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Title: Glenn Beck does a hit job on Debra Medina on his show this morning
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Published: Feb 11, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-02-11 12:10:31 by christine
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Can anyone get the audio to post? Thanks in advance.

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#21. To: All (#0)

Did you all catch the Beck comment, "Rick (Perry), you and I can french kiss?" then they went on to discuss what a handsome man Perry is.

christine  posted on  2010-02-11   13:52:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: All (#21)

the discussion/character assassination of Debra after she hung up was completely despicable.

christine  posted on  2010-02-11   13:55:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: christine (#23)

So what's the beef? She doesn't want to cede Texas to Izzy, or what?

Esso  posted on  2010-02-11   14:01:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Esso (#25)

wikipedia's already got the following up:

"She claimed on February 11, 2010 on the Glenn Beck radio program that the United States government may have been involved in the coordination and execution of the 9/11 terrorist attacks.[1][2]"

groundresonance  posted on  2010-02-11   14:22:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: groundresonance, ALL (#27)

www.examiner.com/examiner...na-about-911-conspiracies

Later in the day on Wednesday Debra Medina issued this statement:

"I was asked a question on the Glenn Beck show today regarding my thoughts on the so-called 9/11 truth movement. I have never been involved with the 9-11 truth movement, and there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way. No one can deny that the events on 9-11 were a tragedy for all Americans and especially those families who lost loved ones.

"The question surprised me because it's not relevant to this race or the issues facing Texans. This campaign has always been about private property rights and state sovereignty. It is focused on the issues facing Texans. It is not a vehicle for the 9-11 truth movement or any other group.

"The real underlying question here, though, is whether or not people have the right to question our government. I think the fact that people are even asking questions on this level gets to the incredible distrust career politicians have fostered by so clearly taking their direction from special interests instead of the people, whether it's Rick Perry and the his HPV mandate or Kay Hutchison and voting for the bank bailout. It is absolutely the right and duty of a free people to question their government. Texas does not need another politician who tells you what you want to hear, then violates your liberties and steals your property anyway. I fully expect to be questioned and to be held accountable as Governor, and that's the underlying issue here: should people be questioning their government. And the answer is yes, they should be."

christine  posted on  2010-02-11   14:33:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: christine (#35)

...there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.

She's less than worthless. Just another ZioNutter.

Esso  posted on  2010-02-11   14:44:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Esso, christine, Sonovademocrat, Lod, Jethro Tull, Cynicom, TwentyTwelve, Wudidiz, CadetD, IndieTX, bluegrass, HOUNDDAWG, Kamal, Deacon Benjamin, farmfriend, Original_Intent, noone222, groundresonance, James Deffenbach, Eric Stratton, Rotara, Horse (#45)

...there is no doubt in my mind that Muslim terrorists flew planes into those buildings on 9/11. I have not seen any evidence nor have I ever believed that our government was involved or directed those individuals in any way.
She's less than worthless. Just another ZioNutter.

A couple of points, one I've made before to JT:

This is an example of how "conservatives" and "patriots" do more damage than the admitted Marxists. They wave flags, pray in public for the country, and pay homage to motherhood and pumpkin pie. But they're working at opposites to our national interests all the time, and they have influence with people who should know better. The worst part about it is that they don't even have to be "on the take" to do these things. They probably believe they're doing what they should. Beck probably sleeps fine at night, with a clear conscience.

Glenn Beck has one motivation for attacking Medina on these grounds: he himself is already considered a nutter as far as the left and center right is concerned. By attacking Medina for refusing to say she believes the Bush cabinet's explanation for the attacks he can lay claim to a tiny piece of "legitimacy." That's the situation we're in. I don't know Medina's history well. Someone, help me out here. But my guess is that she isn't a crackpot like Beck is himself. He's the one who touts any conspiracy theory that sounds conservative without ample evidence.

It's the knowing better part that I think matters the most here. We've got to admit that Americans are going to be held responsible for their ignorance.

The second point I'd like to make is to defend Medina's position. I doubt that any of us knows exactly what happened on 9/11. In all things, a governor should consider evidence that is free of innuendo and inference. All we can know for certain is that our three branches of government used the attacks of 9/11 to carry out an agenda that is many cases counter to American liberty and favors Israel's regional interests at the expense of our non-alignment. In other words, we can say for certain who benefited: Israel. We can say who lost: we lost freedom. Most of the other "truther" style evidence is debatable. It's not proof of something specific, not yet. So Ron Paul and Debra Medina have been logically correct in what they've said.

Our problem is to educate our fellow citizens. I haven't figured how to do it. Let me know when you've got an idea that will make a difference.

