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Title: BP Oil Spill Worst, Workers Getting Sick, Minerals Mgmt Fired - May 27, 2010
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Published: May 27, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-05-27 12:48:11 by christine
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#1. To: christine (#0)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Eric Stratton posted on 2010-05-27 13:10:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: christine (#0)
I was offline for most of last week, and don't know what, if anything was said about MMS. I spent a few hours searching past posts, and didn't find anything yet, so just in case, since this video says MMS is an obscure organization, for the record, excerpts of some things I ran across :

BREAKING NEWS: U.S. Minerals Management Service chief Elizabeth Birnbaum fired, sources tell AP
"...The AC from NZ
User ID: 951237
New Zealand
5/27/2010 10:53 AM

Again, it's all because of her letter that she wrote to BP regarding the Atlantis platform which I tried to alert everybody about in this thread here [link to http://www.godlikeproductions.com] - which is an ORIGINAL document from way back in February that proves that BP knowlingly ignored pleas and warnings from Ms. Birnbaum that the oil platform is headed for CATASTROPHE...
..and lo and behold what happened? That's right.. sure enough, it blew up...
...and now Ms. Birnbaum is fired from her job. Put the pieces together people. Look at my thread and READ the PDF file - it's a signed original document - you won't get any more closer to the truth than that. Serious shit is going down, folks......"

comment at 11:32: "So maybe we have a reason for her hasty departure,
Birnbaum was scheduled to testify before the House Appropriations Committee Thursday morning about the oil spill but she will not appear, Fox News has confirmed. Her deputy, Secretary David Hayes will testify in her place alongside Interior Secretary Ken Salazar."

comment at 12:30 PM
The first paragraph of the letter confirms it for me:
" . . . This platform, the largest oil and natural gas platform in the world, may be operating without crucial engineering documents, which, if absent, would increase the risk of a catastrophic accident that would threaten not only the workers on the platform, but also the Gulf of Mexico and the communities who depend on the resources it provides."
Congressmen are not prophetic they are for profit . . . "
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1078562/pg1
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ATKHWDI Note: The Letter was not FROM Birnbaum, it was addressed TO her, from a handful of Congressmen. It was sent February 24, 2010, and made reference to a whistleblower ["he"] warning BP in March, 2009 that 90% of the required permits may have been lacking:

SMOKING GUN PROOF BP KNOWINGLY DODGED COMPLIANCE REGULATIONS ON ATLANTIS PLATFORM BACK IN FEB!
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 951237
New Zealand
5/26/2010 5:31 AM
".....Everyone needs to read this. Aaron McCollum has sourced document proof from back in February (from the Minerals Management Service, signed by various members of Congress) warning BP of a catastrophic accident if they continue to dodge compliance regulations. Pass this around, email it to media outlets.. this is the smoking gun of culpability right here!
And to be clear, this is SPECIFICALLY PERTAINING to the Atlantis platform in the Gulf of Mexico - that's right - the one that blew up! Here we have it, folks. BP have blood on their hands - and they were warned about it. Here's the PDF file:
[link to http://www.npr.org]
Please spread this far and wide.. to your Facebook friends, email to your colleagues and family.. we all deserve to know the truth. Aaron says he has many other documents he can bring out in the open. Let's bust this thing wide open!....."
"....Anonymous Coward
User ID: 983404
United States
5/27/2010 11:49 AM

Yet Congress and no other federal agency did anything. Wanna know why?
“If BP faces heavy federal scrutiny, it’s well-positioned to fight back: The London-based company has consistently spent top dollar to influence legislative and regulatory activity in Washington, D.C.,” the Center states.
[link to http://renovomedia.com]

Year: 1999
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $5,684,794
Chemical & Related Manufacturing $80,000
Year: 2000
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $4,150,000
Chemical & Related Manufacturing $60,000
Year: 2001
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $2,160,000
Chemical & Related Manufacturing $20,000
Year: 2002
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $3,032,000
Year:2003
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $2,574,000
Year: 2004
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $1,900,000
Year: 2005
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $2,920,000
Year: 2006
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $3,650,000
Year: 2007
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $4,640,000
Year:2008
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $10,450,000
Year: 2009
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $15,990,000
Year: So far in 2010
BP Lobbying by Industry Industry Total
Oil & Gas $3,530,000
[link to http://www.opensecrets.org]
Thats 45,659,000 spent lobbying Congress.
Think your federal legislators haven't been bought and sold?
[[link to godlikeproductions http://godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1078192/pg1 ]]......

