:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: belmontconservative (#155)

The Muslims have much more to worry about(losing their culture) than the people in the west.

More like westerners are more worried about losing their culture to politicial correctness or islam.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-30   18:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#159. To: PaulCJ (#157)

The U.S. population has more enemies than it has allies.

Yeah. That damned US media making everyone hate us for our freedoms. /sarcasm.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-30   18:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#160. To: Hayek Fan (#154)

Mr. Hoh will likely be demonized by PaulCJ and the rest of the armchair commando's on LP. It's all part of how they "support the troops."

You are one of the one's throwing insults at those who disagree with you.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-30   18:30:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#161. To: PaulCJ (#157)

Stating a problem is the first part of solving that problem

Killing every Muslim man, woman and child on the face of the Earth in order to make you feel safe is not a solution it's a fantasy.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-30   18:31:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: belmontconservative (#152)

95% of the muslim peope are great, they want the same thing you do in life- a good education for their kids, a nice job, nice place to live etc . It's the very local violant 5% the world has problems with. There is a article n National Geographic this month regarding Syria. You need to read it. The people in Syria hate Al Quada.

If the 95% of muslims can stop the other 5% and get a hold and stop the more fanatical approaches of islam, then I will likely change my opinion of muslim religion to a more positive position.

I am sure 95% of the communists in the world are nice, though the part of the 5% of the communists in D.C. wants the heads of my family, friends and myself on pikes because of either us either being white skinned, conservative/libertarian, or part of the middle class (it all depends on what those in D.C. are demonizing that day).

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-30   18:35:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#163. To: Hayek Fan (#161)

Killing every Muslim man, woman and child on the face of the Earth in order to make you feel safe is not a solution it's a fantasy.

I am not part of the "sheet of glass" group. I posed a radical suggestion to stop muslim fanatics to see if anyone could come up with a less destructive, more productive solution. That solution has yet to appear.

To many people prefer to complain and make insults instead.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-30   18:37:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Hayek Fan (#151)

The members of the United States military are not your enemy.

True, but those in D.C. who command the U.S. military are the enemies of the U.S. population.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-30   18:38:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#165. To: PaulCJ (#158)

More like westerners are more worried about losing their culture to politicial correctness or islam.

As Hayek has opointed out you need to travel throughout the world more often.

belmontconservative  posted on  2009-10-30   18:44:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#166. To: Pinguinite, christine (#23)

At this point, all internet traffic should be encrypted. It's as simple as that.

I'll donate the encryption software that I found if you can make it work with the 4um. Not that it is very expensive... maybe $45 for a one site license.


Let me get this straight.

Obama's health care plan shall be written by a committee whose head says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it, signed by a president who smokes and has no birth certificate, funded by a treasury chief who did not pay his taxes, overseen by a surgeon general who is overweight and financed by a country that is nearly broke.

What could possibly go wrong? - buckeroo

Critter  posted on  2009-10-30   18:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#167. To: PaulCJ (#158) (Edited)

More like westerners are more worried about losing their culture to politicial correctness or islam.

Think more carefully about the multitude of ACLU's anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual family unit lawsuits - is it Muslims who generate them?

Think about the decadence promoted by Hollywood and TV media and the growth of the pornography industry - is it Muslims who control Hollywood and media and porno film industry manufacturing?

Think about the origins of political correctness and from what quarter that philosophy came.

Think about our nation's current slavish worship of multi-culturalism/diversity that replaced melting-pot philosophy - do you think Muslims are responsible for that?

Think about the leaders in movements like feminism, pro-abortion, homosexuality...the names are not Muslim.

scrapper2  posted on  2009-10-30   18:47:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#168. To: Fred Mertz (#115)

The hits just keep on coming.

336. To: Don (#316) I had to work with her and avoid her advances every morning. I'm past the point of GARA if she decides to ban me. She's very lucky, we had a lot of breast cancer where we worked. Those flat chested girls didn't have that problem.

I had "hiding places" for my coffee cup so I could wait until she would vacate the "hot water pot" before I got my coffee. She could fund this board for a week or month if the money/time I spent avoiding her went towards the board.

BTW, I bought the "hot water pot" with money from the coffee fund. I'm not sure she put her dime in for coffee, sugar and that fake milk stuff. It was an honor system. Like 1984, some animals think they are better than others.

reaganisright posted on 2009-10-30 18:18:42 ET

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-10-30   18:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#169. To: PaulCJ (#158) (Edited)

More like westerners are more worried about losing their culture to politicial correctness or islam.

Paul, as I pointed out they have more to worry about losing their culture than we have to worry losing our western culture to islam.

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The mall houses few of the world’s renowned fashion chains, restaurants, a hypermarket, coffee shops, entertainment venues and 11-screen Cineplex. Few of the renowned outlets in the mall are the Zara, Debenhams, Lacoste, Guess, NEXT, H&M, GAP, MEXX, Diesel, and IKEA and the Carrefour hypermarket, which is one of the largest hypermarket chains in the world.