Deasy  posted on  2010-02-11   19:21:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Deasy (#93)

The second point I'd like to make is to defend Medina's position. I doubt that any of us knows exactly what happened on 9/11. In all things, a governor should consider evidence that is free of innuendo and inference. All we can know for certain is that our three branches of government used the attacks of 9/11 to carry out an agenda that is many cases counter to American liberty and favors Israel's regional interests at the expense of our non-alignment. In other words, we can say for certain who benefited: Israel. We can say who lost: we lost freedom. Most of the other "truther" style evidence is debatable. It's not proof of something specific, not yet. So Ron Paul and Debra Medina have been logically correct in what they've said.

you make some sense here, but i think both RP and Debra could have and should have said a lot less. had Debra just let it go with what she said in the interview, i would be satisfied. one thing one of these candidates/politicians seemingly are never able to do when questioned about 911 is turn it around on the questioner. she could have said she hasn't drawn any conclusions because we've (including the families of the victims) been unable to get answers from the government. she could have asked him if he had answers to many of the questions that the 911 commission failed to address? how about building 7?

christine  posted on  2010-02-11   20:21:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#149. To: christine (#124)

she could have said she hasn't drawn any conclusions because we've (including the families of the victims) been unable to get answers from the government. she could have asked him if he had answers to many of the questions that the 911 commission failed to address? how about building 7?

Correct.

I just wonder what dreck's people told her that they would be discussing. You know that it wasn't 9/11.

We have the benefit of what we know, in calm hindsight, but there she was, just an unwitting target for that tool's blindside attack.

Lod  posted on  2010-02-11   21:50:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#151. To: Lod, Christine, Jethro tull, All (#149)

just an unwitting target for that tool's blindside attack.

Well then, why not use the "attack" to her advantage.

Instead of defending her position, something he wanted her to do, ATTACK THE CREEP BACK WITH A SCATHING PUBLIC STATEMENT...worded so as to encourage her supporters and undermine Beck.

Defense NEVER wins in politics.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-11   21:55:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#154. To: Cynicom (#151)

Well then, why not use the "attack" to her advantage.

Instead of defending her position, something he wanted her to do, ATTACK THE CREEP BACK WITH A SCATHING PUBLIC STATEMENT...worded so as to encourage her supporters and undermine Beck.

i hope she does that, Cyni.

christine  posted on  2010-02-11   22:09:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#156. To: christine (#154)

i hope she does that, Cyni.

She wont.

Neophyte.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-11   22:13:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#158. To: Cynicom. all (#156)

Tomorrow, I'll be sure that this thread will be in her office.

I hope that it is all read, digested, and acted upon.

Lod  posted on  2010-02-11   22:17:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#162. To: Lod, christine, All (#158) (Edited)

Sir Lod..

In checking a long bio of Beck.

Here is where Miss Medina should start...what follows is from a bio of Beck...

"Radio historian Marc Fisher has posited that Beck is "first and foremost an entertainer."

His bio and background is rather lurid...A dream come true for anyone wishing to put Beck in his real position in political life.

Cynicom  posted on  2010-02-11   22:28:51 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#163. To: Cynicom (#162)

Beck=speck

Ferret Mike  posted on  2010-02-11 22:38:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#164. To: Cynicom, All, Email from Medina List (#162)

All,

I have received numerous emails and calls responding to Debra Medina’s radio interview with Glen Beck today. This email is a reply to the questions being raised about Debra Medina as a result of the interview. I will leave it to each of you to come to your own conclusion once you have investigated both sides of this debate.

One simple truth is that Debra Medina is intentionally putting herself in front of as many microphones as possible to communicate her message to the voters of Texas. This free publicity helps her compete against well funded candidates who can remain silent on the issues but flood the airwaves with their rehearsed ads. Speaking to a live audience has its benefits but potential pitfalls as well.

I would ask that you please read Debra's Press Release clarifying her position with respect to the questions raised during the Glen Beck interview before reacting to the opinions of others. Clearly her answer to Glen Beck could have been more succinct. That is the beauty of live broadcasts. Every spoken word presents the opportunity for a misstep.

http://www.medinafortexas.com/getPost?p=272

Keep in mind that Debra's message has always been about the preservation of individual freedoms. She includes among these freedoms the right of individuals to question our government. For some this means the freedom to question government mandated healthcare, or our participation in wars against other countries and for a minority it means the freedom to question the birthplace of Barak Obama or to demand more information about the events of Sept. 11th.

Debra’s positions on property tax, imminent domain, border security and nullification all stem from her strong belief that a failure to restrain government from exceeding the limits defined within our Constitution will be at the expense of individual freedoms.

Debra also believes it is not the right of government to restrict an individuals 1st amendment rights that include an individuals right to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

The reality remains this campaign is about what is best for the people of Texas. Debra's competitors favor big government solutions to solve our big problems. Big government has provided Texans with a national ranking of 47th in education, a $14 BILLION 2010 budget deficit, support for government confiscation of private property and alignment with special interests and in opposition to individual freedom of choice.

The Glen Beck interview like the efforts to paint Debra as a radical who wants to legalize drugs and prostitution are attempts by the status quo to move the conversation away from the real issues. This election remains in the hands of Texas voters to shift through the facts and vote for the candidate who offers the best answers to the challenges facing this great state.

Regards,

David Kuhn

christine  posted on  2010-02-11 22:40:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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