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Title: Jesus was not a Jew
Source: jesuswasnotajew
URL Source: http://www.jesuswasnotajew.com/
Published: Jul 1, 2010
Author: Pastor Eli
Post Date: 2010-07-01 17:13:54 by Itistoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 1024
Comments: 92

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Lod  posted on  2010-07-01   17:19:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jesus was a Judean, and the sign above his cross read, "King of the Judeans," not "King of the Jews."

St. Ausgustine on the State: "It was a criminal band that achieved legitimacy not by renouncing aggression, but rather by attaining impunity."

Turtle  posted on  2010-07-01   17:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What do you think he was, Muslim? He was an Essene Jew, also known as Nazarene.

ESSENE CHRISTIANITY VERSUS PAULIANITY

The Gospels that reside in the New Testament were not written by his apostles, and that is fairly easily seen if you look into the origins of the New Testament.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-01   17:42:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the title should have been "..NOT A JEW"

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-07-01   17:43:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

((Ping))

Always ping Christine with your moderator needs, she's good about fixing up thread titles 'n stuff.

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X-15  posted on  2010-07-01   17:49:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jesus was a Palestinian.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-01   17:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Please, let's cut through the crap.

Jesus was the only-begotten Son of God.

Lod  posted on  2010-07-01   18:01:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jesus was NOT a Jew!!! Christian Israel Heritage Truth

Itistoolate  posted on  2010-07-01   18:06:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-01   18:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jesus was the only-begotten Son of God

Amen!

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-01   18:11:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Canada Day

Canada Day?!? What's that, everybody up there pretends that they're not America's 51st state??

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Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.

X-15  posted on  2010-07-01   18:13:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hers is a painting of Jesus in a Jewish temple.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-01   18:16:57 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Thanks, I have to keep it really, really simple down here.

Lod  posted on  2010-07-01   18:25:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Happy Canada Day!!!

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-01   18:26:43 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Does Canada Day have any more meaning than our Independence Day does here?

Lod  posted on  2010-07-01   18:30:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Canada day means girls dressed in red and white.

And fireworks.

I think July 1st 1867 Canada officially became a country.

Basically the same meaning as Independance day I guess.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-01   18:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jesus was NOT a Jew!!!

Just because there's some ignorant fool on YouTube making that claim doesn't make it true.

For one, why do you think the Old Testament (Jewish Bible) is included in the Christian Bible? Was Jesus born to some sort of people who weren't religious, and/or worshipped Zeus or some other Greek or Roman god?

That's if there even WAS a Jesus, where if you look at the fact the New Testament was created out of many different religions in the 4th Century at the Council of Nicea, and the original name of the new official Roman man-god was Hesus Krishna, a composite of the Celtic Druid god Esus or Hesus, and the Hindu god Krishna.

Then there's this...

MARCION AND THE "FIRST" NEW TESTAMENT...WHO WERE THE ORIGINAL CHRISTIANS AND WHAT DID THEY BELIEVE ABOUT "THE CHRIST"?

What it comes down to is that the Jesus mentioned in the existing New Testament, a product of the Roman Catholic Church, most certainly depicts Jesus as a follower of the Jewish faith, and whose "Father" is the God of the Old Testament.

As far as who Jesus ACTUALLY was, well that's highly debatable. I lean on the side of the Essene tradition, as it makes the most sense out of the sort of person Jesus was SUPPOSED to be, ie. Golden Rule, turn the other cheek, etc..

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-01   18:50:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Hers is a painting of Jesus in a Jewish temple.

Right, because they were basically committing sacrilege by peddling their wares in a Holy Temple.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-01   18:51:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jesus was NOT a Jew!!!

BTW IATL, I guess you don't believe that stuff about Moses or how God created Man in Their own Image, right?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-01   18:52:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

# Articles of Proof

* Contact www.jesuswasnotajew.com/contact/
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Itistoolate  posted on  2010-07-01   18:57:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Articles of Proof

Paul was an agent of Rome, and never met Jesus. Paul persecuted the true followers of Jesus, and had them rounded up and murdered.