As for the foodies, the mall includes the well-known fast food outlets including the Pizza Express, T.G.I. Friday’s, Ruby Tuesday’s, Nando’s, Chili’s, Pizza Hut, Johnny Rockets, KFC, McDonald’s, Pizza Express, KFC, Burger King, Hardee’s, Costa Coffee, Starbucks, Caribou Coffee, Le Notre, Dunkin’ Donuts, The Chocolate Bar, Columbus Coffee, and the Krispy Kreme.

belmontconservative  posted on  2009-10-30   18:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#170. To: PaulCJ (#160)

You are one of the one's throwing insults at those who disagree with you.

Calling you a chicken hawk is not an insult it's the truth. You advocate the murder of women and children because their men fight a foreign occupation army in the same way that we would if the shoe were on the other foot. You advocate continued war on the entire Muslim population with the rationale that they all want to kill us and that we are in a "war for our very survival" yet absolutely refuse to shoulder any responsible or participate in "saving" the nation.

I believe chickenhawk is the most polite and truthful term I could use to describe you.

As for the rest, you are right, I did throw insults. No snot nosed kid who refuses to fight against the Muslim hoard he claims is out to destroy this nation (your words) is going call me names without getting an ass chewing when I've been put in harm's way for this country.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-10-30   18:57:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#171. To: PaulCJ (#148)

double-speak

Doublespeak? I didn't mean to be oblique. Let me try to be clearer, then. You're an armchair infantry, let's-you-and-him fight coward with the mental capacity of a retarded garden slug, you inbred felchwaffle.

You wanna kill Muslims, sign up, join up, and get the fuck to where most of them are.

There. That should have removed most of the ambiguity from it.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-10-30   18:59:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#172. To: Samuel Gray (#168)

I'm past the point of GARA

I'm tired and hungry but what is GARA?

belmontconservative  posted on  2009-10-30   19:02:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#173. To: abraxas (#146)

This sure soundls like a threat to me........

Destro: "I am getting this website banned from public access computers like in libraries because of it."

That is not a threat but a public service. You left off the part where the thing that will get LP banned is its online poster's obscene not meant for public viewing by kids content. No threat involved.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2009-10-30   19:04:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#174. To: PaulCJ, Hayek Fan, belmontconservative (#156)

I lived in Turkey, Belgium and Germany while growing up as a military brat and lived and worked with Saudi's, Kuwaiti's, Somalian's and Bosnian Muslim's during my time in the army. They are just people like everyone else.

I'll restate this for the thousandth time on these forums.

I lived in the Gulf for five years, cheek by jowl with Muslims. I have to stretch my memory to recall even the very few Muslims that were even the least bit militant out of the thousands that met and the hundreds that I got to know well enough to know what made them tick.

The average Arab or Muslim is concerned first of all with his family. Do they have all the good stuff materially? Can he find his daughter a decent guy? Will his son go to a good school? Does his wife have everything she needs and wants? Then he is concerned with finding and keeping a decent job. Thirdly, there is his social life, which I have found is even more precious to him than it is to Americans with our relatively atomized culture.

The average Arab or Muslim is pretty cynical about politics and is as likely to be nearly as cynical about democracy as he is to the sort of ruling elites that he obligated to pay homage to. A great number of these people like our culture and know far more about it than we know of theirs.

In my experience I have met far, far more Americans with a chip on their shoulders that are willing to sign up and whack ragheads than Arabs who want to sign up and fight us.

But put armed men on someone else's soil and in someone else' streets and you'll find their attitudes changed. That's true everywhere and in all times. Then your only choice will be the Roman Way. You'll have to conscript citizens and stand on subjects' necks. For generations. And you know what? We can't and won't do it because we are not Romans.

I believe that we are coming to the end of our rope with these adventures, and I for one am glad about that.

randge  posted on  2009-10-30   19:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#175. To: belmontconservative (#172)

Giv(ing) a rat's ass (GARA)

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-10-30   19:07:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#176. To: Destro (#173)

The host site at http://www.inetebiz.com/ will soon act on the fact LP is a hate site, uses perveerted language and images and members advocating the violent overthrow of the government, promoting racism, etc.

Did you also write this?

What is racist or anti-government or violent is, in many cases, dependent on how that material is individually construed.

One wonders, with due respect, if posters here should be concerned about this prospect.

randge  posted on  2009-10-30   19:09:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#177. To: PaulCJ (#62)

Yea, I did. I also suggested that a muslim mosque, or muslim holy site be destroyed for each muslim terrorist act committed.

So for each Palestinian child killed by the IDF, should a synagogue be blown up, or for each Afghan or Iraqi killed by a Christian soldier, should a church be blown up?

