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Title: Oilpocalypse Now Take I
Source: Freedom4um
URL Source: http://Here
Published: May 30, 2010
Author: Me
Post Date: 2010-05-30 15:46:52 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Phytoplankton, Oil, methane, ocean
Views: 21772
Comments: 119

This is really the bottom line. We have an event in the Gulf which has now stretched on for more than 5 weeks which is emptying toxins into the ocean and the atmosphere at a cataclysmic rate. In looking at the problem I am trying to anticipate its likely effects and consequences.

Looking at the Gulf Oil catastrophe how does that affect the planetary system? Our oceans have been called the cradle of life and much of life on earth remains dependent on those oceans. If you disrupt the ocean system you disrupt, indirectly, life everywhere. The gushers have not yet been stoppered and there is currently no realistic prospect that they will be anytime soon.

Obama is obviously bought and paid for and the Feral Government's incompetent and even obeisant response to BP's actions and inactions is clearly obvious to anyone who cares to look honestly.

The environmental damage is at this point hard to calculate. Most people seem to be thinking too small - just in terms of its affect on the Gulf. This is not going to be contained to the Gulf. Yes, the Gulf is going to become a massive "Dead Zone" but as the oil spreads out on the Gulf stream it is going to begin to have an impact on larger and larger areas.

As is frequently the case people are reluctant, and even blind, to looking at a very large problem on the correct scale. The volume of oil and gas coming out of those holes is beyond the normal scale of human catastrophes. If not contained relatively soon this is potentially an Extinction Level Event. The one unknown variable is the volume of oil in the pool that has been ruptured. Based on the evidence and speculations I have read it is most likely to be measured in the TRILLIONS of gallons.

The best expert estimates I have seen are that minimally we have 2.9 MILLION GALLONS of Oil escaping into the Gulf each day. The volume of methane is about treble that. BP, in an effort to camouflage its true scale is pumping hundreds of thousands of gallons of even more toxic oil dispersant into the volcano. To get an idea of the scale think of the largest stadium you know, fill it with oil every day, dump it on the surrounding landscape, and then refill it TWICE each day. Then you begin to get an approximation of the volume of oil escaping.

Most people are aware of the toxic nature of petroleum, but are not used to thinking in terms of gases. Methane, in the ocean, replaces oxygen and carbon dioxide in the water. Fish and Mammals require oxygen and the plant life requires carbon dioxide for normal metabolism. Remove that by replacing it with a toxic gas, and methane is a poison, and you have a result that is a toxic cloud unseen creeping through the Gulf killing both plant and animal life. And it is growing at a catastrophic rate each day.

Most people are aware of the Amazon Rain Forest and what that plant life means to the production of breathable Oxygen. However, most people are unaware that the oceans produce 50 to 70 percent of the available free oxygen. This is done by ocean plant life mostly in the form of what is known as Phytoplankton. Phytoplankton are small, often single cell, micro plants that form the base of the ocean food chain. Phytoplankton takes dissolved carbon dioxide and minerals from the sea water, and with the input of energy in the form of sunlight, through photosynthesis they create cellular matter which is then consumed by the next higher level of the food chain and on and on with the larger consuming the smaller until you reach the top of the food chain.

So, why the lecture on the ocean ecosystem? Because the Gulf produces as much or more oxygen than the entire Amazon Rain Forest. Let that sink in for a moment. Try to wrap your mind around that scale, and then realize that the Gulf is only part of the picture - more on that in a moment. As the cloud of death in the form of toxic petroleum and methane permeates the gulf things are going to begin to die. And the cloud of petroleum also reduces the amount of sunlight reaching the phytoplankton thus inhibiting photosynthesis. So, even before it dies from the toxins in the water its metabolism is going to be slowed by the unnatural shade and its consumption of carbon dioxide and output of free oxygen will be inhibited.

