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Title: Alan Keyes and the Neocon Destruction of Third Parties
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Published: Jun 14, 2010
Author: Maggie Bloom
Post Date: 2010-06-15 00:03:19 by farmfriend
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Alan Keyes and the Neocon Destruction of Third Parties

By Maggie Bloom
Sacramento Central Committee
American Independent Party

I’ve really come to dislike Alan Keyes. He says all the right conservative things but what he does is destructive to the Constitutional movement. I have trouble believing it is not planned.

First time I noticed it was in 2006. Illegal immigration had finally hit the main stream media as an issue. Citizen border patrol groups sprang up and huge amounts of money were donated to build an Israeli style fence along the Mexican border. The money was all funneled through a non profit called Declaration Alliance chaired by Alan Keyes. (see: Alan Keyes and the Minuteman Morass) The money disappeared, the fence was never built and the movement has all but died.

Then Ron Paul decided to run for President in 2008. It lit a fire under Constitutionalists that even the main stream media had to pay attention too. With Constitutional issues being brought to the forefront, third parties were in a good position to become a viable alternative to the Ds and Rs.

The American Independent party, as the third largest party in the nation, in affiliation with the Constitution Party was poised to strike at the heart of the status quo system. The Constitution Party put forth well known conservative Pastor Chuck Baldwin. In steps Alan Keyes to reek his destructive havoc.

The leadership of the American Independent Party pushed for Keyes to be the Constitution Party nominee even though the AIP electorate had chosen Don Grundmann as their candidate. So much for holding a primary. The leadership, in its allegiance to Keyes, felt no obligation to support the rightfully elected candidate.

When the leadership of AIP, now referred to as the Robinson faction, failed to push Keyes’ candidacy on the Constitution Party, they chose loyalty to Keyes over Constitutional principles and split the party in two. The split took Pastor Baldwin off the ballot in California and replaced him with Alan Keyes.

The destruction continues. The King faction of AIP wants to remain with the Constitution Party. This election year they tried to regain control of AIP by putting up a bunch of candidates for office. Not only were the candidates like Chelene Nightengale great candidates but it would have effectively given control of AIP over to the King faction.

Alan Keyes needs to retain ballot access in California though. Mark Seidenberg and Markham Robinson, the Robinson faction, have moved to disenfranchise these newly elected candidates. They plan to have the State Convention prior to the candidates being certified by the Secretary of State keeping them off the State Central Committee and prior to the election code mandated county organizational meetings. This allows Seidenberg and Robinson to fake a quorum by filling “empty” spots with their cronies, keeping the Constitution Party out of California and Alan Keyes on the ballot.

So much for viable third parties.

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#1. To: Artisan, turtle, buckeroo, Original_Intent, Lod, abraxas (#0)

ping

"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-06-15   0:12:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: farmfriend (#0)

The destruction continues

I have never been fond of Alan Keyes and not due to any conspiracy theory of tryin' to keep a brother down.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-15   0:23:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#3. To: abraxas, christine (#2)

I have never been fond of Alan Keyes and not due to any conspiracy theory of tryin' to keep a brother down.

I couldn't vote for him.

Hell, he's even darker than the one we got in there now!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-15   1:33:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: farmfriend (#0)

Keyes paid himself $100,000 per year out of campaign funds.

Former campaign workers don't support him

Unpaid Debts

"KEYES CAMPAIGN ISSUES $20,000 IN BAD CHECKS: PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE'S EX-AIDE BLAMED," by R.H. Melton, Washington Post, August 10, 1995 p A12

At Harvard, Alan Keyes roomed with Bill Kristol, who later ran his unsuccessful 1988 Senate campaign.

August 2004 Keyes indicated his support for slavery reparations

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2010-06-15   1:53:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#5. To: farmfriend (#0)

good article! i really like what ive seen of nightingale. ive been telling everyone to vote for her dor governor. i had no idea they could keep her off the ballot. what and who is the king faction? and could you expand on how they could get away with keeping people like nightingale off the ballot? thanks

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-15   1:59:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#6. To: bush_is_a_moonie, farmfriend (#4)

not to mention he supports a draft and does not support michael new. keyes is a rat.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-06-15   2:02:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#7. To: Artisan, *Constitution Party* (#5)

good article! i really like what ive seen of nightingale. ive been telling everyone to vote for her dor governor.

