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Title: Does Islam Breed Violence? (An Iranian-Born American's View)
Source: FaithFreedomOrg
URL Source: http://faithfreedom.org/islam/does-islam-breed-violence
Published: Nov 14, 2009
Author: Amil Amani
Post Date: 2009-12-03 22:32:29 by Liberator
Keywords: Islam, Bloody, Muslim, Cult
Views: 48391
Comments: 650

There is a division of the house. On one side are the politically correct in government, the leftist mainstream media, and a raft of Islamist apologists. One and all are tripping over each other in reassuring us that the mass murderers such as Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan and suicide bombers who detonate their explosive vests in crowded marketplaces and even mosques are individual anomalies and Islam is not responsible for what they do.

On the other hand are those who have been fed up with the numberless daily horrific acts that are clearly committed under the banner of Islam throughout the world. In all fairness, there needs to be a distinction. Numerous criminal acts are also committed, on a daily basis, by non-Muslims. The critical difference is that non-Muslim criminals do not hoist a religious banner to justify their misdeeds, while the Muslims proudly claim that they commit their heinous acts in obedience to the dictates of their religious faith.

Would someone, please, explain what motivated Nidal Hasan who had been, at tax payer’s expense, educated from college all the way through medical school and post medical-school training, to turn his deadly weapons against a nation that gave him everything he had?

If Islam had nothing to do with what Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan did, why:

* had he repeatedly preached the ascendancy of Islam to the U.S. Constitution?

* had he publicly supported Islamic suicide bombing?

* had he proclaimed his highest loyalty to Islam?

* had he been in contact with violent anti-U.S. Islamists and a virulent Yemeni Imam?

* did he distribute copies of the Quran to people the morning of his bloody attack?

* did he keep screaming “Allah-o-Akbar” as he heartlessly sprayed over a hundred bullets, killing thirteen and injuring some thirty innocent men and women?

Here is the truth, as bitter as it may be. Islam is the culprit. Islam is anything but a religion of peace. Violence is at the very core of Islam. Violence is institutionalized in the Muslim’s holy book, the Quran, in many suras:

Qur'an:9:5 "Fight and kill the disbelievers wherever you find them, take them captive, harass them, lie in wait and ambush them using every stratagem of war."

Qur'an:9:112 "The Believers fight in Allah's cause; they slay and are slain, kill and are killed."

Qur'an:8:39 "So fight them until there is no more Fitnah (disbelief [non-Muslims]) and all submit to the religion of Allah alone (in the whole world)."

Qur'an:8:65 "O Prophet, urge the faithful to fight. If there are twenty among you with determination they will vanquish two hundred; if there are a hundred then they will slaughter a thousand unbelievers, for the infidels are a people devoid of understanding."

Qur'an:9:38 "Believers, what is the matter with you, that when you are asked to go forth and fight in Allah's Cause you cling to the earth? Do you prefer the life of this world to the Hereafter? Unless you go forth, He will afflict and punish you with a painful doom, and put others in your place."

Qur'an:47:4 "When you clash with the unbelieving Infidels in battle (fighting Jihad in Allah's Cause), smite their necks until you overpower them, killing and wounding many of them. At length, when you have thoroughly subdued them, bind them firmly, making (them) captives. Thereafter either generosity or ransom (them based upon what benefits Islam) until the war lays down its burdens. Thus are you commanded by Allah to continue carrying out Jihad against the unbelieving infidels until they submit to Islam."

And the Quran is considered by Muslims as the word-for-word literal edicts of the Muslims’ god, Allah.

Right from the start, violence served as the engine of Islam under the command and supervision of Muhammad himself. For one, the Prophet’s son-in-law cousin, Ali, was titled the Commander of the Faithful for his unsurpassed feats of butchery. Ali with the assistance of one or two of his thugs, beheaded some seven hundred captives, most of them Jews, in only one day. This man, highly esteemed by the prophet of Allah, had a sword that had its own name—Zolfaghar. Ali’s portrait, holding the menacing sword, adorns the homes and shops throughout Shi’a’-lands. And this man, Ali, is revered by the Shi’a at the same level as Muhammad.

On the Sunni side, Muhammad’s co-revered is Umar, another unabashed killer of untold numbers. And of course the choice weapon of these champions of the religion of peace was the sword. And to this day, a sword adorns the flag of the birthplace of the religion of peace, Saudi Arabia.

