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Title: Interesting post
Source: LP
URL Source: http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/ ... .cgi?ArtNum=276955&Disp=10#C10
Published: Oct 30, 2009
Author: Murron
Post Date: 2009-10-30 06:39:29 by randge
Keywords: None
Views: 43423
Comments: 433

81. To: AGAviator, goldi-lox (#76)
The host site at http://www.inetebiz.com/ will soon act on the fact LP is a hate site, uses perveerted language and images and members advocating the violent overthrow of the government, promoting racism, etc.
No ISP that would want to be associated with that.

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Destro posted on 2009-10-30 03:31:02 ET Reply Trace 3. To: Goldi-Lox, out damned spot, Marguerite, mel_living, beyond the sea, yukon, domer, sneakypete, Willie Green, fitz, blackhorse, packrat1145, fitz, Blutarsky, Don, Joe Snuffy, GarySpFc, JLO, Mad Dog, Itzlzha, ALL (#1)
Destro: "The host site at http://www.inetebiz.com/ will soon act on the fact LP is a hate site, uses perveerted language and images and members advocating the violent overthrow of the government, promoting racism, etc. No ISP that would want to be associated with that."

63. To: Destro (#40)
Destro: "I am getting this website banned from public access computers like in libraries because of it."
A Pole: "Do you mean that I will lose my library access to LP? "
A Pole posted on 2009-10-29 10:00:53 ET Reply Trace

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A very social democrat, no?
Or was it a christian democrat?
I forget which.
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#6. To: randge (#0)
LOL!
Too late, LP has been on a black list for at least 4 years now.
I told Goldi this news and she immediately plugged up her ears, accused me of bashing her people, and banned me.

RickyJ posted on 2009-10-30 7:38:05 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#10. To: RickyJ (#6)
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Eric Stratton posted on 2009-10-30 10:38:00 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#11. To: Eric Stratton (#10)
You may have problems with a forum or forum members, but do you rat them out to the libraries?

randge posted on 2009-10-30 10:40:59 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#44. To: randge, Eric Stratton (#11)
I did mot insult you and I apologize if it sounded that way.

A gaggle of Goldi's favored posters were posting obscene language about sex with animals, gay orgies, etc as replies to those that were on Goldi's enemies list and that is what would get them banned from libraries.

Destro posted on 2009-10-30 12:12:00 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#48. To: Destro (#44)
I did mot insult you and I apologize if it sounded that way.

You didn't insult me at all.
But permit me, it is the political cast of your complaint that I found disturbing.
There's a lot of anti-gov't talk here of a real strong nature sometimes. I'd like to feel that I or anyone else can shoot his bloody mouth of here within forum guidelines without a fellow poster taking it to some internet authority.
I believe that next time I'll handle this kind of stuff per pm.

randge posted on 2009-10-30 12:45:08 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#52. To: randge (#48)
I did mot insult you and I apologize if it sounded that way.
You didn't insult me at all.

Where did I write that to you at #11 or at #44 - I don't mind apologizing I just don't see where you asked for one and where I gave you an apology?

Destro posted on 2009-10-30 12:59:02 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#55. To: Destro (#52)
Misread the post in haste.
Things get too personal here sometimes. And ugly. And a lot uglier over there than here that's for sure by your testimony. That's why I stay away from that place.
Some jerk over there said that we should round up all the suspected terrorist's relatives and shoot them summarily too. They're all crazy as bedbugs.
Makes folks nervous when you threaten to pull the chain on filters, though. You might want to swear that kind of thing off for the duration.
Regards - r.

randge posted on 2009-10-30 13:26:49 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#58. To: randge, PaulCJ (#55)
Some jerk over there said that we should round up all the suspected terrorist's relatives and shoot them summarily too. They're all crazy as bedbugs.

I believe that was PaulCJ who wrote that. He posts here also. He's a chikenhawk.