Anonymous Coward
User ID: 983313
United States
5/27/2010 11:55 AM

So many obvious questions and violations:
-One year before disaster, BP paid an expert to review safety and then failed to respond to any recommendations
[link to http://www.truthout.org]
- Rig crew argued before the explosion
[link to http://online.wsj.com]
- BP failed to perform a CBL safety test before the fire.
[link to http://www.theoildrum.com]
-Safety contractor pulled employees from rig just hours before explosion
[link to http://www.nola.com]
Halliburton bought clean up company ten days before spill
[link to http://www.thestreet.com]
-One year before disaster, BP paid an expert to review safety and then failed to respond to any recommendations
[link to http://www.truthout.org]
Rig workers sequestered and forced to sign waiver
[link to http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]
Transocean made 270 million from the insurance payoff after disaster
[link to http://www.godlikeproductions.com]
Transocean pays out a 1 billion dollar dividend to shareholders following rig disaster
[link to http://rawstory.com]
BP executives on board rig "celebrating safety record"
[link to http://rawstory.com]
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 982464....."
"Anonymous Coward
User ID: 962698
Australia
5/27/2010 12:27 PM
And to be clear, this is SPECIFICALLY PERTAINING to the Atlantis platform in the Gulf of Mexico - that's right - the one that blew up! Quoting: Anonymous Coward 951237
Atlantis is not the one that is leaking, but it is 12X larger and HALF A KILOMETRE deeper"
Atlantis:
600 million barrels
6,500 ft
[link to en.wikipedia.org]
Macondo
50 million barrels
5,000 ft..."

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1077262/pg1
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**** LETTER FROM CONGRESSMEN TO BP ON FEBRUARY 24, 2010:

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/Grijalva%20MMS%20ltr.pdf
FOIA request for their reply?

Several comments relating to the name ATLANTIS, I missed the first time around. I too found the name interesting, particularly if this is an Illuminati "event" [which I have NO problem believing]. This supposedly is NOT the one that is leaking, however, or is it? Note above that Atlantis is deeper and presumably further out from shore. I wonder if Atlantis has anything to do with this:
4um Matt Simmons: "There's Another leak, much bigger 5 to 6 miles away:
http://www.freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=118558

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Then there's this:
Air Strike?
The following is the letter I (Lewis Mohr)sent to Transocean this morning conveying my concerns that their Rig was possibly attacked from the air. [See the first picture] I believe a clear message from the bankers in "The City" of London was sent to the people of The United States of America that energy independence will not be tolerated.....
http://www.freedomyell.com/political-editorial/18-air-strike

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search "british petroleum rothschild"
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2010-05-29 14:25:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, christine, noone222, Jethro_Tull, James Deffenbach, wudidiz, farmfriend, CadetD, abraxas, Lod, Esso, HOUNDDAWG, SonOfLiberty, Eric Stratton, Phant2000, Cynicom, X-15, Itistoolate, Tom007, Artisan, Scrapper2, ratcat, all (#2)
More and More this "leak" looks like an intentional and planned event. The evidence both direct, thanks to your addition, and circumstantial all points in that direction.
Thus the news blackout in the American Media makes sense as they continue to try to keep the general public from becoming aware just how devastating this event is.
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Original_Intent posted on 2010-05-29 14:45:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: Original_Intent (#3)
The mysterious leak 3,000' away has been swept under the oil slick. It's time to depth charge this sucker.
OBAMA'S KATRINA
SPEW, BABY, SPEW
Jethro Tull posted on 2010-05-29 14:49:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Jethro Tull, pinguinite (#4)
It's time to depth charge this sucker.