And Islam, by the nature of its very doctrine, appeals to man’s base nature. It promotes intolerance, hatred, discrimination, and much more:

Qur'an:61:2 "O Muslims, why say one thing and do another? Grievously odious and hateful is it in the sight of Allah that you say that which you do not. Truly Allah loves those who fight in His Cause in a battle array, as if they were a solid cemented structure."

In reality, Islam is like a deadly contagious disease. Once it invades the mind of its victim, this debilitating disease is capable of transforming him to a helpless pawn that has no choice but to execute what he is directed to do.

Of the reported 1.3 billion Muslims in the world, millions are already trapped in the terminal stages of this affliction while millions of others are rapidly joining them. The people enslaved with the extreme cases of Islamic mental disease are highly infectious. They actively work to transmit the disease to others, while they themselves engage in horrific acts of mayhem and violence to demonstrate their unconditional obedience to the dictates of the Islamic cult of violence.

The savagery and variety of the actions of these Islamic captives are seen daily around the globe. Many of these acts, committed under the banner of Islam, have become so commonplace that the world has come to view them as the normal part and parcel of a troubled humanity. And, from time-to-time, the world is shocked into a passing and momentary realization of the evil deeds these Islamist robots commit and quickly gets over it and does nothing to seriously address this affliction of humanity.

The recent dastardly mass murder at Fort Hood, committed by Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan will be forgotten by the public before very long. Life will continue on its deadly course, pushed along in a variety of ways by agents of death, Islamists. Only the families who lost their loved-ones and those who survived the bullets have to live the rest of their lives with incapacitating injuries, in the main, won’t be able to put the episode behind them.

The mass murderer Nidal Malik Hasan did not riddle people with bullets under the pressure of momentary insanity. The insanity, ironically, in a man who was trained to help people with sanity was introduced in him from the moment of birth and from the very early years when he prostrated himself five times daily toward Mecca in expression of total submission to the dogma of hate called Islam.

Islam is a mental retrovirus that has mutated into numerous varieties and degrees of severity, over the past 1400 years. Everyone born in a Muslim family, as well as those who convert to Islam, contract a particular mutation of the Islamic Virus. As is the case with all retroviruses, the Islamic Virus burrows deeply in the person and erupts, from time-to-time with potentially devastating consequences.

The Islamic Virus first divests the person of his most fundamental human attribute. It takes away his right to make decisions himself and absolves him, in return, of any responsibility for his actions rendered in blind obedience to it.

A true Muslim does not and cannot believe in freedom of choice. In the religion of Islam—Submission—everything is up to Allah, as clearly and repeatedly stipulated in the Quran .The Raison d'être for the Muslim is to be an unconditional submissive to the will and dictates of Allah. Everything that a “good” Muslim does is contingent upon the will and decree of Allah, he is indoctrinated to believe.

Humanity is facing a deeply troubling dilemma. On the one hand is the desire of enlightened people whose aim it is to forge a world of diverse people into one universal society ruled by peace and justice for everyone while, on the other hand, Islamists are hell-bent on imposing their stone-age system on everyone. Tellingly, the Muslims themselves are at one another’s throat regarding which of dozens of Islamic sects’ dogma should rule.

For now, Islam is busy with what it did from the time of its birth, fighting the non-Muslims and infighting.

Truth be told: Violence is the animating force of Islam. Islam is a religion born through violence, raised by violence, thrives on violence and dies without violence.

Author's Bio:

Amil Imani is an Iranian-born American citizen and pro-democracy activist residing in the United States of America. Imani is a columnist, literary translator, novelist and an essayist who has been writing and speaking out for the struggling people of his native land, Iran. He and his family escaped Iran after the radical Islamic revolution.

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#247. To: sneakypete (#240)

So Amerisrael should continue to:

rape thier women and butcher their children; steal thier land; use white phosphorous on them; bulldoze their homes and farms; poison their water; invade their countries and install corrupt puppet governments; bomb their lands with B-52s; cruise missle their weddings; machine gun their neighborhoods from Apache helicopter gunships; ambush their ambulances; occupy their countries with battle troops; spit on them; unload a paltoon's worth of M-16s into their living rooms; ect....and--very important--keep maintaining that Islam breeds violence.

Oh. And which one would you like to contest?

Remember, I have access to the internet.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-12-04   22:31:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#248. To: Liberator (#242)

You live in Joisey and no one's cut your stupid fucking throat yet? Things must not be as bad there as I've heard.

