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Published: Oct 29, 2010
Author: Br Kapner
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#50. To: Artisan (#47)
Have you been paying attention for the past 10 years or so? I've posted about the "dancing Israelis", the treachery involved in the bombing of the Marine barracks over in Lebanon and how Israel was more than likely behind it, the horror of what is being inflicted on the Palestinian people, along with countless other things. I'm not a Jew, yet I have no inbred hatred of them. I am against what the NATION of Israel does in terms of evil deeds, what ZIONISTS CHRISTIANS have done in support of those deeds, as well as what Israeli Jews have done in carrying out those deeds. Thing is some of you folks feel that it's either "you're with us or against us". If someone has a different point of view in terms of religion, then they must be satanic or some shit, yet so-called Christians have caused more horror on this earth in the name of Christ than most of the world's other religions combined. Sure the Jews and the Muslims have done their share of horrible things, and continue to do so. Thing is, they don't have a monopoly on it. That I've studied spiritual matters derived from the foundations of your own religion should not scare you or cause you to view me differently, if anything, you should try to understand things beyond the veil, and find truth on your own rather than being told to accept whatever is fed to you or you'll "burn in hell". No caring and loving God would do such a thing as damn people to eternal suffering, and that is part of the problem, many of you folks think that he would and help "him" do exactly that using your own methods and forms of punishment. Do you even know ANYTHING at all about the Kabbalah? If anything, it touches upon a fountain of spiritual knowledge that has been known for eons of time, where those who followed it were peaceful people who only wished to co-exist peacefully with Nature and live in harmony with that which exists within and beyond our material world. That it has been twisted and distorted into other things is human nature. Yet any person can find the truth in it if he or she wants to, and by so doing, finds there is more to this Universe than what is written in books.
Do you know the difference between a religion and a country? As to your question, Israel is a "Jewish State" wherein there is no separation between religion and country. Arabs, Christians or any other race/religion are second class citizens at best. You ask if others know the difference between a religion and a country, but within the country we are discussing there is no differnce. It is a "Jewish state" despite pretending to be a democracy.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
"Does not their Talmud say, and do not their rabbis write, that it is no sin to kill if a Jew kills a heathen, but it is a sin if he kills a brother in Israel? It is no sin if he does not keep his oath to a heathen. Therefore, to steal and rob, as they do with their usury, from a heathen is a divine service. For they hold that they cannot be too hard on us nor sin against us, because they are of the noble blood and circumcised saints; we, however, are cursed goyim. And they are the masters of the world, and we are their servants, yea, their cattle... Jewish History, Jewish Religion The Weight of Three Thousand Years by Professor Israel Shahak
"There is no compulsion in religion," – Holy Qur'an ----------- Muhammad (swt) reportedly said: * He, who is a parasite to others, shall be condemned in the eyes of God, the Almighty.--------------------- " It’s immoral and cowardice to ask Muslims not to resist foreign aggression. ---------------- If Muslims leave the Zionist Jews alone - they would destroy Islamic culture as they did with Judaism and Christianity - Henry Makow, PhD. -------------------- Talmud is the most hateful religious literature in the world - professor Israel Shahak
yes it does still formerlurker thinks they are G_d's "chosen people" go figure
Should we be surprised that Jews lie about the racist and anti-Christian statements in the Talmud in lieu of the above Talmud citation? Absolutely not. They are commanded to mislead and lie to Christians when a Christian asks if the Talmud contains anything against them. Zohar (1, 160a): Jews MUST ALWAYS try to deceive Christians. "The heirs of the Pharisees often deny the existence of the Talmud passages here cited, in order to brazenly claim that such passages are the 'fabrications of anti-semites.'" - Michael Hoffman II "Judaism's Strange gods," p.72 "In 1994, Rabbi Tzvi Marx, director of Applied Education at the Shalom Hartman Institute in Jerusalem, made a remarkable admission concerning how Jewish rabbis in the past have issued two sets of texts: the authentic Talmudic texts with which they instruct their own youth in the Talmud schools (yeshiviot) and "censured and amended" versions which they disseminate to gullible non-Jews for public consumption." Michael Hoffman II, "Judaism's Strange gods," pg.71