That's if THOSE historical legends are indeed true. If you look at the links I provided, you'll find that the very body which spawned modern day Christianity admits that the New Testament didn't exist till the 4th century, ie. over 400 years after the birth of Jesus. So NONE of the "letters" from any of the apostles are legitimate, they are all forgeries.

Again, even excluding the very real fact that the New Testament was basically the creation of authors commissioned by Constantine, I can't see how you can deny that the Jesus of the Bible was Jewish. Do you not believe anything in the Old Testament?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-01   19:05:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

From your link...

JUDAISM IS NOT THE RELIGION OF THE OLD TESTAMENT.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!

Do you really believe that? Do you even know what the Old Testament is? The first 5 books of the Old Testament is the JEWISH TORAH.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-01   19:08:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Did you know that your source, Dr. Wesley A. Swift, was a member of the KKK while he was alive?

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-01   19:53:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

In the first place, Jesus was not a Jew. He was a Hebrew, yes, but not a Jew. It is a common misconception that is actually fostered by the Jews, themselves.

The historical facts are these: the Hebrews were the Semitic -language ETHNIC group of people who lived in the highlands of Palestine. As an ethnic group of Semitic people, they had a belief system that was divided into various sects. Just as modern day Muslims can all be called Muslims even though they have divided themselves into two main SECTS called Sunnis and Shiites; and just as modern day Christians can all be called Christians even though they have divided themselves into various SECTS called Catholics, Protestants, Methodists, Presbeterians, etc.; so too were the ancient Hebrews all called Hebrews even though they had divided themselve into several SECTS which they called Pharisees, Sadducees, Scribes, Essenes, etc. They were all Hebrews but they were not all Pharisees. They were all Hebrews but they were not all Sadducees. They were all Hebrews but they were not all Scribes.

So, once you understand that the Hebrews as a people all generally followed a certain belief system even though they were also divided into several SECTS, then you can understand why Jesus was not a Jew even though he was, indeed, a Hebrew.

Among the Hebrews, the Sadducees followed the teachings of the Torah (the Old Testament) and were generally part of the rich and "politically correct" social climbers of their times, being close to the king and the ruling elite who liked riches and admired Roman culture.

While the Torah was generally accepted by the Pharisees, they also followed some extra-curricular beliefs that were invented by their rabbis and which were known as "The Tradition of the Elders". These teachings were mainly various methods of evading the Commandments and for making the rabbis into mouthpieces for God. These Traditions were considered by the Pharisees to be of a higher order than the teachings of the Torah, even though they were basically rules for overturning all of the Laws of God that they had learned from Moses. "The Tradition of the Elders" was an oral teaching that only the Pharisees followed and passed on to their sons.

So, when Jesus arrived on the scene, He had a special condemnation for the Pharisees whom he called, "liars, deceivers, hypocrites, murderers and the very children of their father, the Devil." While Jesus had plenty to say against the Sadducees who put their service to God second to their service to making money and enjoying wealthy pastimes, it was the Pharisees upon whom Jesus heaped the hottest coals for their falsifications and rejection of the teachings of the Torah.

So can you see that although Jesus taught all of the Hebrews -- of which He was one of them -- he condemned what the Sadducee SECT and the Pharisee SECT and the Scribal SECT were teaching and corrupting. Thus, Jesus was a Hebrew but he was not a Sadducee or a Pharisee or a Scribe. The Hebrew faith encompassed all of these SECTS. And Jesus taught all of them although he was not a member of any of these SECTS. Why would Jesus be a member of a small sect when His Message was for all of the Hebrews and not just some of them?

Once you understand this, then the next step is to ask, "Then what are the Jews?"

