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Title: AZ Congresswoman assassination scenario has MKULTRA profile, drug & space target
Source: Examiner - Seattle Edition
URL Source: http://www.examiner.com/exopolitics ... ltra-profile-drug-space-target
Published: Jan 9, 2011
Author: Alfred Lambremont Webre
Post Date: 2011-01-09 15:11:36 by Original_Intent
Keywords: MK Ultra, Loughner, Wheeler, Diversion
Views: 4750
Comments: 104

The mass political assassination attack in Tucson, AZ on Saturday January 8, 2011 that as of 2:44 pm pst had left six people dead and eighteen shot were shot during the attack has a marked MKULTRA profile, and of suppression of drug cartel investigation and of expansion the U.S. space program as one of its effects.

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was reported in grave condition and in surgery at University Medical Center in Tucson, after the shooting in a Safeway supermarket parking lot.

One news report states,

“The suspect in the shooting of Congresswoman Giffords and others, Jared Loughner, posted a You Tube video three weeks ago indicating that "in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming!" as well as a MySpace post saying goodbye to friends.
 

“According to MSNBC, "Police say the shooter was in custody, and was identified by people familiar with the investigation as Jared Loughner, 22. Pima County Sheriff's officials said he used a pistol to carry out the shooting spree. U.S. officials who provided his name to the AP spoke on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to release it publicly."

“In a You Tube video attributed to Jared Lee Loughner, which was posted approximately about three weeks ago, Loughner states, in part:

“This video is my introduction to you! My favorite activity is conscience dreaming: the greatest inspiration for my political business information. Some of you don’t dream – sadly.

“In conclusion, my ambition – is for informing literate dreamers about a new currency; in a few days, you know I’m conscience dreaming! Thank you!

“The MSNBC report also indicates that federal law enforcement officials were analyzing Loughner's MySpace page after the shooting incident. According to MSNBC, "The MySpace page, which was removed within minutes of the gunman being identified by U.S. officials, included a mysterious 'Goodbye friends' message published hours before the shooting and exhorted his friends to 'Please don't be mad at me.'"

You Tube Video Channel of alleged assassin

The You Tube video channel of the 21-year-old alleged assassin, Mark Lee Loughner contains 5 brief recent videos, each of which contains MKULTRA type mind control material on the video.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Classitup10

These videos, apparently made by Mark Lee Loughner (apparently AKA Jared Loughner) himself, include the following:

1.  Hello by Mark Lee Loughner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uRjwPWaxiY

2.  My Final Thoughts: Jared Loughner
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nHoaZaLbqB4

3.  How to: Mind Controller
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnNx0WThoF0

MKULTRA and political assassinations

The preliminary profile of Mark Lee Loughner indicates that he may be a person going through genuine programming under MKULTRA by mind control methods and programming by on-the-ground MKULTRA agents designed to disorient the individual mind and turn the individual into a ‘Manchurian candidate’ type assassin.

A scholarly article on the MKULTRA program states,

“MKULTRA grew into a mammoth undertaking. The nature of the research included these specific problems:

•    Can we create by post-H (hypnotic) control an action contrary to an individual’s basic moral principles?
•    Can we “alter” a person’s personality? Can we guarantee total amnesia under any and all conditions?
•    Could we seize a subject and in the space of an hour by post-H control have him crash an airplane?
•    Can we devise a system for making unwilling subjects into willing agents and then transfer that control to untrained agency agents in the field by use of codes or identifying signs?

"In a 1971 Science Digest article [6], Dr. G.H. Estabrooks states, 'By the 1920’s clinical hypnotists learned to split certain individuals into multiple personalities like Jeckyl-Hydes. During WWII, I worked this technique with a Marine lieutenant I’ll call Jones. I split his personality into Jones A and Jones B. Jones A, once a ‘normal’ Marine, became entirely different. He talked communist doctrine and meant it. He was welcomed enthusiastically by communist cells, and was deliberately given a dishonorable discharge. Jones B was the deeper personality, knew all the thoughts of Jones A, and was ‘imprinted’ to say nothing during conscious phases. All I had to do was hypnotize him, get in touch with Jones B, and I had a pipeline straight into the Communist camp.' BB 167-169 For more on CIA mind control projects, click here."

http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol

Here are some good resources on the subject of electronic Mind Control, including the MKULTRA program:

http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrol

Mind control information center

http://www.wanttoknow.info/mindcontrolinformation

A major conference on the subject - Free Your Mind Conference - is planned for Philadelphia, PA, April 9-10, 2011

www.freeyourmindconference.com

MKULTRA assassination & drug cartel targeting of Rep. Gabrielle Giffords

Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was an outspoken opponent of the drug cartels operating and causing apparent violence in Mexico.

