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Title: Flotilla passengers attack IDF when they drop in on them........
Source: you tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gYjkLUcbJWo&feature=player_embedded
Published: May 31, 2010
Author: Israeli Propaganda Machine
Post Date: 2010-05-31 22:14:15 by abraxas
Keywords: None
Views: 1402
Comments: 86

Making the case for murdering the passengers as the IDF was just dropping in to say "hi" to them all.......
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#46. To: abraxas (#43)
now where did I put that derb nub bookmark?

LOL!!

christine posted on 2010-06-01 0:26:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: Phant2000 (#42)
Yes, thank you :)
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 0:27:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: tom007 (#1)
This is chuptza that will not fly. Israel lands commandos on a ship in International waters and claims to be the victim of violence.

Fox Jews and Cabala News Network like the Israeli story - they tell it over and over!
Somali pirates bad - Jew pirates GOOD -- go figure!
p.s. Have the Somali pirates even killed ten people in total?

your_neighbor posted on 2010-06-01 0:27:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: abraxas, Phant2000 (#45) (Edited)
We did not find results for: http://www.worldpress.org/link.cfm? http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheGlobeAndMail-Front/~3/uppUWTXW3sI/.

That's because it's two addresses lol
Here I'll hyperlink them for you:
www.worldpress.org/link.cfm?
feedproxy.google.com/~r/T...ail-Front/~3/uppUWTXW3sI/.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 0:30:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: abraxas (#35)
Yeah, if the IDF dropped into my boat I'd beat the living shit out of them too.

I wanted your review of the mayhem those "peace" loving zealots portrayed. That wasn't a "boat"; that was a ship without an approved manifest sailing into a known embargo set up years ago; the captain carried over 600 passengers aboard making himself an incredible person that should have the Turkish government strp him of setting otherwise innocent civilians into harm's way.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
buckeroo posted on 2010-06-01 0:31:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: buckeroo (#50)
without an approved manifest

???
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 0:32:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: wudidiz (#49)
That's because it's two addresses lol

Oh, I see it's operator problems again....more sterno stat!!
Thanks Wud.......but neither link brings up a video of civilians with AK-47's.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
abraxas posted on 2010-06-01 0:32:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: abraxas, wudidiz (#45)
The URL I gave you is NOT what I copied (CTL "c"), but when I pasted (CTL "v") what I had copied, it came out as I put on here.
Here is an article from a North Cypress paper: http://www.northcyprusfreepress.com/2010/05/31/israeli-commandos-massacre- unarmed-peace-activists-in-international-waters/
I am copying the earlier URL by typing one letter at a time. I just tried it and it works for me. Let's hope this works for you: http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/TheGlobeAndMail-Front/~3/uppUWTXW3sI/

Phant2000 posted on 2010-06-01 0:35:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: wudidiz (#51)
???

There was no approved manifest (what is onboard and whom is onboard) by the Israeli government. The embargo has been ongoing for years.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
buckeroo posted on 2010-06-01 0:35:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: buckeroo (#50)
I wanted your review of the mayhem those "peace" loving zealots portrayed.

Right, as opposed to those "peace" loving IDF commandos that can't even keep track of their pistols.
Again, the SHIP was in ITNERNATIONAL WATERS, not in the embargo port. Yes, all ships, even the Good Ship Lollypop should be ready for peace loving Israeli commandos to drop in on them from helicopters at 60nm out armed to the teeth.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
abraxas posted on 2010-06-01 0:36:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: Phant2000 (#53)
Here is an article from a North Cypress paper:

So, is it an article or a video? You claimed you had a video to share of civilians with AK-47's.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
abraxas posted on 2010-06-01 0:38:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: abraxas, wudidiz (#53)
You are both free to call me whatever that would best describe someone that plays but doesn't know with what!!!

Phant2000 posted on 2010-06-01 0:39:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: buckeroo (#54)
There was no approved manifest (what is onboard and whom is onboard) by the Israeli government. The embargo has been ongoing for years.