The history plays out this way: After Jesus was crucified by the Pharisees and some of the Saducees (who had bribed and blackmailed Pontius Pilot), these SECTS prospered under Roman rule for another 70 years. But their intrigues against Rome and open rebellions and murders of Roman citizens and soldiers finally forced Rome to act. As punishment for the Hebrews of Judea, Rome attacked Jerusalem and plundered the city in 70 AD and prohibited any Hebrews from ever again setting foot inside that city. All Hebrews in the city were either put to the sword or enslaved in the mines and Roman galleys. And all Hebrews in all of Palestine were ordered to leave and never come back. And from that time the Hebrews began to fan our across the Middle East and Europe in what they call the Diaspora.

With their spiritual center of Jerusalem destroyed, what Hebrews who were able to escape and those who were not in the city itself, ran off to the surrounding regions to regroup. Of course, they asked themselves why God had punished them so much. The Sadducees, being believers in the Torah, concluded that in fact they had mistakenly crucified the Messiah. And so, the Sadducees converted to Christianity and disappeared from history as a SECT of Hebrewism.

But the Pharisees, being obstinate of heart and corrupt in virtue, and not believing in the clear signs of the Torah as to who the Messiah would be, thought of themselves as superior to the teachings of the Torah. So, these rabbis concluded that they had been destroyed by Rome as a test of their faith in their understanding of the "Tradition of the Elders". This Tradition was an ORAL teaching of the rabbis and which they had elevated to holiness by a belief that these had been secret teachings given orally to Moses, whispered into Moses' ear by God, Himself, and thus superior to the written teachings in the Torah.

And so, these Pharisees regrouped and continued the teachings that had been condemned by Jesus as the works of the devil. And since the Saduceees had been converted to Christianity, and the Essenes had been destroyed by the Roman legions, the Pharisees found themselves as the sole inheritors of the Hebrew belief system. And as the sole inheritors of the Torah and the oral Tradition of the Elders, they assumed leadership of all of the remaining Hebrews who followed the teachings of Moses and not the teaching of Jesus.

These Pharisees wandered across the eastern Mediterranean and Mesopotamia in search of a place to live, since they were forbidden to return to Jerusalem or the country of Judah. And so, they were often asked by the native people, "Who are you and where do you come from?" They did not say that they were Pharisees or Jerusalemites who were condemned by both Christians and Romans. They said that they were from the land of Judea. And they became known as Judeans or, using a shorter pronunciation, Jews.

And so, you can now see that Jesus was not a Jew. And that the Jews of today are the very SECT whom Jesus condemned the most. And this is why the Jews hate Jesus and Christianity to this very day because they are the very ones whom Jesus called, "liars, deceivers, hypocrites, murderers and the very children of the devil". The Jews of today are the Pharisees without change, teachings the same evils and vices as they did from those ancient times.

And this is why the Jews hate and slander the Ku Klux Klan because the Klansmen believe what Jesus said about the Jews.

When someone says, "Oh look!" and points to the moon, people naturally look at the moon and not at he who points. The Jews are experts at pointing their fingers at others to avoid being seen as they are.

That the Jews were the primary slave traders all throughout European history up to and including the American Civil War, is something that they hide behind their hypocritical masquerade of being the "friends of black people against white oppression". And so, today, in Jewish media you will find that the Jews point their fingers at the KKK for being "anti-Negro". But in their lies and hypocrisy, they are actually trying to cover up the fact that they were the one's who sold the black slaves to the white Americans in the days when slavery was still legal. And they want to blame others for their own sins while hiding the fact that it was white Christians who freed the slaves, fighting a Civil War that cost a million white people their lives for the sake of freeing the Negros. And they oppose the Klan because the Klan believes what Jesus said about the Jews.

That the Jews were the monopoly owners of the slave trade throughout Europe, the Mediterranean and North Africa since pre-Roman times up to and including the slave trade of both North and South American, they hide behind their crocodile tears and their hypocritical grins while they lie and say that today they are the "fellow minority brothers" of the very people whom they enslaved, tortured and oppressed and say they are adamantly opposed to the "white man's oppression of their fellow minority people" -- this in the face of the facts that it was white Christians who ended slavery after it had been in this world since civilization began 12,000 years ago!