F.A. Hayek Fan posted on 2009-10-30 13:33:20 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#62. To: Hayek Fan, randge, (#58)
Hayek Fan: Some jerk over there said that we should round up all the suspected terrorist's relatives and shoot them summarily too. They're all crazy as bedbugs.
randge, I believe that was PaulCJ who wrote that. He posts here also. He's a chikenhawk.

Yea, I did. I also suggested that a muslim mosque, or muslim holy site be destroyed for each muslim terrorist act committed.
If you have a better idea to stop muslim fanatical terrorists, I am listening.
And none of your blame america crap.
These muslim fanatics are not going to stop until either they are all dead, or they have murdered all of us.

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-30 13:47:23 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#140. To: PaulCJ (#62)
Yea, I did. I also suggested that a muslim mosque, or muslim holy site be destroyed for each muslim terrorist act committed.
If you have a better idea to stop muslim fanatical terrorists, I am listening.

Then EVERY muslin in the world would truly turn terrorist.

belmontconservative posted on 2009-10-30 17:05:42 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#141. To: belmontconservative (#140)
Then EVERY muslin in the world would truly turn terrorist.

Then what is your solution?

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-30 17:07:42 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#143. To: PaulCJ (#141)
Then what is your solution?

1. Stop being a wuss. Grow up and stop being afraid of the dark(skinned).
2. Live your life without wondering what's lurking around the corner waiting to kill you. You'll die of heart disease, prostate cancer, etc, before you're a terrorist fatality. No one gets out alive, Paul. Worry about the shit that will really kill you rather than a one in 0.0000000000000000000000000000001 percent chance that you'll be a victim of a terrorist attack.
Using your myopic, shortsighted, xenophobic approach, however, you'll have people actively seeking to kill you who heretofore never knew you existed.

Samuel Gray posted on 2009-10-30 17:12:39 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#148. To: Samuel Gray (#143)
1. Stop being a wuss. Grow up and stop being afraid of the dark(skinned).
2. Live your life without wondering what's lurking around the corner waiting to kill you. You'll die of heart disease, prostate cancer, etc, before you're a terrorist fatality. No one gets out alive, Paul. Worry about the shit that will really kill you rather than a one in 0.0000000000000000000000000000001 percent chance that you'll be a victim of a terrorist attack.
3. Using your myopic, shortsighted, xenophobic approach, however, you'll have people actively seeking to kill you who heretofore never knew you existed.

1. You are so naive that you cannot tell the difference between race and religion.
2. Yea, you want people to ignore the dangers happening in the world.
3. Your Orwellian double-speak is garbage.

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-30 17:49:40 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#155. To: PaulCJ (#148)
. Yea, you want people to ignore the dangers happening in the world.

Paul The Muslims have much more to worry about(losing their culture) than the people in the west. The entire world is becoming westernized at a rapid place-and that includes the muslim countries.
What is Iran's population mix?? Something like 40-50% of the population is less than 25 years old. Something to that effect.
They wear jeans and US hip clothes, go to US fast food style restaunts, post on Youtube and listen to their Ipods and did I mention they just LOVE western culture.

belmontconservative posted on 2009-10-30 18:21:40 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#158. To: belmontconservative (#155)
The Muslims have much more to worry about(losing their culture) than the people in the west.

More like westerners are more worried about losing their culture to politicial correctness or islam.

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-30 18:29:46 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#167. To: PaulCJ (#158) (Edited)
More like westerners are more worried about losing their culture to politicial correctness or islam.