Please view this video of Rep Giffords on the floor of the U.S. Congress on September 23, 2010, calling for the dismantling of drug cartels:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X7wCpxIajmM&feature=player_embedded#

The conventional wisdom is that drug cartel violence in Mexico is indigenous to Mexico itself.

In interviews with knowledgeable Mexican sources in Mexico during the period Nov. 15-19, 2010, this reporter Alfred Lambremont Webre learned that what appears to be indigenous violence of Mexicans on Mexicans is indeed a part of a covert war directed by an international drug and finance cartel against North American society – Mexico, the United States and Canada – for purposes of reducing the populations in these nations to impoverished, rights-deprived slave-wagers in second-tier nations.

This ‘drug war’ strategy has been an ongoing strategy against sovereign nations since the covert war by this same international drug and finance cartel initiated the first of the Opium Wars against China during the reign of King George III (1738-1820) of the U.K.

A 392-page book DOPE INC describes the evidentiary history, composition, and methods of this international drug and finance cartel that is structured around the U.K. monarchy and specific noble bloodlines, and City of London financial bloodlines.

The operating methods of this international drug and financial cartel include assassination and control of MKULTRA assassination technology and teams in Mexico, the U.S., Canada, and elsewhere.
 
In order to download a free copy of the 392-page book DOPE INC., please go to this URL:

http://exopolitics.blogs.com/exopolitics/2010/04/dope-inc-britains-opium-war-against-the-us-pdf.html

It is both plausible and probable that Rep. Gabrielle Giffords was targeted and shot by an MKULTRA assassination operation under the ultimate direction of the international drug and finance cartel described in DOPE INC.

It should be noted that other potential causes of the assassination attack may have been a domestic right wing assassination against U.S. District Judge John Roll (who died in the attack) for his defense of illegal immigrant rights, and Sarah Palin's targeting of Rep. Giffords on a list of 20 Democrats to be "taken out" because of their support of the Obama Health Care Bill.

Space program targeted and affected

The U.S. space program and International Space Station is affected by the MKULTRA assassination attack on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords.

Rep. Giffords “has served as chairwoman of the House Space and Aeronautics Subcommittee and also holds seats on the House Science and Technology and Armed Services committees.”

Her husband, U.S. Navy Capt. Mark E. Kelly, 56, “is the scheduled commander of the 134th NASA shuttle flight, which is the last planned shuttle mission using the space shuttle Endeavour, set to launch April 1, 2011. He is a three-time veteran of shuttle missions.

“He will meet his twin brother, Scott Kelly, in space at the International Space Station (ISS), which he is commanding.

“Endeavour’s mission is to deliver spare parts including two S-band communications antennas, a high-pressure gas tank, additional spare parts for Dextre and micrometeoroid debris shields to the International Space Station ISS. The research center AMS-02 will also be transported for installation on the ISS.”

AZ MKULTRA assassination as a ‘false flag’

This reporter Alfred Lambremont Webre assisted Rep Henry B. Gonzalez (D-Tex.) in his successful attempt to establish the 1979 House Select Committee to investigate the assassinations of John F. Kennedy, Robert Kennedy, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., and Malcolm X.

It is highly probable, by the evidence, that MKULTRA teams accomplished each of these assassinations.

Each of these assassinations served as a ‘false flag attack’ upon the constitutional body politic on the U.S.

Among the public comments on news sites regarding the MKULTRA assassination attack against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords were sentiments like the following:

"get ready for stage 4 of the police state clampdown after this horrible event.... wouldn't be surprised to see martial law imposed and wouldn't be surprised if the shooter was a FBI patsy/ and this was yet another false flag event to take away more of our freedoms and liberties."

Pattern of increased state terrorism and attempted destabilization in 2011

To this reporter Alfred Lambremont Webre, there appears to be a pattern of increased, coordinated state terrorism at the beginning of 2011, ranging from a serious MKULTRA assassination attack on Rep. Gabrielle Giffords to a Jan 2011 HAARP attack on fish and birds worldwide.