Under the surface the heavier oil is suspended as a large black cloud. Oceanographers have already noticed it in photos and in sampling from 2,000 feet down. As this heavier oil reaches coastal inclines it will be forced upward into shallower waters and befouling everything in its path. This cloud is so heavy that no life whatsoever can exist within it - saving perhaps a few bacteria.

Now think on a larger scale. The Gulf is not an isolated pond of water - it is part of the larger ocean that is simply a back pool but is connected to the larger ocean by the inwelling and outwelling of currents and tides. So, what happens in the Gulf will eventually spread into the larger open ocean - with the same effects.

As the growing cloud of petroleum and methane begins to move into the Atlantic, in addition to fouling beaches and killing wildlife, it will be a cloud of death to ocean life large and small. The last major event in the Gulf went unplugged for about 9 months, but it was about one third or less the size of this oil volcano. At the current minimum rate of flow the amount of petroleum that will have entered Gulf waters will, in just one year, exceed one BILLION gallons. Again pause to take that in as I know that these numbers are so large that most people are going to have difficulty with the scale. And the volume of methane will be treble that. And this is just based on the estimated flow rate which could be even greater than what we currently know. The government and BP are fighting furiously to keep the real numbers from the public.

At that rate the entire Gulf will become a Dead Zone in about a year. All the while the cloud creeps out into surrounding waters moving up and down coast lines killing virtually everything in its path.

Extrapolating outward the cloud begins to affect coastal fisheries and marine life of all kinds up and down the shorelines of two continents, and still it spreads. Since many third world communities rely upon fisheries for food and subsistence disease and death will follow in its wake. This is of course the “worst case scenario”, but at this point in time the actions taken to staunch the ruptured seabed from leaking devastating amounts of toxins into are incompetent and ineffective.

Carried out to its cataclysmic extreme, with no effective action to stop the flow of oil and gas, the potential exists to inhibit the greater ocean’s carbon dioxide absorbtion, and oxygen production, to the point that the atmosphere of the planet itself tips over into toxic.

May God Have Mercy on Our Souls.

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#63. To: FormerLurker (#62)

And the Goldman Sachs investigation is over.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-31   2:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: farmfriend, original_intent (#23)

good grief. outstanding article, with the Revelations verse sending it over the top. Chilling!!

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-05-31   10:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: abraxas, wudidiz (#41)

speaking of 2012 i watched it last night. but amanda peet, the lead, is a truly disgusting shill for vaccines. her pop in law was head of fed. reserve bank of NY.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-05-31   10:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Artisan (#65)

I like Cusak, but I haven't seen 2012. Hollywood has long been a propaganda arm for Zionist interests. Long ago, they went after Marlon Brando and not much has changed since then. Sigh.

The prophecy, both Revelation and the Hopi, re: oil and this spill is eery.......

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   10:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: FormerLurker (#62)

I'm beginning to wonder if this is an act of Israel and/or the Rothchilds in order to show Obama and Congress what they can do if they don't get their way.

I know Jeff Rense floated that as a speculation the other day as well. Hard to say from the available evidence, but there are hints that not all occurred as has been misrepresented.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   12:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: abraxas (#66)

I like Cusak, but I haven't seen 2012.

Movie was full of stunts that make you say, "oh yeah right, like they could actually do that."


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-31   12:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: FormerLurker (#62)

I'm beginning to wonder if this is an act of Israel and/or the Rothchilds in order to show Obama and Congress what they can do if they don't get their way.

Look at the "Investigate the FED" matter for instance, or Obama's apparent loss of love for Israel as of the past several months, where the Israelis appear insulted that Obama didn't kiss their ass enough for their liking.

They wanted to remind everyone who the boss is perhaps.

This could all be an act of terrorism that IS being committed by the same people who REALLY brought us 9/11.

Some folks would say that's over the top, Lurker.

I'd say that you are right on the money.

They are lashing out HARD in all directions.

Expropriate British Petroleum.

randge  posted on  2010-05-31   13:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Original_Intent, christine (#3)

I think it should be clear at this point that Buckie is a paid poster whose function is to disrupt.

