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Title: Baby Cheyenne returned to parents after Rochester hearing: Parents can't comment, but dad happy after hearing protested by Oath Keepers
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URL Source: http://www.fosters.com/apps/pbcs.dl ... GJNEWS_01/710159937/-1/fosnews
Published: Oct 15, 2010
Author: Aaron Sanborn
Post Date: 2010-10-15 19:19:09 by christine
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Views: 266
Comments: 33

DOVER — Exiting Rochester Family Court into the midst of roughly 100 protesters on Thursday, Johnathan Irish clearly had something to smile about.

The court had just held a hearing on the future of Cheyenne, the infant daughter of Irish and Stephanie Taylor, who was taken into the custody of the New Hampshire Division of Children, Youth and Families shortly after her birth on Thursday, Oct. 7.

Neither would comment about the hearing's outcome, citing state confidentiality laws.

"I would love to comment, but we can't," Taylor said.

However, Irish used a smile to indicate the hearing's outcome.

"A picture's worth a thousand words. What's a smile worth?" he asked.

Prior to Thursday's hearing, Irish denied DCYF claims that Cheyenne could be in danger.

The Epsom couple's case has made national headlines in the last few days because of the Oath Keepers connection that was referenced in affidavit.

About 100 people gathered in front of the Strafford County Superior Court on Thursday to protest a reference that was made to the Oath Keepers organization in an affidavit related to the local child custody case.

The Oath Keepers, are a group that pledges to defend the Constitution and to oppose government tyranny.

They group was referenced in a DCYF affidavit as a political affiliation of Irish.

Those who attended Thursday's protest were outraged that an affiliation with the Oath Keepers would be mentioned in an affidavit related to a child custody case.

The affidavit for the case is sealed and Oath Keepers only provided the excerpt of the affidavit that referenced them. That excerpt allegedly states, "The Division (DCYF) became aware and confirmed that Mr. Irish associated with a militia known as the, "Oath Keepers," and had purchased several different types of weapons, including a rifle, handgun and Taser."

"This is not just a child custody case, it's about the First Amendment," said Oath Keepers founder and President Stewart Rhodes.

Rhodes and the Oath Keepers issued a demand letter to DCYF on Thursday asking for the removal of Oath Keepers from the affidavit.

"We wouldn't be here and this wouldn't be a national issue if our name wasn't in there," he said.

Maggie Bishop, the director of DCYF, has gone on record saying that allegations that the state seized the newborn girl over her father's political affiliations don't reflect the division's policies.

Bishop has declined to discuss the specifics of the case because of confidentiality requirements.

The newborn, Cheyenne, was taken by DCYF officials hours after her birth last Thursday at Concord Hospital.

It has been reported that the DCYF affidavit stated there was a lengthy history of domestic violence between Irish and the baby's mother.

Rhodes said he wasn't concerning himself with the child custody case; his concern is strictly about his group being associated with the case. He fears that people will be hesitant to join the group after hearing about this case.

Rhodes said he would file a lawsuit if the organization's name isn't removed from the affidavit.

"This is a very important case," he said. "We can't have a precedent set that allows them to list people's affiliations whenever CPS (child protective services) comes to your doorstep."

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#3. To: christine (#0)

Johnathon Irish, Stephanie and Cheyenne- Reunited

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-10-15   21:16:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: GreyLmist (#3)

Johnathon Irish, Stephanie and Cheyenne- Reunited

Ahh .... Isn't that cute?

One thing you forgot to bring up is how Stephanie gave up two earlier children because of her own neglect. And Johnny? In the past he has a long string of known violence about him and has refused therapy.

What makes you think Cheyenne has a chance in HELL to survive?

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-15   21:30:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: buckeroo (#4)

you think a guy should be mandated 'therapy' by the state if he has a temper? eegads buck. give me a break with such bullshit. hell, you yourself should be in a straightjacket if those standards would apply. that is feminist b.s. mandated therapy . 'anger management classes'. taught by little social workers. fuck. give me a break with that b.s.