"There is no compulsion in religion," – Holy Qur'an ----------- Muhammad (swt) reportedly said: * He, who is a parasite to others, shall be condemned in the eyes of God, the Almighty.--------------------- " It’s immoral and cowardice to ask Muslims not to resist foreign aggression. ---------------- If Muslims leave the Zionist Jews alone - they would destroy Islamic culture as they did with Judaism and Christianity - Henry Makow, PhD. -------------------- Talmud is the most hateful religious literature in the world - professor Israel Shahak
And Saudi Arabia and many other Middle Eastern countries are Muslim states, and many European nations are basically Christian states. So? What I find odd is that people who I normally find to be level headed get all hateful towards anything concerning the origins of their own religion, ie. there WOULD be no Christianity without the Old Testament and the prophecy of a Messiah. Yet people link the ancient origins of their own religion to a fairly recently formed country which they don't like, with good reason, but the country does not define the religion, nor does the religion define the country. Zionism may or may not be classified as a religion, but it certainly isn't Judaism, it's political in nature, and not what constitutes the Jewish faith.
Did you get that off a Jew hate board? The Zohar has NOTHING to do with crap like that, and any person who cares about truth would know that. The more I read here, the more sickened I am. Sometimes I wonder if I should just stand back and let everyone fight it out and kill each other, thing is, you folks ALWAYS drag the innocent down with you, just as in Iraq, Afghanistan, and a myraid number of other spots around the world throughout history where the ignorant have led the way to the slaughter of millions of innocent people.
You know what I REALLY think? I think religious zealots such as you are the cause of most of the evil on this earth. The Jews lied, the Christians lied, and the Muslims lied. They are ALL fucking crazy, and prefer death and suffering over life and peace. Go at it, do yourselves in. You most certainly deserve each other. In fact, isn't it your sort of "pastor" who calls the Jews "God's chosen"? Aren't you a Hagee worshipper? Myself, I think we are all children of the Creator, yet most are obviously his bastard children from some failed attempt at creating something special.
but the country does not define the religion, nor does the religion define the country. Zionism may or may not be classified as a religion, but it certainly isn't Judaism, it's political in nature, and not what constitutes the Jewish faith. Yes. The only difference is that these Muslim countries don't pretend to be democracies. They admit and are proud to be Muslim theocracies. Israel, on the other hand, pretends to be a democracy but the Jewish state is yet another ME theocracy. The religion most definitely does define the Jewish State. There is no argument regarding this fact, save for one you are attempting to make that makes no sense. Israel is a JEWISH state, hence defined by the Jewish religion. Zionism is the state of Israel and Israel is a Jewish State. It is the political extention of the Jewish religion. You are making some distinctions that defy logic.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
The Zohar is doesn't state that. However, the Talmud most definitely does teach that.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
Show me where in the Old Testament God orders the Israelis to kill Palestinians in order to occupy the land, and torment them mercilessly. Does it say that in your Bible? I can't seem to find it in the versions I've seen. Show me where in the Old Testament it is ordered that an IDF be created, funded by an American state of so-called Christians. However, I CAN find references to "God" ordering "his children" to kill all the men, women, children, even the infants of their enemies. Of course their animals were condemned to die as well. Here's the KJV rendition of the verse (1 Samuel 15:3); More than likely the "Israelites" decided they needed "God" to not only approve of what they intended to do, they decided they wanted God to ORDER them to do it. What a convenient way to get away with genocide. Hence, Christianity is utter crap since the Old Testament IS pure BS, and whatever "New" version that exists is pure BS as well since it was based upon that "Old" which everyone thinks is satanic anyways by their own admission.
