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Title: Interesting post
Source: LP
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=276955&Disp=10#C10
Published: Oct 30, 2009
Author: Murron
Post Date: 2009-10-30 06:39:29 by randge
Keywords: None
Views: 43623
Comments: 433

81. To: AGAviator, goldi-lox (#76)
The host site at http://www.inetebiz.com/ will soon act on the fact LP is a hate site, uses perveerted language and images and members advocating the violent overthrow of the government, promoting racism, etc.
No ISP that would want to be associated with that.

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Destro posted on 2009-10-30 03:31:02 ET Reply Trace 3. To: Goldi-Lox, out damned spot, Marguerite, mel_living, beyond the sea, yukon, domer, sneakypete, Willie Green, fitz, blackhorse, packrat1145, fitz, Blutarsky, Don, Joe Snuffy, GarySpFc, JLO, Mad Dog, Itzlzha, ALL (#1)
Destro: "The host site at http://www.inetebiz.com/ will soon act on the fact LP is a hate site, uses perveerted language and images and members advocating the violent overthrow of the government, promoting racism, etc. No ISP that would want to be associated with that."

63. To: Destro (#40)
Destro: "I am getting this website banned from public access computers like in libraries because of it."
A Pole: "Do you mean that I will lose my library access to LP? "
A Pole posted on 2009-10-29 10:00:53 ET Reply Trace

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A very social democrat, no?
Or was it a christian democrat?
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#213. To: mininggold (#211)
1. I doubt they can hold a candle to the other tribe's ADL, AIPAC etc. lawsuits.
2. The threat to western culture has come from within, dual citizens for the most part with allegiance NOT to the US.

1. The U.S. is being attacked on several fronts.
2. I completely agree. A person cannot be loyal to two different nations.
It is hard enough to balance one's loyal to one's family and one's nation.

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-31 12:34:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#214. To: PaulCJ (#209)
A U.N. resolution that makes it a crime for people in western nations to criticize islam

Rather selective on what you deem a threat. Israel has pushed these laws in all over the western world and I haven't heard a peep out of you. The ADL, right here at home, sues or pesonally destroys people with an anti-semetic label for the slightest criticism of ISRAEL, not even for criticizing the Jewish faith.
So, do you deem the these radical Jewish groups a threat to western culture? If not, why the double standard?

abraxas posted on 2009-10-31 12:38:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#215. To: Samuel Gray (#210)
He's (Mad Dog) been "killing Commies" since the early 60s, eh? His time's about up, then, I'd guess.

Yet, in the your disagreements with Mad Dog, by your own standards, he is the "cobra" and you are the "chuchundra".

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-31 12:41:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#216. To: abraxas (#214)
Rather selective on what you deem a threat.

I have posted mostly on LP.

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-31 12:42:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#217. To: mininggold (#114)
I think buckeroo has a picture taken a few years back.

Yeah ... I have pictures on most everyone........
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
buckeroo posted on 2009-10-31 12:43:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#218. To: PaulCJ (#212)
?? That makes two of us, now, Paul, who don't know what the hell you're talking about.
I don't know about anyone's military service or on what they base their opinions.
I'm telling *you*, if you're so goddamned scared of the "Muslim threat", then do something besides exhorting someone else to go eradicate it, for fuck's sake.
The world is full of sharp edges. Stop being a pussy.

Samuel Gray posted on 2009-10-31 12:44:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#219. To: Samuel Gray (#218)
Samuel Gray: "Stop being a pussy."

Some posts are their own punchline.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 12:48:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#220. To: scrapper2 (#202)
How does Islam pose a threat to our culture?

You're kidding, right?

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 12:50:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#221. To: Liberator (#219)
Hey, look who's back. Whenever Goldi kegels, you're the sound that comes out.
Whatsammatter, small one, can't decide which forum is worthy of your 'greatness?'

Samuel Gray posted on 2009-10-31 12:50:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#222. To: tom007, PaulCJ (#188) (Edited)
Our foreign policies and short sighted, arrogant hubris, has, quite understandably, fed their [Islamic] nationalistic and religion paranoia, and thus radicalized some members of their community.

So lemme get this straight...
WITHOUT U.S. aggression in the Middle East, Islam is actually a "Religion of Peace"?
I guess all those Parisan "yoots" in France setting fire to cars and demanding Sharia Law, the raving Imam loons in Great Britain fomenting violence against the West, and the Koraniacs who are turning Scandinavia into Muslim nightmares are our fault as well?

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 12:56:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#223. To: PaulCJ (#213)
1. The U.S. is being attacked on several fronts.