One independent scientific expert on HAARP and electromagnetic weapons writes that the New Year’s January 2011 global fish and bird kill was similar to a HAARP bird kill near a U.S. Air Force base in Tennessee that this reporter Alfred Lambremont Webre exposed in 2001.

The scientists writes, “A similar case of dead birds falling from the sky on a smaller scale was reported near a closed nuclear power plant in Tennessee in 2001, and was linked to USAF electronic warfare:

References:

WJKM AM 1090 / CMR - BLASTED OFF THE AIR

"Hartsville, Tennessee, about 30 miles northeast of Nashville, where mysterious,
destructive power surge killed dozens of birds and damaged transmitter, phone
lines and computer equipment at country music radio station WJKM (1090 AM) on
Friday, July 6, 2001 at 10:45 a.m. CST."
http://www.greatdreams.com/1090wjkm.htm

U.S. Air Force Linked To Electronic Warfare Attack In Tennessee
http://www.haarp.net/tennessee.htm

“The fact that global investigations of the birds this week showed:
- birds killed in mid-air
- stomachs were empty (could not be poison)
- blunt trauma to organs, but no damage/indication of cause on outside of birds
- instant death to flocks of birds (local areas affected) indicate small
populations targeted
- no other animal/human deaths reported on ground/air therefore source of trauma
had to be in the air/sky for birds and in the water for fish [same technologies]
- small event deaths of small flocks of birds in local areas but reported around the world

over a two day period
- 2 million fish killed in Baltimore”

The scientist also states that the mysterious death of Mitre corporation employee John Wheeler, an expert on HAARP, appears to be related to the HAARP fish and bird kill over the New Year January 2011.

The scientist states, "’The former Army officer lived in New Castle and worked as a consultant for The Mitre Corporation, a nonprofit based in Bedford, Mass. [MIT], and McLean, Va. [CIA], that operates federally funded research and development centers.’

“The Jason scientists are the successors to the Manhattan Project scientists, and are paid through the MITRE Corporation.  They developed HAARP.  This is a direct link between this top level military contractor/advisor to US Presidents and HAARP development and applications.”

“Wheeler wrote an earlier military report on biological and chemical weapons, and recommended not using biological weapons.

“A cover story was released stating he was ‘distorientated and wearing just one shoe.’  However, photos just hours before he was killed show him in Washington, DC wearing a suit."

Cause of Mysterious bird deaths over Arkansas - Info vs. Disinfo

Below is an update from a colleague of this reporter:

"There are more reports in Sweden and Brazil, it’s a worldwide phenomena for sure and examination of specimens confirm trauma to vital organs... I personally still suspect HAARP activities due to these internal organ damage and no traces of poisons.

"UPDATE: A state veterinarian tells NBC that preliminary necropsy results from several birds show that they died of "multiple blunt trauma to their vital organs," though what caused the trauma remains uncertain. According to Dr. George Badley, their stomachs were empty, so they weren't poisoned, and they died in midair, not upon impact with the ground.

"This is an event that I feel compelled to follow and not let it slip by. Dead falling birds and Fish were reported in and Sweden too:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/article8370375.ab

"This update is important because the trauma that killed them happened in mid-air not on the ground. The official story from Louisiana says that they hit power lines--highly unlikely.

"More in NZ-

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10697906

"http://www.examiner.com/cultural-oddities-in-national/dead-fish-and-birds-hundreds-of-dead-birds-found-kentucky

Thus the bird and fish worldwide kill at first glance fits the profile of HAARP or other electromagnetic weapons or similar strike. 

How to evaluate this 2011 brief upswing in state terrorism destabilizing events

1.  Attempt to instill fear and set agenda – This upswing at the beginning of 2011appears a coordinated attempt by the international drug and finance cartel to instill fear and confusion in the human population and instill fear and set an agenda.

2.  The positive future 2011 – 2025 – In fact, the singularity at the core of our universe is emitting waves of enlightened unity consciousness that are accessible to all minds on Earth.  These waves are driving a constant and objective level toward positive future.

3.  Increased visibility and recognition of state terrorism – Whatever upswings in state terrorism are attempted in 2011 become occasions for the activated and enlightened portion of our human population to make the rest of the population aware that this state terrorism is designed by a very narrow international drug and financial cartel – DOPE INC – that is trying to keep themselves in power and their failing hold over the human population intact.