That the Jews were the sole propriators of the Opium Monopoly that ravaged China and destroyed the lives and fortunes of tens of millions of Chinese, they cover up with the lie that it was the British who spread opium into China and not Jews and only Jews working under British passport. And then to protect the Opium Monopoly of their fellow Jews in India and China, the Jews of England forced the English government into two Opium Wars against China.

That the Jews were the originators, inventors, promoters, financial backers and profiteers in the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia, they hide behind the lie that they were only revolutionary Russians and not that they were Jews living in Russia and Jews financing the whole revolution from Wall Street banking houses. Mao Tse-Tung did not found the Chinese Communist Party which resulted in the murder and enslavement of a billion Chinese. It was founded by two Jews from Russia.

To cover up the fact that Jewish Communism by even the most conservative estimates of the Communist historians, themselves, is responsible for the death of one hundred million people since 1917, the Jews promote a fraud that tries to make six million Jews more important than the one hundred million that they are responsible for murdering, starving and torturing.

Now, do you understand why Jesus was not a Jew?

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Obama is the miscegenated bastard of a white communist whore. True story.

X-15  posted on  2010-07-01   20:20:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

i love a good debate, but bickering about religion is one thing i have very little interest in. particularly on the internet. that doesn't mean i think everone is correct in their own beliefs though, because that's indifferentism / relativism, which i strongly disapprove of. the freemasons are big on that. i'm reading a book on it now, by an ex 33 degree mason. fascinating & sick stuff.

"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html

Artisan  posted on  2010-07-01   20:29:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Nice story, but where are the references? Anybody can write a story, in fact, I could write a story how the earth was created by a magi sitting in a spaceship, doesn't mean it's true.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-01   20:32:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're stupid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-01   20:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

the title should have been "..NOT A JEW"

You're stupid too.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-01   20:35:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Jesus was a Palestinian.

You're really stupid.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-01   20:35:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Please, let's cut through the crap.

Jesus was the only-begotten Son of God.

Those who deny christ before men will be denied by the father.

You are on the right side. If I had a chocolate chip cookie I would give you one.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-01   20:37:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Paul was an agent of Rome, and never met Jesus

You're stupid too. And a blasphemer.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-01   20:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're a heretic.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-01   20:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

...bickering about religion is one thing i have very little interest in.

Especially on Canada Day.

wudidiz  posted on  2010-07-01   20:56:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're stupid too. And a blasphemer.

You're an idiot, and possessed by the devil.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-01   20:58:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Let me guess, you think that Paul had one on one conversations with Jesus, eh?

Paul never met Jesus, in fact he WAS a Roman agent while Jesus was alive. You don't even know your own religion.

FormerLurker  posted on  2010-07-01   21:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your witty commentary really brings something special to the site. If we can't have yukon, at least we've got you.

JRiggs  posted on  2010-07-01   21:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well Riggs. Saying Jesus wasn't a Jew is kind of stupid, or ignorant at best. So I can't call them smart.

A K A Stone  posted on  2010-07-01   21:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Well Riggs. Saying Jesus wasn't a Jew is kind of stupid, or ignorant at best.

You know Stone, I have to agree with you here.

JRiggs  posted on  2010-07-01   21:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Here are the Jews acknowledging Jesus as one of their own.

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"Let them all pass all their dirty remarks (One Love)
There is one question I'd really love to ask (One Heart)
Is there a place for the hopeless sinner
Who has hurt all mankind just to save his own?"

Bob Marley

AGAviator  posted on  2010-07-01   22:10:10 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Interesting thing about that. If you were to read the Gospels in the order in which they were written, you'd notice that in the first one, Mark, it's the Romans who are the villians. Under most circumstances, earlier sources are more accurate than later ones.

With the passage of time, each additional Gospel shifted more of the blame to the Jews, until by the time John was written poor old Pontius Pilate was as much of a victim of the Jews as was Jesus.

Writers tailor their material to the times they're writing in, and the old timers were no different. As Christianity grew as a religion, the hostility between it and Judaism became more pronounced.

JRiggs  posted on  2010-07-01   22:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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