C'mon, Original_Intent, join the dark side with me. We have bikini clad women at our beckon call, all the narcotics you can reasonably handle, cars, homes and yes it is true .... piles of freshly printed cash by Ben Bernarke, himself. Plus and on top of the day to day working benefits just described, we receive an attractive incentive and bonus plan that sometimes dwarfs our petty salary package, which is meaningless in contrast.

Why, I am shaded under a grove of palm trees while laying in my hammock gently swaying in the cool breeze while I am receiving both a pedicure and a manicure by HUGE breasted women right now. In fact, they are peeling the tender skin off my grapes as we chit chat right now and popping the same into mouth!

No worries on this side of the fence. Life is good! Join us before our recruiting quota is filled up by tomorrow ...... we all receive unlimited capability to cast as many votes as we feel fit to perform and there is no income taxes to pay. Time is running out!

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Original_Intent, bluegrass (#10)

..... are minimizing the problem, repeating the government propaganda, and otherwise ignoring it.

Actually, I brought forward a chronological list of similar disasters MAXIMIZING your awareness of the problem.

It is because of PEAK OIL and the modern technological problems attempting to mine and distribute the energy that America and much of the world is dependent on.

Since you are braindead to PEAK OIL phenomena, you accuse every tom, dick and harry for the same or similar issue on a case by case basis when you "feel" you can justify your complaints. I thought the initial content of your thread was actually humourous since you side-stepped the ROOT-CAUSE of FAILURE while selectively tackling one example of the phenomena (BTW, this Gulf coast issue is NOT the WORLD's largest oil disaster, thus far).

You have to look at the BIG PICTURE to understand methods to correct, modify or otherwise change the problem. Unfortunately, you won't or you can't. In either case, you are looking more and more like a mere windbag doomed to pointing your finger at anyone but yourself.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: abraxas (#66)

2012

It's fun for no other reason than to watch California slide into the ocean. Whenever I'm having a bad day, I can run the first hour or so of the movie and it picks my spirits right up.

Or just enjoy a bowl of popcorn and watch the fun! Any way that Cali can slide into the ocean is completely fine with me.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-05-31   14:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Original_Intent (#20)

By limiting information they control what people know and are aware of and how they will react. If the general public really had a grasp of how truly truly serious this is there would be marches on Washington DEMANDING that it be handled and HANDLED NOW.

Let's keep the "general publick" informed and that is what is going on. Feel free to go to Washington and organize a rally. Get the steam off in publick instead of a chit-chat channel on the Internet as it would be good for you to get out and see the world hasn't stopped.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:32:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Samuel Gray, abraxas (#72)

Any way that Cali can slide into the ocean is completely fine with me.

Hey! Watch it buddy. LOL


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-31   14:32:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Samuel Gray (#72)

2012

My interest is perked........are there shots of Pelosi and Boxer going over the edge? : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   14:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: FormerLurker (#62)

I'm beginning to wonder if this is an act of Israel and/or the Rothchilds in order to show Obama and Congress what they can do if they don't get their way.

C'mon ..... you are pulling everyone's leg.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Artisan (#65)

speaking of 2012 ...

You believe that crap?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: abraxas (#66)

The prophecy, both Revelation and the Hopi, re: oil and this spill is eery.......

Where do you receive your knowledge that is is the end of the world AND that this oil tragedy is a direct connection, thereof? Are you GOD's mouthpiece or just another comedic scriptwriter looking for a job?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: farmfriend, Samuel Gray (#74)

Hey! Watch it buddy. LOL

He's only talking about San Fran and LA--right Sam? .......and only when Pelosi and Boxer are around. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   14:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#78)

I posted both prophecies--read them yourself. There are only nine given by the Hopi and 7 have come to pass........

The only predictions that I will make is that you're already chugging down the sterno today. : )

Bottoms up, Buckie.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   14:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Original_Intent (#67)

I know Jeff Rense floated that as a speculation the other day as well.

There it is absolute PROOF that the Rothschilds or Israeli commandos (or someone, ANYONE) sabotaged the Deepwater platform.