Artisan  posted on  2010-10-16   0:14:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Artisan (#5)

you think a guy should be mandated 'therapy' by the state if he has a temper?

Irish has been lucky so far. Some of his violent rampages have gone unnoticed and only the tip of the iceberg has been demonstrated in court and the rulings .. are far too lenient. His therapy classes were court mandated; please recognize that when you or anyone go to court for repeated similar offenses ... something is very wrong.

If I had been the judge of his earlier wanton violent streaks, he would have been incarcerated.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-16   14:29:34 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: buckeroo (#11)

His therapy classes were court mandated; please recognize that when you or anyone go to court for repeated similar offenses ... something is very wrong

I don't believe in court madated therapy classes. that could be a thread in itself. if a man commits a crime, against person or property, put him to trial and if convicted, give him a real sentence and make him pay restitution. therapy as a sentence is bogus.

Artisan  posted on  2010-10-17   15:13:20 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Artisan (#16)

I don't believe in court madated therapy classes. that could be a thread in itself. if a man commits a crime, against person or property, put him to trial and if convicted, give him a real sentence and make him pay restitution. therapy as a sentence is bogus.

The court orders in this case are purely local in nature and are up to the judge of the case. Obviously, it was felt that Irish possessed some redeeming social qualities so as to NOT imprison him but instead seek some sort of remedial action such as counseling to some degree.

But he violated that same court order. In fact Irish is such a maniac that he ran around lying about the Oath Keepers to begin with. Check this out:

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-17   15:38:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: buckeroo, 4 (#18)

I think this video has stopped, immediately, any interest I may have had in this wing-nut family.

People! you've had your fifteen minutes, now go away.

Lod  posted on  2010-10-17   15:54:31 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Lod, GreyLmist (#20)

People! you've had your fifteen minutes, now go away.

Yeah and that poor baby is going to experience a lifelong series of neglect and abuse; forget the PHOTO-OP in post#3 of the thread; that was for show and tell for about 30 seconds.

buckeroo  posted on  2010-10-17   16:12:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: buckeroo, Lod, GreyLmist (#22)

People! you've had your fifteen minutes, now go away.

Yeah and that poor baby is going to experience a lifelong series of neglect and abuse; forget the PHOTO-OP in post#3 of the thread; that was for show and tell for about 30 seconds.

It may not be ideal, but it is certainly no worse, and likely better, than putting the child in a succession of Foster Homes, medicating them into a haze, and then calling it "good" care.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-17   16:22:48 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Original_Intent, buckeroo, 4 (#23)

There are some who should not be allowed to have pets, much less offspring.

Lod  posted on  2010-10-17   16:26:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Lod (#24)

I agree, no argument. The point though is what is the alternative? From what is seeping out about 2/3 of kids put under state care wind up on some form of mind control/mood control Psychotropic medication and/or Ritalin (or its lookalikes).

The care in the current State Run system is no better than what a stray dog receives, if not worse.

Original_Intent  posted on  2010-10-17   16:45:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Original_Intent (#25) (Edited)

From what is seeping out about 2/3 of kids put under state care wind up on some form of mind control/mood control Psychotropic medication and/or Ritalin (or its lookalikes).

This is from the Comments section of the YouTube video that buck posted at #18:

"If they get you on [a] drug related to mental illness=there goes your 2nd amendment right. So if they catch this generation comin up America will cease to be what was."

GreyLmist  posted on  2010-10-18   8:35:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#31. To: GreyLmist (#30)

there goes your 2nd amendment right

Bullshit ! I know that's what "they'd like to have people believe ... rights must be used to preserve them. They will pass laws, create chaos and even use mind controlled nut-jobs to disarm us. Our mission, should we accept it, is to piss on their graves !

The right to self-defense didn't originate under the CON-sti-stupid ... it is innate, it's an inherent and natural right, psychiatrists be damned !

noone222  posted on  2010-10-18 08:42:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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