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Title: Interesting post
Source: LP
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=276955&Disp=10#C10
Published: Oct 30, 2009
Author: Murron
Post Date: 2009-10-30 06:39:29 by randge
Keywords: None
Views: 43201
Comments: 433

81. To: AGAviator, goldi-lox (#76)
The host site at http://www.inetebiz.com/ will soon act on the fact LP is a hate site, uses perveerted language and images and members advocating the violent overthrow of the government, promoting racism, etc.
No ISP that would want to be associated with that.

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Destro posted on 2009-10-30 03:31:02 ET Reply Trace 3. To: Goldi-Lox, out damned spot, Marguerite, mel_living, beyond the sea, yukon, domer, sneakypete, Willie Green, fitz, blackhorse, packrat1145, fitz, Blutarsky, Don, Joe Snuffy, GarySpFc, JLO, Mad Dog, Itzlzha, ALL (#1)
Destro: "The host site at http://www.inetebiz.com/ will soon act on the fact LP is a hate site, uses perveerted language and images and members advocating the violent overthrow of the government, promoting racism, etc. No ISP that would want to be associated with that."

63. To: Destro (#40)
Destro: "I am getting this website banned from public access computers like in libraries because of it."
A Pole: "Do you mean that I will lose my library access to LP? "
A Pole posted on 2009-10-29 10:00:53 ET Reply Trace

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A very social democrat, no?
Or was it a christian democrat?
I forget which.
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#311. To: FormerLurker (#308)
Do you think you have the religious duty to kill Muslims?

Only when it is those who seek to steal from, rape, or murder my family, friends, or myself.

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-31 22:42:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#312. To: PaulCJ (#307)
What's the matter, don't want to reply to my on that thread you pinged me too.

No. I'm too afraid.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 22:49:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#313. To: FormerLurker (#286)
Have you ever heard of Sumeria? How about ancient Egypt, Greece, and Rome?

Relatively speaking, progressive, thriving societies...
But no comparison to Industrial Age standards of living, creativity, and liberty for the common man.
Liberty? Well that is a subjective thing.
No it isn't.
Tell me, do you think the people of Iraq feel more free today than they did? Now that the religious police can arrest people for violating some arcane religious edict, which only started AFTER we "liberated" those people...
I don't know to WHAT degree the people Iraq feel "liberated" since the fall of Saddam...BUT that's germane to this issue because...
How about all those "liberated" people in Abu Ghraib, Bahrain, or other such wonderful places? Are they more free than before?
Don't know, don't care.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 22:50:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#314. To: PaulCJ (#309)
Are you an Israel Firster or a braindead idiot (as if it matters)?
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 22:56:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#315. To: Liberator (#314)
ping to #314
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 22:58:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#316. To: randge (#302)
Frankly, compared to the pacific spread of early Christian evangelism, where moral suasion was the main vehicle for propagating the faith

Oh, you mean how all non-believers such as Jews and Gypsies were put to death, a slow agonizing death by means such as this?
10 Most Frightening Torture Techniques from the Middle Ages
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-10-31 23:01:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#317. To: Liberator (#313)
Don't know, don't care.

Why not?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-10-31 23:01:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#318. To: wbales (#314)
Are you an Israel Firster or a braindead idiot (as if it matters)?

That is a question you should ask yourself. I think "thou protest too much".

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-31 23:02:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#319. To: FormerLurker, Liberator (#317)
Why not?

I want to intentionally answer for Mr. liberator. He has no principles.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
buckeroo posted on 2009-10-31 23:04:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#320. To: PaulCJ (#311)
Only when it is those who seek to steal from, rape, or murder my family, friends, or myself.

Well that is not the same as what you said earlier. You wanted to preemptively attack a house of worship, which could have largely been filled with innocent people who had no intent of doing any of the above.
If there is but ONE criminal in a Baptist Church, should the entire church be firebombed along with everyone in it?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-10-31 23:04:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#321. To: buckeroo, Liberator (#319)
I want to intentionally answer for Mr. liberator. He has no principles.

Let's see if he has a different answer. I'm willing to hear what he might say.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-10-31 23:06:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#322. To: FormerLurker (#317)
That just means he's so far in over his head that he's abandoned the argument, which he never had much of in the first place.

Samuel Gray posted on 2009-10-31 23:06:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#323. To: buckeroo (#319)
I want to intentionally answer for Mr. liberator. He has no principles.

Bucky, I agree with you again.
I don't know if I can live with myself after admitting that.
LOL!

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-10-31 23:06:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#324. To: PaulCJ (#318)
I think "thou protest too much".

Conversely, I think not enough.