Pity.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-12-04   22:31:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#249. To: wudidiz, dakmar, diva betsy ross (#239)

Verrry good, children! You both get Gold Jewish Stars for paying attention...

Although the context isn't quite what Diva alluded to.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-04   22:31:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#250. To: Liberator (#154)

The Koran does not advocate honor killings, female genital mutilation, or suicide.

More lies. No, make that more f***ing lies.

Show me the passages, FibberBator.

Hey - good thing those 72 virgins await suicide bombers who you pretend don't exist, eh?

There's nothing about 72 virgins for suicide bombers either, lying SOS.

You're on a roll.

I repeat. Jews found it to their advantage to live under Islam for 1,300 years, and a Jew or a Jew supporter should be the last to lecture any white person about being a dhimmi

Yeah - the Jews must have LOVED dhimmihood - who wouldn't?

Jews didn't do anything about it for 1,300 years. That's not the behavior of a people who dislike a system. You may have stumbled across what Americans did when they decided they didn't want the King of England taxing them....

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-04   22:32:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#251. To: Liberator (#234)

I heard a woman speak this year about her conversion to Christianity in Nazi Holland. She escaped the Nazi like 5 times. It is a fascinating story.. she was amazing!!!

She was the voice of the Dutch Snow White. :) http://www.youtube.com/watch? v=FbTJmDFxMOA&feature=related

Her book: http://www.wordofmessiah.org/believers/frieda_roos.htm

Anyway- she turned me on to some interesting stuff about Hitler. :)

diva betsy ross  posted on  2009-12-04   22:33:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#252. To: wudidiz (#245)

You're cracking me up! Seriously - I can't get sucked into all this tonight. I got a paper to write. You kids have fun now. Be ready. LP is going dark sometime this weekend.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-04   22:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#253. To: Liberator (#249)

...the context isn't quite what Diva alluded to.

Does that mean you're not mentally challenged?


"The trouble with people is not that they don't know but that they know so much that ain't so." ~ Josh Billings

wudidiz  posted on  2009-12-04   22:34:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#254. To: wbales, sneakypete (#240)

Pete: "I think you are full of shit."

Muslim Apologist wbales: "How is your research on Sarah Palin's Israeli flag coming out?"

Hey bales - nice try at the weaseltry.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-04   22:35:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#255. To: mel_living (#252)

LP is going dark sometime this weekend.

Rather anti-climactic, if so. It's been somewhat dim for years now, it's a logical progression.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2009-12-04   22:35:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#256. To: Liberator (#249)

Verrry good, children! You both get Gold Jewish Stars

My, gramma what big eyes you have...

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-12-04   22:36:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#257. To: Liberator (#238)

I am quite aware of the bizarre crush she has on me.. I didn't realize she stalked you as well.

It is her hobby. I shouldn't be surprised.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2009-12-04   22:36:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#258. To: Liberator, AGAviator (#254)

Hey bales - nice try at the weaseltry.

Pete knows what I'm talking about.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-12-04   22:37:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#259. To: Samuel Gray (#255)

I see you're a stalker now. That's awesome! I got to head out and get my paper done. Have a great night and stop stalking the stalkers. It can only end badly. rotflmao.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-04   22:40:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#260. To: Liberator (#217)

I can't tell whether this forum is actually 'Freedom 4um' OR MajorNadal.org.

oh, please. that's really over the top. no one here has defended the act(s) of extremists, so don't call us supporters of a murderer.

christine  posted on  2009-12-04   22:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#261. To: AGAviator (#250)

More lies. No, make that more f***ing lies.

Show me the passages, FibberBator.

The "passages" that prove you're a Muzzie-Apologist who justifies and celebrates the historical murder of Infidels, and worships the Koran?

This entire thread is testimony to your Muslim sycophantic lunacy, Abdul.

Piss off in another direction.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-04   22:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#262. To: Liberator (#261)

Disgusted  posted on  2009-12-04   22:43:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#263. To: christine (#260)

Careful Christine, one more outburst like that and he'll try to pin the Lindbergh baby kidnapping on you.

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-12-04   22:45:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#264. To: Liberator (#217)

I can't tell whether this forum is actually 'Freedom 4um' OR MajorNadal.org

Why are you here?

