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Title: What Do Americans Want?
Source: townhall.com
URL Source: http://townhall.com/columnists/Sale ... 9/12/27/what_do_americans_want
Published: Dec 27, 2009
Author: Salena Zito
Post Date: 2009-12-27 12:57:52 by Eric Stratton
Keywords: None
Views: 956
Comments: 28

What Do Americans Want?
Salena Zito
Sunday, December 27, 2009

What is the overriding lesson learned about this year of promised “hope” and “change,” given the politics, public scandals and shifting social behavior that have permeated American pop culture?

I don't think Americans know yet what they want. But they are pretty clear on what they don't want.

They don't want Bush, they don't want a bailout of Wall Street banks or Detroit automakers, and they don't want Washington to try to spend its way to some minimal recovery.

They didn't want New Jersey Governor Jon Corzine and, now, they don't seem to want House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, Majority Leader Harry Reid or U.S. Sen. Chris Dodd, D- Conn. – or a health-care-reform bill with a public option.

At least not this week.

The recession has impacted this confusion over our desires more than any other factor.

Typically, a recession is a time when people take stock of their lives; an economic crisis tends to remind people that they can cut out the things they realize they didn't need or pretended were not a problem.

People stop papering-over their problems with money – because, simply, they don't have the money.

They try to recollect the real meaning of their lives, to figure out what is important. Usually, they come back to the basics: family, faith, community, compassion.

That is why people beyond Washington look at two over-dressed White House party-crashers, or at staged beer-summits, as examples of what they never want to stand for.

Perhaps the most culturally representative political moment of this year was when Michaele and Tareq Salahi crashed President Obama’s first White House State Dinner. The excessive, fame-seeking, social-media-using wannabes uncovered this administration’s willingness to give staffers cover for no good reason – even if it was at the risk of throwing the guys that are supposed to protect you under the bus.

Perhaps the most politically representative moment of this administration was when the president went off his teleprompter for the first time and let racism out of the bag with one word: “Stupidly.” It came on the heels of the arrest of a black Harvard professor, Henry Louis Gates, a presidential friend, by a white Cambridge, Mass., policeman.

While we probably remain some time away from relocating our cultural center, we are on the road way to doing so.

The “Tea Party” movement – born of frustration, maturing into an integral part of our politic fabric – is about reconnecting with the ideals of liberty and limited government.

While that movement caught both political parties by surprise, it really shouldn’t have. Throughout our history, Americans always cycle toward renewal when we feel disconnected from our leadership.

All of the renewed concern emanating from tea parties is not racism, as some pundits claim in order to dismiss the movement’s seriousness; it is a true concern about the government’s rising budget deficit and public debt and a reconnection with such ideas as a belief in hard work and a rejection of easy money.

Next, look for Democrats on the left to become just as disengaged as those on the right and in the middle; left-leaning true believers are less than thrilled with the health care reform efforts that have sputtered out of Congress.

Where are we headed?

Who knows – but we probably have been there before, and we’ll probably be back there again.

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Americans want as much as they can fucking get from Government or help in doing so, but then when it comes time to pay the piper, they too reneg!

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-27   13:02:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

Where are we headed?

Any questions?

COMRADE! Why are you not showing your Party affiliation and showing proper respect for Dear Leader? Put your Barackstika armband on RIGHT NOW!

mirage  posted on  2009-12-27   13:06:33 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-27   13:16:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eric Stratton (#0)

What Do Americans Want?

More goodies. Gimmie, gimmie, gimmie! You owe me!

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media." ~ William Colby, Director, CIA 1973–1976

The purpose of the legal system is to protect the elites from the wrath of those they plunder.- Elliott Jackalope

"When plunder becomes a way of life for a group of men living together in society, they create for themselves in the course of time a legal system that authorizes it and a moral code that justifies it." - Frederic Bastiat

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2009-12-27   14:40:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-27   14:42:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

A huge stepping stone on the road to tyranny Carter was!

Carter's 1976 campaign slogan was, and I quote, "Jimmy Carter. A leader, for a change."

Sound familiar?

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2009-12-27   18:15:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-27   18:24:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Eric Stratton (#7)

It's a cliche.

I'm for a real change of direction.

200+ years of Government expansion. Let's change direction to 200+ years of Government Shrinkage.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2009-12-27   23:35:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-28   4:04:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Eric Stratton (#9)

Meanwhile, the same people that claim you cannot sanction, talk, or diplomatically negotiate enemies into compliance hold lip-service tea parties to deal with their most threatening and ominous enemy of their own liberty and frankly, existence perhaps even.