They were in international borders.
The "embargo" is an illegal, cruel and evil starvation program.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 0:39:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#59. To: abraxas, Phant2000 (#56)
You claimed you had a video to share of civilians with AK-47's.

I'm don't think that's true. I think Phant2000 was just trying to help.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 0:42:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#60. To: abraxas (#56)
You claimed you had a video to share of civilians with AK-47's.

You see the video to the right of the article, down a few inches that says, "Two versions of events on flotilla"?

Phant2000 posted on 2010-06-01 0:42:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#61. To: abraxas, wudidiz (#60)
I just watched it again ... it appears that several have AKs, but I'm not a gun person. I am just impressed by BEEG stuff that might erase the joos off the face of the earth. Problem is, it looks to me that any guns on that boat are held by the IDF.

Phant2000 posted on 2010-06-01 0:44:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#62. To: buckeroo (#13)
There was no pre-determined manifest offered.

There was none needed for Israel. They weren't landing there.

bluegrass posted on 2010-06-01 0:44:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#63. To: wudidiz (#58)
They were in international borders.
The "embargo" is an illegal, cruel and evil starvation program.

Are you saying that Israel can't defend itself against: smuggling, war aggression, terrorism and invasion?
I guess the USA can't either. No wonder America has a fouled and nasty polluted population.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
buckeroo posted on 2010-06-01 0:44:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#64. To: abraxas, wudidiz (#61)
You see it yet?

Phant2000 posted on 2010-06-01 0:45:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#65. To: Phant2000, abraxas (#61)
Problem is, it looks to me that any guns on that boat are held by the IDF.

That's what I saw too.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 0:47:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#66. To: wudidiz (#65)
That's what I saw too

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYY ... you finally saw it.

Phant2000 posted on 2010-06-01 0:49:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#67. To: bluegrass (#62)
I guess you haven't heard ... Israel is at odds with Gaza and has been for years (something about rockets being launched from there). This is the ninth attempt at crashing Israel's blockade over the years.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
buckeroo posted on 2010-06-01 0:49:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#68. To: Phant2000 (#66)
I saw it shortly after you posted it.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 0:50:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#69. To: buckeroo (#67)
You now defend piracy. Really?

bluegrass posted on 2010-06-01 0:52:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#70. To: Phant2000 (#61)
I just watched it--had to press that button that said "video" first (lol)--and the only people I saw on the video with AK-47's was the IDF.
I agree with the analysis that "any guns on that boat are held by the IDF" and not the passengers on the boats.
Also, the claims of grenades and firebombs by the IDF remain unsubstantiated from the videos I've viewed....they claim that is what is tossed around but who is to say who is tossing and I saw no explosions from the objects.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
abraxas posted on 2010-06-01 0:53:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#71. To: buckeroo, bluegrass, abraxas, Phant2000, christine, all (#67)
I guess you haven't heard ... Israel is at odds with Gaza and has been for years (something about rockets being launched from there).

Some if not all of those rockets were fired by Israelis. False flag terrorism. (something about war by deception).
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 0:53:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#72. To: Phant2000 (#66)
Me too.......hehehe. It all went quickly once I pushed that little video button.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
abraxas posted on 2010-06-01 0:54:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#73. To: buckeroo (#67)
This is the ninth attempt at crashing Israel's blockade over the years.

Perhaps this is a stupid question, buck, and I don't know what I'm looking at ... but you see how big that boat is? Looks more like a smaller cruise liner than something you would want to crash into anything with.

Phant2000 posted on 2010-06-01 0:54:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#74. To: buckeroo (#63)
They were in international borders.
The "embargo" is an illegal, cruel and evil starvation program.
Are you saying that Israel can't defend itself against: smuggling, war aggression, terrorism and invasion?
I guess the USA can't either. No wonder America has a fouled and nasty polluted population.

