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Title: Flotilla passengers attack IDF when they drop in on them........
Source: you tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo&feature=player_embedded
Published: May 31, 2010
Author: Israeli Propaganda Machine
Post Date: 2010-05-31 22:14:15 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 1414
Comments: 86

Making the case for murdering the passengers as the IDF was just dropping in to say "hi" to them all.......

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#4. To: all (#0)

The MSM conveniently leaves out the fact that the IDF botched the operation, not unlike the ATF did WACO. Rather that drop down as a unit, they came down one by one, in a staggered way. It's logical to assume the first few who came aboard began shooting, thus leaving the passengers with one option to save their lives; fight them as they descended, or die. Who in their right mind wouldn't attack blood thirsty terrorists repelling from a helicopter?

Jethro Tull  posted on  2010-05-31   22:21:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Jethro Tull (#4)

Rather that drop down as a unit, they came down one by one, in a staggered way.

They are VERY VERY lucky that the passengers were just irate civilians, and not armed fighters.

Of course they would have just done a USS Liberty treatment of the ship if it HAD contained armed fighters, they just wanted to drop in one by one for show, and for an excuse to open up with their Uzi's.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-05-31   22:28:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: FormerLurker (#8)

Of course they would have just done a USS Liberty treatment of the ship if it HAD contained armed fighters, they just wanted to drop in one by one for show, and for an excuse to open up with their Uzi's.

WHOOPS!

I have to take exception with you on this most recent issue and I am no fan of Israel. There was no pre-determined manifest offered.

Inward Foreign Manifest

Inward Foreign Manifest is a general term to describe the manifest that contains cargo or passengers from a foreign port that is being carried over beyond the first port of call in just about all nations around the globe. This is specifically called a Traveling Manifest.

It wasn't accepted and the flotilla knew that.

And a pile of those shipboard crew were (in fact) shooting with AK-47s at the Israeli helicopters.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   22:40:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: buckeroo (#13) (Edited)

And a pile of those shipboard crew were (in fact) shooting with AK-47s at the Israeli helicopters.

Source that please........

Even the Israelis are stating that the passengers had only two pistols--both taken from IDF commandos.

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   22:46:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: abraxas (#14)

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   23:02:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: buckeroo (#17)

And a pile of those shipboard crew were (in fact) shooting with AK-47s at the Israeli helicopters.

Where are the AK-47's you mentioned? They sure aren't in that video. And, frankly, there is no evidence of grenades and firebombs as the IDF claims--one could not identify the objects in the videos as such.

Say, why do you think the IDF was filming their terrorist drop in on the civilian boats?

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   23:09:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: abraxas (#19)

Say, why do you think the IDF was filming their terrorist drop in on the civilian boats?

Because they knew that the flotilla was not a "peace mission." Isn't some modern technology fantastick?

Where are the AK-47's you mentioned?

You didn't see the soldier drop off at the beginning of the footage? What do you think caused him to drop so suddenly ... a marshmallow was thrown at him?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   23:18:56 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: buckeroo (#21)

You didn't see the soldier drop off at the beginning of the footage? What do you think caused him to drop so suddenly ... a marshmallow was thrown at him?

I'll tell you what I didn't see--ANY AK-47's. Why are you promoting propoganda Buckeroo?

Like I said, two pistols were taken FROM IDF COMMANDOS. That is the only guns reported in possession of passengers on the boats.

BTW, the flotilla was IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS where the IDF had no business dropping in on them. What's next? Are you going to defend the slaughter of the USS Liberty crew in international waters too? Claim they fired assualt rifles at them or something to deserve that act of war?

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   23:27:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: abraxas (#24)

BTW, the flotilla was IN INTERNATIONAL WATERS where the IDF had no business dropping in on them. What's next? Are you going to defend the slaughter of the USS Liberty crew in international waters too? Claim they fired assualt rifles at them or something to deserve that act of war?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-05-31   23:29:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: buckeroo (#25)

Are you a one man wing of the Israeli propoganda machine, Bucky?

Still no reliable back up for your AK-47 claims? Perhaps the IDF will come through for you shortly.

abraxas  posted on  2010-05-31   23:44:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: abraxas (#30)

Another view ... and apparently these brutal thugs just beat the living shit out of the IDF.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-06-01   0:02:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: buckeroo (#33)

Uh, Bucky, that's the video I posted at the beginning of this thread.....

Yeah, if the IDF dropped into my boat I'd beat the living shit out of them too. And those civilian "thugs" took the pistols from those "brave" commandos that dropped from helicopters armed to the gills to murder civilians. Poor widdle IDF with all the weapons and the helecopters.....they sure are the victim here of this botched attack on a civilian humanitarian aid ship in international waters while 20 civilians have been murdered by IDF arms.

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-01   0:09:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: abraxas (#35)

Uh, Bucky, that's the video I posted at the beginning of this thread.....

LOL

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-01   0:11:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: wudidiz (#36)

Step away from the sterno......lol

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-01   0:13:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: abraxas (#37)

lol... put down the pipe ; )

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-01   0:15:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: wudidiz (#38)

I'm smokin' what you're rollin' Wud. : P

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-01   0:16:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: abraxas (#39)

I'm still waitin for the AKs.

Sheesh, you'd think a guy would've bookmarked that...

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-01   0:18:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: wudidiz (#41)

I'm still waitin for the AKs.

In the video I just referred abraxas to, it appears there is someone with an AK47, but it doesn't look like a member of IDF, unless I'm blind in one eye and have lost the other.

Phant2000  posted on  2010-06-01   0:20:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Phant2000 (#42)

We did not find results for: http://www.worldpress.org/link.cfm? http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheGlobeAndMail-Front/~3/uppUWTXW3sI/.

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-01   0:25:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: abraxas, wudidiz (#45)

The URL I gave you is NOT what I copied (CTL "c"), but when I pasted (CTL "v") what I had copied, it came out as I put on here.

Here is an article from a North Cypress paper: http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2010/05/31/israeli-commandos-massacre- unarmed-peace-activists-in-international-waters/

I am copying the earlier URL by typing one letter at a time. I just tried it and it works for me. Let's hope this works for you: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheGlobeAndMail-Front/~3/uppUWTXW3sI/

Phant2000  posted on  2010-06-01   0:35:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Phant2000 (#53)

Here is an article from a North Cypress paper:

So, is it an article or a video? You claimed you had a video to share of civilians with AK-47's.

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-01   0:38:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: abraxas, Phant2000 (#56)

You claimed you had a video to share of civilians with AK-47's.

I'm don't think that's true. I think Phant2000 was just trying to help.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-06-01   0:42:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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