What else can be done? As Claire Wolfe put it, its too late to work within the system and too early to start shooting them. Though, she later amended that to say she could find no moral justification NOT to shoot to them, but did not say it was time.

The first American Revolution started out in coffee shops and small groups. It took many years for it to grow into a shooting war.

Give the Tea Parties some time to incubate and come to the realization that they are wasting their time at the ballot box. Then we'll see some fireworks.

As for enemies - well - there are some enemies you can talk to and negotiate with. There are others like North Korea that will take your 'negotiating' and then turn around and tell you to shove it. So the Tea Parties are partly correct and we give them partial credit for that realization. Now we wait for them to come to complete understanding of diplomacy. When they realize that Washington DC cannot be 'negotiated with' then they will comprehend the full cycle of things.

It takes time. People aren't educated in a day. Most Obama fans will never become fully educated, but that's OK. They'll learn the hard way when things start falling apart around them.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2009-12-28   12:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-28   20:37:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eric Stratton (#11)

And time is not one luxury that we have on our side.

On the contrary, time works for us. The worse things get, the more the current crop of idiots makes things worse, the more the press cheerleads for totalitarianism, the better it gets for us.

Keep in mind, the longer the "mess" goes on, the angrier people get at whomever is in charge.

Right now, its Obama. Blaming Bush is no longer effective.

Time is something we have plenty of and works in our favor. The longer that problems drag on, the more incompetent they look, the more guns the people buy.

Right now time is an ally.

Keep in mind, if the system falls apart, "they" will not be able to handle a public who has lost everything. When there is nothing left to lose, people lose it.

Time is our greatest ally.

Wait for the "Marie Antoinette" moment and then the Bastille will be stormed.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2009-12-28   21:10:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-29   4:38:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#13)

Your hopes in the political process are misplaced.

I have no hopes in the political process, which is why I say time is an ally rather than an enemy.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2009-12-29   16:19:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: mirage (#14)

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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolf: 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)

Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-29   19:29:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Eric Stratton (#15)

I don't know how time can be on the side of good with the FedGov "digging in" by the minute now.

The more time goes by, the worse things get, the more The People will turn against the Feds. Already you can see it. What we need is more time and more and more bad things, mis-steps, and errors by our rulers in DC.

They can "dig in" all they want. As things get worse, as tax revenues decline, and as Obama, Pelosi, et al continue to live like 18th Century French Kings, the more The People will despise their masters in DC. The more tax revenues decline and the more they resort to debt, the greater the compounded problems become.

Time is our greatest ally. Well, time and the Democrat Party, that is. The Republicans, as bad as they are, go in smaller steps and boil the frog much more slowly. Democrats take big leaps and make it quite obvious what the game is.

Eventually there will be a Marie Antionette moment. There may in fact be several of them.

But we need time to make that happen.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2009-12-29   21:52:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: mirage (#16)

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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolf: 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)

Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-30   8:45:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eric Stratton (#17)

To think that they couldn't and more importantly wouldn't is a naive and unwise opinion.

On the contrary, if they do, then they open the doors not to 1776, but to 1789.

Time is an ally. The more time they have to be stupid, the better off we are.

Global food stocks are at an all-time low currently. You will be fine. I will be fine. Joe Sixpack will be screwed.

Joe will initially start raiding his neighbors, but eventually will turn on the Government once it is laid bare that the Government is the culprit. Already, you can see the news articles about how Congress, Obama, and Government workers are living high.

The media will turn on the Government and the Unions eventually. It has already started in dribs and drabs. As things get worse, as Interest rates rise, and as shortages appear, The People will demand that Government "do something" and as they blow it again and again, that's when things will get interesting.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2009-12-30   11:54:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolf: 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)

Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-30   12:32:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolf: 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)

Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-30   12:32:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Eric Stratton (#19)

So much here.

Yes, I am civil when others are civil. When they are not civil or are completely off their rocker, I am less civil on a sliding scale until I overtake the other person.

Keep in mind, we have a purely symbolic currency. A dollar is nothing more than a piece of paper with ink on it or some digits in a computer.

Now, if the Government simply hoovers out everyone's cash from the banks, it will be painfully obvious who did it and the peasants would then storm the Bastille. Think about it; 300 million people suddenly see their bank accounts evacuated and there is no reaction? People don't get angry and take action? That would be an incredible situation and completely discounts the fact that Americans are a vengeful people when they are wronged.

