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Title: Oilpocalypse Now Take I
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Published: May 30, 2010
Author: Me
Post Date: 2010-05-30 15:46:52 by Original_Intent
Keywords: Phytoplankton, Oil, methane, ocean
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This is really the bottom line. We have an event in the Gulf which has now stretched on for more than 5 weeks which is emptying toxins into the ocean and the atmosphere at a cataclysmic rate. In looking at the problem I am trying to anticipate its likely effects and consequences.

Looking at the Gulf Oil catastrophe how does that affect the planetary system? Our oceans have been called the cradle of life and much of life on earth remains dependent on those oceans. If you disrupt the ocean system you disrupt, indirectly, life everywhere. The gushers have not yet been stoppered and there is currently no realistic prospect that they will be anytime soon.

Obama is obviously bought and paid for and the Feral Government's incompetent and even obeisant response to BP's actions and inactions is clearly obvious to anyone who cares to look honestly.

The environmental damage is at this point hard to calculate. Most people seem to be thinking too small - just in terms of its affect on the Gulf. This is not going to be contained to the Gulf. Yes, the Gulf is going to become a massive "Dead Zone" but as the oil spreads out on the Gulf stream it is going to begin to have an impact on larger and larger areas.

As is frequently the case people are reluctant, and even blind, to looking at a very large problem on the correct scale. The volume of oil and gas coming out of those holes is beyond the normal scale of human catastrophes. If not contained relatively soon this is potentially an Extinction Level Event. The one unknown variable is the volume of oil in the pool that has been ruptured. Based on the evidence and speculations I have read it is most likely to be measured in the TRILLIONS of gallons.

The best expert estimates I have seen are that minimally we have 2.9 MILLION GALLONS of Oil escaping into the Gulf each day. The volume of methane is about treble that. BP, in an effort to camouflage its true scale is pumping hundreds of thousands of gallons of even more toxic oil dispersant into the volcano. To get an idea of the scale think of the largest stadium you know, fill it with oil every day, dump it on the surrounding landscape, and then refill it TWICE each day. Then you begin to get an approximation of the volume of oil escaping.

Most people are aware of the toxic nature of petroleum, but are not used to thinking in terms of gases. Methane, in the ocean, replaces oxygen and carbon dioxide in the water. Fish and Mammals require oxygen and the plant life requires carbon dioxide for normal metabolism. Remove that by replacing it with a toxic gas, and methane is a poison, and you have a result that is a toxic cloud unseen creeping through the Gulf killing both plant and animal life. And it is growing at a catastrophic rate each day.

Most people are aware of the Amazon Rain Forest and what that plant life means to the production of breathable Oxygen. However, most people are unaware that the oceans produce 50 to 70 percent of the available free oxygen. This is done by ocean plant life mostly in the form of what is known as Phytoplankton. Phytoplankton are small, often single cell, micro plants that form the base of the ocean food chain. Phytoplankton takes dissolved carbon dioxide and minerals from the sea water, and with the input of energy in the form of sunlight, through photosynthesis they create cellular matter which is then consumed by the next higher level of the food chain and on and on with the larger consuming the smaller until you reach the top of the food chain.

So, why the lecture on the ocean ecosystem? Because the Gulf produces as much or more oxygen than the entire Amazon Rain Forest. Let that sink in for a moment. Try to wrap your mind around that scale, and then realize that the Gulf is only part of the picture - more on that in a moment. As the cloud of death in the form of toxic petroleum and methane permeates the gulf things are going to begin to die. And the cloud of petroleum also reduces the amount of sunlight reaching the phytoplankton thus inhibiting photosynthesis. So, even before it dies from the toxins in the water its metabolism is going to be slowed by the unnatural shade and its consumption of carbon dioxide and output of free oxygen will be inhibited.

Under the surface the heavier oil is suspended as a large black cloud. Oceanographers have already noticed it in photos and in sampling from 2,000 feet down. As this heavier oil reaches coastal inclines it will be forced upward into shallower waters and befouling everything in its path. This cloud is so heavy that no life whatsoever can exist within it - saving perhaps a few bacteria.

Now think on a larger scale. The Gulf is not an isolated pond of water - it is part of the larger ocean that is simply a back pool but is connected to the larger ocean by the inwelling and outwelling of currents and tides. So, what happens in the Gulf will eventually spread into the larger open ocean - with the same effects.

As the growing cloud of petroleum and methane begins to move into the Atlantic, in addition to fouling beaches and killing wildlife, it will be a cloud of death to ocean life large and small. The last major event in the Gulf went unplugged for about 9 months, but it was about one third or less the size of this oil volcano. At the current minimum rate of flow the amount of petroleum that will have entered Gulf waters will, in just one year, exceed one BILLION gallons. Again pause to take that in as I know that these numbers are so large that most people are going to have difficulty with the scale. And the volume of methane will be treble that. And this is just based on the estimated flow rate which could be even greater than what we currently know. The government and BP are fighting furiously to keep the real numbers from the public.

At that rate the entire Gulf will become a Dead Zone in about a year. All the while the cloud creeps out into surrounding waters moving up and down coast lines killing virtually everything in its path.

Extrapolating outward the cloud begins to affect coastal fisheries and marine life of all kinds up and down the shorelines of two continents, and still it spreads. Since many third world communities rely upon fisheries for food and subsistence disease and death will follow in its wake. This is of course the “worst case scenario”, but at this point in time the actions taken to staunch the ruptured seabed from leaking devastating amounts of toxins into are incompetent and ineffective.

Carried out to its cataclysmic extreme, with no effective action to stop the flow of oil and gas, the potential exists to inhibit the greater ocean’s carbon dioxide absorbtion, and oxygen production, to the point that the atmosphere of the planet itself tips over into toxic.

May God Have Mercy on Our Souls.

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May God Have Mercy on Our Souls.

The PEAK OIL crisis occurred about 1970. As a result of further mining activity to ensure the satisfaction of American "like" lifestyles, here is a chronology....

1967

March 18 - UNITED KINGDOM - The Torrey Canyon ran aground off Cornwall spilling 80,000 tonnes (919,000 barrels) of crude.

1970

March 20 - SWEDEN - At least 438,000 barrels of oil spilled in a collision involving the Othello in Tralhavet Bay.

1972

December 19 - OMAN - After a collision with Brazilian tanker Horta Barbosa the South Korean tanker Sea Star spilled about 840,000 barrels of crude into the Gulf of Oman.

1976

December 15 - USA - The Argo Merchant ran aground off Nantucket spilling 183,000 barrels of oil and causing a slick 160 km (100 miles) long and 97 km wide.

1977

February 25 - PACIFIC - The Liberian-registered Hawaiian Patriot caught fire in the Northern Pacific spilling 723,000 barrels.

1978

March 16 - FRANCE - About 1.6 million barrels of crude spilled after the Amoco Cadiz ran aground near Portsall in France's worst ever tanker accident. The resulting slick eventually covered 125 miles of Breton coast.

1979

June 3 - MEXICO - An estimated 140 million gallons of oil spilled from an exploratory well in the Gulf of Mexico, 80 km NW of Ciudad del Carmen, Campeche.

July 19 - TRINIDAD & TOBAGO - About 2.2 million barrels of crude spilled after a collision off Tobago between the Atlantic Empress and the Aegean Captain.

1983

August 6 - SOUTH AFRICA - Fire broke out on the Spanish tanker Castillo de Bellver and 1.8 million barrels of light crude burnt off the coast at Cape Town.

1989

March 24 - USA - The Exxon Valdez hit rocks in Prince William Sound spilling some 240,000 barrels of crude oil onto Alaskan shores.

December 19 - MOROCCO - After explosions and a fire Iranian tanker Kharg-5 was abandoned spilling 70,000 tonnes of crude oil, endangering the coast and oyster beds at Oualidia.

1990

February 7 - USA - The tanker, American Trader, leaked 300,000 gallons of crude from a gash in the hull causing an oil slick 22 km long polluting Bosa Chica, one of southern California's biggest nature reserves.

1991

January 26 - KUWAIT - An estimated 240 million gallons of oil were spilled from terminals, tankers and oil wells during the final phase of the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait.

May 28 - ANGOLA/LIBERIA - A Liberian-registered supertanker, ABT Summer, leaked oil after an explosion off Angola causing an oil slick 17 nautical miles by three.

1992

March 2 - UZBEKISTAN - An estimated 88 million gallons of oil spilled from an oil well at Fergana Valley.

September 19 - INDONESIA - Liberian-registered tanker Nagasaki Spirit collided with container Ocean Blessing in the Malacca Straits spilling some 12,000 tonnes of crude.

December 3 - SPAIN - Greek tanker Aegean Sea ran aground and broke in two near La Coruna spilling most of its 80,000 tons cargo of oil. 1993

January 5 -- UNITED KINGDOM - Oil poured on to the coast of northern Scotland's Shetland Islands after the 89,000-ton Liberian-registered Braer hit rocks in heavy seas. The tanker carried 84,500 tons of crude oil. A huge oil slick stretched 25 miles (40 km) up the coast.

January 21 -- SINGAPORE / INDONESIA / MALAYSIA - The 255,312-ton Singapore-registered tanker Maersk Navigator collided with the empty tanker Sanko Honour in the Andaman Sea en route from Oman to Japan. It was carrying a cargo of nearly 2 million barrels of oil. Its ruptured port side leaked burning oil and spread a slick up to 35 miles (56 km) long off Sumatra drifting towards India's Nicobar Islands.

February 11 -- NETHERLANDS - Up to 30,000 seabirds were feared killed by a paraffin oil slick thought to have been discharged by a passing ship during the past two weeks. It was the worst oil spill off the Dutch coast in five years.

March 9 -- GERMANY/POLAND - The wreck of the Jan Heweliusz, a Polish ferry which sank in the Baltic off Germany on January 14, began leaking oil. The ship was estimated to have up to 80 tons of fuel on board.

June 3 -- BELGIUM / UNITED KINGDOM - Seven crewmen from a British tanker, the British Trent, burned to death in a blazing sea of petrol about 15 miles (24km) off Ostend after a collision with a Panamanian bulk carrier in thick fog. Two other crewmen were missing and presumed dead. Belgian environmental officials and the ship's owner, British Petroleum, played down pollution dangers. The tanker was loaded with 24,000 tons of petrol, which poured out of a hole in the port bow.

August 19 -- FRANCE - An oil slick off the French Riviera after a collision between a nuclear submarine and a supertanker was brought under control with no danger to beaches. The collision on August 17 caused two spills, one off Fos-sur-Mer and one farther out.

October 15 -- GREECE - Oil leaked from the Greek tanker Iliad killed wildlife and destroyed fish farms in the bay of Pylos. A three-mile-long (4.8 km) oil slick was caused when the tanker ran aground off the island of Spaktiria on October 9.

1994

January 7 -- PUERTO RICO - The Morris J. Furhman, a barge carrying about 1.5 million gallons of fuel oil, went aground off the northern side of the capital city harbor. 750,000 gallons of heavy fuel oil had been spilled and had spread to cover a six-mile (9.6 km) stretch of shore. Conado Beach, the Conado lagoon and San Juan Bay were all polluted.

March 6 -- THAILAND - About 105,670 gallons of diesel fuel spilled into the sea some four miles (6.4 km) off the eastern Sriracha coast after a chartered oil tanker and an unidentified cargo ship collided. The tanker, the Visahakit 5, was carrying about 1.06 million gallons of diesel and liquefied petroleum gas.

March 16 -- TURKEY - A cleanup effort was begun to scoop patches of crude from the Bosphorus waterway and remove oil washed onto shore after a fiery collision on March 13 between the tanker Nassia and the freighter Shipbroker, both Cypriot-flagged. The accident, the worst in the Bosphorus in 15 years, killed 29 crewmen.

March 31 -- UNITED ARAB EMIRATES - 15,900 tons of crude oil leaked into the Arabian Sea after the Panamanian-flagged supertanker Seki spilled the crude 10 miles (16 km) off the UAE port of Fujairah, just outside the Gulf, when it collided with the UAE tanker Baynunah, which was in ballast. Oil reached the UAE coast north of Khor Fakkan close to the Strait of Hormuz. The oil slick severely polluted several beaches and threatened more than 25 miles (40 km) of coastline.

May 8 -- VIETNAM - The 1,220-ton Vietnamese Chanoco I, carrying 1,012 tons of fuel oil, and a 10,000-ton Taiwanese ship Unihumanity collided in the Long Tau river near Ho Chi Minh City. About 200 tons spilled into the river from the Vietnamese ship causing a 200-ton oil slick, which killed fish and other wildlife.

June 14 -- INDIA - Indian authorities began siphoning off 700 tons of oil from the Sea Transporter, a 6,000-ton Greek cargo ship which had been anchored off Aguada after it ran aground following a cyclone on June 5.

June 23 -- SOUTH AFRICA - An oil slick washing ashore on Dassen Island threatened a colony of endangered Jackass penguins and polluted mainland beaches. It was confirmed on June 28 that the Apollo Sea, a Chinese bulk carrier that was believed to have sunk on June 20 shortly after leaving Saldanha Bay, was the source of Cape Town's worst oil pollution disaster.

August 11 -- UNITED STATES - The Columbus Iselin, a ship conducting oil spill research, ran aground in the Looe Key National Marine Sanctuary off the Florida Keys and was leaking fuel.

October 2 -- PORTUGAL - A Panamanian registered tanker, Cercal, spilled about 2,000 tons of crude into the sea after striking a rock on its way into Leixoes harbor, in the northern city of Oporto. The oil badly polluted one beach near the entrance to Leixoes port and smaller quantities of oil came ashore on other parts of the coast near Oporto.

October 17 -- CHINA - 1,000 meters of beaches and reefs at Dongshan, a resort area at Qinhuangdao in Hebei province were polluted by an oil spill blamed on the Huahai Number Two tanker, owned by the state-run Huahai Company of Beijing.

1995

June 5 -- SINGAPORE - About 100 tons of fuel oil leaked from a bunker fuel barge after it collided with the freighter Sun Pulse. The fuel oil had begun washing up on the island's east coast.