This is an election year in the US .... remember, the saboteur could have been the Democratic/Republican Party attempting to snag one or more chads at the voting booth this year.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: abraxas, Samuel Gray (#79)

He's only talking about San Fran and LA--right Sam? .......and only when Pelosi and Boxer are around. : )

Well I could include the rich mansions on the coast in the deal. I would love it if Barbara's house slid.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-31   14:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: abraxas (#80)

But, you interpreted recent events as though you are the RIGHT HAND of GOD, himself. How did you do it with so much clarity and divine inspiration?

I posted both prophecies--read them yourself. There are only nine given by the Hopi and 7 have come to pass........

Those damned Hopi Indians ... they made up more enumerated "end of the world" prophecies than in the Book of Revelations. Why did they do it? What could have caused this? I hear they enjoyed peyote an awful lot.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo, christine, Cynicom, farmfriend, CadetD, Rotara, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull, HOUNDDAWG, bluegrass, Kamala, Deacon Benjamin, HappyToBeMe-4um, Itistoolate, Esso, Shoonra, all (#71)

Poor Buckie - as always a day late and a brick shy.

Your list, however you try to paper it over, was a clear attempt to obscure the impact of the article. Which a "little bird" has informed me has gone viral so it is now circulating the web independent of your feeble disinfo tactics.

And again you try to divert, no this is not yet the world's largest volume of released oil, but as of today both Bee Pee and the Oh'bummer Maladministration have admitted that they have no clue how to stop it. And again the estimate of 2.9 million gallons per day from just ONE of the THREE points of eruption. The actual rate of flow, including the large hole 5 to 6 miles from the most publicized site, is not included in that estimate. One estimate I read in the London Times places the flow rate as high as 4.2 million gallons per day. At that flow rate the discharge into the gulf has already exceeded, by about 30 MILLION gallons (and it was in shallow water and still took 9 months to shut down) the previous largest gusher in the gulf, and at this time there is no known plan to stop it from continuing to flow. If the current extrapolations are correct, and they are admittedly estimates, the volume released will have exceeded 500 MILLION gallons (and again the gas flow is treble the oil flow) by August which is what the Oh'bummer Maladministration pulled out of their *** as their next expected time to try and plug it. And this is before factoring in the damage being done by the corexit oil dispersant being used promiscuously by Bee Pee to hide the scale of the oil eruption. Corexit is rated as 4 times more toxic than the oil and has a vaporization point low enough to be picked up and carried inland by rain clouds.

You can try to minimize and divert from the likely affects of this man made cataclysm, but I won't let you get away with it.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   14:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: abraxas, buggeroo, buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, farmfriend, all (#80)

Bottoms up, Buckie.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   15:03:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: buckeroo (#83)

But, you interpreted recent events as though you are the RIGHT HAND of GOD, himself

Yeah, that's the ticket....to the sane I merely posted a couple of prophecies that I DIDN'T write or claim to have written, but somehow this is misconstrued by the buckeroo as the RIGHT HAND OF GOD.

Is there a direct correlation between the amount of sterno pumping in your veins and the level of drama you spew? Why, yes, I think this could easily be proven.

Yep, for the Hopi the peyote........for Buckeroo the sterno. Either way, an increase in dramatics is duly noted.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   15:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: abraxas (#79)

Well, yeah, the whole place sinks into the ocean, probably all the way up to the Rockies. Yellowstone let go, Vegas sank into a Dantean hell in the desert, but the California destruction scenes were primarily of LA and Hollywood biting the big one.

The big earthquake came as the Governator said "ve sink ze vorst is ofa"

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-05-31   15:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: abraxas (#86)

God knows I've done my part to try and get him interested in tracking down yuktard, Mad Dog, etc, and wreaking a little creative mayhem (just for fun...of course), but he's sticking with the diatribes.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-05-31   15:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Samuel Gray (#88)

God knows

Be careful, Sam, I think you may be construed as the LEFT HAND OF GOD. lol

I've enjoyed that creative mayhem myself. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   15:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: abraxas (#89)

LEFT HAND OF GOD

He's gotta have someone to do his righteous dirty work, may as well be me, eh?