I'm not falling into your web of twisted logic.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 0:55:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#75. To: All (#74)
I took buck off bozo today. Call it a whim. It's already starting to hurt.
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 0:56:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#76. To: bluegrass (#69)
You now defend piracy. Really?

The entire flotilla (six ships) was handled at the same or similar time. Why weren't the five other ships subdued with brute government force? (hint: the other ships didn't pretend to play with the IDF's orders)
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
buckeroo posted on 2010-06-01 0:58:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#77. To: wudidiz (#74)
I'm not falling into your web of twisted logic.

I know ... today, you will argue for state's rights to save your own hide. And tomorrow, you will disapprove of the same because it affects your freedoms to authoritatively discuss chemtrails.
"we ought to lay off the criticism" -- Pinguinite, circa 2010-05-26 22:17:22 ET
buckeroo posted on 2010-06-01 1:01:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#78. To: wudidiz, abraxas (#74)
I read somewhere on the net today that Israel is going to position a nuclear sub in that body of water to prevent further traffic!

Phant2000 posted on 2010-06-01 1:01:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#79. To: Phant2000, abraxas (#78)
I read somewhere on the net today that Israel is going to position a nuclear sub in that body of water to prevent further traffic!

Report: Israel to deploy nuclear-armed submarines off Iran coast
“It has been said, 'time heals all wounds.' I do not agree. The wounds remain. In time, the mind, protecting its sanity, covers them with scar tissue and the pain lessens, but it is never gone.” ~ Rose F. Kennedy

wudidiz posted on 2010-06-01 1:05:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#80. To: Phant2000 (#78)
I read somewhere on the net today that Israel is going to position a nuclear sub in that body of water to prevent further traffic!

They already have two parked off the coast of Iran. How many nuke subs do they have? Too many.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
abraxas posted on 2010-06-01 1:08:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#81. To: wudidiz (#79)
Thanks, wudidiz ... you keeping an inventory of what I've read today? I sure hope so, 'cause I forget all the time.

Phant2000 posted on 2010-06-01 1:10:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#82. To: abraxas (#80)
How many nuke subs do they have?

The very reason I think Iran should be able to manufacture whatever nuclear armament they need. Israel has refused to sign any agreement relating to nukes, denies it has any, and refuses to let the IEAE (or whatever you call them) inspect what they DO have.
Because they have refused and denied for so many years, I think they have more nuke weapons than they want us to know about. In any event, it is for sure that the playing field in that area of the world is NOT level. I am of the opinion that it should be.

Phant2000 posted on 2010-06-01 1:14:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#83. To: Phant2000 (#82)
refuses to let the IEAE (or whatever you call them) inspect what they DO have.

Worse, Dimona is an old nuke lab........does Chernobyl ring a bell? No inspections, but I read years ago that Dimona has cracks that are visible from arial photos.
I agree, they have more than they want anybody to know. I've always found this policy of ambiguity idiotic. It makes the US look like fools, especially Obama this week ignoring the elephant in the room at his nuke round table.
Odd how once JFK was out of the picture Israel simply got just what he refused to give them within a couple of months and that policy has been in place now for more than four decades.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
abraxas posted on 2010-06-01 1:20:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#84. To: buckeroo (#32)
I wish America would do the same on the South of the border.

Good point.
Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag and smile, smile, smile.
Prefrontal Vortex posted on 2010-06-01 4:01:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#85. To: buckeroo (#13)
And a pile of those shipboard crew were (in fact) shooting with AK-47s at the Israeli helicopters.

Bullshit. Post a link or retract your statement.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2010-06-01 6:13:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#86. To: buckeroo (#13)
And a pile of those shipboard crew were (in fact) shooting with AK-47s at the Israeli helicopters.

BTW genius, if anyone DID have AK-47's, those commandos would have been easily picked off and dropping from the ropes, not climbing down them.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2010-06-01 6:25:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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