July 11 -- AUSTRALIA - An ore carrier, the Iron Baron, ran aground on a reef in southern Australian waters, spilling more than 500 tons of fuel oil and causing a major pollution scare for the island state of Tasmania. Thousands of fairy penguins were fouled with oil.

July 25 -- SOUTH KOREA - Oil leaking from the 275,782 deadweight ton Sea Prince, a burning tanker off South Korea, formed a slick 20 miles (32 km) in diameter. The ship was loaded with 83,000 tons of crude oil. It was drifting toward the country's best known sea resort. 700 tons of fuel oil estimated to have been leaked.

1996

February 15 -- UNITED KINGDOM - The coast guard called a full environmental alert when the 147,000 deadweight ton Liberian-registered Sea Empress with a crew of 28 Russians hit rocks near the port of Milford Haven, Wales. The tanker, operated by Acomarit, had been carrying 130,000 tons of light crude oil. On February 20 an estimated 40,000 tons of crude oil spilled -- a third of its cargo -- creating a four-mile (six km) oil slick.

March 19 -- UNITED STATES - A barge operated by Buffalo Marine Services Inc. and loaded with about 210,000 gallons of fuel oil ruptured as it sailed through the Houston Ship Channel. About 4,200 gallons of oil spilled into Galveston Bay, causing a five-mile-long (eight km) oil slick.

1997

January 7 -- JAPAN - Coastal fishing villages in northwestern Japan braced for economic and environmental catastrophe as oil slicks from sunken Russian tanker Nakhodka coated beaches and threatened prized shellfish beds. The spill from the ruptured tanker leaked 5,200 tons (36,400 barrels) of heavy fuel oil.

July 2 -- JAPAN - A supertanker struck a shallow reef in Tokyo Bay, a famed fishing ground, leaking an estimated 1500 tons of crude oil.

October 15 -- SINGAPORE - A tanker carrying 120.000 tonnes of fuel oil collides with an empty VLCC. More than 25.000 tonnes of oil leak out from the vessel, and despite huge amounts of dispersant chemicals being applied both from the air and from vessels, the beaches of several smaller islands off Singapore are covered with greasy sludge.

1998

January 12 -- NIGERIA - 40,000 barrels of oil spilled from a ruptured pipeline to one of Mobil's terminals. Even though most of the oil had either evaporated or dispersed within the 10 days that followed, some communities in the politically-volatile region complained that fish had been poisoned by the spilled oil and fishing nets destroyed. The spill is considered the largest ever in Nigeria.

1999

December 12 - FRANCE - The Maltese-registered tanker Erika breaks up in stormy seas, and an estimated 15,000 tonnes of oil are drifting towards France's Atlantic shore. The slick is expected to hit the tiny Nourmoutier and Ile d'Yeu islands on Christmas Day, with disastrous consequences for fishing and tourism. Strong winds and currents and the heavy texture of the oil, have hampered an international flotilla battling to mop up the fast-spreading slick. Gales have since smeared the black slime over hundreds of miles of coast, covering beaches and picturesque wild coastline in sticky oil and threatening fisheries and beds of oysters, mussels and other shellfish.

December 27 - TURKEY - A Maltese-registered tanker carrying 45,753 tons of oil ran aground at the mouth of the Bosporus strait across Istanbul, the largest city in Turkey, the Turkish Daily News reported. Murat Zafer Cetintas, head of the Organization of Eco-Warriors and the Environment, was quoted as saying that if necessary precautions are not taken, the city will face serious problems.

December 27 - ANGOLA - An offshore oil spill is approaching the Angolan coast, posing a threat to the fishing industry. Radio Ecclesia said the spill, which occurred in the Atlantic Ocean oil fields off Cabinda province, was advancing towards the coast.

2000

January 4 - TURKEY - Fuel oil blackened kilometers of Istanbul's coast along the Bosporus after a Russian-registered tanker split apart in the strait that cuts through Istanbul. About 900 tons of fuel oil had spilled before it stopped pouring out of the Volganeft 248, and oil could be seen along five kilometers of the coast. Turkey is trying to reduce oil tanker traffic in the strait, through which about 440 million barrels of oil are transported each year. Some 200 accidents over the last decade in the strait have caused oil spills and fires that sometimes shut down the strait.

January 18 - BRASIL - At least 130,000 gallons of crude oil spewed out of a broken pipeline, polluting beaches and endangering plant and animal life in what authorities called the worst ecological disaster to hit Rio de Janeiro state in a decade. The oil covered at least three miles of coastline, affecting at least two beaches and a mangrove swamp rich in animal and plant species.

January 24 - UNITED ARAB EMIRATES - The Honduran-flagged cargo vessel Al Jazya 1 sank 4 miles east of Abu Dhabi's coast, laden with 980 tons of fuel oil. The tanker sank in bad weather, leaving an oil spill of around 2000 feet by 400 feet. The Federal Environmental Agency said it is still too early to assess the extent of damage caused by the slick on marine life and birds.

February 2 - BOLIVIA - A flash flood broke a crude oil pipeline, spilling hundreds of barrels of oil into the Desaguadero River that flows into Lake Poopo, the government reported. The pipeline is operated by Transredes, which sent several experts to help contain the oil and assess the damage it is causing to a river inhabited by pink flamingoes and other birds. The oil spill had reached Aymara Indian communities located dozens of miles downriver, and is expected to reach Lake Poopo shortly.

February 2 - PHILIPPINES - After running aground on January 24th on the coast of Sual town in Lingayen Gulf, the Singapore-owned vessel MV Nol Schedar was suspected to have left behind an oil slick after she was floated on February 2nd. The spill was later said to have destroyed 2,700 metres of coral reefs and other marine resources, and the case is pending in court.

February 7 - BRAZIL - Brazilian authorities scrambled to avert an environmental disaster in the Amazon jungle, after a barge holding nearly 500,000 gallons (1.8 million liters) of oil sunk to the bottom of the world's largest river network. "Environmental advisers are working alongside diving teams to prevent ecological damage," said Mauricio Andres Ribeiro at Brazil's environment ministry.

April 1 - INDONESIA - About 160.000 kilolitres of crude oil leaked out from the tanker "King Fisher", after it hit a reef while approaching the Pertamina port in Cilacapan, at the Southern coast of Central Java. One thousand people are involved in cleaning up more than 25 km of shoreline, including popular tourist areas.

April 7 - UNITED STATES - Some 111,000 gallons of oil spilled near Pepco's Chalk Point Generating Station, affecting shorelines of the Patuxent River in southern Maryland. Some 6 1/2 miles of oil containment booms were positioned in the river and at the entrance to several creeks, and an estimated 80,000 gallons of spilled oil were recovered in 24-hour-a-day operations since the leak occurred.

June 23 - SOUTH AFRICA - Environmentalists were scrambling to rescue thousands of jackass penguins from an oil spill off Cape Town, just six years after the population was devastated by a similar disaster. The oil spill began when the bulk carrier Treasure carrying some 1,400 tonnes of oil sank off the coast of Cape Town. The spill is washing straight into Robben Island, home to about 5,700 pairs of jackass penguins.

July 6th - UNITED STATES - 14.000 gallons of oil has spilled from a collision between a barge and a tug that was towing it, off Middletown, Rhode Island. A ban on fishing is in effect in one of the most fertile areas of Narragansett Bay, and it's only been four years since the worst oil spill in Rhode Island history, when 828-thousand gallons spilled, killing more than ten (m) million lobsters and prompting a ban on fishing for five months.

July 16th - BRAZIL - The country is suffering one of its worst oil spills ever, as more than 1 million gallons of crude has leaked from a refinery into a river near the southern city of Curitiba. State-run oil company Petrobras said a pipe broke, spewing oil for up to two hours into the Barigui River, a tributary of the Iguacu River, 390 miles upstream from Iguacu Falls, a major tourist attraction. Television images showed a completely blackened river winding through the countryside.

July 25th - BRAZIL - A large oil slick again spread over Rio's postcard-famous Guanabara Bay on Tuesday, the third oil spill there this year. The slick was broken up in patches across an area of more than 20 square miles, environmentalists said. It washed up on beaches within the bay, and stretched out into the open sea.

August 1 - CANADA - Residents of the town of Chetwynd were told to conserve water , as officials surveyed the damage from a massive oil spill into a pristine river in northern British Columbia. Chetwynd stopped pumping water from the Pine River as the first traces of the estimated 264,600 gallons (one million liters ) of crude oil spilled in a pipeline break on Tuesday reached the community of about 3,000 people. The heavy oil had also begun killing some of the river's fish, which are a key food supply for eagles and other wildlife in the region.

August 8 - UNITED STATES - U.S. Coast Guard investigators boarded ships in Miami and Port Everglades, trying to determine which crew dumped oil off the South Florida coast, creating the area's worst oil spill in at least a decade. The oil contaminated 15 miles of beach, and all beaches along the 15-mile stretch were closed when the oil was discovered. Some endangered and threatened sea turtles are about to hatch, and oily debris block their path to the ocean.

September 2 - MALAYSIA - A major cleanup is underway following an oil spill from a sunken Chinese cargo ship at Tanjung Po anchorage point at the Sarawak River mouth. The ill-fated 5,000 ton Kingston registered vessel Double Brave was loaded with about 116 tons of diesel oil when it sank after a collision with a barge being towed by a tugboat. About 60 workers from the Marine Department, Department of Environment, and the Kuching Port Authority had been helping in the clean-up operation.

September 4 - GREECE - Greek authorities raced against time to prevent an environmental disaster, following a fuel oil spill from a sunken cargo ship off a popular stretch of tourist beaches northeast of Athens. Miles of coastline was threatened by the spill, which came from the Cambodian-registered cement carrier Eurobulker X. The 35,264 dwt vessel broke in half a week earlier, while loading cement at Lefkandi port, central Greece. It was the second spill inside a week, following a smaller spill from a grounded freighter off the island of Kythira.

September 14 - UNITED STATES - Wind and high waves spread a 30,000-gallon oil spill across Sandy Hook Bay, thwarting efforts to contain and clean up the mess. An overnight storm upset booms that had been set out to contain the fuel, which spilled when a tugboat put a 4-foot gash in a Navy ship, the USS Detroit. Navy Cmdr. Chuck Caudill said the oil was so dispersed that Navy skimmers could not pick up measurable amounts. The spill is one of the largest ever in the bay, and the state has banned harvesting of shellfish in the area until further notice.

October 2 - SWEDEN - Swedish environmentalists are warning that an oil spill could harm seals in the Baltic Sea's Gotska Sandoen national park, as park rangers discovered an oil belt about 12 miles long. Big lumps of oil had covered about 90 percent of the beaches of Gotska Sandoen, an island about 60 miles off the southeastern coast of Sweden. The Swedish coast guard was investigating the source of the spill, and it was not known how many gallons of oil spilled.

October 4 - INDONESIA - An estimated 7.000 tons of oil has been spilled in Indonesian waters off the Batu Berhanti Beacon, after a Panama registered tanker, Natuna Sea, ran aground damaging 4 of its cargo tanks. An oil boom of 300 m length has been deployed around the tanker, but this could not prevent the oil from escaping in a South-westerly direction. Some patches of the oil have since reached Singapore, and clean-up actions have, amongst others, commenced on the beaches of Sentosa, Singapore's famous tourist resort.

November 4th - BRAZIL - Brazil's state oil giant Petrobras, criticized for a string of spills this year, suffered another leak when a tanker dumped 13,200 gallons of crude near a popular beach resort area, local media said. The accident caused a slick measuring some 492 feet, and posed a risk for the region's bustling beach resorts nearby.

November 14th - HONG KONG - Some 230 cubic metres of heavy oil leaked into the sea north of Hongkong's Lantau Island, after a small Chinese oil freighter collided with a Norwegian vessel and sank. The oil slick covering an area of 10,000 square metres, and some had reached the 12-sq-km Sha Chau marine park, a dolphin sanctuary.

November 28th - UNITED STATES - A tanker spilled half a million gallons of crude oil into the Mississippi River, closing a busy shipping route for 26 miles and threatening wildlife. No injuries were reported, but some pelicans and other animals were found covered with oil. The area is home to pelicans, shorebirds, seabirds, crabs, shrimp and sport fish, as well as more than 100,000 wintering waterfowl. The 567,000-gallon spill is the largest in U.S. waters since the Exxon Valdez in March 1989.

December 15th - NORWAY - A Norwegian freighter runs aground off the city of Haugesund, spilling some 100 tonnes of fuel oil which immediately hit the nearby coastlines. Heavy weather tempers the initial response actions, but reports say some 70 tonnes have since been recovered by means of using oil skimmers. The authorities are contemplating to have the remaining 300 tonnes of oil removed from the ship, to prevent the risk of further pollution. Meanwhile, several thousand metres of oil booms have been deployed for containment and protection.

2001

January 14 - TAIWAN - Taiwan is racing against time to avert an ecological disaster and a major setback to its tourism industry, following the island's worst oil spill. Some 1,150 tonnes of fuel oil gushed out of a Greece-registered ship carrying 60,000 tonnes of iron ore, after it ran aground off the Kenting National Park. Marine mammals in the area, such as dolphins, are highly endangered by the spill. The crisis also threatens the operation of a nearby nuclear power plant, and risks cross-strait disputes if the spillage spreads to the Chinese coast.

January 15 - NORWAY - One of the largest oil spills ever from a land based oil storage facility in Norway, was detected when at least 750 tons of sludge had leaked from Norcem's facilities at Brevik. By the afternoon, some 100 tons had been recovered within the containment area around the tank, whilst another 190 tons had been recovered from the sea. The recovery operations are continuing, under close scrutiny from the Norwegian Pollution Control Authority.

January 16 - ECUADOR - A boat carrying fuel to Ecuador's Galapagos Islands is leaking oil into the ecologically sensitive waters near the famous islands. The boat, named "Jessica", was carrying 160,000 gallons of diesel and about 80,000 gallons of IFO 120.The spill has already affected animals including sea lions and pelicans, and volunteers are on standby to clean up and rescue them.