Let us go down after the Philistines by night and spoil them until the mornigh light, and let us not leave a man of them. Samuel, xiv, 36. The remnant of the Philistines shall perish, saith the Lord God. Amos, i, 8. The day that cometh to spoil ALL the Philistines. Jeremiah, xlvii, 4.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
I've heard many Internet rumors which make that claim, but have not seen any definitive proof that it's true. I'm sure the fact the books are written in Hebrew (or Aramic) doesn't help clarify anything, and at this point it's clear that mainstream religions are false belief systems anyways, so anything is possible.
The remnant of the Philistines shall perish, saith the Lord God. Amos, i, 8. The day that cometh to spoil ALL the Philistines. Jeremiah, xlvii, 4. So then you admit that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam by inference) are false religions?
Research it. You can find accounts written by multiple Christian teachings, from Catholic to Methodist, detailing exactly what is stated in the Talmud. There was a great deal written about the topic at the turn at the Century and during WWI by from numerous sources. The Talmud became a topic of interest as Christians churches were burned by the thousands in Russia while Synagogues were increasing in numbers, also as the 2% Jewish population held 40% of all government jobs as communism was implemented. Where do you think that Rabbi in Israel gets his ideas that the goyim are just slaves for Jews and that they should have a long life, like a donkey, to do the heavy lifting for the Jewish people? Do you think the Rabbi just came up with a new teaching? It's all in the Talmud and to any person who has an iota of knowledge about the Talmud the Rabbi's comments aren't even surprising.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
You asked where the Biblical teachings were and I provided a few answers. I do not make that claim that the Abrahamic faiths are false religions because it is disrespectful to people who hold these beliefs as sacred. I think all relgions offer something of value for people and it is not for me to judge. However, I do note the hypocricy and cherry picking of Biblical verses or Koran quotes to justify despicable behavior. Personally, I think the Christian faith would be lovely if people opted to follow the Sermon on the Mount. Sadly, few do.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
actually, i do. i always encourage dialogue & am one of the most diplomatic peacemaking posters here, if i can say so myself :-) i dont know about kaballah, other than its some sort of jewish mysticism taught in public schools in los angeles. & i knew you were into it, which doesn't mean i was accusing you of being a zionist jew, The broader note - peoples religion here, or lack thereof doesn't really concern me. i understand youre offended when you constantly see 'jew bashing' posts at 4um. you remind that Christians should be loving. That's a good point. However- when you constantly couple that point with your 'Religion is superstitious garbage, Christianity is a controlling farce, the bible is fictional nonsense' rhetoric, your previously valid points will be immediately rejected, as you attack the personal faith of your target audience. not an effective tactic at all.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 I bash those who bash others, and find that there is much hypocrisy going around. At this point I can just shake my head and see why this world will never be peaceful, as most would rather just love to hate and use whatever excuse they can find to focus and target that hate. My first words here on this thread were that I found it " absolutely hypocritical that those who claim to follow the Jewish Messiah not only hate the Jewish Messiah's religion, but the very people who follow that religion. " That people over time corrupted that religion and made it something it was not is besides the point, as not all people of that faith believe in the mainstream faith, and some even believe that Jesus is the Messiah, but in the form of a prophet. Many here hold the false belief that Judaism in general is about hating Christians. There WOULD be no Jesus Christ if it were not for the foundation of Judaism, since Judaism predicates the fact that Jesus is said to be the Son of the Father, and that Father is the God of the Old Testament. Folks can believe whatever they want to believe that they find in books or make up themselves, but the thing is, many then use those beliefs as a basis for their hatred, and actually launch wars and kill people over it. That is where the line is crossed, and where I no longer hold my tongue. The majority of the reason we are killing people in Iraq and Afghanistan isn't because Israel wants it done, but because "Christians" here in THIS country believe it HAS to be done. Must kill those nasty Mooselum sand niggers ya know.
I personally think I should just study Buddism and give up trying to help people who don't want help. What will happen will happen, no matter what.
but the people here who focus on the 'evil jews' are not by any means among the pro war side. that is why i thought your remark above about worshiping Hagee was odd. if the poster doesn't like zionist jews, they certainly dont like hagee, & they arent scared of muslims, etc. They have looked for the man behind the curtain, & found a 'jew scoundrel' behind many of the world's problems.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 in closing i will just reiterate that i acknowledge & concede your point that broadbrushing all jews & constantly obsessing on them is not proper .
