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Title: Why can't/don't those States affected by the BP oil mess sue the Federal Gov't over not rescinding the Jones Act or Law?
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Published: Jun 30, 2010
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Post Date: 2010-06-30 18:16:09 by Itistoolate
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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)
No clue.
Even chimpie over-ruled it twice during his reign.
The kenyan wants a massive crisis for his cap and tax scheme.
Alex didn't play along by veering way west of the gusher, thank God.

Lod posted on 2010-06-30 18:25:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Itistoolate, Lod (#0) (Edited)
Why can't/don't those States affected by the BP oil mess sue the Federal Gov't over not rescinding the Jones Act or Law?

The feds and the states have what is known as "sovereign immunity" or in some cases "qualified immunity" and in either case you must seek their permission before suing. But, even if a federal judge agrees that there's a cause of action the US Govt can and will appeal up to the SCOTUS or until they get a favorable ruling.
"Sovereign immunity" was the ultimate protection that European royalty invoked, and (because our legal system has been corrupt since the first day of this new nation through the defacto adoption of British law) the US govt considers itself the sovereign.
The people are the sovereign and the govt, servants, but this is not reflected in our legal system. This is also why judges can summarily punish contempt without a hearing or trial. We were told that it's legal despite there being no constitutional basis for any exceptions to the 4th, 5th and 6th amendments. And, ("they decided" that) they can jail you for up to a year despite no statutory support for this power. This and other judicial powers were simply usurped and not challenged in a timely manner by the lawyers (schooled in British law) who formed this country.
It's a little known fact that even supreme court cases were decided by juries when John Jay was the 1st Chief Justice of the United States. In one of the first SCOTUS jury trials, Jay told the jury that they had the power to judge the law and the facts!
But now, we're not even told of our power to check bad law as well as decide cases on the evidence. They've decided that even though we have the power it's best if jurors "aren't told about it". (The OJ jury figured it out)
This one dirty little secret is all the evidence I need to offer of the institutional bad faith and corruption that is American jurisprudence.
In cases where the costs would be unacceptable or where the power of the govt weakened federal judges show their true colors and they become political hack lawyers who hunker down and protect their licenses to steal.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2010-06-30 18:53:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: HOUNDDAWG, Lod (#2)
has anyone noticed that the investigation of Goldman Sachs by both the SEC AND Congress is not proceeding?
no connection here, move along

Itistoolate posted on 2010-06-30 19:15:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: HOUNDDAWG (#2)
In one of the first SCOTUS jury trials, Jay told the jury that they had the power to judge the law and the facts!

Yeah, Georgia v. Brailsford. A lot of people don't believe it when you tell them that the SC had jury trials when the nation was new.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
James Deffenbach posted on 2010-06-30 19:22:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: James Deffenbach (#4)
A lot of people don't believe it when you tell them that the SC had jury trials when the nation was new.

Well I learned something today.

Pinguinite posted on 2010-06-30 19:26:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: James Deffenbach (#4)
Yeah, Georgia v. Brailsford. A lot of people don't believe it when you tell them that the SC had jury trials when the nation was new.

Thank you!
I'm really happy that you posted the cite in a timely manner because I couldn't remember it. The last 8 months or so I've really been afflicted BY CRS syndrome.
It really bothers me because all my life I've been a virtual Encyclopedia of worthless trivia.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2010-06-30 19:45:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Pinguinite (#5)
Wayne Madsen Reports BP Orders Press Away from Gulf via Janet Napolitano on Alex Jones Tv 2/3 (FEMA 800 puund Gorilla)

Itistoolate posted on 2010-06-30 19:46:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Itistoolate (#3)
has anyone noticed that the investigation of Goldman Sachs by both the SEC AND Congress is not proceeding?
no connection here, move along

Good obs.
We know that the FED has promised dire consequences if the FED audit proceeds in any meaningful way, and the Gold Sacks investigation is no doubt ancillary to that. One cannot investigate one without shining a light on the other.
If it starts to build any back pressure it may be time to revisit the sordid details of the Eliot Spitzer prostitution scandal. He was the only official who tried to do anything about the wormy banksters and he became the sensational headline that knocked them off the front pages.
A politician kept a prostitute/mistress?
LORD HAVE MERCY ON OUR SOULS!

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2010-06-30 19:54:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: HOUNDDAWG (#8)
Department of Energy: Oil Well Drill Pipe Was Violently Ejected Upwards Into the Blowout Preventer
www.washingtonsblog.com/2...-steven-chu-confirms.html

Itistoolate posted on 2010-06-30 19:58:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: Itistoolate (#9)
Department of Energy: Oil Well Drill Pipe Was Violently Ejected Upwards Into the Blowout Preventer

Yeah, I read that!
Twins in the Blowout Preventer!
And they knew long before the explosion that the equipment would likely prove worthless because of the ridiculously high pressures.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2010-06-30 20:01:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: Itistoolate, Turtle, Original_Intent, flintlock, James_Deffenbach (#7)
Wayne Madsen reporting that people are storming congresses around the world.
Imagine if America was the only nation left where the people had not revolted, and then picture our KGB-snitch-in-residence saying, "What, me? Hell, no I don't wanna get shot by a govt sniper!"
He claims to be fearless as he waves his virtual dick around like a light saber, and then in a most craven fashion surrenders at the mere hint that his miserable life may be forfeit if he misbehaves. I suppose if an armed rapist breaks in he'll encourage the little woman and his daughters to lay down and take it "...or, he might kill me, er, I mean us!"
I'd rather be shot stone cold dead than watch any more appeasers offer to feed the gators hoping to be eaten last.

HOUNDDAWG posted on 2010-06-30 20:29:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)
Whistle blower to testify on oil spill worst fear:BP deliberately sinks oil with Corexit as cover up
www.examiner.com/x-33986-...-with-Corexit-as-cover-up

Itistoolate posted on 2010-06-30 20:41:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Pinguinite (#5)
Well I learned something today.

Seems like I learn something new just about every day. The older I get the more I know how little I know.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
James Deffenbach posted on 2010-06-30 21:34:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: HOUNDDAWG (#6)
Thank you!
I'm really happy that you posted the cite in a timely manner because I couldn't remember it. The last 8 months or so I've really been afflicted BY CRS syndrome.

You're welcome and welcome to the club. I have that same affliction.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
James Deffenbach posted on 2010-06-30 21:35:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: HOUNDDAWG (#11)
I'd rather be shot stone cold dead than watch any more appeasers offer to feed the gators hoping to be eaten last.

Good point Dawg.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.
Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic.
OsamaBinGoldstein posted on 2010-05-25 9:39:59 ET (2 images) Reply Trace
James Deffenbach posted on 2010-06-30 21:37:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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