Poster Comment: I found this interesting and good background. The writer has done his homework and appears to know where the bodies are buried. Of course no one outside of the compartmentalized world of the psychotic psychiatric intelligence community has the full data on these mind control programs, but we can tell they exist both by what has leaked out, been reported in Congressional testimony, and by observing current actions.

While I always encourage people to think for themselves the data also speaks for itself. However horrible it may be to contemplate and confront the reality that there are people who will use others with no consideration different than if they were experimenting on a laboratory Rat it is unfortunately true that in this time and place there are people with that exact viewpoint and they are in positions of power and control. To not acknowledge and identify the problem is to ignore it and to ignore would be a fatal mistake. What you don't know, or won't see, can and will kill you.

P.S.: Please click on the link in the header for the thread as Mr. Webre, like all Examiner writers, gets paid based on the clicks to his article. It is his fair exchange for writing and researching the article.

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#62. To: Original_Intent, PSUSA, Lady X, christine (#59)

The satanists are usually in a lot of pain. They fall for the illusion that sharing their pain will alleviate it. This of course creates a vicious circle. Ignoring the satanist will do both oneself and the abuser/victim a favor.


No Planes. Think about it. ................. Guaranteed Penetration (no it's not porn)

wudidiz  posted on  2011-01-09   19:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: buckeroo (#56)

If Duff_Man had any REAL educational background he would know that mere "looks" is not a precursor or factual background about psychological disorders.

I don't even know that it takes a real educational background.

It seems that he thinks it, and if he thinks it then it must be true because he thought of it, and, it goes along with what he thinks he's trying to prove.

And it doesn't matter how outlandish the thought was.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-09   19:19:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Original_Intent (#59)

When you distort and misrepresent someone's position, and bring up points which are not even relevant to the current thread

Nope.

I quoted your own words. It's all there for anyone to see.

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Jesus Never Existed

PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-09   19:21:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Lady X (#61)

I was having a conversation with OI until you barged in.

I'm not stopping you, or anyone else, from having a conversation with anyone.


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Jesus Never Existed

PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-09   19:22:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Original_Intent (#52) (Edited)

It occurs to me that also this guy might have been a broken product who had been conditioned but because their conditioning processes are not uniformly reliable it made him stand out.

I suspect this was another staged Black Op (like the Anthrax scare after 9/11 probably was to sway any Constitution-leaning Republicans to vote for the Patriot Act and such). Likely, the intent is to derail the Tea Party/Republican agenda to repeal "Obamacare", etc., to suppress political scrutiny, criminalize dissent, and to ramp up more of the Leftist/Commie makeover of America into their preferred image of no Constitutional Rights.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2011-01-09   19:25:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: GreyLmist (#66)

I suspect this was another staged Black Op (like the Anthrax scare after 9/11

This is a Black Op like the Washington snipers..

And like the snipers, there is more than one shooter involved in this..

To make an unfortunate comparison, this entire operation is a trifecta.

Lady X  posted on  2011-01-09   19:32:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: PSUSA (#63)

It seems that he thinks it, and if he thinks it then it must be true because he thought of it, and, it goes along with what he thinks he's trying to prove.

Well stated. As you know, it is very rare for a thread to pass without Duff_Man's typical "logic" invocation (as though reality is pre-conditioned with logic in many cases, that is to say, denying irrationality) .... so, he pretends he is a well-read philosopher about "logic" with such capable convictions as, René Descartes with I think therefore I am.

But he misses the marck by a long shot because he has created an assumption as the pivotal characteristic supporting his own mental capability. If he were truly correct about his own capability, he would call it spasmodic reaction as when a snail is blinded by light.

'Tis ashame for his posts.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2011-01-09   19:34:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Clue that this is a staged Black Op: A public political rally called "Congress on your Corner" was organized with an appearance by the Congresswoman. The judge goes there too. The suspect is wrestled to the ground after the supposed shooting until police arrive -- repeat: until police arrive. Doubtful that there would be no arrangement for armed guards at such an event. Not saying that people might not have been actually killed but no armed police or security guards on duty there makes no sense.

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GreyLmist  posted on  2011-01-09   19:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: GreyLmist (#69)

Doubtful that there would be no arrangement for armed guards at such an event. Not saying that people might not have been actually killed but no armed police or security guards on duty there makes no sense.