February 16 - INDONESIA - The Coast Guard authorities are working to re-float an oil tanker that ran aground in rough seas off Indonesia's Java island. The Honduras-registered Steadfast partially sank in shallow waters, when it was battered by massive waves and winds off Tegal, some 250 km east of Jakarta. Roughly 40 per cent of an estimated 800 tonnes of sump oil had leaked from the ship and reached the shore, and a joint clean-up operation involving local vessels, Coast Guard and police authorities is underway.

March 20 - BRAZIL - Up to 316,000 gallons of diesel has leaked after the world's largest offshore platform sank five days after a failed rescue effort. A huge diesel slick appeared on the surface when the platform sank to bottom of the ocean floor, almost a mile down. This was just another in a series of oil spills that have plagued the state owned Petrobras in recent months.

March 25 - DENMARK - More than 764,000 gallons of oil spilled after a double-hulled tanker carrying 9.7 million gallons of oil, and a freighter crashed in international waters between eastern Denmark and northwest Germany. A slick about 9.3 miles long and 161/2-feet wide slipped into the narrow Groensund strait between the Danish islands of Moen, Bogoe and Falster, while the bulk of the oil remained in the Baltic Sea off southern Denmark. As ships from three countries worked to contain the oil spill, an international conservation group said that a sanctuary home to thousands of ducks, swans and other water fowl was under threat by the oil slick, the largest ever in Denmark.

April 6 - UNITED ARAB EMIRATES - Workers have started to clean a 12-kilometer-radius oil spill reaching the reserved island of Sir Bou Neair, about 70 nautical miles off the coast of the Emirate of Sharjah. The spill was caused by the Iraqi fuel tanker Zainab, suspected of smuggling around 1,300 tonnes of fuel oil from Iraq, as it ran into trouble on its way to a holding area in international waters. The emirate of Sharjah said it had temporarily shut down a desalination plant as a precautionary measure, after the spill neared pumping stations. The spill is said to be the emirate's worst environmental disaster in years.

May 24 - BRAZIL - Petrobras, infamous for a series of spills over the past two years, shut 12 oil rigs, responsible for nearly 9 percent of Brazil's oil output, Thursday night after detecting an oil slick on the ocean surface. There were two oil slicks some 90 km off the coast, one of approximately 110,000 liters and another of some 10,000 liters of crude. The source of the spill has yet to be determined, but officials are ruling out any relation to the huge oil rig that sank in March.

May 25 - CHILE - An oil tanker that ran aground in a remote southern Chilean fjord has spilled some 350,528 litres of crude, leaving an oil slick 70 miles (112 km) long and damaging wildlife and a salmon farm, the Chilean Navy has admitted. Maritime authorities initially dismissed the incident, saying the leak had been negligible and had caused no damage to the environment. But the Navy later admitted the spill was worse than initially announced.

May 28 - MALAYSIA - An oil tanker with some 67 tonnes of fuel, including diesel and 1,500 tonnes of bitumen, sunk after it was crashed from behind by a super tanker about 7.5 nautical miles off Pulau Undan, near Malacca. Officials said the crash caused MT Singapura Timur to take in water, and remained half-submerged in the sea floating southwards. Diesel and bitumen have started to spill into the sea, and is spreading to about one nautical mile from the collision spot.

May 30 - BRAZIL- Oil giant Petrobras said a break in its Paulinia pipeline dumped 220,000 liters of fuel oil in a residential neighborhood. The spill, which occurred 30 kilometers from the city of Sao Paulo, follows two unexplained and unclaimed oil spills in the Campos Basin off the coast of Rio de Janeiro state.

May 30 - CHINA - Chinese environmental experts are struggling to contain damage from toxic styrene which leaked from a ship, and fishermen along the eastern coast fear their livelihoods could be threatened for years to come. About 700 tonnes of the chemical, which is poisonous to humans, seeped into the waters near Shanghai after a South Korean vessel collided with a Hong Kong. State media said the South Korean freighter Dayong was carrying nearly 2,300 tonnes of styrene when it collided with the Hong Kong vessel in dense fog at the mouth of the Yangtze River, near Jigujiao.

June 10 - PHILIPPINES - An oil spill in Cavite is threatening to contaminate Laguna de Bay, caused by a bursting oil pipeline of an industrial and electronics firm at the People’s Technological Complex in Barangay Maduya, Carmona town. The oil spill has already affected a six-kilometer stretch of Carmona-Biñan River, just a few kilometers away from the Laguna Bay. Aside from the affected river, the spilling bunker oil and industrial fuel oil also affected land base areas surrounding the firm.

June 13 - MALAYSIA - An Indonesian tanker laden with a toxic chemical has capsized off Malaysia's southern Johor state, just across from Singapore. The 533 ton MV Endah Lestari was on its way to East Kalimantan in Indonesia with some 600 tonnes of the poisonous industrial chemical phenol, and 18 tonnes of diesel. Newspaper reports said the toxic spill had killed thousands of fish and cockles reared in 85 offshore cages, and Singapore authorities have also warned its citizens to stay away from nearby waters. Officials said it would be tough to mop up the phenol, as it is soluble in water.

August 4 - USA - A fishing vessel that has sunk and is leaking diesel fuel has caused the biggest spill in Alaska's Prince William Sound since the 1989 Exxon Valdez disaster, posing a threat to the area's wildlife. The Seattle-based Windy Bay was loaded with about 35,000 gallons (133,000 liters) of diesel fuel when it struck a rock and sank in the northern part of the sound about 40 miles (65 km) southwest of the port of Valdez. Just how much leaked was unknown, but diesel fuel leaking from the ship has created a sheen covering 4 square miles (10 sq km), and cleanup crews has recovered about 9,700 gallons (36,800 liters).

August 10 - MICRONESIA - A sunken World War II ship has been gushing 300 to 500 gallons of oil per hour into the Ulithi Atoll lagoon. The cause of the spill is the USS Mississinewa, a 553-foot Navy oiler sunk in 1944 by a one-man Japanese suicide submarine. Yap State officials said the state's governor has declared a state of emergency for Ulithi and advised the 700 people who live on the atoll not to swim or fish in the lagoon. Questions have been raised who should bear the responsibility for taking relevant action, with focus on getting international assistance to clean-up and minimize the environmental and ecological impacts.

September 7 - VIETNAM - Local residents in small boats used buckets to try to collect thousands of tons of oil from a damaged oil tanker and save the nearby beach resort of Vung Tau, after The Vietnamese Petrolimex 01 tanker, carrying 19,000 tons of diesel oil, was hit by a Liberian-registered oil tanker. But wind and waves drove much of the spilled oil to the beach, which normally attracts thousands of vacationers a day.

September 22 - USA - An oil spill caused by a collision between a ship and a barge closed the ship channel servicing the nation's second largest port. The fuel oil spill occurred at Barbour's Cut in La Porte, Texas, and some 860 barrels of fuel oil leaked into the channel. About 18,000 feet of boom were set up to contain the oil, and skimmers were removing it. Containment and cleanup operations involved more than 70 people.

October 4 - USA - Crews were slowed by explosive vapors as they tried to plug a leak in the trans-Alaska Oil Pipeline that spewed nearly 300,000 gallons of oil into the wilderness. A man who had been drinking caused the leak when he shot the pipeline with a big-game rifle. The pipeline carries about 1 million barrels of oil a day, prompting a halt to almost a fifth of U.S. domestic production.

October 18 - BRAZIL - Brazilian and foreign teams prepared to begin salvaging a tanker that hit underwater rocks, spewing a highly flammable oil product into the sea and forcing closure of the country's primary port for grain shipments. State oil giant Petrobras, which owns the tanker, said about 103,000 gallons (392,000 litres) of naphtha, an oil product lighter than gasoline, spilled into the Paranagua port area, some 380 miles (600 km) southwest of Rio.

November 21 - GERMANY - Almost 2,000 tonnes of nitric acid has spilled into the Rhine river, when motor tank barge Stolt Rotterdam sank during a disastrous discharging operation. The 1988-built chemical tanker was discharging the acid at Erdoelchemie Uerdingen when crew noticed fumes coming from the bottom of the barge. An emergency response was initiated, but a store room caught fire, forcing the crew and everyone in the surrounding area to evacuate as the vessel sank, emptying 1,895 tonnes of nitric acid into the river.

December 11 - FINLAND - Oil from a spill off the country's west coast has washed ashore on some 1.24 miles of Ruissalo island's coastline, and the spill is now three kilometers long and a kilometer wide. 10 vessels are involved in operations to contain and sweep up the oil, but the source of the spill is still unknown.

2002

January 22 - THAILAND - A huge oil slick has hit beaches in Thailand's Rayong Bay, a popular holiday spot south-east of the capital Bangkok, and is also said to be threatening the nearby resort island of Samet. Some 100,000 litres of oil had spilled from the Panama-registered tanker Eastern Fortitude when it hit a rock in Rayong Bay a week earlier. Authorities have struggled to clean up the slick, now estimated to be at least 400 m wide and about 3 km long, but complained they were not alerted to the accident until too late.

February 8 - UNITED STATES - A ship that sank nearly 50 years ago is to blame for a mystery oil spill that has killed more than 1,300 birds since November. The Coast Guard matched oil samples taken from the SS Jacob Luckenbach, located about 17 miles southwest of the Golden Gate Bridge, to those taken from oiled birds and the oil sheen that has colored the water. Just a drop or two of oil on a bird's feathers can break the animal's insulating layer and lead to hypothermia.

February 9 - NEW ZEALAND - A major clean-up operation is under way after a cargo ship carrying more than 700 tonnes of fuel ran aground a few hundred metres from the north island port of Gisborne. Already, several tonnes of thick black oil has drifted 400 metres to shore, polluting nearby rivers, beaches and coastline and sending noxious fumes over dozens of houses. Whilst conservation staff have already rescued a number of birds affected by oil in a local creek, wildlife casualties are expected to be inevitable.

April 4 - JAPAN - A flotilla of ships has raced to contain an oil slick off Japan's western coast before it washes ashore. The 10-kilometer (6.2-mile) long spill has been slowly moving towards the coast since it bubbled to the surface from a Belize-registered cargo ship that sank four days earlier, after colliding with a fishing boat. Officials earlier said the spill would likely hit the coast, but did not know when or where.

April 6 - USA - Strong wind hampered cleanup efforts as workers tried to contain a 90,000-gallon crude oil spill off the southeast Louisiana coast. Four-foot waves made it difficult for skimmers to collect the oil, but the Coast Guard said about 6,720 gallons had been recovered. No damage to wildlife had been reported, but officials expected there to be some shoreline impact.

June 12 - SINGAPORE - A collision between Thailand-registered freighter MV Hermion and Singapore-registered bunker tanker Neptank VII has caused about 450 tonnes of marine fuel oil to spill into the south-eastern waters of Singapore. Clean-up operations by the Maritime and Port Authority of Singapore (MPA) have largely contained the oil spill, but broken patches of oil remained visible in the Singapore Straits, and oil booms were placed off the waters of Marina Bay and Sentosa.

July 31 - ROMANIA - Tons of oil gushed into a river in southern Romania after torrential rains damaged a pipeline. The spill occurred in the Prahova River near the village of Manesti, some 50 kilometers north of the capital, Bucharest. The water damaged the pipeline near a refinery owned by a state oil company, Conpet. Authorities placed dams along the Prahova to prevent oil from spilling into the Danube River, and police guarded the area overnight to prevent people from throwing flammable objects into the river.

September 12 - SOUTH AFRICA - Salvage teams and ecologists are battling to contain a spill of oil and chemicals from a blazing cargo vessel, and to prevent tides from pushing the spill into the pristine Saint Lucia wetlands, a wildlife sanctuary nearby. Wildlife officials have warned that a serious oil spill could pollute the Umfolozi River and a nearby estuary, and damage mangroves, crocodiles, hippos and a turtle nesting area in the park. Reefs off the area are also popular among scuba divers for their wide variety of fish.

November 13 - SPAIN - Four tugs have failed in their attempts to rescue a leaking oil tanker with 77.000 tonnes of fuel aboard, which later broke in two and sank off the northwestern coast of Spain. The Prestige, Greek-owned and registered in the Bahamas, has leaked most of its cargo, and the oil is washing up on the Galician shores and approaching the coastlines of Portugal and France. All fishing activities have been banned in the area, and the incident is fast becoming one of the worst ecological disasters ever to happen.

November 23 - CHINA - A Chinese ship has collided with a Maltese-registered oil tanker, spreading an oil slick 2.5 miles by 1.4 miles across the Bohai sea. The Tianjin Maritime Bureau sent seven vessels to clean up the spill at the accident site. Preliminary inquiries indicate the Tasman Sea tanker, which was bound for Tianjin carrying 80.000 tons of oil, was anchored off the coast when the accident took place.

December 5 - SINGAPORE - A potentially disastrous crude oil spill in Singapore waters was contained to just 350 tonnes when a small general cargo vessel collided with a heavily-laden single-hulled tanker in the middle of the Singapore Straits. Two oil slicks measuring 2.5kmx300m and 2.5kmx500m were spotted in Indonesian waters off the island of Bintan.

2003

February 14 - USA - Clean up operations are underway at Midway Atoll National Wildlife Refuge after an underground corroded pipeline fitting released as many as 100,000 gallons of fuel in the fuel farm area last week. The atoll provides nesting and resting habitat for almost two million seabirds, as well as important habitat for migratory shorebirds, threatened green sea turtles, and endangered Hawaiian monk seals. Since almost all of the spill is underground, however, impact to wildlife has so far been minimal, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service said.

March 18 - AUSTRALIA - A large oil spill is threatening to pollute the Brisbane River, where up to 1.5 million litres of crude oil has leaked from a ruptured pipeline at the Santos terminal. Emergency crews have contained the oil to creeks and wetlands in an area of about eight hectares in the Lytton industrial estate. Booms further up the water course had not stopped the oil and the outgoing tide was threatening to drag the slick into the river and Moreton Bay.