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13 Jesus himself proclaimed the Pharisees to be "of their father, the devil" ... was Jesus using rhetoric and hyperbole ? [Today's Rabbis claim to be the result of an unbroken chain that can be traced back to these Pharisees.] Try this. Look to the Bible for the Promises God made to Abraham (or google it) where the notion of a chosen people occurred. If God makes a promise and doesn't keep it is he still God ? Or, is it possible that God made a promise and kept it but most aren't perceptive enough to see past the dogma or doctrine that like most propaganda has a way of obscuring the truth. (Which, by the way, God describes Himself as "The Truth"). If you research the many promises made to Abraham regarding his descendants THROUGH ISAAC, JACOB (AKA - ISRAEL) you'll find that those calling themselves Jews today cannot demonstrate having received EVEN ONE of the promises. God made numerous promises that have been fulfilled but not by those calling themselves Jews. I propose that the proof is in the pudding. It's also relevant to keep in mind several factors. There were 12 Tribes receiving these promises, not just the tribe of Judah. One promise was that the heirs of the promise would become many nations. Another was that they'd be so numerous you couldn't count them. (We've been counting every single Jew on earth for 100 plus years). They were promised to be a blessing to all nations on earth. What we call Jews today have been expelled from every country they have been allowed into for criminal acts of oppression. These are just a few things to look at. If you want to see those that have fulfilled the promises made to Abraham's descendants ... look at the International Quality of Life Index for the Top 12 Countries with the highest quality of life.
"Politics and Religion are the building blocks of slavery and oppression. Greed is the mortar that bonds them" and bankers are the masons with trowels in hand !
All jews in good standing are political victim cultists. Victim cultism is the philosophical infrastructure of zionism, along with bible myths.
Buddhism is a wonderful study. I highly recommend it. Compassion is central, which includes helping even those who don't want help. : ) However, Buddhism will help you offer a greater depth into what it means to "help" which may be contrary to prior considerations. This comes through the practice of mindfulness. I am especially fond of the koans becasue they are mental puzzles to ponder on for an extended period of time. The Dhammapada begins: We are what we think. All that we are arises with our thoughts. With our thoughts we make the world. PS Buddhism is more of a philosophy and way of life than a religion.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Judaism is founded on the Talmud. Ask any Jew, they will tell you the Talmud is their most holy book. So you see, you don't have a clue what you are talking about, but that doesn't stop you does it? Seen any UFOs lately? LOL!
God is always good!
So what is the Torah Ricky? Is it the satanic bible? Guess what. The Torah is the 1st five books of the Old Testament. You see, the Old Testament is a Jew thing, and since Jesus was the Messiah of the religion of the Old Testament, well, guess where that leaves you and what you believe.
Do you think Jesus was a Southern Baptist?
Got any YouTube videos of Jesus walking on water? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One last thing Ricky. When the SHTF, and there ARE lights in the sky and you don't know what they are, just cling to your Bible and ask Jesus for help. I'm sure that'll do you a bunch of good.
MODERN Zionist Jews and those who are not that bright might say the Talmud is the most Holy Book. Any TRUE religious Jew would say the TORAH is THE HOLIEST of BOOKS, since it is the word of Moses, who is the prophet who brought the people out of Egypt and received the 10 Commandments. Or, at least that's how the story goes. Embedded within the Hebrew of the Torah are entire bodies of knowledge using numerical codes, and those codes open the doors to the ORIGINAL TORAH, which was hidden from those who would misuse the knowledge contained therein.
The Roman Catholic Church defined Christianity. They wrote the New Testament. However, there is historical fact which disputes what they wrote. What do you think you know of Paul? Short story is, he had Jesus' followers rounded up and executed. Claiming to be an apostle, he wrote his version of the events, or someone writing under his name did. Those same authors or others, under supervision and authority of Rome, authored the OTHER Gospels as well.