You are incorrect. Giffords is well-known to dispel any requirements for body guards and police protection for any reason.

So, your attempt to create some conspiracy is silly at best.

The judge goes there too.

His purpose was shopping at the Safeway market and happened to talk to Giffords as they were old friends.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2011-01-09   19:48:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: buckeroo (#70)

His purpose was shopping at the Safeway market and happened to talk to Giffords as they were old friends.

You're right.

I understand his shopping list included; prunes, Depends, a large bag of Snickers, a pint of chocolate milk, and some animal crackers.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2011-01-09   19:53:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Jethro Tull (#71)

It was a murder based upon an insane man. He didn't care about anyone he shot.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2011-01-09   20:02:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: wudidiz, PSUSA, Lady X, christine (#62)

The satanists are usually in a lot of pain.

Quite true, and you can eliminate the "usually" and make that always. The true path of honor, and respect for others is also the happiest path. You never have to justify doing good. The dark path leads only to misery and he who hates is hostage to their hate and it colors darkly all aspects of their existence. There is no joy of living in hate only death.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-09   20:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: farmfriend (#60)

Hee, hee. Thank you. :-)

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-09   20:14:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: GreyLmist (#69)

Clue that this is a staged Black Op: A public political rally called "Congress on your Corner" was organized with an appearance by the Congresswoman. The judge goes there too. The suspect is wrestled to the ground after the supposed shooting until police arrive -- repeat: until police arrive. Doubtful that there would be no arrangement for armed guards at such an event. Not saying that people might not have been actually killed but no armed police or security guards on duty there makes no sense.

Interesting point. Once again the "Silver Blaze" anomaly rears its head.

"But Holmes the Dog did not bark in the night."

"Exactly Watson that is what is curious."

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-09   20:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: GreyLmist (#69)

When my senator goes out in public, the guy has a security detail. When our congress people go out in public, and make appearances, they have a security detail. ALWAYS, they have a security detail.

The first sign that something stinks, is that there was NO security detail at all. Safeway, if they were sponsoring the event would have had to make arrangements for security. If it were this simple to wack a senator, then every assassin would simply have to wait for a little public get together to do what they wanted.

If only every lone nut assassin with a misspelled name, and no parents were to be so lucky. Notice how they're not interviewing the parents? Notice how they're keeping a lid on everything? Notice how all of this seems to move exactly like every other little mishap, with nobody blamed but those who have any contrary views?

This is exactly how it's been done for the last 100 years.

What should be happening, is the parents should have been brought out the same day to apologize for their failure in parenting. Maybe if they were to tell the world what really happened with their kid, it might make sense.

The only thing this is to me, is another government op, by another programmed patsy, who went to MEPS for a long weekend of fun and re-programming.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist. I went to Chernobyl, and all I got was this glow in the dark T-shirt. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-01-09   20:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Lady X (#6)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-09   20:25:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: GreyLmist (#10)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-01-09   20:27:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#76)

When my senator goes out in public, the guy has a security detail. When our congress people go out in public, and make appearances, they have a security detail. ALWAYS, they have a security detail.

The first sign that something stinks, is that there was NO security detail at all. Safeway, if they were sponsoring the event would have had to make arrangements for security. If it were this simple to wack a senator, then every assassin would simply have to wait for a little public get together to do what they wanted.

If only every lone nut assassin with a misspelled name, and no parents were to be so lucky. Notice how they're not interviewing the parents? Notice how they're keeping a lid on everything? Notice how all of this seems to move exactly like every other little mishap, with nobody blamed but those who have any contrary views?

This is exactly how it's been done for the last 100 years.

What should be happening, is the parents should have been brought out the same day to apologize for their failure in parenting. Maybe if they were to tell the world what really happened with their kid, it might make sense.

The only thing this is to me, is another government op, by another programmed patsy, who went to MEPS for a long weekend of fun and re-programming.

I have seen some dumb, fucking idiotic posts in my time.... but yours rises to one of the most memorable as it it lacks facts, substance and any common sense besides looking into the situation.

I mean, that is one dumb fucking post, pal.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2011-01-09   20:38:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: buckeroo (#79)

No, it is not.

Please start your own thread.

Thank you in advance..

