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Title: Glenn Beck does a hit job on Debra Medina on his show this morning
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Published: Feb 11, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-02-11 12:10:31 by christine
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Can anyone get the audio to post? Thanks in advance.
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#21. To: All (#0)
Did you all catch the Beck comment, "Rick (Perry), you and I can french kiss?" then they went on to discuss what a handsome man Perry is.

christine posted on 2010-02-11 13:52:00 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#23. To: All (#21)
the discussion/character assassination of Debra after she hung up was completely despicable.

christine posted on 2010-02-11 13:55:08 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#25. To: christine (#23)
So what's the beef? She doesn't want to cede Texas to Izzy, or what?

Esso posted on 2010-02-11 14:01:19 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#27. To: Esso (#25)
wikipedia's already got the following up:
"She claimed on February 11, 2010 on the Glenn Beck radio program that the United States government may have been involved in the coordination and execution of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.[1][2]"

groundresonance posted on 2010-02-11 14:22:25 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#35. To: groundresonance, ALL (#27)
www.examiner.com/examiner...na-about-911-conspiracies

Later in the day on Wednesday Debra Medina issued this statement:
"I was asked a question on the Glenn Beck show today regarding my thoughts on the so-called 9/11 truth movement. I have never been involved with the 9-11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way. No one can deny that the events on 9-11 were a tragedy for all Americans and especially those families who lost loved ones.
"The question surprised me because it's not relevant to this race or the issues facing Texans. This campaign has always been about private property rights and state sovereignty. It is focused on the issues facing Texans. It is not a vehicle for the 9-11 truth movement or any other group.
"The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered by so clearly taking their direction from special interests instead of the people, whether it's Rick Perry and the his HPV mandate or Kay Hutchison and voting for the bank bailout. It is absolutely the right and duty of a free people to question their government. Texas does not need another politician who tells you what you want to hear, then violates your liberties and steals your property anyway. I fully expect to be questioned and to be held accountable as Governor, and that's the underlying issue here: should people be questioning their government. And the answer is yes, they should be."

christine posted on 2010-02-11 14:33:39 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#45. To: christine (#35)
...there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.

She's less than worthless. Just another ZioNutter.

Esso posted on 2010-02-11 14:44:48 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#93. To: Esso, christine, Sonovademocrat, Lod, Jethro Tull, Cynicom, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, CadetD, IndieTX, bluegrass, HOUNDDAWG, Kamal, Deacon Benjamin, farmfriend, Original_Intent, noone222, groundresonance, James Deffenbach, Eric Stratton, Rotara, Horse (#45)
...there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.
She's less than worthless. Just another ZioNutter.

A couple of points, one I've made before to JT:
This is an example of how "conservatives" and "patriots" do more damage than the admitted Marxists. They wave flags, pray in public for the country, and pay homage to motherhood and pumpkin pie. But they're working at opposites to our national interests all the time, and they have influence with people who should know better. The worst part about it is that they don't even have to be "on the take" to do these things. They probably believe they're doing what they should. Beck probably sleeps fine at night, with a clear conscience.
Glenn Beck has one motivation for attacking Medina on these grounds: he himself is already considered a nutter as far as the left and center right is concerned. By attacking Medina for refusing to say she believes the Bush cabinet's explanation for the attacks he can lay claim to a tiny piece of "legitimacy." That's the situation we're in. I don't know Medina's history well. Someone, help me out here. But my guess is that she isn't a crackpot like Beck is himself. He's the one who touts any conspiracy theory that sounds conservative without ample evidence.
It's the knowing better part that I think matters the most here. We've got to admit that Americans are going to be held responsible for their ignorance.
The second point I'd like to make is to defend Medina's position. I doubt that any of us knows exactly what happened on 9/11. In all things, a governor should consider evidence that is free of innuendo and inference. All we can know for certain is that our three branches of government used the attacks of 9/11 to carry out an agenda that is many cases counter to American liberty and favors Israel's regional interests at the expense of our non-alignment. In other words, we can say for certain who benefited: Israel. We can say who lost: we lost freedom. Most of the other "truther" style evidence is debatable. It's not proof of something specific, not yet. So Ron Paul and Debra Medina have been logically correct in what they've said.
Our problem is to educate our fellow citizens. I haven't figured how to do it. Let me know when you've got an idea that will make a difference.

Deasy posted on 2010-02-11 19:21:11 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#124. To: Deasy (#93)
The second point I'd like to make is to defend Medina's position. I doubt that any of us knows exactly what happened on 9/11. In all things, a governor should consider evidence that is free of innuendo and inference. All we can know for certain is that our three branches of government used the attacks of 9/11 to carry out an agenda that is many cases counter to American liberty and favors Israel's regional interests at the expense of our non-alignment. In other words, we can say for certain who benefited: Israel. We can say who lost: we lost freedom. Most of the other "truther" style evidence is debatable. It's not proof of something specific, not yet. So Ron Paul and Debra Medina have been logically correct in what they've said.

you make some sense here, but i think both RP and Debra could have and should have said a lot less. had Debra just let it go with what she said in the interview, i would be satisfied. one thing one of these candidates/politicians seemingly are never able to do when questioned about 911 is turn it around on the questioner. she could have said she hasn't drawn any conclusions because we've (including the families of the victims) been unable to get answers from the government. she could have asked him if he had answers to many of the questions that the 911 commission failed to address? how about building 7?

christine posted on 2010-02-11 20:21:43 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#126. To: christine (#124) (Edited)
but i think both RP and Debra could have and should have said a lot less.

Well it's good to keep in mind that she probably hasn't thought this through as much as you have. I don't know, but my guess is that her personal life is probably a lot more ordinary than a cynical political forum administrator's. If she doesn't know very much about the history of 9/11 "doubt," then it's OK to say what she said. As far as reserving judgment, she's going to get asked about this a lot in the coming days so let's see how she does with more time.
he could have asked him if he had answers to many of the questions that the 911 commission failed to address? how about building 7?
That's if she had thought about it a lot, like you have. Even now that she's been attacked on the issue (why, for having truther supporters and going on the AJ show, what's the history?) she may not have better retorts. This may not be her big issue.
If she's an isolationist, wants to close the borders, and is against redistribution of wealth, then she has answered all of your questions except one. You might consider a live radio interview with her. Be up front: tell her front people what you believe, and that you want her to exchange views with you.

Deasy posted on 2010-02-11 20:27:57 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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#137. To: Deasy (#126)
If she's an isolationist, wants to close the borders, and is against redistribution of wealth, then she has answered all of your questions except one.

absolutely. i still support her and will vote for her. all things considered at this point in time, her thoughts on 911 aren't all that significant; especially because none of us will ever know what really happened.

christine posted on 2010-02-11 20:54:44 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#140. To: Deasy (#126)
Yep. From what little I know about TX politics, Medina seems head and shoulders above Perry and the other Washington insider in a skirt. That said, suppose Medina went on Beck today and said that a plane didn't hit the Pentagon, but rather a missile, and the plane, BTW, is missing without a trace some nine years later. She wouldn't be elected to the local school board, never mind state wide office. I believe her written response to 9-11 is her belief system as of today, and Beck chose to contort that into a dreaded "truther" position. Beck's old, but effective smear seems to have worked yet again. At least with some. As for me, given the desperate political times we're in, if I had a shot to dump Perry and/or Hutchinson, I'd take it.

Jethro Tull posted on 2010-02-11 21:15:31 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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