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Title: Club for Growth Spent $1 Million in NY-23. Is This a Bad Omen for the GOP in 2010?
Source: NewsWeek
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Published: Nov 4, 2009
Author: Holly Bailey
Post Date: 2009-11-04 19:36:12 by Brian S
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Views: 257
Comments: 8

Holly Bailey

The Atlantic’s Chris Good has an interesting breakdown on who spent what on New York’s hotly contested 23rd congressional district race. The big news: the Club for Growth spent more than $1 million in support of Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. That’s slightly less than the $1.1 million the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chipped in behalf of Democrat Bill Owens. Meanwhile, the National Republican Congressional Committee spent roughly $897,000—mostly on ads directly challenging Owens, as opposed to building up Dede Scozzafava, a moderate Republican who dropped out of the race over the weekend.

With polls set to close around 9 p.m. ET, the big question is whether the Club for Growth’s money and support—along with high-profile endorsements from 2012 hopefuls Sarah Palin and Tim Pawlenty—was enough to push Hoffmann over the edge. ***UPDATE: We now know it wasn't.** But in Washington, many Republicans are already looking at the bigger picture of what a Hoffman victory might mean for other closely contested GOP races next year. It’s not just about a philosophical war between moderates and conservatives over how the party should move forward. It’s about money and manpower at a time when the NRCC is trying to cut into the Democrats’ majority control of the House. Will independent groups like the Club for Growth try to repeat their methods in other tight GOP contests next year and what does that mean for the NRCC’s own operation, particularly in terms of money? Cash is already tight for House Republicans, who are being outspent and outraised by their Democratic counterparts. The last thing GOP aides say the party needs is an internecine war when Republicans should be focusing their resources in fighting Democrats.

There are two schools of spin coming from the GOP tonight. One, NY-23 was a rare instance where national interests converged into one local race, and it won’t be repeated. “The Club for Growth doesn’t have the money to compete everywhere,” a House GOP strategist, who spoke about the race on background, told NEWSWEEK. This source points out the group is already planning to dedicate significant resources to Pennsylvania’s Senate race, where former Club for Growth president Pat Toomey will face either Arlen Specter or Joe Sestak next year. And the club is also looking at the looming GOP primary fight between Charlie Crist and Marco Rubio in Florida. “They simply don’t have the resources to make every fight a NY-23,” this strategist said.

Yet other Republicans with close ties to the NRCC admit they aren’t so confident, citing the nearly $300,000 in contributions from small donors the Club for Growth was able to quickly bundle on Hoffman’s behalf. They acknowledge the club versus the GOP isn’t a new phenomenon, considering the group has been active in campaigning against Republican nominees before. The difference, says one GOP insider, is the feelings of hostility among grassroots conservatives toward Republicans in Washington. “There’s not just an anti-Obama feeling out there,” this Republican said. “There’s an anti-Washington, anti-establishment movement, which targets the national party, too…It could be a real problem for us." 

What does all of this mean? No matter the outcome tonight in New York, your Gaggler wouldn't be surprised to hear about peace talks between the NRCC or other national party officials and the Club for Growth and other conservative groups actively planning to influence the 2010 races.

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#1. To: Brian S (#0)

No, it's a good sign. He was fighting the millions the GOP gave the R and the Millions the DNC gave the D, and he had less than a month to wage his campaign. Spin away, but your precious ObamaBats are in 1994-like trouble. And Brian, when they get their asses kicked you will become the most irrelevant poster on this board :P

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-04   19:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Jethro Tull, Brian S (#1)

Hoffman is Jewish. Maybe people are tired of voting for Jews.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2009-11-04   19:52:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

It would be very difficult for anyone to take that crown from Richard.

Ncturnal  posted on  2009-11-04   23:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

It's amazing to me how utterly dishonest the human animal can be. No matter what occurs, if something doesn't fit a particular pre-conceived notion, humans will lie to themselves and others, at all expense, to make "reality" fit their views.

BrianS is one of the prime suspects of this kind of action on the board. It occurs everywhere and in all ideologies of course, I just wonder sometime about the strong streak of it I see so very often in the hard core statist/collectivist camp. It's frightening to think that there are people so utterly dishonest walking around like this.

MapQuest really needs to start their directions on #5. Pretty sure I know how to get out of my neighborhood.

SonOfLiberty  posted on  2009-11-05   7:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: SonOfLiberty (#4)

People on both sides of the spectrum are guilty of this. It's a sign they're still caught up in the duopolistic fraud.

As the song says, "There is no po-lit-i-cal solution."

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-11-05   8:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Sam Houston, BrianS (#5)

People on both sides of the spectrum are guilty of this. It's a sign they're still caught up in the duopolistic fraud.

SoL's comment was limited to Brian who is an Obama voter and who still supports him. Brian is still in campaign mode and rather than look soberly at the huge wave of government programs Obama is generating, he cheers them as they come crashing our way. My post and SoL's is limited to him. If you did what he is doing, you too would be a political partisan and fundamentally dishonest.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2009-11-05   8:34:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#1)

I predict that your just outrage at Obama will cause you to vote GOP in 12. Hopefully a worthy candidate will emerge.

Error of opinion may be tolerated where reason is left free to combat it - Thomas Jefferson

A K A Stone  posted on  2009-11-05   8:44:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#6)

I'm a "catastrophist." I expect catastrophe at all times. There is no "hope" or "change" in this life for more than a fleeting moment. Prepare to die.

I agree with Brian S to the extent that, of the two sides of the fraud, the GOPers have caused slightly more catastrophe and that is because that party has had control of the executive branch for 28 of the last 41 years. Over that span of time, the executive branch has expanded its power to such an extent that, in effect, Americans live in a presidential dictatorship.

You could see this last year with Paulson threatening martial law on behalf of Dubya. The Congress is a rubber stamp now. It is a peanut gallery.

Where I disagree is whether anything can be done about it. Nothing can. Empires collapse over time. It is an historical process and we are living within a collapsing empire. The pace of the collapse is quickening. We will be fortunate if tens of millions aren't eventually forced to live off the land.

The "solution" was never to become an empire in the first place.

“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston

Sam Houston  posted on  2009-11-05   8:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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