Look at the reaction after 9/11. Americans are perfectly happy to squabble among themselves UNTIL something "comes from outside" and at that point, the jackboots come out of the closet, the guns are cleaned, and the country goes on the warpath.

The Feds can't go to martial law because they can't afford it. They can't even afford to pay their own bills right now. The only way they could do it is to print the money, impose capital controls, and turn into a dictatorship.

That would then lead to Open Season on Government officials and employees. It doesn't take an army of millions to deal with a situation like that. It only takes a small group of dedicated people to instill fear in them.

It won't be 1776. It will be 1789. Sure, it looks lopsided, but think of it this way. How much trouble is the military having in Iraq with bombers? How much trouble did the British have with the IRA bombers?

It looks lopsided, but it isn't. You put too much faith in the "omniscient and omnipotent Government" and fail to realize that "The Government" is made of fallible people.

Afghanistan drove off the Soviets with a few stinger missiles and a bunch of AKs that were made over wood-based forges in caves.

The Feds may be making "moves towards their goals" but they will never get there because they can no longer pay for it. Very soon, a day of reckoning will arrive. Either they won't be able to borrow the money or printing it will make the currency worthless. At that point, you will see a radical downsizing and calls (as in Argentina) to hang the bastards.

Remember, soldiers show up for duty because they are fed and they are paid. When the Government can no longer do either, the soldiers no longer show up for work. Martial Law will never happen because they can't pay for enough guards to police a nation the size of a continent.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2009-12-30   12:51:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolf: 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)

Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-30   13:52:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Eric Stratton (#22)

It's good to talk/reason these things out

Indeed it is, and doubly so with pleasant company.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2009-12-30   22:12:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolf: 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)

Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-30   22:24:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolf: 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)

Eric Stratton  posted on  2009-12-31   6:18:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Eric Stratton (#25)

IYO what allowed East Germany to keep their socio-political situation going for 30 years?

IMO the issues were threefold.

First, the Soviets pumped the necessary capital in so they could afford the apparatus to make it happen.

Secondly, WWII. Having been Nazi, the people were already conditioned to certain things. During the war, Germany was destroyed. In a situation like that, people will seek stability and safety at nearly any cost. The Soviets also, shall we say, "made examples" of comrades who were not up to snuff. But that came from outside, not from within for the most part.

Thirdly, nobody tried to get a word in edgewise. The world was complacent and happy with the situation.

Let's take those situations and view them in the context of the USA, December 2009:

Capital - um, er, ah, who is going to prop up the US welfare system and military?
War Torn - Well, aside from Detroit, Flint, and some other rust belt cities, the place isn't a smoldering ruin. Also, despite the Feds' best efforts, there aren't Gestapo on every streetcorner and we don't have a 10-year history of turning in our neighbors for fun and profit.
Communications blackout - Um, we have Internet....

No comparison.

But the Soviet System and East Germany eventually collapsed under its own weight. So too will this system as will every other socialist or pseudo-socialist system.

Do note that in Venezuela, Hugo can't even keep people fed. His latest threats to Toyota don't mean anything as Toyota uses a just-in-time inventory system. Hugo can take the factory but he can't make cars because there won't be any parts. Just like his oil production keeps collapsing and he keeps having to revalue his Zimbabwean Currency, so too will the wheels continue to grind down to a halt there as well as here.

Only so much can be done by edict and fiat.

Now, the fearful part is, should a dictator arise and the people LIKE IT, as what went on in Franco's Spain, then you have a problem.

I just don't see it because such an apparatus cannot handle an empire the size of the US and its 300+ million whining squabbling citizens. Works well on a small scale, but doesn't work at something huge. Even the Soviets discovered this.

Now, you may ask, "But how did the Soviets do it?" and the answer is, "You need to study Russian culture, particularly the collectivist Rus and you will have your answer." America also has no concept of the "Fatherland" or the "Motherland" that is part of the collective mythology and is worth dying for despite the persons in charge.

Americans will lay down their lives for the abstract concept of "freedom" however. Note the all-volunteer military even during wartime. It has enough soldiers to function and no conscription is needed.

Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2009-12-31   12:49:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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"America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system, but too early to shoot the bastards." — Claire Wolf: 101 Things to Do 'Til the Revolution (1996)

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Somewhere, Jimmy Carter is laughing and saying, "Finally! I won't be the worst President ever!"

mirage  posted on  2010-01-01   13:20:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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