And that particular pair are a blight on the internet and their online voices should be silenced for the good of all.

See? I've already ennobled my cause by invoking god and the common good.

Besides, your choices are sinister (left) and rectus (right), and the latter sounds like yukie and MD...also sounds like 'rectum', or asshole, which fits them to a (*)

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-05-31   15:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Original_Intent (#84)

Your list, however you try to paper it over, was a clear attempt to obscure the impact of the article.

Whoops that was no "article" it was a biased, opinion puffpiece based on obscure sources designed to TROLL ....

And again you try to divert, no this is not yet the world's largest volume of released oil...

Wrong. It happened during the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait by the Iraqis as they left Kuwait in retreat (1991). You just don't remember the issue (perhaps you were out gardening?) The next largest tragic event happened in the Gulf of Mexico (only 150 feet of drilling) in 1980 called the Ixtoc platform. That was before the WWW so we could not read about your puff pieces, as well.

You can try to minimize and divert from the likely affects of this man made cataclysm, but I won't let you get away with it.

If anyone on 4um has consistently and intelligently discussed, man made issues are rampant everywhere leading to modern messes ... it has been myself. You have always chosen he flip-side of the discussion attempting to suggest some form of silly cause by some made-up sinister, backroom conspiracy either in government, outer-space or some other group of men with far-out capabilities.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   15:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: buckeroo, ORiginal_Intent, abraxas, Lod (#91)

The next largest tragic event happened in the Gulf of Mexico (only 150 feet of drilling) in 1980 called the Ixtoc platform.

Here is an current NPR write uP.

One Gulf Oil Spill Went For Nearly A Year

(Blogger's note: This post was changed from from an earlier version to correct a factual error in the size and rank of the Exxon Valdez oil spill. Also, the IXTOC 1 accident occurred June 3, 1979, not 1980.)

By Frank James

If it winds up taking months, the better part of a year or longer for experts to finally stop the flow of oil into the Gulf of Mexico from the uncontrolled well head left by the destroyed Deepwater Horizon, there's precedent for that.

It was an oil platform called IXTOC 1 which was in the Gulf of Mexico about 600 miles south of Texas in the Bay of Campeche. The accident occurred June 3, 1979 when a two-mile exploratory well blew out. What happened next sounds similar to what happened on the Deepwater Horizon.

The IXTOC 1 accident is considered the world's second worst oil spill with 140 million gallons of oil released into the waters. The worst was the oil spill into the Persian Gulf as a result of the 1991 Gulf War against Saddam Hussein's Iraq when Iraqi troops opened the Kuwaiti oil field valves which allowed as much as an estimated 520 million gallons of crude to flow into the Gulf.

The sinking of the Exxon Valdez in Alaska's Prince William Sound spilled an estimated 10.8 million gallons, making it the worst spill in U.S. history.

From a description on a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration website:

The oil and gas blowing out of the well ignited, causing the platform to catch fire. The burning platform collapsed into the wellhead area hindering any immediate attempts to control the blowout. PEMEX hired blowout control experts and other spill control experts including Red Adair, Martech International of Houston, and the Mexican diving company, Daivaz. The Martech response included 50 personnel on site, the remotely operated vehicle TREC, and the submersible Pioneer I. The TREC attempted to find a safe approach to the Blowout Preventer (BOP). The approach was complicated by poor visibility and debris on the seafloor including derrick wreckage and 3000 meters of drilling pipe. Divers were eventually able to reach and activate the BOP, but the pressure of the oil and gas caused the valves to begin rupturing. The BOP was reopened to prevent destroying it. Two relief wells were drilled to relieve pressure from the well to allow response personnel to cap it. Norwegian experts were contracted to bring in skimming equipment and containment booms, and to begin cleanup of the spilled oil. The IXTOC I well continued to spill oil at a rate of 10,000 - 30,000 barrels per day until it was finally capped on March 23, 1980. Keyword: Boom, Corexit 9527, skimmer, manual removal, volunteers, blowout, fire, evaporation, blowout preventer, relief well, submersible..

