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Title: The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland no longer swear by truth of the Bible (edited title)
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TimesOnline (UK)
URL Source: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,13509-1811332,00.html
Published: Oct 4, 2005
Author: Ruth Gledhill, Religion Correspondent
Post Date: 2005-10-04 23:33:44 by robin
Keywords: Catholic, England,, Scotland
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Comments: 9
The Times October 05, 2005 THE hierarchy of the Roman Catholic Church has published a teaching document instructing the faithful that some parts of the Bible are not actually true. The Catholic bishops of England, Wales and Scotland are warning their five million worshippers, as well as any others drawn to the study of scripture, that they should not expect “total accuracy” from the Bible. “We should not expect to find in Scripture full scientific accuracy or complete historical precision,” they say in The Gift of Scripture. The document is timely, coming as it does amid the rise of the religious Right, in particular in the US. Some Christians want a literal interpretation of the story of creation, as told in Genesis, taught alongside Darwin’s theory of evolution in schools, believing “intelligent design” to be an equally plausible theory of how the world began. But the first 11 chapters of Genesis, in which two different and at times conflicting stories of creation are told, are among those that this country’s Catholic bishops insist cannot be “historical”. At most, they say, they may contain “historical traces”. The document shows how far the Catholic Church has come since the 17th century, when Galileo was condemned as a heretic for flouting a near-universal belief in the divine inspiration of the Bible by advocating the Copernican view of the solar system. Only a century ago, Pope Pius X condemned Modernist Catholic scholars who adapted historical-critical methods of analysing ancient literature to the Bible. In the document, the bishops acknowledge their debt to biblical scholars. They say the Bible must be approached in the knowledge that it is “God’s word expressed in human language” and that proper acknowledgement should be given both to the word of God and its human dimensions. They say the Church must offer the gospel in ways “appropriate to changing times, intelligible and attractive to our contemporaries”. The Bible is true in passages relating to human salvation, they say, but continue: “We should not expect total accuracy from the Bible in other, secular matters.” They go on to condemn fundamentalism for its “intransigent intolerance” and to warn of “significant dangers” involved in a fundamentalist approach. “Such an approach is dangerous, for example, when people of one nation or group see in the Bible a mandate for their own superiority, and even consider themselves permitted by the Bible to use violence against others.” Of the notorious anti-Jewish curse in Matthew 27:25, “His blood be on us and on our children”, a passage used to justify centuries of anti-Semitism, the bishops say these and other words must never be used again as a pretext to treat Jewish people with contempt. Describing this passage as an example of dramatic exaggeration, the bishops say they have had “tragic consequences” in encouraging hatred and persecution. “The attitudes and language of first-century quarrels between Jews and Jewish Christians should never again be emulated in relations between Jews and Christians.” As examples of passages not to be taken literally, the bishops cite the early chapters of Genesis, comparing them with early creation legends from other cultures, especially from the ancient East. The bishops say it is clear that the primary purpose of these chapters was to provide religious teaching and that they could not be described as historical writing. Similarly, they refute the apocalyptic prophecies of Revelation, the last book of the Christian Bible, in which the writer describes the work of the risen Jesus, the death of the Beast and the wedding feast of Christ the Lamb. The bishops say: “Such symbolic language must be respected for what it is, and is not to be interpreted literally. We should not expect to discover in this book details about the end of the world, about how many will be saved and about when the end will come.” In their foreword to the teaching document, the two most senior Catholics of the land, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O’Connor, Archbishop of Westminster, and Cardinal Keith O’Brien, Archbishop of St Andrew’s and Edinburgh, explain its context. They say people today are searching for what is worthwhile, what has real value, what can be trusted and what is really true. The new teaching has been issued as part of the 40th anniversary celebrations of Dei Verbum, the Second Vatican Council document explaining the place of Scripture in revelation. In the past 40 years, Catholics have learnt more than ever before to cherish the Bible. “We have rediscovered the Bible as a precious treasure, both ancient and ever new.” A Christian charity is sending a film about the Christmas story to every primary school in Britain after hearing of a young boy who asked his teacher why Mary and Joseph had named their baby after a swear word. The Breakout Trust raised £200,000 to make the 30-minute animated film, It’s a Boy. Steve Legg, head of the charity, said: “There are over 12 million children in the UK and only 756,000 of them go to church regularly. That leaves a staggering number who are probably not receiving basic Christian teaching.” BELIEVE IT OR NOT UNTRUE Genesis ii, 21-22 So the Lord God caused a deep sleep to fall upon the man, and while he slept he took one of his ribs and closed up its place with flesh; and the rib which the Lord God had taken from the man he made into a woman and brought her to the man Genesis iii, 16 God said to the woman [after she was beguiled by the serpent]: “I will greatly multiply your pain in childbearing; in pain you shall bring forth children, yet your desire shall be for your husband, and he shall rule over you.” Matthew xxvii, 25 The words of the crowd: “His blood be on us and on our children.” Revelation xix,20 And the beast was captured, and with it the false prophet who in its presence had worked the signs by which he deceived those who had received the mark of the beast and those who worshipped its image. These two were thrown alive into the lake of fire that burns with brimstone.” TRUE Exodus iii, 14 God reveals himself to Moses as: “I am who I am.” Leviticus xxvi,12 “I will be your God, and you shall be my people.” Exodus xx,1-17 The Ten Commandments Matthew v,7 The Sermon on the Mount Mark viii,29 Peter declares Jesus to be the Christ Luke i The Virgin Birth John xx,28 Proof of bodily resurrection JOIN THE DEBATE
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#1. To: The Christian Paradox posters (#0)
what do y'all think of this?