March 20 - VIETNAM - Thousands of acres of clam and shrimp farms were in danger after a ship carrying 600 tonnes of fuel oil sank in the river in Ho Chi Minh City, environment officials said. The oil slick spread about seven kilometers towards Can Gio district, home of several aqua-cultural farms. It also spread three kilometers towards Vung Tau province, but has yet to hit the beaches there.

May 31 - SWEDEN - The Swedish government accused Denmark of reacting too slowly to the sinking of a Chinese vessel in Danish waters near Sweden's coast, saying the effects of the ensuing oil spill could have been reduced. The Fu Shan Hai bulk carrier went down in Danish waters between the Swedish coast and Denmark's Bornholm island, following a collision with a Polish freighter. At least 100 tonnes of oil have already leaked out into the water, and a large oil slick gushing from the vessel has hit Sweden's popular southeastern coast.

June 12 - SINGAPORE - The MV APL Emerald, a 40.077 ton container ship, spilled about 150 tonnes of fuel oil when it ran aground near Horsburgh Lighthouse, in the eastern approaches of the Singapore Straits. Six anti-pollution craft were involved in the clean-up, and oil booms have been laid around the vessel to contain the spill, which has since been contained. The authorities said there was no chance of any fuel reaching Singapore's shores, about 46km away.

July 12 - RUSSIA - Russian divers are exploring a sunken Japanese tanker that has begun releasing large quantities of oil and threatens to spark an ecological disaster off the west coast of the Pacific island of Sakhalin. More than two tonnes of fuel have leaked in the past few days from the Takeo Maru, which sank in 1979 off the sea port of Shakhtersk. The leaked oil is floating in the Tatar strait and heading for the coast. With up to 300 tonnes of fuel oil remaining inside the sunken tanker, the Takeo Maru could be an ecological bomb that jeopardizes Russia's Pacific coastline.

August 13 - PAKISTAN - An oil tanker has broken up off Pakistan's Arabian Sea port, Karachi, after spilling nearly 10,000 tonnes of oil, sparking fears of lasting damage to local marine life. The Greek-registered MV Tasman Spirit, still carrying 35,000 tonnes of crude oil, split in two around 100 metres from the Karachi port, after running aground on July 27. Officials said that most of the oil had pooled along Clifton beach, the favourite beach resort among Karachi's 14 million people. A thick oil slick could be seen snaking from the ship to the shores alongside the port, blackening waves and seeping onto sands. Environmentalists predicted the entire 40 kilometre (25 mile) Karachi coastline could be affected, endangering fish, crabs and rare turtles.

2004

January 19 - PHILIPPINES - An oil spill coming from a diving boat that ran aground at the Apo Manor Reef in December, a protected marine park off Mindoro Island, is threatening to destroy one of the world’s best dive sites. Residents of Barangay Siblayan in Occidental Mindoro, a nearby coastal town, said that the M/V Island Explorer has started to leak bunker fuel, endangering the reef which serves as a fish nursery and the major source of livelihood of the surrounding communities. The surrounding waters are abundant with marine fauna and luxuriant coral growth with more than 500 coral species. Marine life includes sharks, stingrays and manta rays.

January 20 - NORWAY - A large oil spill has started spreading from the capsized cargo vessel "Rocknes", that spilled several thousand litres of oil and bunker fuel along the coastline near the city of Bergen. Close to a thousand seabirds have already been found dead or dying, and clean-up crews are working day and night to clean up affected coastlines and prevent the slick from spreading further. However, due to the immediate search and rescue work that prevented the oil spill response activities from commencing, thick patches of oil have already drifted beyond the reach of the highly sophisticated and efficient Norwegian oil spill response vessels and their equipment.

March 4 - CHINA - Nearly one million people in south-western Sichuan province were without water for drinking and bathing, after chemicals spilled from a factory into an important Yangtze river tributary, state media said. The authorities shut down water supplies after a mixture of synthetic ammonia and nitrogen from the Sichuan General Chemical Factory leaked into the Tuo river in the densely populated province, the Shanghai Morning Post reported. Water supplies for four residential areas - Jianyang, Zizhong, Neijiang and Luzhou - were severely polluted, and could remain cut for several days, the report said.

October 2 - INDONESIA - An oil spill has swamped a chain of tourist islands off the coast of the Indonesian capital, polluting a marine park and hitting businesses in the area, officials and media reports said. Oil began leaking in the region known as the Thousand Islands, and government officials said the spill may have been caused by leaking oil pipes operated nearby by China National Offshore Oil Corp, or by a mishap loading oil onto tankers. The islands have been hit by at least five oil spills in the past year, driving occupancy rates at some resorts to just about 30 per cent, according to Jakarta Tourism Agency. The oil slick has also hurt fishermen and seaweed farmers in the area, officials said.

October 14 - USA - Emergency crews scrambled to control a massive south Sound oil spill that soiled portions of Tacoma's Commencement Bay and stretched for miles in a bluish-black sheen, threatening pristine beaches and wildlife on Maury and Vashon islands. "We have a major oil spill on our hands," said the spokesman for the state Department of Ecology. "This is a very large, very complex spill." Officials didn't know where it came from, who was responsible or exactly how much oil had been spilled.

November 18 - BRAZIL - Workers are rushing to avert an environmental disaster as an oil slick spread from a cargo ship that exploded and broke in half at a port in southern Brazil. Workers found dead fish and dolphins in the toxic slick of fuel oil, diesel fuel and methanol that leaked from the ship. The slick, which blackened rocks and beaches, stretched for more than 20 kilometres from the port of Paranagua, 625 kilometres south-west of Rio de Janeiro. Environmental officials indefinitely banned many maritime activities and grounded the area's 3000 fishermen.

November 21 - CANADA - Scientists warn the 44,000 gallon oil spill at an oil platform off Canada's Newfoundland province could kill up to 100,000 seabirds. The spill, coming at a bad time for the birds, occurred at the Terra Nova offshore oil platform as a result of a malfunction. A few days laster, the slick covered at least 14 square miles. The birds at risk include turrs, dovekeys and black-legged kittiwakes, as well as migrating birds such as shearwaters.

November 26 - USA - A tanker has spilled what was initially estimated as appr. 30,000 gallons of crude oil into the Delaware River between Philadelphia and southern New Jersey, immediately creating a 20-mile slick that threatened fish and birds. But authorities later estimated that it could be as much as 475,000 gallons, leaving a gooey mess that has stained 70 miles of shoreline across three states. More than 1,000 cleanup and emergency responders were called in to skim oil from the surface of the water, and place thousands of feet of barriers to contain the floating slick.

December 7 - CHINA - A collision between two container ships near the mouth of South China's Pearl River has caused the region's biggest oil spill in five years. Nearly 450 tonnes are said to have been spilled. Oil was mainly leaking from the fuel tanks of the MSC Ilona, that caused a slick about 17 kilometers long and up to several hundred meters wide. Eight decontamination ships from Guangdong Province are on the spot to deal with the leaking oil, while divers have been dispatched to plug the leak.

December 10 - USA - Thousands of gallons of fuel oil spilling out of a Malaysian freighter that snapped in two off the US state of Alaska have put the Aleutian islands' fragile ecosystem in jeopardy, fueling fears of an environmental crisis 15 years after the Exxon Valdez disaster. The Selendang Ayu's 480,000-gallon (1.8 million-litre) stock of thick fuel was leaking into the water off Unalaska Island, killing cormorants and marine life and leaving a thick and dark coating on beaches. Wildlife in the area includes endangered or threatened species such as Steller sea lions and Steller's eiders as well as western Alaska sea otters, the population of which is dwindling.

December 20 - EGYPT - An oil slick in the Suez Canal is threatening to reach the Mediterranean, port sources said. The spill was caused by a leak in a Kuwaiti tanker carrying 160,000 tonnes of crude, after it collided with a dredger further south on December 14. The slick has tripled in size over a week and now measures around 34 miles (55 kilometres) in length, the source said, adding that about 10,000 cubic metres (2.2 million gallons) had been lost from the tanker. Several aquatic species are threatened by the contamination, and foreign officials charge that the Egyptian authorities have no adequate strategy to face such environmental threats and lack means to combat them.

What you want to know, is that you are not alone to quench your need for a light bulb while you type away on the Internet blasting this recent tragedy because it is everyone ELSEs fault.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-30   15:57:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: christine, Cynicom, farmfriend, CadetD, Rotara, ItIsTooLate, IR Torqued, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Jethro Tull, HighLairEon, HOUNDDAWG, bluegrass, Kamala, Deacon Benjamin, HappyToBeMe-4um, Eric Stratton, Esso, abraxas, farmfriend, all (#0)

((((((Please Excuse the Troll Droppings Above Ping.)))))

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   16:01:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine, buckeroo (#1)

christine - this long post of disrelated information is a common disinformation agent/poster tactic which I have seen before. The intent is to obscure information and dissuade people from reading the main data on the thread by piling on large quantities of shit. The point being to bury the post that the disinfo poster does not want others to read.

I think it should be clear at this point that Buckie is a paid poster whose function is to disrupt.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   16:04:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Original_Intent (#2)

Excellent essay, sir.

Being the eternal optimist, the one benefit that will come out of this tragedy is the end of the corporate state within a generation or two. It won't be pretty.

bluegrass  posted on  2010-05-30   16:04:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#1)

If you're going to copypasta, at least put a link up so we know where your unoriginal thinking comes from.

bluegrass  posted on  2010-05-30   16:06:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: bluegrass (#4)

Excellent essay, sir.

Being the eternal optimist, the one benefit that will come out of this tragedy is the end of the corporate state within a generation or two. It won't be pretty.

Thank you.

I just wish the toll would not be so heavy. Dear God I wish it were not so.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   16:13:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#6)

We're screwed. Our children will have a tough time of it. Our grandchildren might be able to do a little better.

Whether this is just incompetence or actual malice is immaterial. The officers of BP, Transocean and Halliburton need to hang.

bluegrass  posted on  2010-05-30   16:19:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: bluegrass (#7)

We're screwed. Our children will have a tough time of it. Our grandchildren might be able to do a little better.

Whether this is just incompetence or actual malice is immaterial. The officers of BP, Transocean and Halliburton need to hang.

Unfortunately I think that an accurate prognosis. The realities of what is occurring are staggering and numbing. At this point I have been forced to look at so much foulness that I can force myself to look at this event and try to figure out the likely outcome. If anything, for brevity's sake, I left out some of the stuff - such as the toxic rain likely to fall inland - a combination of oil and the highly toxic corexit dispersant that BP is using promiscuously to try and hide the true size of the gusher(s).

This literally is, if continued too long, a planetary scale event which will leave no corner of the earth unaffected. The death toll in that case will like run into the hundreds of millions to billions.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   16:27:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#8)

What staggers me even more are the braindead sheep that surround me. The multi-generational brainwashing has been a great success.

bluegrass  posted on  2010-05-30   16:44:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: bluegrass (#9)

Yes, the lamestream mediawhores, on the rare occasions they even mention it, are minimizing the problem, repeating the government propaganda, and otherwise ignoring it. The Sheeple, bless their fuzzy constipated little minds, are grazing right along totally oblivious to the greatest environmental catastrophe of the modern age. In so doing they are signing their own death warrant and those of the ones they allegedly love.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   17:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Who is the guy that does all the apocalypse posts. I'd like to know how this fits in with the four horsemen, trumpets etc.


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farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   17:05:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: farmfriend, AllTheKingsHorses (#11)

"AllTheKingsHorses"?

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   17:11:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Original_Intent (#12)

Yes, thanks!


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   17:15:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: farmfriend (#13)

YW :-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   17:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: farmfriend (#11)

I do know that in Revelations, one of the Angels released blood (arial photos show red streaks over on the water) into the oceans and one third of all life would be wiped out. : (

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   17:24:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: abraxas (#15)

Realistically that is the potential scale we are looking at.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   17:29:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#16)

It's so disturbing. I've been feeling sick to my stomach for more than 40 days over this "spill" and the utter incompetency of BP and the goobermint to do anything about it. Meanwhile, the MSM can only dish out non stop coverage of every fart or burp in Hollywood.

I've long felt that this is far worse than what is being reported.......

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   17:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: abraxas, AllTheKingsHorses, Original_Intent (#15)

I do know that in Revelations, one of the Angels released blood (arial photos show red streaks over on the water) into the oceans and one third of all life would be wiped out.

I don't know about blood but I know there are vials poured out. I can quote a lot of scripture but I haven't studied Revelation enough to have this stuff just come to mind. I'm hoping to get the opinion of someone who does study it.

(Course I could pull out a Bible and look it up)


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   17:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#16)

Realistically that is the potential scale we are looking at.

Agreed.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   17:35:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: abraxas (#17)

I've long felt that this is far worse than what is being reported.......

It is part of their control of the public. By limiting information they control what people know and are aware of and how they will react. If the general public really had a grasp of how truly truly serious this is there would be marches on Washington DEMANDING that it be handled and HANDLED NOW. As it stands now it is just a few images flickering for a few seconds before it's on to "Who's Brittany Doing Now".

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   17:37:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: farmfriend, abraxas, AllTheKingsHorses (#18)

I'm hoping to get the opinion of someone who does study it.

Roger that. He's forgotten more scripture than I know.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   17:39:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: farmfriend (#18)

After the four hoursemen, seven further events occur:

The trumpets blowing had the following results, in sequence (The Revelation 8- 10):

1.First angel trumpet blow: hail and fire mixed with blood hurled upon the earth with one third of the earth burned up.

2.Second angel trumpet blow: huge burning mountain thrown into the sea with one third of ships and sea-life destroyed and one-third of the sea turning to blood. (Could this be the "volcano" of oil erupting?)

3.Third angel trumpet blow: great blazing star fell from the sky onto a third of the rivers and springs, polluting one-third of the water on earth.

4.Fourth angel trumpet blow: a third of the sun and moon and stars were darkened.

5.Fifth angel trumpet blow: key to the "Abyss" (i.e, hell; bottomless pit) opened it: sun and sky were darkened; locusts with strange looks and scorpion's tails tortued people without the seal of God on their foreheads. The king of the locusts was the "angel of the Abyss" -- named Abaddon (or Apollyon or Destroyer).