Thanks and good. She can use all the votes she can get.

i had no idea they could keep her off the ballot.

What I meant was that they would keep her off the State Central Committee. If the King faction is successful in taking over, they will re-affiliate with the Constitution Party throwing Keyes and his America's Independent Party out on their butts.

I do worry that they can keep Nightengale off the general ballot. She won the primary election against Markham but with no supporters on the Central committee can they vote someone else in as their official candidate like they did in 08? I don't know what the rules are.

In the 08 Presidential election, Don Grundmann won the primary for AIP in California. When the delegates went to the Constitution Party national convention they didn't put Don's name in as a candidate. Now the Constitution Party played political games and left no room for anyone other than Baldwin to win. That said, AIP leadership should have submitted Don's name since he did win the primary. They didn't. They submitted Keyes. According to Seidenberg, they were not obligated by law to put Don's name in. I guess they can do whatever they want like the Electoral College. My contention is that they were at least morally obligated since he was our elected candidate.

The rules say that candidates who win in the primary have a seat on the State Central Committee. This would give the King faction control. The Robinson faction can't have that. They have already said that they will not seat the new candidates because they are holding the convention before they are certified. Talk about resting on technicalities. They also are holding the convention prior to the mandated county organizational meetings. So the counties will not be able to pick their delegates. Effectively this shuts everyone out but the loyal few.

One thing I forgot to mention in the article was the loyalty oath that Robinson passed out at the last Sacramento country Central Committee meeting. At first glance the paper seemed to just be acknowledgment that Robinson is recognized by the Secretary of State as the official leader of AIP. However Robinson cornered me in the parking lot afterwords and made it very clear that signing the paper meant agreeing with everything he had done so far. None of us do. How can you agree with having fake phone conventions such as the 08 convention and the planned 2010 convention while working to keep elected members out? Then he turned around and lied about it in emails where the 2010 convention was being discussed.

Speaking of lying, he supposedly was working to fight the passage of Prop 14 which effectively kills third parties. He even took part in a press conference against Prop 14. However he kept one of our better spoken candidates from speaking at that same press conference because he hadn't cleared it with Robinson first. Now he has come out with a twitter saying he is glad 14 passed. The man is two faced for sure.

As for the two factions, here is what Wiki says about it. I know wiki isn't always reliable but it does get this part right.

2008 split

A split in the American Independent Party occurred during the 2008 presidential campaign, one faction recognizing Jim King as chairman of the AIP with the other recognizing Ed Noonan as chairman. Noonan's faction claims the old AIP Web site address while the King organization claims the AIP blog address. King's group met in Los Angeles on June 28-29, elected King to state chair.[4] Ed Noonan's faction, which included 8 of the 17 AIP officers, held a convention in Sacramento on July 5, 2008. Issues in the split were US foreign policy and the influence of Constitution Party founder Howard Phillips on the state party.[5]

The King group elected to stay in the Constitution Party and supported its presidential candidate, Chuck Baldwin. It was not listed as the "Qualified Political Party" by the California Secretary of State and Baldwin's name was not printed in the state's ballots.[6] King's group sued for ballot access [7] and their case was dismissed without prejudice.[8]

The Noonan group voted to pull out of the Constitution Party and join a new party called America's Independent Party, put together by perennial candidate Alan Keyes as a vehicle for his own presidential campaign.[5] Since Noonan was on record with the California Secretary of State as (outgoing) party chairman, Keyes was added to the state ballots as the AIP candidate.[9] This group elected Markham Robinson as its new chair at the convention.

The issue of who are the true officers of the AIP has not been decided in the ballot access court case.[8] The future of the party after the November election is not clear. The King faction has removed all references to the American Independent Party from their website and is now billed as the Constitution Party of California.[10]

"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-06-15   2:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#8. To: all (#0)

Voting ??? Still ??? Really ???

If it's Federal the Bankers own it. "It's a big club and you ain't in it" ...