How shall that activity repair the issue(s) ... are you using common American logic that random acts of destruction fix things such as in a war? What makes you think that such an act won't exacerbate the problems?
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
buckeroo posted on 2010-05-29 14:54:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#2)
Several comments relating to the name ATLANTIS, I missed the first time around. I too found the name interesting, particularly if this is an Illuminati "event"

DEATH OF THE PHOENIX

FINAL ACT FOR THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA
watch.pair.com/death-phoenix.html

Death of the Phoenix - Final Act for the United States - Atlantis Rising
watch.pair.com/atlantis-rising.html
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2010-05-29 17:13:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: christine (#0)
Obama's going to cancel leases and stop further drilling?
Such manly and decisive crisis leadership!
That's like forbidding someone from boarding more horses in a barn that has burned to the ground.
And, for Obama to criticize "the cozy relationship between MMS and the industries they're supposed to regulate", well, where has he been for the past umpteen years, as both parties lined their pockets with lobbyists' bux guaranteeing bipartisan support for the corporate plunder of America?
Obama is a product of the most corrupt machine in the US (Cook County, IL) and his own mother wouldn't buy that deux deux he's mouthing these days.
Are we supposed to take such rank political posturing seriously?
Suuuure, Barack, blame the low level bureaucrats and regulators even though every time they posed obstacles to corporate profit schemes they were removed/bypassed by congress, cabinet officers or the president himself.
"You wanna buy the Grand Canyon and stockpile nuclear and industrial waste/heavy water down there? Sure, we can make a deal!
Entrepreneurs And Government Working Hand In Hand For A Better America!"

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2010-05-29 17:45:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Original_Intent, all (#2)
So many obvious questions and violations:
-One year before disaster, BP paid an expert to review safety and then failed to respond to any recommendations [link to http://www.truthout.org]
- Rig crew argued before the explosion [link to http://online.wsj.com]
- BP failed to perform a CBL safety test before the fire. [link to http://www.theoildrum.com]
-Safety contractor pulled employees from rig just hours before explosion [link to http://www.nola.com]
Halliburton bought clean up company ten days before spill [link to http://www.thestreet.com]
-One year before disaster, BP paid an expert to review safety and then failed to respond to any recommendations [link to http://www.truthout.org]
Rig workers sequestered and forced to sign waiver [link to http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com]
Transocean made 270 million from the insurance payoff after disaster [link to http://www.godlikeproductions.com]
Transocean pays out a 1 billion dollar dividend to shareholders following rig disaster [link to http://rawstory.com]
BP executives on board rig "celebrating safety record" [link to http://rawstory.com]

Links not working?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-05-29 17:54:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#2)
i'm speechless. thanks for the research and post. it's very much appreciated.

christine posted on 2010-05-29 18:16:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: HOUNDDAWG (#7)
Obama is a product of the most corrupt machine in the US (Cook County, IL) and his own mother wouldn't buy that deux deux he's mouthing these days.

some hope and change, ObamaFOOLS.

christine posted on 2010-05-29 18:19:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: christine (#9) (Edited)
And to be clear, this is SPECIFICALLY PERTAINING to the Atlantis platform in the Gulf of Mexico - that's right - the one that blew up!

is he trying to say the atlantis platform blew up?
...because it didnt.

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 18:23:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: christine (#9)
but i guess we shouldnt let anything stand in the way of a good doomer porn story, should we?

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 18:25:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: groundresonance (#12)
uh no. i want the facts. if what's posted gets discredited, that's good.

christine posted on 2010-05-29 18:32:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: christine (#13)

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 18:33:32 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: christine, groundresonance (#14)
WHAM!!
Big graphic in your face.
Figure that out.
Put that in your pipe and smoke it.
How d'ya like them apples?.....
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-05-29 18:37:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: christine (#13)
i want the facts.

i gotta tell you... trying to keep the crazies on an even keel is driving me to drink.

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 18:37:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: groundresonance (#16)
driving me to drink

When you can't type properly anymore, pass out, eh?
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-05-29 18:39:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: wudidiz (#17) (Edited)
then there's molecular miscegenation... or whatever it's called.
pretty soon i'll be blind even when i'm sober, then you'll be left to your own devices.