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-12-04   22:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#265. To: christine (#260)

I can't tell whether this forum is actually 'Freedom 4um' OR MajorNadal.org.

oh, please. that's really over the top. no one here has defended the act(s) of extremists, so don't call us supporters of a murderer.

Are you kidding? I'M "over the top"??

By the number of posts in rabid defense of Islam, take a closer look and tell me what you see. Blame THEM for using the forum for their own agenda.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-04   22:49:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#266. To: wbales (#264)

Well since he doesn't believe in freedom that could mean only one thing...

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-12-04   22:50:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#267. To: wbales (#264)

Why are you here?

Good question.

I had NO idea there were as many pro-Muslim crackpots like you infecting this forum.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-04   22:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#268. To: Disgusted (#262)

Goodness sakes! I think there's a whole lot more of that kind of hoax being perpetuated across the world. His kind are addicted to the attention, just like the wacky reality television actors who will do or say anything to get noticed.

"Liberty is the solution of all social and economic questions." ~~Joseph A. Labadie

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2009-12-04   22:52:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#269. To: Liberator (#267)

So you're saying you hate Muslims?

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-12-04   22:52:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#270. To: Liberator (#265)

Disgusted  posted on  2009-12-04   22:53:16 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#271. To: mel_living, Samuel Gray (#259)

I see you're a stalker now. That's awesome!

You WOULD think stalking is "awsome." After all, we've all heard about YOU and your weird obsessions.

You and Samantha oughta stalk each other.

Liberator  posted on  2009-12-04   22:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#272. To: Disgusted (#262)

"Yes, it's not true--but in my imagination it was true--so it is true"

or something like that?!?

What the hell?!?

On a side note, it's not nice to fool Mother Oprah Nature.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-12-04   22:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#273. To: Dakmar (#266)

Goldie threatened to take his ninny bottle away if he didnt shut up. hehehehehehe

This person is addicted to internet forums and is a hazard to be avoided. It is sick.

Cynicom  posted on  2009-12-04   22:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#274. To: Liberator (#261)

Piss off in another direction.

No.

You piss off, screamy Heebie.

Preferably in the direction of elPee.

Show me what passages in the Koran approve of

(1) Suicide
(2) 72 virgins for suicide bombers
(3) Female genital mutilation
(4) Honor killings
You ain't on elPee, chump.

I'll keep asking until you admit your ignorance or slink off the site.

And no one's going to ban me for asking, either.

AGAviator  posted on  2009-12-04   22:56:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#275. To: Liberator (#265)

no one has defended the violent acts by Islamic extremists or any other religion.

christine  posted on  2009-12-04   22:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#276. To: Liberator (#267)

I had NO idea there were as many pro-Muslim crackpots like you infecting this forum.

The door is a mouse click away.

TRAITORS TO AMERICA AND BRAINWASHED IDIOTS SUPPORT AND DEFEND ISRAEL. TO HELL WITH ZIONISTS AND THIER AMERICAN FRONTS: AIPAC/PNAC/ADL/JPCA/NAACP/CFR/FEDERAL RESERVE/NWO/SPLC/JINSA/ACLU/FPI/CHRISTIAN ZIONISTS/AEI/FEDERAL MEDIA/HOLLYWOOD, et. al.

wbales  posted on  2009-12-04   22:56:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#277. To: Liberator (#271)

Kinda hard to stalk yourself. ;) They know each other, you can be sure of that.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2009-12-04   22:57:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#278. To: Liberator (#180)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-04   22:58:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#279. To: Liberator (#180)

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-04   22:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#280. To: Liberator (#271)

After all, we've all heard about YOU and your weird obsessions.

lol...You only heard the lies your girlfrend posts - and you believe it. That's funny right there!

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-04   22:58:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#281. To: diva betsy ross (#277)

They know each other, you can be sure of that.

lmao - ROTFLMAO! More assnine assumptions from you - Hilarious.

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-04   23:00:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#282. To: AGAviator (#274)

I do agree that not all Muslims are violent- BUT there are so many of them who commit violence in the name of their religion.

That is a historic fact. They have not just committed violence against Americans- their violence has been going on since the beginning of time, just about.

I am actually interested in WHY that is so. I have a very nice lady friend who is very loving, kind, generous and friendly and would not to hurt anyone- and she is Muslim.

I am not sure how to make sense of it- but it is ture that Muslims have commited many acts of violence.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2009-12-04   23:01:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#283. To: Liberator (#0)

Islam is a religion born through violence, raised by violence, thrives on violence and dies without violence.