I don't see any attacks, I only see loopholes allowing others to take advantage of us. Moderate inconveniences in the giant scheme of things, but keep up your consuming and don't take note of your rights flying out the door.
Create an economy that encourages young people to sign up for the military in order to survive and have a foreign policy that sends them overseas. Do you not see something significantly wrong with that?

mininggold posted on 2009-10-31 12:58:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#224. To: Samuel Gray, aka US_GRANT, aka, Brain_Griffin (#221)
I must say you are quite the flatterer, US_Gray...or is it Samuel_GRANT? Even better - LAME_Loser.
What is that now - FIVE mentions of me in this thread alone...and yet no one bit on your lame bait?
Tsk.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 13:00:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#225. To: PaulCJ (#213)
1. The U.S. is being attacked on several fronts.

That is so true.
The Zionist Jews in my tagline are hyperactive on so many levels.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 13:02:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#226. To: Liberator (#224)
Brian Griffin was a great poster and witty. I think you are jealous because he was banned and you were not. Maybe you could get your bud BTS to post a vanity thread about how YOU should be banned, that should do the trick. lol

mininggold posted on 2009-10-31 13:37:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#227. To: mininggold (#226)

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 13:43:24 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#228. To: Liberator (#227)
It's too bad the you have to distract when your overwhelming craving for booze hits. Check out AA or maybe even NA for help. BTS can probably help in that department too. lolol

mininggold posted on 2009-10-31 13:50:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#229. To: mininggold, lololololol (#228)
lolol

lolol x infinity

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 14:01:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#230. To: Liberator (#229)
lolol x infinity

It's alright, a little nappy nap will sober you up.
lolololol

mininggold posted on 2009-10-31 14:04:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#231. To: Liberator (#222)
"So lemme get this straight...WITHOUT U.S. aggression in the Middle East, Islam is actually a "Religion of Peace"? I guess all those Parisan "yoots" in France setting fire to cars and demanding Sharia Law, the raving Imam loons in Great Britain fomenting violence against the West, and the Koraniacs who are turning Scandinavia into Muslim nightmares are our fault as well?"

Where did he say that? Or are you making stuff up again?

Big Meanie posted on 2009-10-31 14:17:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#232. To: Liberator (#224)
yet no one bit

Actually, you bit at least twice. And will again, with another theory of who you think I might be today.
Of course, since you're no one, technically, your quoted statement is correct.
I always wondered that about you, you are *so* adamantly against the "new world order", whatever that is, but you're nothing in the old world order, so what makes you think that the new one might not offer you some opportunity for advancement? One has to think that anything besides being Y(f)uktard's informer would be an improvement for you.
I gotta say, though, your public, obvious overestimation of your influence on Goldi yesterday was just top-notch humor. The rooster didn't even crow three times before she denied you. Still sent her a check last time her servers broke, didn't you, genius?

Samuel Gray posted on 2009-10-31 14:27:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#233. To: Liberator (#224)
"What is that now - FIVE mentions of me in this thread alone...and yet no one bit on your lame bait?"

Perhaps it's because people tend to respond only to posts that they disagree with.

Big Meanie posted on 2009-10-31 14:27:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#234. To: buckeroo (#217)
I have pictures on most everyone

Someone was "kind" enough to send me Goldi's pic. Stevie Wonder wouldn't hit that.

Samuel Gray posted on 2009-10-31 14:29:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#235. To: Samuel Gray (#234)
Someone was "kind" enough to send me Goldi's pic.

Years ago, I was tenacious about this sort of presentation especially when pushed into a corner. I have backed-offed completely because it really does nothing other than create turmoil and potential despair. I have realized that the act creates an intrusion into and upon personal rights and liberties and freedoms.
I have learned from past mistakes and even in a humourous mode attempting to create caricatures, I refuse to perform such a post anymore.
Each and everyone of us have a serious and REAL right to his/her own dignity. The goals are to learn from each other and potentially increase our own capability for mutual respect and personal success.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
buckeroo posted on 2009-10-31 14:39:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#236. To: Fred Mertz (#199)
Hi Fred.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-10-31 14:41:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#237. To: Big Meanie, tom007 (#231)
Where did he say that? Or are you making stuff up again?

Well, Big Dopie - if you noticed, my post was a series of questions and required further clarification.
Below is more of Tom's post:
"The British and, unfortunately, the US, actions toward the Islam world has been by far the most fueled propellant for the radicalization of Islamic attitudes V. the west in the last few centuries."
I certainly challenge this assertion.
Islam needs no encouragement or "fuel" to be what it is: A hostile "Religion of Peace" and Death Cult which threatens the liberty and culture of ANY patch of land they lay their dirty, smelly foot on.
Do you agree or disagree?

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 14:44:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#238. To: Samuel Gray (#232)
Actually, you bit at least twice.

We both know that's a desperate spin on your part.
I always wondered that about you, you are *so* adamantly against the "new world order"...
As a fascist Leftist who worships The Boot, you would.
One has to think that anything besides being Y(f)uktard's informer would be an improvement for you.

