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Title: If Atheists Ruled the World
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Published: Jan 12, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-01-12 09:23:20 by PSUSA
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Comments: 85

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#3. To: PSUSA (#0)

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-12   10:05:43 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ghostdogtxn (#3)

I disagree. I think it's very telling, and typical. One does not need to cherry-pick xtian posts to find idiocy. And the idiocy on this video is typical of xtians.

Perhaps you know why you haven't dissolved yet from all of that DNA in your body? It's an ACID! And acids dissolve flesh! It has to be true because a xtian said it was so!

Unless, of course, you consider yourself to be one of those "true christians". Never mind the fact that the other idiots consider themselves to be "true christians" also. You might think you're smarter than they are, but they think that they are pretty smart too.

Hell, I thought I was a "true christian" too.

Therefore I was also an idiot. Although some will question the "was" part of it. Not that that bothers me.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-12   10:21:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-12   14:01:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: ghostdogtxn (#20)

I don't. I go to a fairly conservative christian church, and people who say what these actors said would be laughed at there, just like they are laughed at everywhere else except among their nutty brethren.

That could very easily be 100% true. There are varying degrees of programmed stupidity/insanity involved here. Notice that I am not saying anything that I haven't already said about myself, since I was in the middle of that crap too.

But I bet that they themselves don't like being laughed at when they try and convince others, the "heathens", that their god of love demands to be loved, obeyed to the point of murdering entire populations, etc, or else they will get tortured for eternity.

Either that, or maybe they are the kinds of people, like Calvinists, that believe these people are born to burn, and don't trouble themselves with trying to spread the so-called "good news".

Or maybe they were like me and saw the errors regarding the translating of the words into "hell", "eternal", etc, and rightfully know that these things aren't scriptural. But there is plenty of other garbage out there that has been translated properly. Like my sigline, for example. You don't really think I had to search long and hard to come up with that, do you?

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-12   15:17:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-12   16:42:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: ghostdogtxn (#33)

I would just note that nobody is so rabidly anti-alcohol as an ex-drunk. Most of us can consume it safely and responsibly, but try telling that to an AA member.

That is quite possibly a legitimate point. It's one that I have thought about. Would I be this way if I had never been exposed to xtianity? Maybe not. But I can't say for sure. I might have been even more vocal, seeing the damage it has done to this planet and the people on it, while I was on the outside and looking in.

I do have more empathy with those still in it though. I would not have that empathy if I had never been inside it for all that time.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-12   17:10:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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ghostdogtxn  posted on  2011-01-12   17:21:32 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: ghostdogtxn (#42)

Would the printing press have been invented if the inventors hadn't wanted to make bibles? Would literacy have grown so rapidly in the west if not for the reformationists wanting bibles in homes?

You're forgetting that for a long time it was illegal, and punishable by death, to have possession of a bible.

And masses were said in latin, a language that only the priests understood.

But who's to know when the printing press would have been invented? I personally think a less destructive book would have been a better choice than the bible. But TPTB at the time saw the usefulness of printing it, so they did.

Any study of English literature will show you massive influence from religion, and even the renaissance has a lot of basis in theological thought. Sure, faith can be a reason or provide a justification for oppression, but do you think the Spanish would have been any less ruthless in conquering S. America if they had been atheists or muslims?

Why did they go to S. America? To spread xtianity. Who knows how many they murdered in the process. They destroyed everything, for all intents and purposes; people, books, etc. So much for the "good news".

Muslims probably would have done the same thing, to spread islam.

Atheists would have to have chosen another excuse, since they don't care about the kike god, unlike muslims, kikes and xtians.

If you read Theucydides History of the Peloponnesian war (a completely pre-Christian text) you can see that the Greek City States and the Persians were fully capable of torture, vile acts of murder and horrifying warfare without any exposure to the kike God. They nakedly took over cities, killed all of the men and boys and sold the women into slavery as a matter of national policy, with no real religious underpinnings at all.

If you study any region for which histories exist, mankind's general tendency has been toward pillage, plunder, conquest and slavery. I don't think Christianity really has much to do with it (although certainly the Jewish histories are unexceptionally brutal, too).

No argument there. Some use religion, others pull out something else from their toolbox to invade. It might be race, or aspects of another culture that they don't like, or they were allied with the wrong people, or who knows what else.

IMO people don't want war, they are pushed into war by their leaders.

Basically, you get any group of men together and their first thought seems to be how to steal shit so they don't have to work.

I disagree. I dont think that way and I'm pretty sure that you don't either. We know that cooperation is more beneficial to all than theft and war. Even though there are "certain groups" that don't work that way. But I question whether they are even truly human or not, because they sure don't act like humans.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-12   18:22:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: PSUSA, ghostdogtxn (#54)

Why did they go to S. America?

Gold. Gold was and is their religion, not Christianity. Christianity was the perfect religion to gull the Incas and the Aztecs as they both shared mythologies that could be exploited by the Spanish/Portuguese "priests".

bluegrass  posted on  2011-01-12   18:42:03 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#58. To: bluegrass (#57) (Edited)

Gold. Gold was and is their religion, not Christianity.

I disagree. Yes, they wanted, and stole, the gold. But they also went there to spread xtianity. I believe both reasons are right.

Otherwise, destroying their literature has nothing to do with getting their gold.

They believed in converting others by force. They did it in Europe, and they did it everywhere they went.

Not that they shouldn't have encouraged human sacrifice to stop. But one group of cutthroats should not tell another group of cutthroats how to act nice. It lacks a certain credibility.

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PSUSA  posted on  2011-01-12 18:54:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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