Some key points to take away from this: It took nearly 10 months for the responders to stop the oil from flowing in the IXTOC 1 accident. And this was a well that was in only about 164 feet of water. That allowed divers to be sent down to cap the well.

The Deepwater Horizon wellhead is under 5000 feet of water. That is nearly double the depth at which atmospheric diving suits and manned submersibles can operate.

Technology has obviously advanced immensely during the past 30 years. Still, the story of the IXTOC 1 is sobering considering how far under the gulf this well is and the difficulty that are being encountered by the crews operating in what can be a very hostile environment. And hurricane season is only weeks away.

The Associated Press had a report on the comparisons being made between the IXTOC 1 spill and the current accident and why the Deepwater Horizon spill has so many experts worried.

An excerpt:

Most Americans think of Exxon Valdez when it comes to spills. But the potential and likelihood here "is well beyond that," said University of Rhode Island ocean engineering professor Malcolm Spaulding. Because the Deepwater Horizon well has not been capped and may flow for months more, it should be compared to a bigger more dangerous one from a well explosion in 1979, said Tunnell. That was Ixtoc 1, off the coast of Mexico. It was the worst peacetime oil spill on record.

The current spill "is kind of a worst case scenario," Tunnell said.

What makes this spill relentless and most similar to Ixtoc 1 is that it's an active well that keeps flowing. The Exxon Valdez was a tanker with a limited supply of oil. The rig 40 miles from the Gulf Coast may leak for months before a relief well can be drilled to stop the flow, Kinner said.

And LSU's Overton said: "I'm not very optimistic that they'll be drilling a relief well in three months."

The type of oil involved is also a major problem. While most of the oil drilled off Louisiana is a lighter crude, this isn't. It's a heavier blend because it comes from deep under the ocean surface, Overton said.

"If I had to pick a bad oil, I'd put this right up there. The only thing that's not bad about this is that it doesn't have a lot of sulfur in it and the high sulfur really smells bad."


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-31   15:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: abraxas (#86)

Yep, for the Hopi the peyote........for Buckeroo the sterno. Either way, an increase in dramatics is duly noted.

LOL!!!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-31   15:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Original_Intent (#0)

We're certainly heading into, if we're indeed not in already, the days which the Word of God describes very vividly as being very bad...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-05-31   15:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: farmfriend (#92)

I am drawing parallels in history towards OI's puffpiece. He seem s to think that this is the first and only time in mankind's recent history wherein a disaster of HUGE proportions has happened.

You know that old expression, don't you? Rhetorically, Those who forget the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them.

And some of the folks on 4um (like OI) doesn't believe PEAK OIL phenomena. Yet, when asked time and again, he doesn't respond with reasons for these modern adventurous, applied technologies other than it is some sort of conspiracy.

He doesn't know how to parse through the details and stitch the SERIOUS problems together. Such ashame... he really has capability but is lost in mania of a Sherlock Holmes novel about "whodunnit" never realizing he is part of the problem AND never providing a solution.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   15:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: farmfriend (#92)

What makes this spill relentless and most similar to Ixtoc 1 is that it's an active well that keeps flowing. The Exxon Valdez was a tanker with a limited supply of oil. The rig 40 miles from the Gulf Coast may leak for months before a relief well can be drilled to stop the flow, Kinner said.

Key Differences:

1. Ixtoc was at 160 feet not 5,000 and the flow rate was less than 1/3.

2. It was diver accessible.

3. The pressure at the wellhead was probably less. How much more pressure this one has is indeterminate, but we can observe from the videos that at 5000 feet depth, and much much greater water pressure from the column of water, that it is still spurting out in a high pressure eruption.