YOU only count when it's census or TAX time" ... don't you find it ironic that the census bureau says they rely upon the Constitution for their authority and pays their help in UNCONSTITUTIONAL FRNs ... bend over and lick the hand that beats you !

noone222  posted on  2010-06-15   6:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#9. To: farmfriend (#0)

This isn't some subtle problem with "Neo-Cons". It can happen everywhere on the political spectrum. It's called jealousy. Alan Keyes is nuts to become President. In his entire life he held only one public office (I think an ambassadorship) - only because of his campaign contributions and he had that office rather briefly. Keyes is lusting for the Presidency so badly that he'll join up - as he did - with virtually anything that qualifies as a political party that will put him on the ticket. Keyes is such a sore loser that he's joined the birfers to try to oust Obama from office, even though that wouldn't help him even a tiny bit.

In the 2008 campaign we saw something also with other black politicians - Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton. They had both wanted to be the First Black President. When Obama actually got the nomination they both had yearned for, they said the appropriate words of support -- and nothing more to help Obama.

Back in 1960, Eugene McCarthy was lusting so much to be the First Catholic President that he was conspicuously half-hearted about helping JFK get elected.

We saw something of this in 2000 when Pat Buchanan similarly bounced around from one party to another until the Reform Party (Perot's old party) gave him its umbrella. Yet, once he had the Reform Party's backing he did little to campaign, squandering the Party's treasury on his family and buddies and blowing away the Party's entitlement to a ballot line. Also in 2000, some other wannabees, like Charles E. Collins and Bo Gritz, bounced from one party to another until they found some group desperate enough to put them on its ticket.

Shoonra  posted on  2010-06-15   7:47:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#10. To: farmfriend (#7)

Keyes is pure poison. Reminds me of Lolana Fulani (whatever...) or Lyndon LaRouge. Same kind of scamming, shabby tricks, money-grubbing, trying to take over organizations using obscure bylaws so they can grab ballot slots in order to promote their circus of other scams.

TooConservative  posted on  2010-06-15   8:50:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#11. To: farmfriend (#1)

Thanks for this excellent analysis/obit of third party movements.

Ego is always the winner.

Lod  posted on  2010-06-15   9:06:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#12. To: HOUNDDAWG (#3)

lol. keyes is not on my list of respectable darkies. ;)

christine  posted on  2010-06-15   12:15:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#13. To: HOUNDDAWG, christine (#3)

I couldn't vote for him.

Smug, arrogant, self righteous--not qualities I admire.

"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations

abraxas  posted on  2010-06-15   12:18:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#14. To: TooConservative, all (#10)

Keyes is pure poison.

And a neocon from way back.

You can find it said on any number of sources that during his first year of graduate school, Keyes's roommate was William Kristol.

What's that they say about birds of a feather?

randge  posted on  2010-06-15   13:27:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#15. To: christine, James Deffenbach, bluegrass, randge, Jethro_Tull, Original_Intent (#12)

keyes is not on my list of respectable (censored) ;)

You know where he lost me?

Years ago he had me going with his powerful pro-constitution rhetoric and his attacks on his alma mater (Harvard) but where the people empowering constitution leaves off he apparently believes that The Bible takes over.

Any politician who believes (or asserts) that America is/was blessed by GAWD makes me nervous.

If elected he'd no doubt try to codify his religious beliefs into law just as the pain-in-the-ass Danbury Baptists urged President Thomas Jefferson to do in 1802.

Left to their mischief the Christian Jihadists would censor pop culture and without the slightest doubt about the infallibility of their beliefs.

And, dammit, I like Stefani Germanotta's BAD ROMANCE and David Allen Coe's My Wife Ran Off With a (Nigerian)

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-15   14:42:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#16. To: HOUNDDAWG (#15)

I think Jefferson was, as was frequently the case, on the money in maintaining a separation of Church and State. Of course the atheists, and many Jews, try to distort this as a prohibition against religious belief and expressions of it in the public square. The separation simply means that the State has no right, and no place, in supporting any one religious group to the detriment of others. The position was not to eliminate the influence religion nor prohibit its practice but rather to prevent The State from using The Church as an extension and tool for subjugation.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-06-15   14:50:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#17. To: bush_is_a_moonie (#4)

At Harvard, Alan Keyes roomed with Bill Kristol

What you doin' up in here, boy?!?!