6.Sixth angel trumpet blow: four angels (or possibly demons) with a large army and deadly horses (with their tails having heads like snakes) were released, killing one- third of mankind.

7.Seventh angel trumpet blow: the world then belongs to the Lord and Christ forever.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   17:39:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: abraxas, AllTheKingsHorses, Original_Intent (#18)

Revelation 16:3

"The second angel emptied his bowl over the sea, and it turned to blood, like the blood of a corpse, and every living creature in the sea died."


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   17:46:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend, (#21)

Then, somewhat of a repeat for Rev. 15-16

Then, John saw the "seven last plagues" that were assigned to seven angels to finish God's anger (The Revelation 15-16):

1.First angel: ugly, painful sores were given to all with the mark of the Beast.

2.Second angel: the seas turned to blood and died.

3.Third angel: rivers and springs turned to blood.

4.Fourth angel: the sun scorched people with its fire.

5.Fifth angel: the kingdom of the Beast from the sea was made dark.

6.Sixth angel: River Euphrates was dried up; and three evil spirits looking like frogs (Dragon, Beast, False Prophet) readied for battle on the "Judgment Day" at Armageddon (the mountain of Megiddo).

7.Seventh angel: greatest of all earthquakes occurred; islands vanished; mountains flattened; 100-pound hailstones fell.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   17:47:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend (#23)

We were posting at the same time. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   17:48:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: abraxas (#25)

We were posting at the same time. : )

LOL Great minds...


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   17:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: farmfriend (#26)

Here's the Hopi Prophecy:

"This is the Seventh Sign: You will hear of the sea turning black, and many living things dying because of it." – That’s from The Hopi Prophecies.

And the sad thing is there are only 9 from the Hopi. Here's the last two:

This is the Eight Sign: You will see many youth, who wear their hair long like my people, come and join the tribal nations, to learn their ways and wisdom. (I think this one has already happened.)

"And this is the Ninth and Last Sign: You will hear of a dwelling-place in the heavens, above the earth, that shall fall with a great crash. It will appear as a blue star. Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   17:52:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: abraxas (#27)

Wow.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   18:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Carried out to its cataclysmic extreme, with no effective action to stop the flow of oil and gas, the potential exists to inhibit the greater ocean’s carbon dioxide absorbtion, and oxygen production, to the point that the atmosphere of the planet itself tips over into toxic.

And at THAT point, runaway global warming becomes a distinct possibility.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-05-30   18:18:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: abraxas, 4 (#24)

Keep those homeowner's policies up to date folks.

Ir'a gonna get really, really crazy.

Soon.

Lod  posted on  2010-05-30   18:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Not with a bang but a whimper.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre The falcon cannot hear the falconer; Things fall apart; the center cannot hold; Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere The ceremony of innocence is drowned; The best lack all conviction, while the worst Are full of passionate intensity. .... Yeats

iconoclast  posted on  2010-05-30   18:42:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: farmfriend (#18)

I'm hoping to get the opinion of someone who does study it.

Go here and watch this video by Pastor Mike Hoggard:

sureynot.com/v/1242/watch...eo-broadcast-5-23-10.html

He has some very good videos on the occult times we live in.

"Solomon's Key" is one and "The Mother of All Secrets" another good one.

Just "google it" !

"Rebellion is natural when governments become "revolting."

noone222  posted on  2010-05-30   19:49:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: noone222 (#32)

Thanks!


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   19:51:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: farmfriend, abraxas, Original_Intent, bluegrass, noone222, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#33)

there do appear to be a lot of signs that this is the end times.

and, btw, ATKHWDI, is a she.

christine  posted on  2010-05-30   19:57:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: christine, abraxas, Original_Intent, bluegrass, noone222, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#34)

and, btw, ATKHWDI, is a she.

LOL that's what Noone222 was telling me privately. So hard to tell on forums. Haven't seen her post in a while. I hope someone can contact her and draw her attention to this thread.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   20:01:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: BP's oil gusher in the Gulf, Spin terminology explained satire (#34)

(NaturalNews Satire) What exactly is a "junk shot?" How about "top kill" or an "undersea plume?" The oil disaster in the Gulf of Mexico is introducing the world to all sorts of fascinating words and phrases from the world of Big Oil. Some of them can be a bit confusing, so as a public service to NaturalNews readers, I've published a short dictionary that provides the real meaning behind many of these new terms.

"Top Kill" - A technique used to kill everything on the TOP of the ocean using chemical dispersants that cause the dead animal bodies to sink to the BOTTOM of the ocean so they can't be caught on camera.

"Top Hat" - What BP executives will all be wearing at the huge banquet they will soon be holding to celebrate how they pulled off the environmental crime of the century without even a slap on the wrist (thanks to Big Government complicity).

"Blowout Preventer" - BP's public relations person who lies to the press to prevent a P.R. blowout from occurring. A blowout preventer preventer is any member of the press who asks tough questions.

"Junk Shot" - An effort to thrust shredded tires, golf balls and other trash into the hole to stop the oil flow. This is the oil industry's attempt to try to make the Gulf of Mexico look like the streets of Mexico City by filling it with trash.

"Chemical Dispersant" - A highly toxic chemical substance being pumped into the Gulf of Mexico by the hundreds of thousands of gallons in an effort to kill so much marine life that the toxicity of the oil itself seems small by comparison.

"Undersea Plume" - Rhymes with "doom." A term used to confuse mainstream news viewers who would be disturbed by the more accurate term, "Undersea VOLCANO of oil."

"Live Feed" - What BP calls a video loop which repeats a few choice frames over and over again and morphs them to create the illusion that it's actually a live video. The effect is further enhanced by adding a clock that counts off the seconds in real time in the lower right-hand corner. The public is now utterly hypnotized by these video loops, much like house cats watching ceiling fans.

"Mud" - A code word for crude oil. This is being repeated on the TV news when newscasters explain that the live video feed showing crude oil bursting out of the ocean floor is mostly just "mud." They actually mean oil. Mud, after all, does not explode from the ocean floor in a volcanic burst.

"According to plan" - A British Petroleum euphemism for "all f**ked up." As in, "The top kill procedure is going according to plan." The cleanup is going according to plan, too, it seems. As long as BP is in charge, everything is going according to plan. How dare you suggest they have no clue what they're doing...

"Barrel of oil" - An imaginary unit of oil volume that can be morphed into whatever size BP wishes it to be. At investors' meetings, the number of barrels of oil in the Gulf of Mexico magically becomes very large, but during oil spills, the number magically shrinks to appear much smaller.

"Cleanup workers" - Temporary workers hired by BP to comb the beaches in front of news cameras to make it appear like something useful is happening. BP has now promised to triple the number of active cleanup workers to nine.

"You will not be left behind" - A phrase uttered by President Obama, who, immediately after saying it, left everybody behind and took all of BPs beach cleaning crews with him, too. Obama has now returned to his golf game, where he claims to be working on the oil spill problem by aiming his golf balls in the direction of the Gulf of Mexico and hoping they will land in the gaping hole at the bottom of the ocean, thereby making them "junk shot."

Let's get serious Okay, everything above is just satire, but in reality this Gulf spill is serious business. Although we try to poke fun at the mistakes that were made in causing this to happen, the truth is that this situation is no laughing matter.

In the days ahead, I'm going to be posting stories about the seriousness of this environmental catastrophe and what it might mean for the future of our world. Make no mistake: This event has changed the course of our energy future, and it may actually change it in a very positive way in the long term (even though the short term cost of this catastrophe may be outrageously large).

Watch for more coverage of this unfolding event right here at NaturalNews.com. And in the mean time, try not to be hoodwinked by BP spin. The truth is, if they had any freaking idea what they were doing, the disaster wouldn't have happened in the first place (or they would have capped it long before now).

christine  posted on  2010-05-30   20:03:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: farmfriend (#35)

she posted yesterday. some good stuff too.

christine  posted on  2010-05-30   20:04:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: abraxas (#27)

Very soon after this, the ceremonies of my people will cease.

Then what?

: )


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-30   20:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: christine (#37)

she posted yesterday. some good stuff too.

Hmmm, missed it. I'll take a look. I miss a lot unless someone pings me to it. Plus my computer was down yesterday. Nice to have an in house computer tech.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   20:06:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: christine (#36)

BP has now promised to triple the number of active cleanup workers to nine.

But no guarantees.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-30   20:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: wudidiz (#38)

Then what?

: )

No further dispatches.....communications severed......like the monks who remote view, nothing after 2012. Then, the collective conscious goes bezerk and, in all honesty, it's been on the edge of bezerk for awhile now. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   20:10:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: wudidiz, christine (#40)

BP has now promised to triple the number of active cleanup workers to nine. But no guarantees.

Eight are already calling in sick from the dispersants.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   20:11:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: abraxas (#41)

it's been on the edge of bezerk for awhile now.

Time for a beer.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   20:11:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: farmfriend (#43)

Time for a beer.

Sounds good......make mine a Sam Adams. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   20:12:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: farmfriend (#39)

freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/re...i? ArtNum=118551&Disp=2#C2


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-30   20:13:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: wudidiz (#45)

Ah thanks!


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   20:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Most people are aware of the Amazon Rain Forest and what that plant life means to the production of breathable Oxygen. However, most people are unaware that the oceans produce 50 to 70 percent of the available free oxygen. This is done by ocean plant life mostly in the form of what is known as Phytoplankton. Phytoplankton are small, often single cell, micro plants that form the base of the ocean food chain. Phytoplankton takes dissolved carbon dioxide and minerals from the sea water, and with the input of energy in the form of sunlight, through photosynthesis they create cellular matter which is then consumed by the next higher level of the food chain and on and on with the larger consuming the smaller until you reach the top of the food chain.

So, why the lecture on the ocean ecosystem? Because the Gulf produces as much or more oxygen than the entire Amazon Rain Forest. Let that sink in for a moment. Try to wrap your mind around that scale, and then realize that the Gulf is only part of the picture - more on that in a moment. As the cloud of death in the form of toxic petroleum and methane permeates the gulf things are going to begin to die. And the cloud of petroleum also reduces the amount of sunlight reaching the phytoplankton thus inhibiting photosynthesis. So, even before it dies from the toxins in the water its metabolism is going to be slowed by the unnatural shade and its consumption of carbon dioxide and output of free oxygen will be inhibited.

Good synopsis of this false flag and clear, impassioned wake up call, O_I!

Your information about the oceans producing ~70% of our oxygen, always a good prime fact to remind people about and the relative size of the Gulf as part of our vital air supply should get some people's attention.

The more I read about Corexit, the more I see a ghoulish wit behind the naming of it!

As these soulless robots make the problem far worse, to make money off the "cleanup", to hide the plume and prevent the recovery of the oil, and it seems, to further the population-culling agenda, the more apt the name:

Core Exit: "All those NOT among the 500 million elites and their chosen lap dog slaves, please exit life boat Earth immediately!"

Dumping the most toxic dispersant in huge amounts, like zombies, into the u.s.'s most fertile fishery, flyway stopover and breeding grounds, looks like the chemtrail gambit on speed!

Talk about a slow acting false flag!

I am frankly surprised at how well the mediaMatrix's denial-by-boredom is working. The intermind is awakening fast but the MSM mind-control is working as usual for the moment....

Once the first human sicknesses and deaths are reported, coming in from airborne precipitation of the Corexit raised by evaporation and storms, it will be a different game.

Trying to suppress deaths in the Middle East empire assault is one thing; caught lying about deaths in the u.s., even if equivocated by the usual "they were already sick" gambit, is quite another thing.

If you snap credulity too hard, you break the trance. Without the mind-control pacifying hypnosis, the oppressed slaves-who-think-they're-free will be more than the guards can handle.

Then, it will be interesting times....


Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when the FEAR card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ruins of the totalitarian game!

HighLairEon  posted on  2010-05-30   20:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: abraxas, farmfriend (#44)

Sounds good......make mine a Sam Adams. : )

Anchor Porter here.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   20:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend (#48)

I'm thinking that it might be a real good time to stock up on tunafish and shrimp while out on the beer run.......might run out of opportunies to pick any up real soon. : (

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   21:00:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: abraxas (#49)

Yes, I suspect the price of Shrimp, wild caught in particular, is going to become a bit elevated. Tuna mostly comes from the Pacific so it may not go up - as much.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   21:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Original_Intent, abraxas (#48)

Sounds good......make mine a Sam Adams. : )

Anchor Porter here

Negra Modelo


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-30   21:07:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Original_Intent (#50) (Edited)

Tuna mostly comes from the Pacific so it may not go up - as much.

I heard that environmental scientist on that Democracy Now clip saying that right now is the tuna spawning time and that the gulf was the main producer for the US. Did you happen to watch that clip? Maybe I heard him wrong or wasn't paying close enough attention.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   21:12:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: HighLairEon, Original_Intent (#47)

excellent posts, both of you.

christine  posted on  2010-05-30   21:17:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: abraxas (#52)

That may well be the case for one species - Tuna is distributed throughout the warmer waters of both oceans. However, while there may be a Tuna fishery there I know that a lot of it comes either out of Southern California or from overseas fisheries - Thailand, South Pacific, etc., .... So, it may be my misconception that the Pacific Tuna Fishery was more important.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   21:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: christine (#53)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   21:59:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Original_Intent, abraxas, christine, all (#54)

OI, Here's an interview with Carl Safina....

The video is found here, but I don't think you can watch it, so you can read it here:

JUAN GONZALEZ: As we continue our discussion on the BP oil spill, we turn now to look at the long-term ecological impact of the spill. Our next guest testified before Congress last week and warned the fallout from the spill may be felt across much of the world. Joining us here in New York is Carl Safina, the founding president of Blue Ocean Institute. He’s author of many books about marine ecology and the ocean, including Song for the Blue Ocean. Welcome to Democracy Now!

CARL SAFINA: Thanks for having me.

JUAN GONZALEZ: What message did you bring to Congress?