America and Americans are wholesale waking up to the Zionist threat.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 23:07:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#325. To: FormerLurker (#320)
How many times will I have to say this. You cannot reason with muslim fanatics and muslim fanatics are not afraid to die.
So a peaceful solution is out of the question because muslim fanatics cannot be reasoned with. Threat of killing them does not work because muslim fanatics do not fear death. That only leaves as the only targets against muslim fanatics, as being things that muslim fanatics care about.

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-31 23:08:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#326. To: abraxas (#287)
As far as contrition in government for predominately Muslim states, the past 100 years have shown great strides.

Huh??
The only "strides" made by Muslim states has been the result of wealth attained as a result Western civilization's tpetro-dollars...
...Otherwise theMuslimaniacal camel-humpers would still be nothing more than nomadic Neanderthals.
The only war that Iran raged was instigated by the US and started by Iraq...
Bullsh*t.
These were two Muzzie factions doing what they do better than anyone on earth - HATING AND KILLING EACH OTHER FOR CENTRIES. They didn't need the U.S.'s help.
Iran isn't a perfect model, but it is a model of contrition over the past 600 years and Iranians have multiple cultural contributions in medicine and science during that time span.
If anything, Persia's contribution came before the year 1400 A.D.

Turkey is a parlimentary representative democracy, which is yet another historical example of Muslim contrition in the past 100 years.
Turkey is a political Muslim fluke. As to it's so called "contribution," the Ottoman Empire was one of the bloodiest indeed. Turkey's contribution in the last 100 years can best be described as, "a geo-political buffer between the USSR and US."

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 23:09:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#327. To: FormerLurker, Liberator (#321)
He will have an eventual answer .... but it won't consist of any reliable concepts about self-principles other than what he is spoon fed by the media.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
buckeroo posted on 2009-10-31 23:10:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#328. To: buckeroo (#288)
While Europe was in ruins based upon Judaic-Christian history, the Muslim world harbored the Bible in Constantinople.

"Muslim World"? You mean during the days of the Byzantine Empire?
Apparently, you don't realize how close the three religions are aligned, not just from a fundamental religious philosophy but also a historical basis.
Is this supposed to be some kind of revelation?

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 23:12:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#329. To: FormerLurker (#317)
Why not?

And I should care because....

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 23:13:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#330. To: Liberator (#329)
Why are you kissing Moldy-Lox's ass lately, pussy?
You are an embarrasment to the the human race.

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-10-31 23:15:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#331. To: Fred Mertz (#323)
Bucky, I agree with you again.

It is my pleasure to suggest candid remarcks in a publick forum, as always. I swear, I learn all the time from others even if I don't comment. You are a good guy .... one of these days we shall all meet as in a 4um HUG in person. Let us all pray we can cordially meet within good conditions without the increasing bad conditions of this distrustful government.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
buckeroo posted on 2009-10-31 23:15:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#332. To: abraxas (#291)
How Christian is all of our warring to "promote democracy" and "liberate" other nations?

I never claimed it was.
Our liberties are currently under assault and you are cheerleading our track record.
Why don't you tell me what I'm "cheerleading"; You seem to know me better than myself.
If our nation is an example of Christianity, every Christian should be ashamed. Honestly, I don't see too much Christianity in action these days.
I never claimed it was; Just that the Founder principles and tenets were based on the Bible. You seem to have a reading comprehension problem - although you seem to have plenty of company.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 23:16:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#333. To: PaulCJ (#293)
You cannot reason with muslim fanatics and muslim fanatics are not afraid to die.

Don't tell that to this group. According to them, America would and could have been established by MOOSLEMS.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 23:18:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#334. To: Liberator (#326)
Seriously--how many cubicles are you from PaulCJ in the Israeli embassy?
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 23:18:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#335. To: Liberator (#329)
And I should care because....

A) Torturing people makes us no better than Nazis or what Saddam is accused of being.

B) You should consider the "blowback" such things instigate.

C) If you were Christian, such things would be against your morals.
Really, if you were so afraid of Muslim fanatics, why do you CREATE them in the first place?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-10-31 23:19:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#336. To: buckeroo (#331)
I went to a funeral today. A beautiful 39 year-old womam blew her brains out last weekend. No one knows why.

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-10-31 23:19:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#337. To: Fred Mertz (#330)
Why are you kissing Moldy-Lox's ass lately, pussy?

That is fairly graphic.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 23:20:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#338. To: Liberator (#328)
"Muslim World"?

Yeah .. the piles of scientists, artists and philosophers besides intellects that saved the Christian documents from the Holy Wars.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
buckeroo posted on 2009-10-31 23:20:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#339. To: Fred Mertz (#336)
That is NOT the way I plan to meet. Sorry about your loss.
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
buckeroo posted on 2009-10-31 23:23:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#340. To: FormerLurker (#295)
If anything, the early church destroyed as much knowledge as possible, burning the Library of Alexandria, killing people who held different beliefs, and setting back science a thousand years or so. That's why it was called the Dark Ages.