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton

He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace

James Deffenbach  posted on  2010-06-15   16:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#18. To: HOUNDDAWG (#15)

My Wife Ran Off With a (Nigerian)

omg. those lyrics! :P

christine  posted on  2010-06-15   19:08:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#19. To: christine (#18)

omg. those lyrics!

lol!

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-15   23:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#20. To: Original_Intent (#16)

I think Jefferson was, as was frequently the case, on the money in maintaining a separation of Church and State. Of course the atheists, and many Jews, try to distort this as a prohibition against religious belief and expressions of it in the public square. The separation simply means that the State has no right, and no place, in supporting any one religious group to the detriment of others. The position was not to eliminate the influence religion nor prohibit its practice but rather to prevent The State from using The Church as an extension and tool for subjugation.

That's well put.

Sadly, when the IRS and the 501 C(3) tax exempt status was codified all of the major denoms went for it (even though they were already immune to taxation) in the belief that it would be official recognition of "true religions" and suppress the Tony Alamos, The Rashneesh, etc.,.

One of the first "victims" was Sgt Alvin C. York, whose claim of conscientious objector was denied because his little Tennessee hill church was not a "govt approved religion." (Amish and Mennonite men were persecuted before for refusing to serve, but they also held fast in their refusal to seek exemption and were eventually grandfathered in)

But, the main stream churches soon found that they could be stripped of their tax exempt status and put under a court appointed master if they preached anti homo, anti foreign involvement, etc., sermons on Sunday. (BushCo was particularly vicious against preachers who criticized them) And although clearly political in nature John Hagee's mission is not a problem for the govt, though.

If King George had that power the Revolution would have never gotten off the ground.

It was the gutsy sermons by courageous patriots that helped make independence possible.

The "Wall Of Separation" was not intended to keep Pat Robertson from running for the presidency. The media abuses this interpretation whenever a "Christian" toys with a run at the office.

Now, don't get me wrong, I don't want him as president, either. But, I don't want the media or the govt deciding who is or isn't acceptable, especially at a time when US Servicemen are dying and killing for Israel.

All one needs to hear is a speech by a fanatical Zio-(pseudo) Christian to understand the danger of allowing them to make policy.

Because they're "Gawd's Chosen Peepul" it's okay to murder any heathens' wives and children in their sleep with laser guided weapons. Or our troops may kick their doors in and hose them to death for thinking unapproved thoughts, thoughts that are not allowed in the free country we call America.

The Wall only blocks certain religions, or so it seems.

HOUNDDAWG  posted on  2010-06-16   18:01:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#21. To: All, *Constitution Party* (#0)

A friend posted my article on FR. Comments are interesting. Someone pinged Eternal Vigilance too who is a big wig in Keyes' party.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2536779/posts

"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-06-17   19:44:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#22. To: All, *Constitution Party*, Original_Intent, Lod, rotara, buckeroo, abraxas (#21)

I was awaiting a post by EternalVigilance. I think it speaks for itself.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2536779/posts?page=45#45

To: Seadog Bytes; All

“Neocon” is one of those malleable terms that can mean a lot of things, seemingly, but the most virulent of those who tend to use it mean either “Jew,” or “Jew-lover,” or “pro-Israel,” or “not an isolationist like me.”

The American Independent Party of California left the Constitution Party, many of whose members tend to use that amorphous but derogatory term a lot, some of them in exactly the way I’ve described.

AIP then affiliated nationally with our new party, America’s Independent Party, which is a 100% Reagan peace through strength party, not an isolationist party, one which is also very much pro-Israel. (I’m the chairman, by the way.)

That’s what is at the core of the dispute.

But, in any case, the Paulite/CP/Baldwin faction no longer has any say in the course of the American Independent Party of California. It’s a new day. That’s the bottom line.

From our Platform:

Peace through Strength

We believe in a supremely strong, prepared, and well-equipped civilian-controlled United States military, and a bold, visionary and intelligent program of principled constructive engagement with the rest of the world. For us, “peace through strength” is not a mere slogan. It is the means of survival for our country in a very dangerous and often hostile world. Our friendship should be a sought-after possession of all men and women of good will everywhere in the world. Our enmity should be something that all rightfully fear.

