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Title: War Funding Bill Passes Senate
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URL Source: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/201 ... /27/war-funding-passes-senate/
Published: May 27, 2010
Author: AP
Post Date: 2010-05-27 22:03:10 by christine
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The Senate has passed a bill to fund President Barack Obama's troop surge in Afghanistan.
The almost $60 billion measure passed by a bipartisan 67-28 tally.
More than half of the funding would go to the Pentagon, mostly to support Obama's influx of 30,000 troops to Afghanistan.
There's also $5 billion to replenish disaster aid accounts, as well as funding for Haitian earthquake relief and aid to U.S. allies in the war on terror.
The bill includes legislation to allow the Coast Guard to receive advances of up to $100 million from the oil spill liability trust fund to pay for the federal response to spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
The House has yet to approve the war funding measure, which faces opposition from many anti-war lawmakers. Subscribe to *You Gotta Be Shitting Me*
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#1. To: christine (#0)
The almost $60 billion measure passed by a bipartisan 67-28 tally.

Those people love war.
Truman started wars without Congress approval 60 years ago next month.
Since then congress has not had the courage to say no and keep evading their responsibility.

Cynicom posted on 2010-05-27 22:08:08 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Cynicom (#1)
Truman started wars without Congress approval 60 years ago next month.

Only after Congress passed a law giving the authority to declare war to the UN Security Council.

DeaconBenjamin posted on 2010-05-27 23:08:57 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#21. To: DeaconBenjamin (#15)
"National Security and the Communist Threat: Korea, Vietnam, and Nicaragua
The Korean War
World War II and nuclear weapons made the U.S. and the Soviet Union world powers. In the cold war that followed between them, national security became the chief concern of American presidents. In 1950, President Harry Truman saw communist North Korea's invasion of South Korea as a threat to the U.S.This is what President Truman cited in his decision to send troops to Korea.
While Senator Robert Taft supported the use of force in Korea, he saw "no legal authority for it." Senator Paul Douglas justified the president's action, emphasizing 1) the need to react swiftly to a "disaster that can occur while Congress is assembling and debating" and 2) the U.S.'s interest in preventing "communist aggression" (given the Soviet Union's almost certain sponsorship of North Korea's incursion). Such reasoning "would guide American military actions for most of the remainder of the twentieth century," according to Gerald Astor in Presidents at War.
But this justification for war, under the banner of "national security," would also open the door for presidents of both parties to repeatedly intervene in other countries, either overtly or covertly. A president might call for the use of American military, as in Grenada (Reagan). Or, as in Guatemala (Eisenhower), the president might authorize secret use of a local military to overthrow a foreign leader that was viewed by American officials as a threat to U.S. interests. The president might secretly supply arms and intelligence, as to the Afghani mujahideen who were fighting the Soviets (Carter). Or the president might order the bombing of suspected jihadists, as in Sudan (Clinton).
"In none of these cases did the Congress exercise its power "to declare war." In some cases, only a few congressional leaders even received briefings about what the U.S. was doing, while most legislators were left in the dark."

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