Lady X  posted on  2011-01-09   20:43:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: Lady X, buckeroo, Buckmonster Fullofit, Nostradumbass (#80)

We really should post the Official Buckmonster Fullofit Logo after all of buckie's posts:

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-09   20:47:17 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Original_Intent (#81)

FTL: Shot congresswoman was violent too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFwcUjjyJCQ

Free Talk Live's politically incorrect discussion of the Arizona shootings, now illustrated. What crackdowns on innocents will occur as part of the backlash against this shooter? And was the gunman's congressional target aggressively violent in her own, "acceptable" way?

RidleyReport  posted on  2011-01-09   20:52:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: Lady X, ALL4um folks (#80)

No, it is not.

You are talking about Tommie's dumb, fucking post correct? OK, where are the stated facts to form his reasonable or otherwise rational opinion? He supposes characteristics without factual support and carries conclusions to some silly end that goes nowhere.

Here, beyond challenging YOU, I challenge this whole thread and 4um about this conspiracy claptrap. There is not enough detail to draw a thorough conclusion until more is known. Duff_Man is notorious for creating conspiracies out of thin aire.

Increasingly, the rest of 4um is joining Duff_Man's conspiratorial perspective about everything from insanity being a programmed US government psyop exercise to the world is up-side-down; which is far from healthy.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2011-01-09   20:55:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: buckeroo (#70)

Giffords is well-known to dispel any requirements for body guards and police protection for any reason.

Why don't you go ahead and prove that pantload for us 4umers?

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
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Esso  posted on  2011-01-09   21:00:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Original_Intent (#1)

Interesting article.

On the birds

New Madrid EarthQuake Imminent? 2011 HAARP Kills Birds? Proof Fema Drills shown by PatrioticSpace!

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-01-09   21:02:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: PSUSA (#27)

bush_is_a_moonie  posted on  2011-01-09   21:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: RidleyReport (#82)

Thanks for the link. I think we can expect an attempt to again try, ghoulishly, to use the actions of this disturbed young man to go after the Second Amendment. Our would-be masters and mistresses are very anxious over the existence of an armed and free populace.

Coincident with this is the attempt by Oh'bummer and the other totalitarians in Washington District of Corruption to enforce their Internet User I.D. as a step toward attacking freedom of speech, which also bothers them. Criminals do not like to have light shone on them. It makes them very nervous. They prefer the shadows.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-09   21:30:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Itistoolate (#85)

It would not surprise me if they getting ready to trigger the fault. I think they wanted to do it with the BP Oilpocalypse but too many people caught on to what setting off a nuke to ostensibly shut down the well would do to the New Madrid fault to which the area is geologically connected.

So, perhaps setting up to try and covertly set it off. The New Madrid fault is about due naturally for a slip and realignment, but if they wanted to trigger it at a politically opportune moment it would not surprise me.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-09   21:48:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: GreyLmist (#24)

"...Does this have anything to do with 2012/""

Yes. Their Mayan Calendar predictions for 2012.

purplerose  posted on  2011-01-09   21:51:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: buckeroo, Lady X, all (#83)

No, it is not.

You are talking about Tommie's dumb, fucking post correct? OK, where are the stated facts to form his reasonable or otherwise rational opinion? He supposes characteristics without factual support and carries conclusions to some silly end that goes nowhere.

Here, beyond challenging YOU, I challenge this whole thread and 4um about this conspiracy claptrap. There is not enough detail to draw a thorough conclusion until more is known. Duff_Man is notorious for creating conspiracies out of thin aire.

Increasingly, the rest of 4um is joining Duff_Man's conspiratorial perspective about everything from insanity being a programmed US government psyop exercise to the world is up-side-down; which is far from healthy.

Gosh buck do you get these attacks often? That is where you are convinced that everyone but you is insane? I think you should go hide somewhere in a fetal position so that the spiders don't get you, or the martians either.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-09   21:53:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Esso (#84)

Buck is worried that it'll all suddenly turn into a Hate Israeli Treachery thread.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist. I went to Chernobyl, and all I got was this glow in the dark T-shirt. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-01-09   21:56:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Lady X (#44)

I'm thinking the same thing about that too. I remember reports stating there was another shooter.

purplerose  posted on  2011-01-09   21:58:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: Original_Intent (#90)

I guess we know who one of the paid disruptors is.