"When the government FEARS the People, there is liberty, but when the People fear the government, there is tyranny."
Not surprising. There *is* a science department at the Vatican and they did endorse Evolution in the 1960s. They *are* correct when they say that the Bible teaches "religious truth" and is not 100% historical - and it *does* have problems. Even Karl Keating of http://catholic.com - a LARGE apologetics orgo, concurs.
Awwww shit. Here we go again.
Not surprising. In the last days there will be a falling away from the church.
I will follow Him, follow
Him wherever He may go I must follow Him, ever since He touched my
hand I knew I love Him, I love Him, I love Him I will follow Him, follow Him wherever He may go I love Him, I love Him, I love Him I will follow Him, follow Him wherever He may go Do-do do-do-do do-do-do and where He goes
If a politician swears on the bible to do their duty to protect the country, and serve the people, then I'd sooner wipe my ass with the bible. Yes, that's right, I said it. People will lie, no matter what. Does anyone here think that God will stop anyone from lying? God lets people bury themselves in their own shit, or hang themselves with their own ropes. The reason? Free Will. The Bible is a joke to swear on, if the people we celebrate as our leaders piss on it. I'd sooner swear on a copy of Pilgrim's Progress. At least I could be pliable enough to tell the truth.
#2. To: christine (#1)
Blasphemy..
#3. To: christine (#1)
#4. To: christine (#1)
what do y'all think of this?
#5. To: christine (#1)
#6. To: christine (#1)
I think the words of Little Peggy Marsh are appropriate.
Apologies to all you youngins.
There isn't an ocean too deep
A mountain so
high it can keep me away
That near Him I always must be
And nothing can keep Him
from me
He is my destiny
And
where He goes I'll follow, I'll follow, I'll follow
He'll always be my
true love, my true love, my true love
From now until forever, forever,
forever
There isn't
an ocean too deep
A mountain so high it can keep, keep me away
Away
from my love
And where He
goes I'll follow, I'll follow, I'll follow
He'll always be my true love,
my true love, my true love
From now until forever, forever, forever
There isn't an ocean
too deep
A mountain so high it can keep, keep me away
Away from my
love
I'll follow, I'll
follow, I'll follow
I know I'll always love Him
#7. To: christine, OKCSubmariner, tom007, neil mciver, zipporah, honway, itsalmosttoolate, all, *You Gotta Be Shitting Me* (#0)
 | So many morons, so few bullets. |
#8. To: robin (#0)
Galileo made an interesting comparison between the works of God, as observed in nature, with the words of God, in the Bible, in a letter to a friend a few months before his fateful trial before the Inquisition: "I ask why it is that, in order to arrive at an understanding of the different parts of the world, we must begin with the investigation of the Words of God, rather than of His Works. Is then the Work less venerable than the Word?"
The document shows how far the Catholic Church has come since the 17th century, when Galileo was condemned as a heretic for flouting a near-universal belief in the divine inspiration of the Bible by advocating the Copernican view of the solar system.
I've already said too much.
#9. To: MUDDOG (#8)
"I ask why it is that, in order to arrive at an understanding of the different parts of the world, we must begin with the investigation of the Words of God, rather than of His Works. Is then the Work less venerable than the Word?" Interesting quote, especially since Scripture is taken out of context and misapplied so often. Falwell's spiritual ancestors were among the jury, no doubt.
Galileo made an interesting comparison between the works of God, as observed in nature, with the words of God, in the Bible, in a letter to a friend a few months before his fateful trial before the Inquisition:
One if by land, two if by sea...how many if they are already here?
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