As Ronald Reagan opposed and defeated the designs and desire of the Soviet Union to dominate the world and place it under the tyranny of their Evil Empire, we stand unalterably opposed to all who approve of, plan or commit terrorist acts. Since the first principle of America is the protection of innocent human life, any who would use acts of terrorism targeted at innocent civilians to forward their political, ideological or religious aims incur our effective and determined enmity.

http://aipnews.com/mxPage.asp?ID=3

AIP’s “Peace through Strength Institute”:

http://www.aipnews.com/talk/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=101

45 posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 9:15:33 PM by EternalVigilance (Socialism never works. But that never stops socialists from trying.)
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"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-06-18   3:04:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#23. To: farmfriend (#22)

To: pissant

The only mess is with the Ron Paul/CP/Chuck Baldwin faction. We’re fine.

27 posted on Thursday, June 17, 2010 7:11:24 PM by EternalVigilance (Socialism never works. But that never stops socialists from trying.)

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I used to have a lot of respect for that guy. He's nothing more than a hack professional political neocon grifter...I believe he's married to a Mormon fwiw.

lol


"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”—Samuel Adams

Rotara  posted on  2010-06-26   12:37:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#24. To: Rotara (#23)

He's nothing more than a hack professional political neocon grifter...I believe he's married to a Mormon fwiw.

They've accused the Constitution Party of being anti Mormon.

"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-06-26   17:28:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#25. To: hondo68 (#0)

Ping

"With respect to the words general welfare, I have always regarded them as qualified by the detail of powers connected with them. To take them in a literal and unlimited sense would be a metamorphosis of the Constitution into a character which there is a host of proofs was not contemplated by its creators."
James Madison, Letter to James Robertson, April 20, 1831

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-05   14:41:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#26. To: hondo68 (#0)

Name calling is juvenile.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-26   23:08:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#27. To: farmfriend (#26)

Thanks for the ping. I voted for Chuck Baldwin, must have wrote him in. Ron Paul was a write in for sure, in the primary.

I remember seeing one lonely Keyes sign at the church debate. Nobody wanted him.

My joy over McCain's defeat, is offset by my disappointment over hObama's victory.

hondo68  posted on  2010-07-27   0:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#28. To: hondo68 (#27)

the people in our party are purposefully destroying it. They are trying to take Chelene off the ballot. Certainly don't have our party at heart. They elected a new party chairman puppet but won't let him take power until Sept. Even then they are doing the third world dictator thing by creating a new post with all the power so they can retain it. Sick, evil people we are dealing with.

Name calling is juvenile.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-27   1:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#29. To: farmfriend (#1)

On revisiting this the thought that occurs is that no viable third party is allowed to compete with the two controlled parties. This way it maintains an illusion of choice while there is no choice. Any third party that reaches a point where it might become a viable competitor is sabotaged. Thus the Libertarian Party has been compromised by moles within and so AIP and likely the Constitution Party as well.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-27   2:13:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#30. To: farmfriend (#28)

You can count on one or more of the people sabotaging your party are reporting to either an FBI or CIA handler.

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-27   2:14:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#31. To: Original_Intent (#29)

On revisiting this the thought that occurs is that no viable third party is allowed to compete with the two controlled parties. This way it maintains an illusion of choice while there is no choice. Any third party that reaches a point where it might become a viable competitor is sabotaged.

Most definitely. The same people who are destroying our party destroyed the Reform Party and I've heard from others on the web that the same thing happened to the Green Party. So left or right is irrelevant. Viability is the key.

Name calling is juvenile.

farmfriend  posted on  2010-07-27   2:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#32. To: farmfriend (#31)

Exactly. Non-viable or disruptive third parties are left alone as an outlet to funnel discontent into non-productive avenues. Once a party organizes enough to become viable it is infiltrated, or already has been, and the moles within start seeking to destroy it - all the while spouting pious motives like "keeping the party pure" etc., ....

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order." K.M. Heaton, The National Educator

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-07-27   2:39:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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