Think more carefully about the multitude of ACLU's anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual family unit lawsuits - is it Muslims who generate them?
Think about the decadence promoted by Hollywood and TV media and the growth of the pornography industry - is it Muslims who control Hollywood and media and porno film industry manufacturing?
Think about the origins of political correctness and from what quarter that philosophy came.
Think about our nation's current slavish worship of multi-culturalism/diversity that replaced melting-pot philosophy - do you think Muslims are responsible for that?
Think about the leaders in movements like feminism, pro-abortion, homosexuality...the names are not Muslim.

scrapper2 posted on 2009-10-30 18:47:48 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#191. To: scrapper2 (#167)
Think more carefully about the multitude of ACLU's anti-Christian, anti-heterosexual family unit lawsuits - is it Muslims who generate them?
Think about the decadence promoted by Hollywood and TV media and the growth of the pornography industry - is it Muslims who control Hollywood and media and porno film industry manufacturing?
Think about the origins of political correctness and from what quarter that philosophy came.
Think about our nation's current slavish worship of multi-culturalism/diversity that replaced melting-pot philosophy - do you think Muslims are responsible for that?
Think about the leaders in movements like feminism, pro-abortion, homosexuality...the names are not Muslim.

That is why I said in my previous post, "political correctness" OR "islam". The things you listed are part of the "political correctness" part of my post.

PaulCJ posted on 2009-10-30 21:15:45 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#202. To: PaulCJ (#191)
That is why I said in my previous post, "political correctness" OR "islam". The things you listed are part of the "political correctness" part of my post.

Huh? How does Islam pose a threat to our culture?
Here's what you stated previously: "More like westerners are more worried about losing their culture to politicial correctness or islam."
Muslims aren't threatening our culture. They are not attacking our nation's Christian historical under pinnings. Muslims are not under mining the importance of the traditional family unit. Islam is not polluting our society with decadence through film, TV, porno, print publications. Muslims are not the leadership in movements homosexuality, radical feminism, abortion on demand.
All the foes of American traditional culture have one common denominator and it's not Islam.

scrapper2 posted on 2009-10-31 2:46:57 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#220. To: scrapper2 (#202)
How does Islam pose a threat to our culture?

You're kidding, right?

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 12:50:36 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#242. To: Liberator (#220)
scrapper: How does Islam pose a threat to our culture?
Liberator: You're kidding, right?

No, I'm not kidding.
I asked a question. I have yet to receive an answer from PaulCJ.
And if all you can do is respond to me with a silly put down, then I guess you have no answer either.

scrapper2 posted on 2009-10-31 15:33:32 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#253. To: scrapper2, PaulCJ (#242)
No, I'm not kidding.
I asked a question. I have yet to receive an answer from PaulCJ.
(How does Islam pose a threat to our culture?)

Are you this oblivious?
Ok pardner - here's a brief primer:
Islam is a threat to ANY culture because it itself is a primitive Death Cult/religion, an ideological cancer, and corrosive fanaticism that utterly destroys and violates liberty, creativity, and common sense WHEREEVER it becomes an influence.
Disagree? History proves otherwise.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 19:54:46 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#256. To: Liberator (#253)
Disagree? History proves otherwise.

History proves that Christianity and Judaism can be viewed in the same light, it is something that all the branches of Ol' Abe's tree have in common.
Are you going to disclude the Crusades and that horrid little tale about Dinah and the Sheshimites, just to name a couple of instances of the top of my head?
Actually, the Muslims were kinder than both Christians and Jews in that they allowed other religions to continue with their faith and did not force conversion or kill gaggles of them after they agreed to convert, trotting in all the males to get circumcized just so that they would be helpless to fend for themselves as the Jews killed them all........

abraxas posted on 2009-10-31 20:03:49 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#264. To: abraxas (#256)
History proves that Christianity and Judaism can be viewed in the same light, it is something that all the branches of Ol' Abe's tree have in common.

Sorry. Other than sharing the common history in the Old Testament, both your claim and your analogy are baloney. But do carry on...
Are you going to disclude the Crusades and that horrid little tale about Dinah and the Sheshimites, just to name a couple of instances of the top of my head?
"Disclude" in what context? You mean the citation of an era of persecution, corruption, and perversion of true Christianity invalidates its monumental contribution to civilization? You're historically retarded.
Stuff your ignorant "Christianity = Muslim" bullsh*t.
Actually, the Muslims were kinder than both Christians and Jews in that they allowed other religions to continue with their faith and did not force conversion or kill gaggles of them after they agreed to convert, trotting in all the males to get circumcized just so that they would be helpless to fend for themselves as the Jews killed them all........
LOL - yeah. Islam has been a regular "Religion of Peace," hey, Ace? Wow - I haven't heard this one lately; Islam is actually a progressive and tolerant civilization. WHO KNEW??
The very NEXT invention of Islamo-World will be it's first in the last 600 years.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 20:28:46 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#269. To: Liberator (#264)
You mean the citation of an era of persecution, corruption, and perversion of true Christianity invalidates its monumental contribution to civilization?