That IS your logic, isn't it?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2009-10-30   19:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#178. To: Samuel Gray (#168)

This stuff is classic. Did Gump get banned yet?

I'm almost caught up over there. Screw football (WVU vs. SF)...I've got elPee.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-10-30   20:29:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#179. To: randge (#176)

What is racist or anti-government or violent is, in many cases, dependent on how that material is individually construed.

I gave examples in the body of this thread as to what I am talking about. Also were constant posts about fellatio, beastiality acts, genocidal acts and so on by Goldi's collection of kooks and wierdos.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2009-10-30   20:32:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#180. To: Fred Mertz, Samuel Gray (#178)

Looks like reaganisright and Goldi worked in an office where they traded porn tapes around. Makes sense she is who she is now when that is known!

http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=276986&Disp=335#C335

"I had an assistant for a short time named Sharon, but never had an "office". Seems she took home the "movie" the guys shared, and lost all of their respect afterwards"

That would be "Skonervision", we showed that movie to the top brass at our Oyster Roast, a party that went back to the 50s and we always had porn, no way in HE77 she lost respect for the same movie the girls in purchasing passed around every night. And it wasn't even good porn, it was filth. You got that one wrong. You don't have a clue. BTW, that film was shown at the Oyster Roast I hosted.

"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.

Destro  posted on  2009-10-30   20:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#181. To: Destro (#130)

Fred can you tell Goldi for me that if she sues my lawyers...

Nope on that one. She replied to your last comment to her that I communicated.

I don't want to see legal stuff/ lawsuits about a chat forum.

Fred Mertz  posted on  2009-10-30   20:45:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#182. To: Hayek Fan (#156)

My guess is that the majority of those who do are either Israeli-firsters or Americans who have never been out of the country and are xenophobic. This idea that all muslim's are these red-eyed devils waiting to slit open our throat's is cartoonish at best.

I might guess there are more ill informed Americans who are ready to slit Muslim's throat's than the tiny percentage of Islam radicals that are actionable to the same violence.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-10-30   20:54:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#183. To: belmontconservative (#152)

That was a pivotal moment in my life where I started to question posters on FR and their "let's nuke them, kill all the muzzies comments"

Outside of tortured communities, Islam society is criminally much safer place to be than western societies.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-10-30   20:58:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#184. To: PaulCJ (#162)

, though the part of the 5% of the communists in D.C. wants the heads of my family, friends and myself on pikes because of either us either being white skinned, conservative/libertarian, or part of the middle class (it all depends on what those in D.C. are demonizing that day).

Nuts.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2009-10-30   21:01:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#185. To: FormerLurker (#177)

So for each Palestinian child killed by the IDF, should a synagogue be blown up, or for each Afghan or Iraqi killed by a Christian soldier, should a church be blown up?

Depends on who first started the battle in question.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-30   21:07:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#186. To: Fred Mertz (#181)

I don't blame you - I just wanted her to dance some more for my amusment. I have her email. This was better than any sports on TV today.

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Destro  posted on  2009-10-30   21:07:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#187. To: Samuel Gray (#171)

Doublespeak? I didn't mean to be oblique. Let me try to be clearer, then. You're an armchair infantry, let's-you-and-him fight coward with the mental capacity of a retarded garden slug, you inbred felchwaffle.

And you are posting this while standing? LOL!

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-30   21:09:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#188. To: PaulCJ (#162)

If the 95% of muslims can stop the other 5% and get a hold and stop the more fanatical approaches of islam, then I will likely change my opinion o

Paul, The British and, unfortunately, the US, actions toward the Islam world has been by far the most fueled propellant for the radicalization of Islamic attitudes V. the west in the last few centuries.

Our foreign policies and short sighted, arrogant hubris, has, quite understandably, fed their nationalistic and religion paranoia, and thus radicalized some members of their community.

Israel Looms high in this. Our unrepentant support for the many crimes the Zionists has proven, to much of the Islam world, that the US will always support the predatory racist views of Zion V. the people of Islam.

So far their analysis seem entirely correct.

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tom007  posted on  2009-10-30   21:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#189. To: Hayek Fan (#170) (Edited)

You advocate the murder of women and children because their men fight a foreign occupation army in the same way that we would if the shoe were on the other foot.

You sound like someone with "stockholm syndrome".

With that statement, you are defending the terrorists blowing up U.S. soldiers and civilians.

That is quite hypocritical of you.

Yet, you complain about my SUGGEST, while defending terrorists that are doing worse acts.

My suggestion has not happened in reality.

You are on the other hand are defending actions THAT HAVE ACTUALLY HAPPENED! Suffering that has actually happened! Deaths that has actually happens!

You need to think long and hard about what you have posted.

PaulCJ  posted on  2009-10-30   21:12:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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