CARL SAFINA: Well, that this is not just a regional disaster, although it certainly is, but that the Gulf of Mexico is a tremendous engine of life and also a tremendous concentration zone, where animals from the whole open Atlantic Ocean funnel into the Gulf for breeding and millions of animals cross the Gulf and concentrate there on their northward migration and then fan out to populate much of North America and the Canadian Arctic, the East Coast, the Canadian Maritimes. So it’s a real hotspot, and it’s a terrible place to foul.

AMY GOODMAN: Tuna?

CARL SAFINA: The bluefin tuna that occupy most of the North Atlantic Ocean have two separate breeding populations. One breeds in the Mediterranean. The other breeds in the Gulf. So all the tuna that populate the East Coast, the Canadian Maritimes, the Gulfstream, even that go as far as the North Sea, many of those are from the western population and breed only in the Gulf of Mexico. This is their breeding season. They’ve just about finished now. And their eggs and larvae are drifting around in a toxic soup of oil and dispersant.

AMY GOODMAN: Talk about the dispersant Corexit.

CARL SAFINA: Well, the dispersant is a toxic pollutant that has been applied in the volume of millions of gallons and I think has greatly exacerbated the situation. I think the whole idea of using a dispersant is wrong, and I think it’s part of the whole pattern of BP trying to cover up and hide the body. They don’t want us to see how much oil, so they’ve taken this oil that was concentrated at the surface and dissolved it. But when you dissolve it, it’s still there, and it actually gets more toxic, because instead of being in big blobs, it’s now dissolved and can get across the gills, get into the mouths of animals. The water below the floating oil was water. Now it’s this toxic soup. So I think that in this whole pattern of BP trying to not let people know what’s going on, the idea of disperse the oil is a way of just hiding the body. But it actually makes the oil more toxic, and it adds this incredible amount of toxic pollutant in the dispersant itself.

JUAN GONZALEZ: And the potential you were talking about, that this is the season when so much of the marine life and the bird life is creating their young, what is the effect on the birds, on those birds that are about to hatch or maybe are already in the process of hatching?

CARL SAFINA: Yeah, well, not only do you have birds there that are breeding, like the pelicans and some of the gulls and some of the terns, those birds will probably have a completely catastrophic breeding season, because it’s not just birds on the beach or birds in their nest. Their parents make a living diving into water. There’s no way around that. You can put booms that are twenty-feet high. They’re going to fly out to feed. And when I was there, we could see on the Chandeleur Islands quite a few of the terns were already lightly oiled, but they will just get progressively more and more oiled. And no amount of protecting the area where the nests are is going to change the fact that the parents are going to have a tremendous amount of trouble. And many of them will just get killed. But also, there were sanderlings, ruddy turnstones, black belly plovers and a dozen other species that don’t stay there. They’re moving, and they’re migrating through. They come—they winter as far south as southern South America. They nest across the Canadian tundra and in the High Arctic. They’re some of the longest- distance migrants in the world. They cannot do that unless their fathers are working. And if their feathers are sticking together, they’re not going to be able to make it. They don’t have the energy to get to where they’re going to go. So they’re going to be dropping out along the way. The other thing is you have peregine falcons that are coming across from the Yucatan on their way to breeding grounds in the Arctic—excuse me—and as far away as Greenland. They will be selectively picking off these birds that are compromised. So they will be getting higher doses of oil. So this is just a horrible place to have something like this happening, because it’s such a concentration point for animals that move.

AMY GOODMAN: What about the question of bombing the actual—where the leak is coming from? Some say BP doesn’t want to do it, because then they would have to rebuild if they would ever get to offshore drill again. But what effect would that have?

CARL SAFINA: Oh, well, I’m not a—you know, I’m not a drilling technologist, and I don’t know if it would work. But actually, bombing part of the sea floor right there, I think, would have no real ecological effect other than the noise, which would affect marine mammals like dolphins and whales. But, you know, one or two blasts, I think, if it shut the oil off, would probably have been worth trying. But I don’t know if that would work. AMY GOODMAN: Who do you think should be in charge of this operation, this cleanup operation?

CARL SAFINA: Well, BP had a lease to drill. They did not have a lease to pollute the Gulf of Mexico. They did not have a lease to blow oil into the environment. They did not have a lease to disperse the oil and try to hide the body. They don’t have a lease to clean up. They don’t have a lease to make the fishermen sick. They don’t have a lease to tell the United States, "We’ll keep using a dispersant that’s banned in Europe, even though you’re telling us to stop using it." They should have been shoved out of the way on day two. And there should have been a war council of all the other oil companies that know how to drill to focus on stopping the oil from coming out of the hole. And then BP’s responsibility—they are responsible, but they obviously don’t know what to do, and they can’t do it, and they’re not doing it. Their responsibility should be what they’re good at: pay money. Pay money to the United States. They’re on our property. They’re in our water. They’re making our people sick. They’re destroying our wildlife. Pay money and have the United States take over.

JUAN GONZALEZ: This whole issue of drilling in areas so deep that if there is an accident you cannot really get there to fix it, what is it—you know, to me, it’s almost like Three Mile Island or Chernobyl. It’s like you never—you were guaranteeing people that it would never happen, but once it happens once, you realize the potential catastrophe that you are creating through this process. What is your sense of the future of ocean drilling, in terms of what this has told the rest of the people of the United States and the world?

CARL SAFINA: Right, well, there have been other blowouts, and there have been major oil spills. It’s different than Chernobyl because we know it happens. It happens. It’s happened before. It will happen again. And it’s happening right now. So, you know, and obviously they didn’t have any backup plan. It’s as if having poked 30,000 holes into the sea floor of the Gulf of Mexico and have 5,000 rigs operating, it never occurred to them to say, "Oh, what if oil starts coming out of one of those holes, like it has in other places at other times?" They were completely unprepared. They don’t have the equipment. They don’t have booms that can work in open water. And what the obvious take-home message is, we don’t know how to do this. We can poke the hole. We don’t know how to deal with some things that we know happen, because they’ve happened. But people have not developed the technology or warehoused the tools or created booms that work in ocean swell conditions or any of that stuff. We’re trying to wring the last drops out of a depleting resource. And this really needs to be the pivotal moment where we say oil is declining, we need a national energy policy that looks past oil. You know, BP, at one time they said that their name meant "beyond petroleum." Now it’s "beyond pathetic." But we really need to get past oil.

AMY GOODMAN: What about "beyond prosecution"? Are they? And should they be held criminally liable?

CARL SAFINA: Of course they’re criminally responsible. They were trying to hurry up. When you have an argument on a rig about how fast to go and what to do, you don’t tell people, "Just hurry it up." I mean, this is absolutely criminal. And I think that—you know, we’re still asking, "Oh, can we go in? Can we use respirators?" This is insane.

AMY GOODMAN: The Atlantis, deepwater offshore drilling site, has that been shut down, which dwarfs the Horizon Deepwater?

CARL SAFINA: Actually, I don’t know if that’s still going on or has been shut down.

AMY GOODMAN: Has all offshore drilling been shut down? No?

CARL SAFINA: No, not at all. And in fact, unfortunately, the Obama administration, I think, blew it on the high ground here. You know, there was Sarah Palin, "drill, baby, drill," right? So we don’t want that; we elect Obama. And then what happens is we get "drill, baby, drill." That’s what we got. We got a stepped-up effort to eliminate the ban on offshore drilling that was, what, a couple of generations old. And now they’re stuck with that, because, of course, nobody wants to actually do the smart thing and say, "Oh, you know what? We made a mistake," because then, oh, they’ve lost face. So, oh, we can’t lose face. The obvious right thing is the drilling ban was the right thing to do. The drilling ban is the right thing to do. We don’t know how to take care of these problems. We need to stop it. We need to make this a pivotal moment and have a national energy policy for the first time that gets beyond this and phases out fossil fuels, which kill people, make people sick and detroy the environment.

AMY GOODMAN: We want to thank you very much for being with us, Carl Safina, founding president of the Blue Ocean Institute. He has written a number of books, including Song for the Blue Ocean.

www.democracynow.org/2010...cal_impact_of_spill_could


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-30   22:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: wudidiz (#56)

Good post however he sidesteps one of the key issues: How do you plug the hole, and what happens if the holes are not plugged and they keep pumping out millions of gallons of oil?

He is right in that BP is "trying to hide the body", but it appears that it is plural i.e., bodies since there are now 3 holes and their attempt to cap the smallest one failed - again.

So, we are still left with an unresolved promblem - made worse by the use of highly toxic dispersants.

The other 800 pound Gorilla is the several mile wide plume of heavier petroleum which is stretching out in deep water too heavy to rise to the surface.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-30   22:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: abraxas (#24)

100-pound hailstones fell.

Ouch.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-30   22:54:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: wudidiz (#56)

We want to thank you very much for being with us, Carl Safina,

And we want to thank you, Amy, for failing to remind us how much dough 'Bama got from British Petroleum.

Expropriate British Petroleum.

randge  posted on  2010-05-30   22:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: randge (#59)

Yeah, but she does bring up huge elephants that other MSM ignores completely:

What About Israels Arsenal? Part 2 - 4-14-2010 Democracy NOW!

She talks about Obama claiming to be for reducing nukes while ignoring Israel.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   23:21:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: wudidiz (#56)

Thanks Wud......I thought I heard him talkin' tuna.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-30   23:31:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Original_Intent, christine, wudidiz, Horse (#0)

I'm beginning to wonder if this is an act of Israel and/or the Rothchilds in order to show Obama and Congress what they can do if they don't get their way.

Look at the "Investigate the FED" matter for instance, or Obama's apparent loss of love for Israel as of the past several months, where the Israelis appear insulted that Obama didn't kiss their ass enough for their liking.

They wanted to remind everyone who the boss is perhaps.

This could all be an act of terrorism that IS being committed by the same people who REALLY brought us 9/11.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-05-31   2:34:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: FormerLurker (#62)

And the Goldman Sachs investigation is over.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-31   2:59:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: farmfriend, original_intent (#23)

good grief. outstanding article, with the Revelations verse sending it over the top. Chilling!!

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-05-31   10:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: abraxas, wudidiz (#41)

speaking of 2012 i watched it last night. but amanda peet, the lead, is a truly disgusting shill for vaccines. her pop in law was head of fed. reserve bank of NY.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-05-31   10:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Artisan (#65)

I like Cusak, but I haven't seen 2012. Hollywood has long been a propaganda arm for Zionist interests. Long ago, they went after Marlon Brando and not much has changed since then. Sigh.

The prophecy, both Revelation and the Hopi, re: oil and this spill is eery.......

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   10:43:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: FormerLurker (#62)

I'm beginning to wonder if this is an act of Israel and/or the Rothchilds in order to show Obama and Congress what they can do if they don't get their way.

I know Jeff Rense floated that as a speculation the other day as well. Hard to say from the available evidence, but there are hints that not all occurred as has been misrepresented.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   12:52:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: abraxas (#66)

I like Cusak, but I haven't seen 2012.

Movie was full of stunts that make you say, "oh yeah right, like they could actually do that."


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-31   12:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: FormerLurker (#62)

I'm beginning to wonder if this is an act of Israel and/or the Rothchilds in order to show Obama and Congress what they can do if they don't get their way.

Look at the "Investigate the FED" matter for instance, or Obama's apparent loss of love for Israel as of the past several months, where the Israelis appear insulted that Obama didn't kiss their ass enough for their liking.

They wanted to remind everyone who the boss is perhaps.

This could all be an act of terrorism that IS being committed by the same people who REALLY brought us 9/11.

Some folks would say that's over the top, Lurker.

I'd say that you are right on the money.

They are lashing out HARD in all directions.

Expropriate British Petroleum.

randge  posted on  2010-05-31   13:43:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Original_Intent, christine (#3)

I think it should be clear at this point that Buckie is a paid poster whose function is to disrupt.

C'mon, Original_Intent, join the dark side with me. We have bikini clad women at our beckon call, all the narcotics you can reasonably handle, cars, homes and yes it is true .... piles of freshly printed cash by Ben Bernarke, himself. Plus and on top of the day to day working benefits just described, we receive an attractive incentive and bonus plan that sometimes dwarfs our petty salary package, which is meaningless in contrast.

Why, I am shaded under a grove of palm trees while laying in my hammock gently swaying in the cool breeze while I am receiving both a pedicure and a manicure by HUGE breasted women right now. In fact, they are peeling the tender skin off my grapes as we chit chat right now and popping the same into mouth!

No worries on this side of the fence. Life is good! Join us before our recruiting quota is filled up by tomorrow ...... we all receive unlimited capability to cast as many votes as we feel fit to perform and there is no income taxes to pay. Time is running out!

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:01:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Original_Intent, bluegrass (#10)

..... are minimizing the problem, repeating the government propaganda, and otherwise ignoring it.

Actually, I brought forward a chronological list of similar disasters MAXIMIZING your awareness of the problem.

It is because of PEAK OIL and the modern technological problems attempting to mine and distribute the energy that America and much of the world is dependent on.

Since you are braindead to PEAK OIL phenomena, you accuse every tom, dick and harry for the same or similar issue on a case by case basis when you "feel" you can justify your complaints. I thought the initial content of your thread was actually humourous since you side-stepped the ROOT-CAUSE of FAILURE while selectively tackling one example of the phenomena (BTW, this Gulf coast issue is NOT the WORLD's largest oil disaster, thus far).

You have to look at the BIG PICTURE to understand methods to correct, modify or otherwise change the problem. Unfortunately, you won't or you can't. In either case, you are looking more and more like a mere windbag doomed to pointing your finger at anyone but yourself.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: abraxas (#66)

2012

It's fun for no other reason than to watch California slide into the ocean. Whenever I'm having a bad day, I can run the first hour or so of the movie and it picks my spirits right up.

Or just enjoy a bowl of popcorn and watch the fun! Any way that Cali can slide into the ocean is completely fine with me.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-05-31   14:27:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Original_Intent (#20)

By limiting information they control what people know and are aware of and how they will react. If the general public really had a grasp of how truly truly serious this is there would be marches on Washington DEMANDING that it be handled and HANDLED NOW.