Oh, so it's a free pass for Christians, but the gallows for the Muslims. Why do you ignore Muslim contributions in science, astronomy, math, medicines, hospitals, political science, industry, commerce, agriculture, educations, libraries, music?
There are surely similarities between the three branches of Abe, even if you ignore them. Muslims are no more or less peaceful than Christians and Jews historically. Of course, you really aren't up on history are you Lib? You like to toss it out there with no basis or a selective accounting of events.

abraxas posted on 2009-10-31 20:48:51 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#277. To: abraxas (#269)
Oh, so it's a free pass for Christians, but the gallows for the Muslims.

Do you actually believe you'd retain even 5% of the same liberties in a Muslim society as in a "Christian" society?
Citing dark eras with which to invalidate a "Christian" culture spanning 2000 years is hardly balanced; The good faaaar outweighed the the bad with respect to Christendom.
There IS NO America without Christian forefathers and Christian concepts of liberty and freedom.
The gallows for Muslims? They can do whatever they please in their part of their world. The moment they lay claim anywhere else, they need to eliminated and disinfected. Yes, like the virus they are. Have you ANY idea how the Muslim hordes have been slaughtering un-Muslim villages in Africa? Naaah.
Why do you ignore Muslim contributions in science, astronomy, math, medicines, hospitals, political science, industry, commerce, agriculture, educations, libraries, music?
There has been ZERO "contrition" by Islam in 600 years. Before that this Death Cult was just a bit less regressive.
There are surely similarities between the three branches of Abe, even if you ignore them.
"Similaries," yes. But you claimed, "history proves that Christianity and Judaism can be viewed in the same light." WHOSE "history"??
Muslims are no more or less peaceful than Christians and Jews historically.
I'm NOT going to humor you. This is as dopey an assertion as I have ever seen.
Of course, you really aren't up on history are you Lib? You like to toss it out there with no basis or a selective accounting of events.
"Tossing" my arse. I'm not the one alienated from both history AND reality.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 21:06:01 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#279. To: Liberator (#277)
There has been ZERO "contrition" by Islam in 600 years.

MANY scientists, doctors, and engineers are Muslim. So ok, ISLAM has not EVER contributed to science, medicine, etc., but NEITHER has Christianity or Judaism, nor ANY other religion for that matter.

FormerLurker posted on 2009-10-31 21:13:07 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#284. To: FormerLurker (#279)
MANY scientists, doctors, and engineers are Muslim.

And taught and trained AT WESTERN UNIVERSITIES.
So ok, ISLAM has not EVER contributed to science, medicine, etc., but NEITHER has Christianity or Judaism, nor ANY other religion for that matter.
The question is under which societies and culture civilization has man made his greatest advances, thrived, and quenched his liberty; Without a doubt - the Judeo-Christian heritage.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 21:37:07 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#295. To: Liberator (#284)
The question is under which societies and culture civilization has man made his greatest advances, thrived, and quenched his liberty;

If anything, the early church destroyed as much knowledge as possible, burning the Library of Alexandria, killing people who held different beliefs, and setting back science a thousand years or so. That's why it was called the Dark Ages.
Look at the persecution Galileo and others like him suffered. Luckily, science advanced in SPITE of religion, not BECAUSE of it.

FormerLurker posted on 2009-10-31 21:52:30 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#340. To: FormerLurker (#295)
If anything, the early church destroyed as much knowledge as possible, burning the Library of Alexandria, killing people who held different beliefs, and setting back science a thousand years or so. That's why it was called the Dark Ages.