4. There was only 1 hole not 3.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   16:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Original_Intent, christine, earthchild, SonofLiberty, abraxas, TwentyTwelve, Dakmar, James Deffenbach, gengis gandhi, Arator, Horse, randge, wudidiz, ada, scrapper2, farmfriend, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, all (#84) (Edited)

And this is before factoring in the damage being done by the corexit oil dispersant being used promiscuously by Bee Pee to hide the scale of the oil eruption. Corexit is rated as 4 times more toxic than the oil and has a vaporization point low enough to be picked up and carried inland by rain clouds.

O_I, I know that you are taking the high road approach with all of these ego-surfer trolls and useless yappers, but feeding the chirping baby birds when they are already full of s#!+ only causes more vomiting! 8=>

It is important to emphasize that it is not simply about the number of gallons gushing in comparison to other "spills" around the world.

It is the fact that the ongoing oil volcano(es) and the wanton Corexit dumping-for-profit is happening in one of the richest and most bio-diverse ecosystems on the planet, with impact upon a dense population (compared to Alaska, for example), all under the control of a multi-national corporation, enabled by Obeyme intervening and in effect waiving regulatory requirements by quashing the legal challenge, allowing BP to exercise their lease!

If I lease a prime piece of property, then set it on fire, do I have the authority to keep the fire department from taking over the authority for putting out the fire I started? ?????

What is truly alarming (for those awake) is how this nightmare reveals a dark design in its slow-motion insanity, that as bad as the ecological disaster is, there is an even more disastrous oligarchic hegemony at work, brazen tyranny at work in broad daylight, smugly confident in being completely unaccountable for their ongoing rape!

There is nothing hidden, which shall not be openly seen; nor anything secret, which shall not be known and come into the light of day - Mark 4:22/Luke 8:17

Even for those of us who understand that all darkness must be illuminated to be known and dispersed, it is still nauseating to see the walking corpse face to face....

Meanwhile, the MSM spin control wobbles back and forth:

On the one hand, pretending to be concerned about the "issue", BUT presenting any scientists and knowledgeable people providing rational information (the true possible impact) only as fringe reports, truly dire consequences being "out-of-the-herd-of-possibility" unless they can be taken advantage of to enable even more federal control and further dismantle the rule of law in our reeling republic!

On the other hand, soothing the massMind with the mantra of: "nothing to see here, Obama is on top of it, business as usual, go back to your Walmart shopping".

How fortunate for the would-be world-controllers that Israhell just killed some brave civilians to take our minds off this false flag eco-sabotage, before the MSM spin becomes too obvious and annoying enough to irritate the people into awareness....

No worries, the latest outrage from Izzy will be neatly scripted into the 62-year ongoing narrative of lies upon which the modern, bankster-run interlocking prison depends. The mass Mind is fully conditioned in this story and should go back to sleep on cue...


Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when the FEAR card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ruins of the totalitarian game!

HighLairEon  posted on  2010-05-31   16:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Rotara, farmfriend, abraxas, all (#94)

We're certainly heading into, if we're indeed not in already, the days which the Word of God describes very vividly as being very bad...

Ditto Hopi, Zuni, Aztec, Maya, and Sioux Prophecy - not to mention Nicolai Nostradamus.

I think the key word is "IN" and I think we entered into it early this year. The next few years are going to be verrrrrrrry rough. We will emerge on the other side but the world is going to become a very changed place in just a few years time.

I am guessing it will not begin to abate before 2014 and we will not really be coming out of it before 2015.

May the good Lord bless you and keep you, and everyone else on 4um.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   16:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: HighLairEon (#97)

If I lease a prime piece of property, then set it on fire, do I have the authority to keep the fire department from taking over the authority for putting out the fire I started? ?????

Only if your name is Rothschild.

What is truly alarming (for those awake) is how this nightmare reveals a dark design in its slow-motion insanity, that as bad as the ecological disaster is, there is an even more disastrous oligarchic hegemony at work, brazen tyranny at work in broad daylight, smugly confident in being completely unaccountable for their ongoing rape!

