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Title: Florida church’s ‘Burn a Koran Day’ brings Islamist threats
Source: Raw Story
URL Source: http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0731/ch ... ondemn-churchs-burn-koran-day/
Published: Aug 1, 2010
Author: Daniel Tencer
Post Date: 2010-08-01 20:14:37 by abraxas
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Views: 6240
Comments: 72

Florida church’s ‘Burn a Koran Day’ brings Islamist threats

By Daniel Tencer Saturday, July 31st, 2010 -- 8:04 pm The controversy over the construction of a mosque near Ground Zero in Manhattan has sparked a wave of anti-Muslim activism among some conservative and religious groups, and nowhere is that more in evidence than in a non-denominational church's plan to hold a "Burn a Koran Day" on the next anniversary of the 9/11 attacks.

Muslim advocacy groups and evangelical Christian organizations alike have condemned the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, Florida, for its plans to commemorate the ninth anniversary of the 9/11 attacks with a day for burning Islam's holy book. And at least one jihadist organization has promised revenge if the event goes ahead as planned.

"On September 11th, 2010, from 6pm - 9pm, we will burn the Koran on the property of Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville, FL in remembrance of the fallen victims of 9/11 and to stand against the evil of Islam," says the church's Facebook page. "Islam is of the devil!"

The church has drawn condemnation from the National Association of Evangelicals, which said in a statement that "Burn a Koran Day" shows "disrespect for our Muslim neighbors and would exacerbate tensions between Christians and Muslims throughout the world."

“It sounds like the proposed Koran burning is rooted in revenge," NAE President Leith Anderson said. "Yet the Bible says that Christians should ‘make sure that nobody pays back wrong for wrong, but always try to be kind to each other and to everyone else’ The church's plans have grabbed the attention of the Islamist movement. Members of the al-Falluja online forum have reportedly promised to "spill rivers of your (American) blood" if the event goes forward.

But the church is holding steadfast in its position.

"We believe that Islam is ... causing billions of people to go to hell, it is a deceptive religion, it is a violent religion and that is proven many, many times," Pastor Terry Jones told CNN.

The church has also stirred controversy with its plans to protest Gainesville Mayor Craig Lowe, who is openly gay. And some former church members have accused the leadership of using the church's tax-exempt status for profit.

The Gainesville Sun reported earlier this month:

Former church members who have worshiped under senior pastors Terry and Sylvia Jones are speaking out about what they describe as financial abuses at the Dove World Outreach Center in Gainesville and its sister church in Cologne, Germany, founded by Terry Jones in 1981 and closed in 2008.

By all accounts - the church's Web site, interviews with current and former members and Terry Jones' own description - the church in Gainesville, as was the one in Germany, is structured with a for-profit business operating out of tax-exempt church property, using the unpaid labor of church members to maintain a steady stream of merchandise for sale online.

That structure has raised questions with the Alachua County Property Appraiser's Office, which has said it will investigate the church's tax-exempt status.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-01   20:17:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Following the example of Jesus by sticking a finger in the eye of sinners.

That's what I was thinking. Just doing onto others as they would have done to them, right?

abraxas  posted on  2010-08-01   20:19:52 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-01   20:33:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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As well, I'm disturbed by the proliferation of formal Islam in the states, but largely only because our FedGov, largely initiated under Junior, and now continued under Hussein, is pushing it.

Problem is you can't have freedom of religion and then rush in and stop a "proliferation" of a certain religion.

In many ways, the Muslims have a modesty that Christians might want to aspire to regain. All whom I have known have been kind and honest people, who teach their children fantastic values. My sister has had two exchange students, both Muslim. Initially, this concerned her and her husband, but now they intend to REQUEST Muslims because they are SO respectful and such good kids. They are told to do a chore ONCE and they always do it like clock work. They really respect all elders and strive to make their parents, even temporary parents, proud of them.

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Eric Stratton  posted on  2010-08-01   23:48:07 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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In many ways, the Muslims have a modesty that Christians might want to aspire to regain. All whom I have known have been kind and honest people, who teach their children fantastic values. My sister has had two exchange students, both Muslim. Initially, this concerned her and her husband, but now they intend to REQUEST Muslims because they are SO respectful and such good kids. They are told to do a chore ONCE and they always do it like clock work. They really respect all elders and strive to make their parents, even temporary parents, proud of them.

I avoid blanket statements like that. I've seen a pretty normal curve for the most part.

Well, Eric, I'll have to say that, in general terms, I have to concur with abraxas' "blanket statement."

Although we see the abuse of women and a harsh civil code in many states under Muslim rule that we would rebel under, what abraxas says reflects my experience in living in the Middle East with respect to an attitude of personal modesty among adults and respect and obedience among the young.

What's left out of the equation here is that a bare couple of generations ago, people in the West were raised to the same standards. That was before we were inundated with the culture of rebellion and extended adolescence that now engulfs us.

My granddaddy back in the old country had four daughters. Like young women everywhere his daughters were fond of gossip and they loved to chat at the dinner table. My mother told me that when the chatter got out of hand, the old man would "look up" and that would be enough to can the discussion. Children were to be seen and not heard, and parents' words were law.

That is how it is in the Middle East, by and large, and what you see there is an artifact perhaps less of religion than it is of a traditional culture and set of attitudes about family that we have let go by the wayside -- for good or ill.

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