Christianity is 2000 years old. In the course of those 2000 years the good by far outweighed the bad.
Now why don't you tell us all about the rape, plunder, death and destruction sponsored by the Death Cult, aka Islam?
...burning the Library of Alexandria...Science [was] set back "a thousand years or so..."
Pure horsesh*t and conjecture.
Look at the persecution Galileo and others like him suffered. Luckily, science advanced in SPITE of religion, not BECAUSE of it.
The Vatican was very oppressive at times.

Liberator posted on 2009-10-31 23:24:12 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#367. To: Liberator (#340)
Pure horsesh*t and conjecture.

From Wiki;

Decree of Theodosius, destruction by Theophilus in 391

In 391, Christian Emperor Theodosius I ordered the destruction of all "pagan" (non-Christian) temples, and the Christian Patriarch Theophilus of Alexandria complied with this request.[20]
Socrates Scholasticus provides the following account of the destruction of the temples in Alexandria in the fifth book of his Historia Ecclesiastica, written around 440:
“ At the solicitation of Theophilus, Bishop of Alexandria, the Emperor issued an order at this time for the demolition of the heathen temples in that city; commanding also that it should be put in execution under the direction of Theophilus. Seizing this opportunity, Theophilus exerted himself to the utmost to expose the pagan mysteries to contempt. And to begin with, he caused the Mithreum to be cleaned out, and exhibited to public view the tokens of its bloody mysteries. Then he destroyed the Serapeum, and the bloody rites of the Mithreum he publicly caricatured; the Serapeum also he showed full of extravagant superstitions, and he had the phalli of Priapus carried through the midst of the forum. Thus this disturbance having been terminated, the governor of Alexandria, and the commander-in-chief of the troops in Egypt, assisted Theophilus in demolishing the heathen temples. ”
The Mithraeum was an underground temple for worship of the god Mithras. Hundreds of such temples have been discovered throughout Europe, northern Africa, the Near East, and Great Britain.
The Serapeum once housed part of the Great Library, but it is not known how many, if any, books were contained in it at the time of destruction. Notably, the passage by Socrates Scholasticus, unlike that of Ammianus Marcellinus, makes no clear reference to a library or library contents being destroyed, only to religious objects being destroyed. The pagan author Eunapius of Sardis witnessed the demolition, and though he detested Christians, and was a scholar, his account of the Serapeum's destruction makes no mention of any library. Paulus Orosius admitted in the sixth book of his History against the pagans:
“ Today there exist in temples book chests which we ourselves have seen, and, when these temples were plundered, these, we are told, were emptied by our own men in our time, which, indeed, is a true statement. ”
However, Orosius is not here discussing the Serapeum, nor is it clear who "our own men" are (the phrase may mean no more than "men of our time," since we know from contemporary sources that pagans also occasionally plundered temples).
As for the Museum, Mostafa El-Abbadi writes in Life and Fate of the Ancient Library of Alexandria (Paris 1992):
“ The Mouseion, being at the same time a 'shrine of the Muses', enjoyed a degree of sanctity as long as other pagan temples remained unmolested. Synesius of Cyrene, who studied under Hypatia at the end of the fourth century, saw the Mouseion and described the images of the philosophers in it. We have no later reference to its existence in the fifth century. As Theon, the distinguished mathematician and father of Hypatia, herself a renowned scholar, was the last recorded scholar-member (c. 380), it is likely that the Mouseion did not long survive the promulgation of Theodosius' decree in 391 to destroy all pagan temples in the city. ”
John Julius Norwich, in his work Byzantium: The Early Centuries, places the destruction of the library's collection during the anti-Arian riots in Alexandria that transpired after the imperial decree of 391 (p.314).

FormerLurker posted on 2009-10-31 23:51:45 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#369. To: FormerLurker (#367) (Edited)
Psst ... Liberator is freely librating on his/her plastic glue, tonight.

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