LOL!! The infamous "when TSHTF" scenario is the always refereed to and eagerly looked for doomsday by the hysterics of both sides of the ideological aisle. You are right on only one thing, though. At the end of the age Christ will preserve His remnant. Guaranteed. Regardless of your 'TSHTF' bogyman.
Just keep believing that.
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one. "Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
The Talmud ("instruction, learning", from a root "teach, study") is a central text of mainstream Judaism, in the form of a record of rabbinic discussions pertaining to Jewish law, ethics, philosophy, customs and history.
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country. ... We are governed, our minds are molded, our tastes formed, our ideas suggested, largely by men we have never heard of." Edward Bernays, Father of Public Relations
In order for there to be true peace, which I define as a lack of a threat and not as a mere absence of conflict, then people need to have their right to be left alone honored and respected. That is what is keeping peace from being achieved. The abrahamic "faiths" do not respect or honor that right to be left alone. They're always butting in where they are not welcome. Their being butt-in-skis is a doctrinal imperative. This is why I have become a Satanist, or rather I always was one and didn't know it until recently. Satanism is (ideally) a religion of individualism. We go our own way. But as a grouping even that has its problems. Too many want to be a big fish in a very small pond. .
it sounds now like you're favorable to it, & i had thought you had posted that you had dabbled in it. i point this out because that would indicate your bias & defensiveness regarding the jews. no?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#51. To: FormerLurker (#23)
#52. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#53. To: Max (#52)
#54. To: Itistoolate (#0)
#55. To: abraxas (#51)
You ask if others know the difference between a religion and a country, but within the country we are discussing there is no differnce. It is a "Jewish state" despite pretending to be a democracy.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#56. To: Max (#54)
Zohar (1, 160a): Jews MUST ALWAYS try to deceive Christians.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#57. To: Itistoolate, Max (#53)
still formerlurker thinks they are G_d's "chosen people"
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#58. To: FormerLurker (#55)
And Saudi Arabia and many other Middle Eastern countries are Muslim states
#59. To: FormerLurker (#56)
The Zohar has NOTHING to do with crap like that
#60. To: abraxas (#58)
The religion most definitely does define the Jewish State. There is no argument regarding this fact, save for one you are attempting to make that makes no sense. Israel is a JEWISH state, hence defined by the Jewish religion.
Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
If anything, the more I read of the Old Testament the more I realize what utter crap it is, where NO loving God would do what is cited.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#61. To: FormerLurker (#60)
Show me where in the Old Testament God orders the Israelis to kill Palestinians in order to occupy the land, and torment them mercilessly.
#62. To: abraxas (#59)
However, the Talmud most definitely does teach that.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#63. To: abraxas (#61)
Let us go down after the Philistines by night and spoil them until the mornigh light, and let us not leave a man of them. Samuel, xiv, 36.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#64. To: FormerLurker (#62)
I've heard many Internet rumors which make that claim, but have not seen any definitive proof that it's true.
#65. To: FormerLurker (#63)
So then you admit that Judaism and Christianity (and Islam by inference) are false religions?
#66. To: FormerLurker (#50)
you should try to understand things
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#67. To: Artisan (#66)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#68. To: abraxas (#65)
Personally, I think the Christian faith would be lovely if people opted to follow the Sermon on the Mount. Sadly, few do.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#69. To: FormerLurker (#67)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#70. To: FormerLurker (#67)
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
#71. To: FormerLurker (#67)
(Edited)
Many here hold the false belief that Judaism in general is about hating Christians. There WOULD be no Jesus Christ if it were not for the foundation of Judaism, since Judaism predicates the fact that Jesus is said to be the Son of the Father, and that Father is the God of the Old Testament.
#72. To: FormerLurker (#23)
and not all Jews are Zionists
#73. To: FormerLurker (#68)
(Edited)
I personally think I should just study Buddhism and give up trying to help people who don't want help.