It is better to be hated for what you are, than loved for what you are not. - Tommy The Mad Artist. I went to Chernobyl, and all I got was this glow in the dark T-shirt. - Tommy The Mad Artist.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2011-01-09   21:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#93)

I guess we know who one of the paid disruptors is.

Either that or is just unstable.

I would not find that to be the least surprising were it shown to be the case.

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-09   22:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: Original_Intent (#73)

Quite true, and you can eliminate the "usually" and make that always. The true path of honor, and respect for others is also the happiest path. You never have to justify doing good. The dark path leads only to misery and he who hates is hostage to their hate and it colors darkly all aspects of their existence. There is no joy of living in hate only death.

More drivel from Duff Man.

You write of honor, but you know nothing of it. It is not honorable for you to try and convince others of lies. You are no different than Alex Jones. You take various unrelated topics, some true and most not, and try to string them together into a massive conspiracy, where no such conspiracy exists.

I think you do it for the attention. You care so much about impressing others that you end up writing the most idiotic things.

So you write of honor, but you have none.

When it comes to respect, I respect those that deserve respect. You're not one of them. So, here I am, and here I will be, and it doesn't matter who likes it or not. I stay within the rules here.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-10   5:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#9)

I decided he was a mind-controlled patsy less than a minute into his video yesterday.

Without any doubt. He was probably prescribed the anticonvulsant Depakote, and other psychiatric drugs for his outbursts in college class. A couple of Depakote's many negative side effects include sleepwalking and complete short term memory loss, perfect for any brainwashing and control operation.

sizzlerguy  posted on  2011-01-10   18:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: buckeroo, All (#70)

Giffords is well-known to dispel any requirements for body guards and police protection for any reason.

A lot of us here at 4um would sure like to see you prove that. Three to five links should be sufficient.

Pre-shooting links only, please.

2nd request.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-01-10   18:58:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: buckeroo, All (#97)

Gee whiz, Buck, I'm starting to get the impression that you don't like me. Every time I ask you a simple question you disappear.

All I'm asking for is some links supporting your wildly unsubstantiated claims about about the cowardly and decidedly anti-American congressjewess refusing any and all security measures.

And maybe while you're at it, you can answer my question from a month or so ago about if your newfound love of anything and everything government is part of a plea agreement or a condition of probation for some transgression against the government, perhaps tax evasion?

I'll be awaiting your reply with the greatest of anticipation.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2011-01-10   21:28:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Esso (#98)

Gee whiz, Buck, I'm starting to get the impression that you don't like me. Every time I ask you a simple question you disappear.

I am trying out this new bottle of majaeckic potion I just whipped upped in the lab. So, it appears as though my best friends and kind, considerate Internet pals are not receiving my attention.... but don't despair, I am right here.

All I'm asking for is some links supporting your wildly unsubstantiated claims about about the cowardly and decidedly anti-American congressjewess refusing any and all security measures.

Well, if you would phrase your question in the limelight of camaraderie and good will you might ... just might receive exactly what you are looking for.

And maybe while you're at it, you can answer my question from a month or so ago about if your newfound love of anything and everything government is part of a plea agreement or a condition of probation for some transgression against the government, perhaps tax evasion?

Please provide a link, please. I have to vanish again.

I'll be awaiting your reply with the greatest of anticipation.

This is excellent.

"In a free society we're supposed to know the truth," ... "In a society where truth becomes treason, then we're in big trouble. And now, people who are revealing the truth are getting into trouble for it" -- Ron Paul, circa 2010-12-02

buckeroo  posted on  2011-01-10   21:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: ALL (#99) (Edited)

HUNNERT

"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-01-10   21:50:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Original_Intent (#0)

Jared Loughner was a leftist jewish guy that didn't appreciate the anti- immigration politics of a powerful jewish person, Gabrielle Giffords.

That's why he shot her and others in her support team.

Leftist political power requires a steady immigration flow of Diversity (victim cult) people into the United States, and Giffords was threatening to thwart that flow as a Arizona congresswoman.

Loughner was particularly incensed at Giffords because she claims to be jewish, and Diversity politics is the political power base of judaism in the US and Israel. Loughner considered Giffords a phony jewish person that was hurting jewish-friendly national policy.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gab rielle_Giffords

Googolplex  posted on  2011-01-16   11:40:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Turtle (#5)

I agree with you. A stalker is just a stalker!

Stick To Disinformation  posted on  2011-06-01   21:59:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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