(yawn) Try harder, Cartoon character.
The rooster didn't even crow three times before she [Goldi] denied you.
Again, I'm flattered at your studious attention and lapdog status. The biblical reference was commendable. Consider your head patted and ears scratched.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 14:53:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#239. To: mininggold (#223)
I don't see any attacks,

That is because the attacks are from economic and political areas. All the tyrannical and economically damaging bills passing through congress are by politicians bought off by foreign nations with the intent to destroy the U.S. from within.

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-31 15:00:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#240. To: Liberator (#222)
I guess all those Parisan "yoots" in France setting fire to cars and demanding Sharia Law, the raving Imam loons in Great Britain fomenting violence against the West, and the Koraniacs who are turning Scandinavia into Muslim nightmares are our fault as well?

I already mentioned those events on this thread. Some of the people here are not listening.

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-31 15:02:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#241. To: Pinguinite (#236)
Hey, if you really are Neill, isn't there something to pull the plug on LP once and for all, or did you sign away all rights?

Samuel Gray posted on 2009-10-31 15:33:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#242. To: Liberator (#220)
scrapper: How does Islam pose a threat to our culture?
Liberator: You're kidding, right?

No, I'm not kidding.
I asked a question. I have yet to receive an answer from PaulCJ.
And if all you can do is respond to me with a silly put down, then I guess you have no answer either.

scrapper2 posted on 2009-10-31 15:33:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#243. To: Liberator (#238)
I'm sure in your small world, your post made some sense. I suppose being constantly bested by war is starting to take its toll on you.
You really don't seem to belong anywhere. Guessing there's not a Mrs. Littlebaiter, is there?

Samuel Gray posted on 2009-10-31 15:38:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#244. To: PaulCJ (#239)
That is because the attacks are from economic and political areas. All the tyrannical and economically damaging bills passing through congress are by politicians bought off by foreign nations with the intent to destroy the U.S. from within.

That is because the attacks are from economic and political areas. All the tyrannical and economically damaging bills passing through congress are by politicians bought off by ~~foreign nations~~ ISRAEL with the intent to destroy the U.S. from within.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 15:43:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#245. To: PaulCJ (#209)
a. A U.N. resolution that makes it a crime for people in western nations to criticize islam.
b. More closer to home, CAIR (a muslim organization) sues anyone that criticizes them.

a. Really?
I guess it would be similar - that is, if this resolution ever saw the light of day in Western nations' criminal codes - to the criminalization of Holocaust discussion in several Western nations.
But whereas the Holocaust criminalization has actually been codified and implemented in Western nations', I have yet to hear of any Western nations passing legislation to criminalize criticism of Islam.
b. Really?
And how frequent or successful have the CAIR lawsuits been? I mean if you listen to, view MSM, Islam is criticized directly and indirectly all the time. CAIR's lawsuits don't seem to be scaring talking heads or TV script writers or Hollywood film makers much. Otoh, to criticize Israel or Zionism or neoconservative war mongers is very risky to one's career and reputation - one is painted with the broad brush stroke of anti-semeticsm.
Here's what happened when Drs. Mearsheimer and Walt merely published a paper, supported by an extensive bibliography, about the Israel Lobby. The uproar and consequences and name-calling were quite astounding.
www.haaretz.com/hasen/pag...Src=Y&art=2#article697960
"Kennedy School removes its logo from lobby study"
We have to keep dealing with the pro-Israel lobby "study" - as the uproar and debate over it keeps growing. Yesterday, a friend knocked on my door. He is a senior doctor in one of Washington's best institutions - not a political animal - and he didn't hear anything about this story until he got a copy of this study from an Arab colleague. Amazed after reading it he rushed to my house to ask if I heard about it. (Yes, I do have friends who don't read my blog every day). He was furious. How can they publish such junk in a respectable institution?
Well, this exact question bothered many people in academia. Kennedy School scholar Marvin Kalb attacked the authors, claiming they fail to meet quality standards. Harvard professor, Ruth Wisse, writing an op-ed for the Wall Street Journal on the matter, called for the school to withdraw the paper. "Poor scholarship," she said about the study. Julie Silverstein, the president of the Jewish Student Caucus at the Kennedy School, described the paper in an e-mail as "political rhetoric with an academic imprimatur." She added: "I am very concerned that Walt's piece will inflame the anti-Israel and anti-Semitic bias that often hovers below the surface in academia."
This morning, I received good news from an Israeli official who followed the story, and was able to confirm: Harvard's Kennedy School decided to remove its logo from this paper, and the new version contains a more specific disclaimer warning readers that the views conveyed in the paper are of the authors alone.
The original version had only a weak bottom-of-the-page disclaimer stating that "The views expressed in the KSG do not necessarily reflect those of the John F. Kennedy School of Government or Harvard University." The new disclaimer notched things up: "The two authors of this Working Paper are solely responsible for the views expressed in it? As academic institutions, Harvard University and the University of Chicago do not take positions on the scholarship of individual faculty, and this article should not be interpreted or portrayed as reflecting the official position of either institution". The font used in the disclaimer was also bolder.
The New York Sun - covering this story better than anyone else - quoted Congressman Eliot Engel (Rosner's guest this week) calling the authors "dishonest so-called intellectuals" and saying they are "entitled to their stupidity... the right of the rest of us to expose them for being the anti-Semites they are." It also reported this interesting nugget - which will be quoted by the people supporting the research as yet another proof that the pro-Israel lobby controls America: "Harvard, the observer said, had received 'several calls' from 'pro-Israel donors' expressing concern about the Walt-Mearsheimer paper. One of the angered contributors is said to be the donor who underwrote the chair occupied by Dean Walt, Robert Belfer. Mr. Belfer, a 1958 graduate of Harvard Law School, endowed a faculty chair as part of a $7.5 million gift to the Kennedy School in 1997. In addition to bearing the title of academic dean of the Kennedy School, Mr. Walt is also the Robert and Renee Belfer Professor of International Politics."