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 18:42:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: groundresonance, all (#18)
What'll we do without you?
Gotta run.
If you get hungry eat something....
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-05-29 18:44:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: All (#19)
I'm gonna make the hockey player and get the puck outta here...
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-05-29 18:44:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: wudidiz (#8)
Links not working?

the full url's are at the link [sorry, my computer is really dragging and i can't grab them for you]

www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1077262/pg1
scroll down about half way to:
Anonymous Coward
User ID: 983313
5/27/2010 11:55 AM
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2010-05-29 18:55:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: christine (#13) (Edited)
he sits in his shack drinkin' oly all day
gazin' out the window at the neighbors
he's a little too crazy for the kids to play with
and a little too lazy to labor
and the days drag on and the years fly by
oh they sure didnt do him any favors
uh huh oh yeah
everyone agrees
he needs something to do

and it's oly all day

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 19:06:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: buckeroo, Cynicom, all (#5)
www.sott.net/articles/sho...ets-did-something-similar

Your golf balls and tea bags didn't work. Maybe we can send down your wallet, buckeroo? That should be big enough.
OBAMA'S KATRINA
SPEW, BABY, SPEW
Jethro Tull posted on 2010-05-29 19:09:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: groundresonance, christine, all (#16)
i want the facts.
i gotta tell you... trying to keep the crazies on an even keel is driving me to drink.

Judging from your comments I think you need to back away from bottle - slowwwwly. We wouldn't want you to fall.
Ain't it just soooooo frustrating that people here just refuse to accept the official ~~line~~ lyin' without examining those pesky facts?
"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator
Original_Intent posted on 2010-05-29 19:24:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Original_Intent (#24) (Edited)
pesky facts

the most pesky fact seems to be that the US hardly even noticed when a comparable spill occurred in the gulf of mexico in 1980.
but according to you, now we're faced with a global extinction event.

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 19:26:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Original_Intent (#24)
we have to assume you're an idiot.

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 19:27:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: christine (#13)
here's another one, christine....don't know if it was posted:
***Parish Officials Who Commandeered BP Oil Boats Threatened With Military Arrest (VID)*** www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1079039/pg1
money for "israel"; money for war; no money for america. the emperor wears no clothes.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2010-05-29 19:39:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: Original_Intent (#24) (Edited)
there's a certain train of logic at work here... pretty flimsy, but given the poisonous shit you people have swallowed from alex jones and the rest of the crazies, maybe your brains have been damaged...
the logic runs like this: if we can convince enough people that this is the end of the world, maybe we can recruit people into deathwish christian cults.
most deathwish christian cults believe that support of israel is a big part of the deathwish christian end times (nevermind that jews will be exterminated in the deathwish christian end times, and deathwish christians may have to give god a little help in exterminating jews)
the question always becomes: will this oil spill contribute, by the flimsy logic of deathwish christians, to the extermination of jews?
the next question is: is it a good thing if you get snatched up to heaven and thereby escape suffering the consequences of destroying of the planet?

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 19:41:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#27) (Edited)
there's not a reason in hell a deathwish christian would refrain from destroying the planet...
...in view of the fact that he's gonna go to heaven and escape the consequences of a dying planet.

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 19:51:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: groundresonance (#28) (Edited)
this world is not ending, as i posted a few days ago, but this "new" world order may be.
what i started to post a while ago, but my computer was so slow, and you were so rude, i didn't bother:

search "rothschild british petroleum"
Rothschild Scepter of Judah/British-Israel [ www.seekgod.ca/identity.htm ] site: http://scepterofjudah.com/
52 Themes Restoration of Davidic Zionism http://www.scepterofjudah.net/SJ...dicZionismin52Themes.html [Bible passages to go along with their Armageddon plot in the links on the left.] The Jews will be their own "messiah".
http://www.lordmayorsshow.org/visitors/history/gogmagog / Ezekiel 38-39; Rev. 20:7-9 [we're Israel and "the beloved city" (New Jerusalem)]. Sure hope God takes these crack-pots out soon. He just may let them have their way with us to bring more into the [new] covenant: Ezekiel 20:33-38. They may be the "rod in His hand" to do that. 2 Chronicles 7:14.

something tells me you won't have a clue about what it's about.