#74. To: FormerLurker (#17)
#75. To: FormerLurker (#44)
#76. To: FormerLurker (#4)
(Edited)
You see, Judaism is the religion of the Old Testament
#77. To: RickyJ (#76)
So you see, you don't have a clue what you are talking about, but that doesn't stop you does it? Seen any UFOs lately? LOL!
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#78. To: RickyJ (#76)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#79. To: RickyJ (#76)
Seen any UFOs lately? LOL!
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#80. To: RickyJ (#76)
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#81. To: RickyJ (#76)
Judaism is founded on the Talmud. Ask any Jew, they will tell you the Talmud is their most holy book.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#82. To: Eric Stratton (#74)
The Roman Catholic Church's teachings are so far off what those of Christ are and the reality of the situation that it's folly for me to even consider that premise.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#83. To: FormerLurker (#80)
#84. To: Brian D (#83)
You are right on only one thing, though. At the end of the age Christ will preserve His remnant. Guaranteed. Regardless of your 'TSHTF' bogyman.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#85. To: FormerLurker (#82)
#86. To: FormerLurker (#81)
Any TRUE religious Jew would say the TORAH is THE HOLIEST of BOOKS, since it is the word of Moses, who is the prophet who brought the people out of Egypt and received the 10 Commandments.
#87. To: FormerLurker, abraxas, artisan, all (#67)
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At this point I can just shake my head and see why this world will never be peaceful, as most would rather just love to hate and use whatever excuse they can find to focus and target that hate.
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#88. To: randge (#25)
I don't know, but Hebrew is related to Arabic for Whadi, or gully or drainage probably relating to the region of southern Yemen where the tribe appears to have originated. According to Arabic tradition, this tribe was the one to domesticate the camel, 2000 bc or so.
in Hebrew?
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#89. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#42)
Thanks for clearing that up. I was wondering.
That's old school "liberal" Christianity man! Today's "real" Christians know that Jesus was a God of War and that Christians have a duty to kill Muslim's and wipe them off of the face of the Earth while making the world safe for Democracy! Jesus was a Republican.
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#90. To: Eric Stratton (#85)
Who do you think wiped out the Essenes? BTW, what makes you think Paul was a "believer"? From ESSENE CHRISTIANITY VERSUS PAULIANITY In The Story of Christian Origins, Martin Larson writes: "Paul declares that... the Elect may even eat meat sacrificed to idols.... Whereas Jesus honored women and found in them His most devoted followers, Paul never tires of proclaiming their inferiority. He declares that, man is the head of the woman and she must always submit to his will.... Whereas the Essenes proclaimed equality among the Brethren [the Essenes were the first people on earth to condemn and forbid the practice of slavery], Paul repeatedly declares that Christian slaves must be obedient to their Christian masters." In one of the best books on early Christianity, Those Incredible Christians, Dr. Hugh Schonfield reports: "For the Apostolic Church much that Paul taught was grievous error not at all in accord with the mind and message of the Messiah. The original Apostles could urge that the truth was known by them. But Paul had never companied with Jesus or heard what he said day after day [remember: Paul had never even met Jesus], and Paul's visions were the delusions of this own misguided mind.... "It was not only the teaching and activities of Paul which made him obnoxious to the Christian leaders: but their awareness that he set his revelations above their authority and claimed an intimacy with the mind of Jesus, greater than that of those who had companied with him on earth and had been chosen by him.... It was an abomination, especially as his ideas were so contrary to what they knew of Jesus, that he should pose as the embodiment of the Messiah's will.... Paul was seen as the demon-driven enemy of the Messiah.... For the legitimate Church, Paul was a dangerous and disruptive influence, bent on enlisting a large following among the Gentiles in order to provide himself with a numerical superiority with the support of which he could set at defiance the Elders at Jerusalem. Paul had been the enemy from the beginning, and because he failed in his former open hostility he had craftily insinuated himself into the fold to destroy it from within." Paul did round up christians and kill them, before becoming a believer himself. Or have you got some other relatively concrete evidence to the contrary.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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