Christianity is 2000 years old. In the course of those 2000 years the good by far outweighed the bad.
Now why don't you tell us all about the rape, plunder, death and destruction sponsored by the Death Cult, aka Islam?
...burning the Library of Alexandria...Science [was] set back "a thousand years or so..."
Pure horsesh*t and conjecture.
Look at the persecution Galileo and others like him suffered. Luckily, science advanced in SPITE of religion, not BECAUSE of it.
The Vatican was very oppressive at times.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 23:24:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#341. To: Fred Mertz (#336)
Fred, I'm so sorry to hear this. : (

abraxas posted on 2009-10-31 23:24:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#342. To: buckeroo (#339)
It was a tough day. I had to let someone know and it was you.
Sorry about that.

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-10-31 23:25:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#343. To: PaulCJ, Liberator (#325)
You cannot reason with muslim fanatics and muslim fanatics are not afraid to die.
Why then do you insist on MAKING them fanatics by killing their families, taking their land, and generally pissing on their heads?
So a peaceful solution is out of the question because muslim fanatics cannot be reasoned with.
Have you ever TRIED to reason with someone over there in the Middle East? When's the last time you were there?
You're full of hot air Paul, along with a lot of self righteousness that has no foundation in fact.
That only leaves as the only targets against muslim fanatics, as being things that muslim fanatics care about.
Seems to me that YOU are the fanatic here. Have you seen any church bombings lately? Even these so-called Muslim fanatics haven't sunken to that level, yet you are perfectly ok with doing it to them.
Hypocrite.
You AND Liberator, both of you.
How about you Liberator, are you ready to go blow up some kids in a mosque?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-10-31 23:25:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#344. To: Fred Mertz (#336)
A beautiful 39 year-old womam blew her brains out last weekend. No one knows why.

So very sad. Our entire society and culture is gone. We are bankrupt financailly and, more critically, morally.
TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.
wbales posted on 2009-10-31 23:25:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#345. To: abraxas (#341)
She was so friendly and everyone liked her. It shocked us all.

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-10-31 23:27:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#346. To: FormerLurker (#343)
Hypocrite.
You AND Liberator, both of you.
How about you Liberator, are you ready to go blow up some kids in a mosque?

Therein lies their ultimate hypocrisy. They wholeheartedly cheer on death and destruction when it's brought by someone besides them.
They both lack the sack to 'get in the game.'

Samuel Gray posted on 2009-10-31 23:28:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#347. To: Fred Mertz (#345)

Did she have any children? Hope you don't mind my asking. I'm a sap who always thinks of the children.

abraxas posted on 2009-10-31 23:29:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#348. To: Liberator (#340)
In the course of those 2000 years the good by far outweighed the bad.
Now why don't you tell us all about the rape, plunder, death and destruction sponsored by the Death Cult, aka Islam?

Why don't you tell us about that little 15 year old girl raped by a bunch of your bros over there in Californification land, you know, the girl who was gang raped over 2 and half hours by nice church going Christian folk.
Sure, Muslims have issues with rape in Europe, thing is, the European governments bend over backwards to kiss their asses. Treat them as the animals they are, lock them up in prison, and show them no mercy.
Those who find that behavior appropriate will find out quick that it is NOT appropriate, but it seems they are being ENCOURAGED to act that way by the kid glove treatment they are receiving by those European governments.
I don't think you can lump ALL of Islam into that group however, just as you can't lump ALL Christians into the category of low-life gang rapists just because SOME of them ARE.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2009-10-31 23:31:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#349. To: Liberator (#340)
Christianity is 2000 years old. In the course of those 2000 years the good by far outweighed the bad.

Are you saying that while the Spanish Inquisition bloodbath occurred you have the audacity to lick a drop of blood around the world? How about the strappings in the New_World, unmercifully destroying entire cultures and even into the modern era of raping and pillaging in the Philipines, spreading the word of God?
“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”
buckeroo posted on 2009-10-31 23:31:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#350. To: wbales (#297)
See my tagline.

I guess it's all about "the joos." (yawn)
When you type "Muslims are out to take over the United States and the world" or some such similar tripe, I, and most here at 4um, see "I am an f-ing braindead idiot."
When you type "We need to worry about China, not Israel." or some such similar tripe, I, and most here at 4um, see "I am an Israel First traitor to America."
Curious: Do you hunt and peck when you type your incoherent drivel?
This forum is neither FR nor LP.
Thanks for the update, Sparky.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 23:31:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#351. To: abraxas (#347)
She has a son who just came back from Iraq or Afghanistan...Army
She has two daughters...about 10 and 12...I'll send you a PM with a link to the funeral home. The parking lot wasn't big enough.

Fred Mertz posted on 2009-10-31 23:33:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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