=======
"HEAVEN AND EARTH SHALL PASS AWAY" [...They did, by A.D. 70.]
"... And as we have seen earlier (in Psalm 104:5 and Ecclesiastes 1:4) this earth will stand forever. See also the following passages:
"And he built his sanctuary like high palaces, like the earth which he hath established forever." (Psalm 78:69).
"Praise him, ye heavens of heavens, and ye waters that be above the heavens .. . "He hath also stablished them for ever and ever: he hath made a decree which shall not pass" (Psalm 148:4,6).
"He hath also the world also is stablished, that it cannot be moved" (Psalm 93:1).
“... the world also shall be established that it shall not be moved:...” (Psalm 96:10). ...."
freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=118508
The meek shall inherit the earth, something they can't do if there is no earth to inherit.
Matthew 5:5 Blessed are the meek, for they will inherit the earth. Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth-This promise to the meek is but a repetition of Ps 37:11; ... bible.cc/matthew/5-5.htm
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2010-05-29 19:56:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#30) (Edited)
"rothschild british petroleum"

i dont see anything peculiar at all with a change of command ceremony: european jews getting snookered out of their BP holdings by richard perle, bill kristol and wolfie.
how you gonna achieve "benevolent global hegemony", dependent on control of oil, when one of the biggest companies in the world is controlled by obsolete european jews?

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 19:59:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: groundresonance (#31)
Sir Uncle Sam : Knight of the British Empire : John T. Whiteford ... Sir Uncle Sam : Knight of the British Empire (1940). Author: John T. Whiteford www.archive.org/details/S...mKnightOfTheBritishEmpire
The Pilgrim Society & English Speaking Union
Congressman Thorlkelson's speech was based on Sir Uncle Sam, Knight of the British Empire! by John J. Whiteford (1940). ... watch.pair.com/pilgrim.html
Psalm 2.
"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm
AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt posted on 2010-05-29 20:11:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#32) (Edited)
sorry, but i dont think the jewish mommy's boys in america will accept anything but global domination.
that's how they've been brought up.

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 20:17:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#32)
and, in the interest of honesty, you should admit, here and now, that you were wrong about that atlantis bullshit.

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 20:21:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: HOUNDDAWG (#7)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."
Eric Stratton posted on 2010-05-29 21:17:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: christine (#13) (Edited)
i guess the problem is: why do you encourage crazies?
are you that crazy yourself?
has your mind been crippled?
is this what you want?
are you getting what you want?
and, if this is what you want, why do you want it, and then say "i want the facts" when so many of your contributors are outright idiots who have contempt for facts?

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 21:20:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: christine (#13) (Edited)
then we have to figure out... how many of your regular posters are useful idiots... witting useful idiots vs unwitting useful idiots, both of which (witting and unwitting) post straw men to be knocked to by other useful idiots...
what it boils down to is... it's hard for me to believe you're this stupid.

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 21:46:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#21)
Okay, got it. Thank you : )
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-05-29 22:17:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: groundresonance (#37)
what it boils down to is... it's hard for me to believe you're this stupid.

Christine's not stupid, she's smart. You're stupid. And a bit of a wackjob too. Shut up.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-05-29 22:39:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: christine (#13)
#37. To: christine (#13) (Edited)
then we have to figure out... how many of your regular posters are useful idiots... witting useful idiots vs unwitting useful idiots, both of which (witting and unwitting) post straw men to be knocked to by other useful idiots...
what it boils down to is... it's hard for me to believe you're this stupid.
groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 21:46:44 ET

christine:
I am impressed by your ability to keep quiet while an obviously impaired poster attacks you and everyone other than him with insults and name calling.
He also presumes he has the intelligence to judge others as idiots and stupid, all the while proving to those of us unimpaired posters that he couldn't judge a toilet seat. Need I say more?

Phant2000 posted on 2010-05-29 22:39:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: wudidiz (#39) (Edited)
you're pretty sure christine exists outside of images of a contract model, huh? ...i mean, the phony stupidity is putting me off.

groundresonance posted on 2010-05-29 22:44:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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