Let's keep the "general publick" informed and that is what is going on. Feel free to go to Washington and organize a rally. Get the steam off in publick instead of a chit-chat channel on the Internet as it would be good for you to get out and see the world hasn't stopped.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:32:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Samuel Gray, abraxas (#72)

Any way that Cali can slide into the ocean is completely fine with me.

Hey! Watch it buddy. LOL


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-31   14:32:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Samuel Gray (#72)

2012

My interest is perked........are there shots of Pelosi and Boxer going over the edge? : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   14:36:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: FormerLurker (#62)

I'm beginning to wonder if this is an act of Israel and/or the Rothchilds in order to show Obama and Congress what they can do if they don't get their way.

C'mon ..... you are pulling everyone's leg.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:42:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Artisan (#65)

speaking of 2012 ...

You believe that crap?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:43:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: abraxas (#66)

The prophecy, both Revelation and the Hopi, re: oil and this spill is eery.......

Where do you receive your knowledge that is is the end of the world AND that this oil tragedy is a direct connection, thereof? Are you GOD's mouthpiece or just another comedic scriptwriter looking for a job?

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:46:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: farmfriend, Samuel Gray (#74)

Hey! Watch it buddy. LOL

He's only talking about San Fran and LA--right Sam? .......and only when Pelosi and Boxer are around. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   14:46:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#78)

I posted both prophecies--read them yourself. There are only nine given by the Hopi and 7 have come to pass........

The only predictions that I will make is that you're already chugging down the sterno today. : )

Bottoms up, Buckie.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   14:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Original_Intent (#67)

I know Jeff Rense floated that as a speculation the other day as well.

There it is absolute PROOF that the Rothschilds or Israeli commandos (or someone, ANYONE) sabotaged the Deepwater platform.

This is an election year in the US .... remember, the saboteur could have been the Democratic/Republican Party attempting to snag one or more chads at the voting booth this year.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:50:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: abraxas, Samuel Gray (#79)

He's only talking about San Fran and LA--right Sam? .......and only when Pelosi and Boxer are around. : )

Well I could include the rich mansions on the coast in the deal. I would love it if Barbara's house slid.


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-31   14:50:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: abraxas (#80)

But, you interpreted recent events as though you are the RIGHT HAND of GOD, himself. How did you do it with so much clarity and divine inspiration?

I posted both prophecies--read them yourself. There are only nine given by the Hopi and 7 have come to pass........

Those damned Hopi Indians ... they made up more enumerated "end of the world" prophecies than in the Book of Revelations. Why did they do it? What could have caused this? I hear they enjoyed peyote an awful lot.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   14:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo, christine, Cynicom, farmfriend, CadetD, Rotara, TwentyTwelve, James Deffenbach, Eric Stratton, Jethro Tull, HOUNDDAWG, bluegrass, Kamala, Deacon Benjamin, HappyToBeMe-4um, Itistoolate, Esso, Shoonra, all (#71)

Poor Buckie - as always a day late and a brick shy.

Your list, however you try to paper it over, was a clear attempt to obscure the impact of the article. Which a "little bird" has informed me has gone viral so it is now circulating the web independent of your feeble disinfo tactics.

And again you try to divert, no this is not yet the world's largest volume of released oil, but as of today both Bee Pee and the Oh'bummer Maladministration have admitted that they have no clue how to stop it. And again the estimate of 2.9 million gallons per day from just ONE of the THREE points of eruption. The actual rate of flow, including the large hole 5 to 6 miles from the most publicized site, is not included in that estimate. One estimate I read in the London Times places the flow rate as high as 4.2 million gallons per day. At that flow rate the discharge into the gulf has already exceeded, by about 30 MILLION gallons (and it was in shallow water and still took 9 months to shut down) the previous largest gusher in the gulf, and at this time there is no known plan to stop it from continuing to flow. If the current extrapolations are correct, and they are admittedly estimates, the volume released will have exceeded 500 MILLION gallons (and again the gas flow is treble the oil flow) by August which is what the Oh'bummer Maladministration pulled out of their *** as their next expected time to try and plug it. And this is before factoring in the damage being done by the corexit oil dispersant being used promiscuously by Bee Pee to hide the scale of the oil eruption. Corexit is rated as 4 times more toxic than the oil and has a vaporization point low enough to be picked up and carried inland by rain clouds.

You can try to minimize and divert from the likely affects of this man made cataclysm, but I won't let you get away with it.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   14:59:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: abraxas, buggeroo, buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, farmfriend, all (#80)

Bottoms up, Buckie.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   15:03:10 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: buckeroo (#83)

But, you interpreted recent events as though you are the RIGHT HAND of GOD, himself

Yeah, that's the ticket....to the sane I merely posted a couple of prophecies that I DIDN'T write or claim to have written, but somehow this is misconstrued by the buckeroo as the RIGHT HAND OF GOD.

Is there a direct correlation between the amount of sterno pumping in your veins and the level of drama you spew? Why, yes, I think this could easily be proven.

Yep, for the Hopi the peyote........for Buckeroo the sterno. Either way, an increase in dramatics is duly noted.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   15:03:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: abraxas (#79)

Well, yeah, the whole place sinks into the ocean, probably all the way up to the Rockies. Yellowstone let go, Vegas sank into a Dantean hell in the desert, but the California destruction scenes were primarily of LA and Hollywood biting the big one.

The big earthquake came as the Governator said "ve sink ze vorst is ofa"

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-05-31   15:05:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: abraxas (#86)

God knows I've done my part to try and get him interested in tracking down yuktard, Mad Dog, etc, and wreaking a little creative mayhem (just for fun...of course), but he's sticking with the diatribes.

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-05-31   15:06:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Samuel Gray (#88)

God knows

Be careful, Sam, I think you may be construed as the LEFT HAND OF GOD. lol

I've enjoyed that creative mayhem myself. : )

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   15:13:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: abraxas (#89)

LEFT HAND OF GOD

He's gotta have someone to do his righteous dirty work, may as well be me, eh?

And that particular pair are a blight on the internet and their online voices should be silenced for the good of all.

See? I've already ennobled my cause by invoking god and the common good.

Besides, your choices are sinister (left) and rectus (right), and the latter sounds like yukie and MD...also sounds like 'rectum', or asshole, which fits them to a (*)

Samuel Gray  posted on  2010-05-31   15:18:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Original_Intent (#84)

Your list, however you try to paper it over, was a clear attempt to obscure the impact of the article.

Whoops that was no "article" it was a biased, opinion puffpiece based on obscure sources designed to TROLL ....

And again you try to divert, no this is not yet the world's largest volume of released oil...

Wrong. It happened during the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait by the Iraqis as they left Kuwait in retreat (1991). You just don't remember the issue (perhaps you were out gardening?) The next largest tragic event happened in the Gulf of Mexico (only 150 feet of drilling) in 1980 called the Ixtoc platform. That was before the WWW so we could not read about your puff pieces, as well.

You can try to minimize and divert from the likely affects of this man made cataclysm, but I won't let you get away with it.

If anyone on 4um has consistently and intelligently discussed, man made issues are rampant everywhere leading to modern messes ... it has been myself. You have always chosen he flip-side of the discussion attempting to suggest some form of silly cause by some made-up sinister, backroom conspiracy either in government, outer-space or some other group of men with far-out capabilities.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   15:21:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: buckeroo, ORiginal_Intent, abraxas, Lod (#91)

The next largest tragic event happened in the Gulf of Mexico (only 150 feet of drilling) in 1980 called the Ixtoc platform.

Here is an current NPR write uP.

One Gulf Oil Spill Went For Nearly A Year

(Blogger's note: This post was changed from from an earlier version to correct a factual error in the size and rank of the Exxon Valdez oil spill. Also, the IXTOC 1 accident occurred June 3, 1979, not 1980.)

By Frank James

If it winds up taking months, the better part of a year or longer for experts to finally stop the flow of oil into the Gulf of Mexico from the uncontrolled well head left by the destroyed Deepwater Horizon, there's precedent for that.

It was an oil platform called IXTOC 1 which was in the Gulf of Mexico about 600 miles south of Texas in the Bay of Campeche. The accident occurred June 3, 1979 when a two-mile exploratory well blew out. What happened next sounds similar to what happened on the Deepwater Horizon.

The IXTOC 1 accident is considered the world's second worst oil spill with 140 million gallons of oil released into the waters. The worst was the oil spill into the Persian Gulf as a result of the 1991 Gulf War against Saddam Hussein's Iraq when Iraqi troops opened the Kuwaiti oil field valves which allowed as much as an estimated 520 million gallons of crude to flow into the Gulf.

The sinking of the Exxon Valdez in Alaska's Prince William Sound spilled an estimated 10.8 million gallons, making it the worst spill in U.S. history.

From a description on a National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration website:

The oil and gas blowing out of the well ignited, causing the platform to catch fire. The burning platform collapsed into the wellhead area hindering any immediate attempts to control the blowout. PEMEX hired blowout control experts and other spill control experts including Red Adair, Martech International of Houston, and the Mexican diving company, Daivaz. The Martech response included 50 personnel on site, the remotely operated vehicle TREC, and the submersible Pioneer I. The TREC attempted to find a safe approach to the Blowout Preventer (BOP). The approach was complicated by poor visibility and debris on the seafloor including derrick wreckage and 3000 meters of drilling pipe. Divers were eventually able to reach and activate the BOP, but the pressure of the oil and gas caused the valves to begin rupturing. The BOP was reopened to prevent destroying it. Two relief wells were drilled to relieve pressure from the well to allow response personnel to cap it. Norwegian experts were contracted to bring in skimming equipment and containment booms, and to begin cleanup of the spilled oil. The IXTOC I well continued to spill oil at a rate of 10,000 - 30,000 barrels per day until it was finally capped on March 23, 1980. Keyword: Boom, Corexit 9527, skimmer, manual removal, volunteers, blowout, fire, evaporation, blowout preventer, relief well, submersible..

Some key points to take away from this: It took nearly 10 months for the responders to stop the oil from flowing in the IXTOC 1 accident. And this was a well that was in only about 164 feet of water. That allowed divers to be sent down to cap the well.

The Deepwater Horizon wellhead is under 5000 feet of water. That is nearly double the depth at which atmospheric diving suits and manned submersibles can operate.

Technology has obviously advanced immensely during the past 30 years. Still, the story of the IXTOC 1 is sobering considering how far under the gulf this well is and the difficulty that are being encountered by the crews operating in what can be a very hostile environment. And hurricane season is only weeks away.

The Associated Press had a report on the comparisons being made between the IXTOC 1 spill and the current accident and why the Deepwater Horizon spill has so many experts worried.

An excerpt:

Most Americans think of Exxon Valdez when it comes to spills. But the potential and likelihood here "is well beyond that," said University of Rhode Island ocean engineering professor Malcolm Spaulding. Because the Deepwater Horizon well has not been capped and may flow for months more, it should be compared to a bigger more dangerous one from a well explosion in 1979, said Tunnell. That was Ixtoc 1, off the coast of Mexico. It was the worst peacetime oil spill on record.

The current spill "is kind of a worst case scenario," Tunnell said.

What makes this spill relentless and most similar to Ixtoc 1 is that it's an active well that keeps flowing. The Exxon Valdez was a tanker with a limited supply of oil. The rig 40 miles from the Gulf Coast may leak for months before a relief well can be drilled to stop the flow, Kinner said.

And LSU's Overton said: "I'm not very optimistic that they'll be drilling a relief well in three months."

The type of oil involved is also a major problem. While most of the oil drilled off Louisiana is a lighter crude, this isn't. It's a heavier blend because it comes from deep under the ocean surface, Overton said.

"If I had to pick a bad oil, I'd put this right up there. The only thing that's not bad about this is that it doesn't have a lot of sulfur in it and the high sulfur really smells bad."


"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-05-31   15:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: abraxas (#86)

Yep, for the Hopi the peyote........for Buckeroo the sterno. Either way, an increase in dramatics is duly noted.

LOL!!!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-31   15:41:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Original_Intent (#0)

We're certainly heading into, if we're indeed not in already, the days which the Word of God describes very vividly as being very bad...


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-05-31   15:44:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: farmfriend (#92)

I am drawing parallels in history towards OI's puffpiece. He seem s to think that this is the first and only time in mankind's recent history wherein a disaster of HUGE proportions has happened.

You know that old expression, don't you? Rhetorically, Those who forget the mistakes of the past are doomed to repeat them.

And some of the folks on 4um (like OI) doesn't believe PEAK OIL phenomena. Yet, when asked time and again, he doesn't respond with reasons for these modern adventurous, applied technologies other than it is some sort of conspiracy.

He doesn't know how to parse through the details and stitch the SERIOUS problems together. Such ashame... he really has capability but is lost in mania of a Sherlock Holmes novel about "whodunnit" never realizing he is part of the problem AND never providing a solution.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   15:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: farmfriend (#92)

What makes this spill relentless and most similar to Ixtoc 1 is that it's an active well that keeps flowing. The Exxon Valdez was a tanker with a limited supply of oil. The rig 40 miles from the Gulf Coast may leak for months before a relief well can be drilled to stop the flow, Kinner said.

Key Differences:

1. Ixtoc was at 160 feet not 5,000 and the flow rate was less than 1/3.

2. It was diver accessible.

3. The pressure at the wellhead was probably less. How much more pressure this one has is indeterminate, but we can observe from the videos that at 5000 feet depth, and much much greater water pressure from the column of water, that it is still spurting out in a high pressure eruption.

4. There was only 1 hole not 3.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   16:09:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Original_Intent, christine, earthchild, SonofLiberty, abraxas, TwentyTwelve, Dakmar, James Deffenbach, gengis gandhi, Arator, Horse, randge, wudidiz, ada, scrapper2, farmfriend, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, all (#84) (Edited)

And this is before factoring in the damage being done by the corexit oil dispersant being used promiscuously by Bee Pee to hide the scale of the oil eruption. Corexit is rated as 4 times more toxic than the oil and has a vaporization point low enough to be picked up and carried inland by rain clouds.