scrapper2 posted on 2009-10-31 15:59:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#246. To: wbales (#244)
That is because the attacks are from economic and political areas. All the tyrannical and economically damaging bills passing through congress are by politicians bought off by foreign nations ISRAEL with the intent to destroy the U.S. from within.

Are you ignoring the advances China and other nations are making in destroying the U.S. from within?

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-31 16:08:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#247. To: Paul CJ, wales (#246)
Are you ignoring the advances China and other nations are making in destroying the U.S. from within?

Those that destroyed America are the oligarchs the Republican party (and some if not most Democrats) have run interference for over these last decades since NAFTA but especially thanks to the scumbag Republican bot base of teabagging and birther kook morons who allow the Republicans to exist.
"We have oil. We have Putin - all that Russians think they need." - Vladimir Dubin, senior researcher at the Moscow-based Levada Centre.
Destro posted on 2009-10-31 16:54:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#248. To: PaulCJ (#246)
Are you ignoring the advances China and other nations are making in destroying the U.S. from within?

Nothing--no nation--comes even remotely close to the damage Zionist Jews and Israel are now and have been inflicting upon America and Americans.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 16:54:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#249. To: PaulCJ (#246) (Edited)
Are you ignoring the advances China and other nations are making in destroying the U.S. from within?

Oh..gosh darn...wait a minute...
The American-Chinese Political Action committee (ACPAC)!
How could I have forgotten all the money, influence, meetings, power, members and so forth they have in Washington, DC?
And those annual ACPAC conferences where American national leaders pledge allegiance to China...oh, yeah.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 17:04:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#250. To: scrapper2, PaulCJ (#202) (Edited)
How does Islam pose a threat to our culture?

scrapper, you do realize, do you not, that had Amerisrael NOT invaded Iraq and gotten rid of Saddam, his fleet of ocean going battle camels was going to land at Jacksonville and probably would have been all the way past St. Louis within a week.
Whew!! That was really close.
Isn't that right, Paul??
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 17:15:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#251. To: Samuel Gray (#241)
If I pulled the plug on LP, what would we have to talk about around here?
On a serious note, I don't think I'd have any legal say about shutting LP. Too much time has gone by and I've put the software in the public domain.
But what purpose would closing it down serve anyway? Would it make anyone smarter or more free? Would in restore any rights? I don't think so. I don't think it would change anything.

Pinguinite posted on 2009-10-31 17:30:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#252. To: PaulCJ, Religion of Peace (#240)
I already mentioned those events [Parisan "yoots" in France setting fire to cars and demanding Sharia Law, the raving Imam loons] on this thread. Some of the people here are not listening.

I did note the defensive reaction of the blind, deaf, and dumb to Muzzi-mania. After all, it's all apparently an innocuous "Religion of Peace"; Dubya Bush was right (sorta.) WHO KNEW??
It's them, not you of course.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 19:47:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#253. To: scrapper2, PaulCJ (#242)
No, I'm not kidding.
I asked a question. I have yet to receive an answer from PaulCJ.
(How does Islam pose a threat to our culture?)

Are you this oblivious?
Ok pardner - here's a brief primer:
Islam is a threat to ANY culture because it itself is a primitive Death Cult/religion, an ideological cancer, and corrosive fanaticism that utterly destroys and violates liberty, creativity, and common sense WHEREEVER it becomes an influence.
Disagree? History proves otherwise.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 19:54:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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