Allah (God) is the focus in Islam, the sole authority, not Muhammad. But Muhammad’s life story is important to Muslims, for his character is considered a model of the teachings in the Qur’an. The stories of Muhammad’s life and his sayings are preserved in a vast, not fully authenticated literature called the Hadith, which reports on the Prophet’s Sunnah (sayings and actions). When he was a teenager, on a trip to Syria with his uncle, Muhammad was noticed by a Christian monk who identified marks on his body indicating his status as a prophet. As a young man, Muhammad managed caravans for a beautiful, intelligent, and wealthy woman named Khadijah. When she was forty and Muhammad was twenty-five, she offered to marry him. Khadijah became Muhammad’s strongest supporter during the difficult and discouraging years of his early mission. With Khadijah’s understanding of his spiritual propensities, Muhammad began to spend periods of time in solitary retreat. These retreats were not uncommon in his lineage. They were opportunities for contemplation, away from the world. When Muhammad was forty years old, he made a spiritual retreat during the month called Ramadan. An angel in human-like form, Gabriel, reportedly came to him and insisted that he recite. Three times Muhammad demurred that he could not, for he was unlettered, and three times the angel forcefully commanded him. In desperation, Muhammad at last cried out, “What shall I recite?” and the angel began dictating the first words of what became the Qur’an: Proclaim! (or Recite!) In the name Of thy Lord and Cherisher, Who created— Created man, out of A (mere) clot Of congealed blood: Proclaim! And thy Lord Is Most Bountiful,— He Who taught (The use of) the Pen,— Taught man that Which he knew not.1

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-04   23:03:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#284. To: All (#283)

Devout Muslims feel that Islam encompasses all religions. Islam honors all prophets as messengers from the one God: Say ye: We believe In God, and the revelation Given to us, and to Abraham, Isma’il, Isaac, Jacob, And the Tribes, and that given To Moses and Jesus, and that given To (all) Prophets from their Lord: We make no difference Between one and another of them: And we bow to God in surrender.15

mel_living  posted on  2009-12-04   23:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#285. To: diva betsy ross (#282)

I do agree that not all Muslims are violent- BUT there are so many of them who commit violence in the name of their religion.

Which was fine when al Queda was fighting the Russians, right? :)

In 2007, the FBI reported on concern about white supremacists recruiting soldiers, saying "hundreds" of neo-Nazis were in the active military. But in April, a Department of Homeland Security report on extremism that reiterated much the same point was widely criticized by veterans groups and some conservative politicians as being unpatriotic, leading the Justice Department to retract the DHS report.

Critics acknowledge that extremism in the Army is a touchy political subject.

Dakmar  posted on  2009-12-04   23:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#286. To: Dakmar (#186)

Didn't like the way the question was phrased. In fact, why should picking a side be the only choice, when I recall plenty of times in real life simply walking away. I'm walking away from government, and hope to write a song about my experience.

You already know this isn't a sex channel wherein you can get jollies off based upon your own methods of self-stroking.

So, you have a few valid points about self.

“Gold is the money of kings; silver is the money of gentlemen; barter is the money of peasants; but debt is the money of slaves.”

buckeroo  posted on  2009-12-04   23:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#287. To: mel_living (#280)

Right- this sam person just shows up out of the blue calling me names- each time for posting to you.

Uh huh..

It is a good thing that Liberator was not the only one who saw all of those links about who you are, before they were pulled.

Many people now know where to look when stuff starts looking all kinds of kooky at the the forums where you visit. If something odd is happening with sock puppets or threats- look at Mel_Living. She has a track record a mile long at all of the FR spin offs. Also at other sites. BUT every single one of the FR spin offs you will find her name associated with monkey business.

Sock puppets, threats of violence, threats of sites closing down.. all these things follow you around.

People can google you and see the nonsense you cause at the sites where you go. You are very good at it, but now even more people are on to your games. :)

You are tied together with a sock puppet or two or three at every site you post you on, and bragging about how many servers you have, and the ways you like to follow people and research them- and the ways you have of causing trouble..

It is all on google.

me? You can not find one sock puppet, not one threat of violence, not me bad mouthing one site host. Sorry mel- you are the royal game player.

Everyone knows it.

diva betsy ross  posted on  2009-12-04   23:13:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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