O_I, I know that you are taking the high road approach with all of these ego-surfer trolls and useless yappers, but feeding the chirping baby birds when they are already full of s#!+ only causes more vomiting! 8=>

It is important to emphasize that it is not simply about the number of gallons gushing in comparison to other "spills" around the world.

It is the fact that the ongoing oil volcano(es) and the wanton Corexit dumping-for-profit is happening in one of the richest and most bio-diverse ecosystems on the planet, with impact upon a dense population (compared to Alaska, for example), all under the control of a multi-national corporation, enabled by Obeyme intervening and in effect waiving regulatory requirements by quashing the legal challenge, allowing BP to exercise their lease!

If I lease a prime piece of property, then set it on fire, do I have the authority to keep the fire department from taking over the authority for putting out the fire I started? ?????

What is truly alarming (for those awake) is how this nightmare reveals a dark design in its slow-motion insanity, that as bad as the ecological disaster is, there is an even more disastrous oligarchic hegemony at work, brazen tyranny at work in broad daylight, smugly confident in being completely unaccountable for their ongoing rape!

There is nothing hidden, which shall not be openly seen; nor anything secret, which shall not be known and come into the light of day - Mark 4:22/Luke 8:17

Even for those of us who understand that all darkness must be illuminated to be known and dispersed, it is still nauseating to see the walking corpse face to face....

Meanwhile, the MSM spin control wobbles back and forth:

On the one hand, pretending to be concerned about the "issue", BUT presenting any scientists and knowledgeable people providing rational information (the true possible impact) only as fringe reports, truly dire consequences being "out-of-the-herd-of-possibility" unless they can be taken advantage of to enable even more federal control and further dismantle the rule of law in our reeling republic!

On the other hand, soothing the massMind with the mantra of: "nothing to see here, Obama is on top of it, business as usual, go back to your Walmart shopping".

How fortunate for the would-be world-controllers that Israhell just killed some brave civilians to take our minds off this false flag eco-sabotage, before the MSM spin becomes too obvious and annoying enough to irritate the people into awareness....

No worries, the latest outrage from Izzy will be neatly scripted into the 62-year ongoing narrative of lies upon which the modern, bankster-run interlocking prison depends. The mass Mind is fully conditioned in this story and should go back to sleep on cue...


Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when the FEAR card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ruins of the totalitarian game!

HighLairEon  posted on  2010-05-31   16:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Rotara, farmfriend, abraxas, all (#94)

We're certainly heading into, if we're indeed not in already, the days which the Word of God describes very vividly as being very bad...

Ditto Hopi, Zuni, Aztec, Maya, and Sioux Prophecy - not to mention Nicolai Nostradamus.

I think the key word is "IN" and I think we entered into it early this year. The next few years are going to be verrrrrrrry rough. We will emerge on the other side but the world is going to become a very changed place in just a few years time.

I am guessing it will not begin to abate before 2014 and we will not really be coming out of it before 2015.

May the good Lord bless you and keep you, and everyone else on 4um.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   16:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: HighLairEon (#97)

If I lease a prime piece of property, then set it on fire, do I have the authority to keep the fire department from taking over the authority for putting out the fire I started? ?????

Only if your name is Rothschild.

What is truly alarming (for those awake) is how this nightmare reveals a dark design in its slow-motion insanity, that as bad as the ecological disaster is, there is an even more disastrous oligarchic hegemony at work, brazen tyranny at work in broad daylight, smugly confident in being completely unaccountable for their ongoing rape!

I think their psychoses and fear drove them too far this time. Once people really begin to grasp the true and likely impact of this event they will begin getting scared. In the meantime I intend to plant as many truth bombs as I can so that they will be able to recognize the authors of this catastrophe. The piece heading this thread I am proud to report, per a PM from someone connected, has gone viral. That's a start.

The only reason I ever pay any attention to trolls is simply to negate their attempts at spinning away from and/or confusing the truth. By eviscerating the spin it lessens its affects. If there is nothing to be gained I just ignore them and spit in the gutter.

Meanwhile, the MSM spin control wobbles back and forth:

On the one hand, pretending to be concerned about the "issue", BUT presenting any scientists and knowledgeable people providing rational information (the true possible impact) only as fringe reports, truly dire consequences being "out-of-the-herd-of-possibility" unless they can be taken advantage of to enable even more federal control and further dismantle the rule of law in our reeling republic!

The usual PsyOp tactic - a variation on damning with faint praise combined with a Strawman. Present the truth as unconvincingly as possible and then bring in an "expert" to dismantle the strawman. They do it all the time and the general public having no schooling in logic and rhetoric lap it right up without a filter or Bullshit Alarm going off.

On the other hand, soothing the massMind with the mantra of: "nothing to see here, Obama is on top of it, business as usual, go back to your Walmart shopping".

Exactly. "All is well. All is well. Go back to Fuutboll Big Brother is watching over you." Of course "Big Brother" is a Bloodsucking Demon, but I digress.

Good thing Israhell killed some brave civilians to take our minds off this false flag eco-sabotage, before the MSM spin becomes too obvious and annoying!

Convenient how that occurred isn't it? I bet Bibi had a fit when he was given that order. However, to the Rothschilds and their ilk, Israel is just a pawn to be used and sacrificed as needed. Note that the Rothschilds still live in London.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   16:33:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: HighLairEon, Original_Intent (#97) (Edited)

darn it...my computer got too hot and i lost everything on it...am trying to get caught up.

has anyone seen this: MICROBES TO THE RESCUE

Gulf Oil Spill-Gutsy Solution Restores Environment in Just Six Weeks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...1tI&feature=youtube_gdata

first saw it here: http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2...6-weeks-get-word-out.html

===============

edit.

bible.cc/isaiah/54-17.htm / bible.cc/galatians/3-29.htm

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-05-31   17:30:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Original_Intent (#100)

darn it...my computer got too hot and i lost everything on it...am trying to get caught up.

has anyone seen this: MICROBES TO THE RESCUE

Gulf Oil Spill-Gutsy Solution Restores Environment in Just Six Weeks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8...1tI&feature=youtube_gdata

first saw it here: http://nesaranews.blogspot.com/2...6-weeks-get-word-out.html

Good video on bio-remediation. Note the date mentioned in the video that this was tested and known: 1989!

The only problem is, it has become abundantly clear that cleaning up the oil and mitigating the environmental crisis is not the real goal of those in control; instead it is disaster for fun, profit and increased draconian powers for the elites in control of the federal bureaucracies (not to mention population-culling for ease of control).

This crisis is not a human technology problem, it is a political crisis, a conflict between top-down control versus freedom. It is not the result of a lack of human know-how but a lack of awareness and courage, a result of the failure of the will and spirit to be free.

It is now in our faces; time to wake up and smell the corruption...


Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when the FEAR card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ruins of the totalitarian game!

HighLairEon  posted on  2010-05-31   18:22:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: HighLairEon, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#101)

Nicely summarized. Anything I could add would simply detract from it's pungent brevity.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   18:30:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: HighLairEon (#101)

This crisis is not a human technology problem, it is a political crisis, a conflict between top-down control versus freedom. It is not the result of a lack of human know-how but a lack of awareness and courage, a result of the failure of the will and spirit to be free.

Meanwhile about 40+ years have elapse since these same or similar tragedies have occurred and its political? And it has occurred around the world under most energy coming nations watch?

Whoops! Sounds like a cog is stuck in your attention span.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   19:37:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Original_Intent (#102)

Nicely summarized. Anything I could add would simply detract from it's pungent brevity.

Thanks!

I assume that the adjective "pungent" does not connote that brevity stinks! 8=>


Anger? as a first reaction to get your a$$ moving, once you see through the Media Matrix and set yourself free from your lifelong mind control collar. Sustainable? not enough to screen your intention to be free from the Talosians, who can’t read primitive emotions but know what you watch on cable/sat, read on the Internet and eat. Our ultimate weapon is laughter and amused detachment at the folly of the would-be emperors. Fear mongers HATE it when the FEAR card doesn’t work. The humiliation of being seen as merely a naked ape is THEIR big fear. Laugh the bastards off the stage! Tell your friends that we can build a real civilization from the ruins of the totalitarian game!

HighLairEon  posted on  2010-05-31   19:39:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: HighLairEon, Original_Intent (#101)

my computer is running slow. i couldn't get back on-line until just now after i posted that. ...and i have my fan up full blast to keep my computer cool, and couldn't hear all of the video. what would it take, i wonder, for we, the people, to buy up those microbes and take them down there ourselves?

hmmm...it still doesn't want to go...i'll just keep hitting preview i guess....it should go one of these days.

btw, Henry Makow thinks it's an Illuminati event:

Henry Makow: Oil Spill = Illuminati's Covert War On America thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=12t40 [I typed the url; hope I got it right]

It's still not going. This is off the subject, but this guy thinks they'll be bringing in Project Blue Beam next: Von Braun: Illuminati Plan for E.T. Deception thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID-12754 I think they're getting desperate, pulling out all the stops, and I personally think it all has to do with the Sovereign movement, people cutting themselves loose from the banksters' debt piled on America. I heard there are 25 million secured party creditors in America now. [or more]. I think the oil spill may have been their Samson Option. Remember what Rothschild said: "That government must be destroyed or it will destroy every monarchy on the continent." [Psalm 2.]

"...as long as there..remain active enemies of the Christian church, we may hope to become Master of the World...the future Jewish King will never reign in the world before Christianity is overthrown - B'nai B'rith speech http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htm / http://bible.cc/psalms/83-4.htm

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2010-05-31   19:39:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: FormerLurker, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#105)

...Henry Makow thinks it's an Illuminati event...

ping.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-05-31   19:44:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: FormerLurker (#62)

Look at the "Investigate the FED" matter for instance, or Obama's apparent loss of love for Israel

You don't really believe that Obama actually ever HAD any "love for Israel," do you? He's a Moslem you know. Most of them don't really like Israel all that much.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-31   20:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: buckeroo (#71)

Since you are braindead to PEAK OIL phenomena

Maybe it's because there is no "peak oil phenomena." It's like that "global warming" bs you are always on about. Lord Monckton has destroyed that stupid theory time and again and has invited Al Gore to debate him but Al is "too busy." uh huh. He knows Monckton would tear him a new one in front of the world, that's why he won't debate him.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-31   20:23:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: James Deffenbach (#107)

You don't really believe that Obama actually ever HAD any "love for Israel," do you?

Hell, Yes.........he knows where the name Goldman originates. Dog n' pony show on any audit of the fed. Look at no bank regulation a year down the road. Look at the billions that continue to go to Israel. Look at how he takes Nuttyyahoo making a fool of him over building on Pali land.

In the end, Obama is a corporate whore.....a puppet and no more. And who sits on the corporate boards?

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   20:29:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: James Deffenbach (#108)

Maybe it's because there is no "peak oil phenomena."

OK ... O_I refuses to answer the question, so it is your turn.... why do we see increasing technological investment into oil mining in riskier and risker places?

Lord Monckton has destroyed that stupid theory [global warming] time and again ...

Not true. What Monckton portrayed was the foolishness of the UN to attempt to bribe the the wealthier UN nations to pay the poorer nations about a phenomena that very well may a function of natural inputs, which was correct. He was (is) well aware of the changes that are on-going about the planet.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   20:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: abraxas (#109)

In the end, Obama is a corporate whore.....a puppet and no more.

I agree with that but I still don't believe he has any love for Israel.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-31   20:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: buckeroo (#110)

Monckton has shown that the theory is insane and that folks like Al Gore are in it for the money.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-05-31   20:40:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: HighLairEon (#104)

I assume that the adjective "pungent" does not connote that brevity stinks! 8=>

LOL! First you are welcome and second no. Rather more the events which we are assessing. ;-)

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-05-31   20:51:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: James Deffenbach (#111)

I agree with that but I still don't believe he has any love for Israel.

Love of fascism.......is that a great variance of degree? Personally, I don't think so. Remember, he's a Marxist and Marx was Mordecai before his name change.

All those speeches to the Arab world have proven to be no more than lip service as he sends drones to kill civilians. There has been no change in ME policy from Bush, rather a smooth transition.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   20:53:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: James Deffenbach (#112)

Monckton has shown that the theory is insane and that folks like Al Gore are in it for the money.

He is correct when both green fanatics and government zealots suggest that global warming phenomena is strictly a function of anthropogenic causes. It makes no sense to tax people over "hot-aire" something that I have suggested time and again.

But make no error in recognizing that global warming phenomena is correlated with HUGE human population increases over the past 160 years. And don't mistake the same being coincident with the Industrial Revolution that everyone holds dear to their quality of life.

This thread is about O_I's zealous concern about the deepwater problem today. He fails to realize that the world has polluted through time, over a BILLION barrels of oil (a thousand times deepwater) into the oceans just because of distribution and mining errors.

The REAL problems are the continuous pelting of abuse by mankind upon the environment. It is amazing to me, how resilient the ecosystem really is; but, there is a threshold where this same abuse shall destroy the planet. It just isn't today as O_I seems to claim.

"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   20:55:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: buckeroo (#77)

no. i'm Catholic, i don't believe some Mayan voodoo about the end of days. i also don't believe the government's bullshit story about 911 either, as you unfortunately do.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-01   16:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: buckeroo, Original_Intent (#115)

This thread is about O_I's zealous concern about the deepwater problem today. He fails to realize that the world has polluted through time, over a BILLION barrels of oil (a thousand times deepwater) into the oceans just because of distribution and mining errors.

I think, as OI has said, we may be talking about TRILLIONS of gallons.


“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-09   4:35:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: Original_Intent (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"You've got to put right and wrong above legal and illegal. Because when tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty; and it is not rebellion at all, it is submission to the higher law that our government is in rebellion to. We're not the rebels, they're the rebels."

Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-06-09   18:04:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: RickyJ (#0)

Ping. Note the date I posted this. It has taken a little longer than I thought it would but otherwise the predictions stand. As well the toxic dispersant used sank the oil to the Gulf floor preventing it from exiting the Gulf in one large glob.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2013-04-30   23:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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