I think their psychoses and fear drove them too far this time. Once people really begin to grasp the true and likely impact of this event they will begin getting scared. In the meantime I intend to plant as many truth bombs as I can so that they will be able to recognize the authors of this catastrophe. The piece heading this thread I am proud to report, per a PM from someone connected, has gone viral. That's a start.

The only reason I ever pay any attention to trolls is simply to negate their attempts at spinning away from and/or confusing the truth. By eviscerating the spin it lessens its affects. If there is nothing to be gained I just ignore them and spit in the gutter.

Meanwhile, the MSM spin control wobbles back and forth:

On the one hand, pretending to be concerned about the "issue", BUT presenting any scientists and knowledgeable people providing rational information (the true possible impact) only as fringe reports, truly dire consequences being "out-of-the-herd-of-possibility" unless they can be taken advantage of to enable even more federal control and further dismantle the rule of law in our reeling republic!

The usual PsyOp tactic - a variation on damning with faint praise combined with a Strawman. Present the truth as unconvincingly as possible and then bring in an "expert" to dismantle the strawman. They do it all the time and the general public having no schooling in logic and rhetoric lap it right up without a filter or Bullshit Alarm going off.

On the other hand, soothing the massMind with the mantra of: "nothing to see here, Obama is on top of it, business as usual, go back to your Walmart shopping".

Exactly. "All is well. All is well. Go back to Fuutboll Big Brother is watching over you." Of course "Big Brother" is a Bloodsucking Demon, but I digress.

Good thing Israhell killed some brave civilians to take our minds off this false flag eco-sabotage, before the MSM spin becomes too obvious and annoying!

Convenient how that occurred isn't it? I bet Bibi had a fit when he was given that order. However, to the Rothschilds and their ilk, Israel is just a pawn to be used and sacrificed as needed. Note that the Rothschilds still live in London.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   16:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: HighLairEon, Original_Intent (#97) (Edited)

darn it...my computer got too hot and i lost everything on it...am trying to get caught up.

has anyone seen this: MICROBES TO THE RESCUE

Gulf Oil Spill-Gutsy Solution Restores Environment in Just Six Weeks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...1tI&feature=youtube_gdata

first saw it here: http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2...6-weeks-get-word-out.html

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edit.

bible.cc/isaiah/54-17.htm / bible.cc/galatians/3-29.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-05-31   17:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Original_Intent (#100)

darn it...my computer got too hot and i lost everything on it...am trying to get caught up.

has anyone seen this: MICROBES TO THE RESCUE

Gulf Oil Spill-Gutsy Solution Restores Environment in Just Six Weeks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...1tI&feature=youtube_gdata

first saw it here: http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2...6-weeks-get-word-out.html

Good video on bio-remediation. Note the date mentioned in the video that this was tested and known: 1989!

The only problem is, it has become abundantly clear that cleaning up the oil and mitigating the environmental crisis is not the real goal of those in control; instead it is disaster for fun, profit and increased draconian powers for the elites in control of the federal bureaucracies (not to mention population-culling for ease of control).

This crisis is not a human technology problem, it is a political crisis, a conflict between top-down control versus freedom. It is not the result of a lack of human know-how but a lack of awareness and courage, a result of the failure of the will and spirit to be free.

It is now in our faces; time to wake up and smell the corruption...


Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when the FEAR card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ruins of the totalitarian game!

HighLairEon  posted on  2010-05-31   18:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: HighLairEon, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#101)

Nicely summarized. Anything I could add would simply detract from it's pungent brevity.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   18:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: HighLairEon (#101)

This crisis is not a human technology problem, it is a political crisis, a conflict between top-down control versus freedom. It is not the result of a lack of human know-how but a lack of awareness and courage, a result of the failure of the will and spirit to be free.

Meanwhile about 40+ years have elapse since these same or similar tragedies have occurred and its political? And it has occurred around the world under most energy coming nations watch?

Whoops! Sounds like a cog is stuck in your attention span.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   19:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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