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Title: PATRIOT ACT EXTENSION FAILS
Source: Campaign for Liberty
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Published: Feb 8, 2011
Author: C4L
Post Date: 2011-02-08 20:32:58 by abraxas
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Views: 2275
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PATRIOT ACT EXTENSION FAILS
Thanks to your dedicated efforts, the motion to suspend the rules and pass the extension of three PATRIOT Act provisions failed tonight in the House of Representatives! Since they were attempting to pass it on the suspension calendar, the vote required two thirds (290 members) of the House to agree to it.
The vote came down to the wire, and you could hear the arms breaking on Capitol Hill out here in Springfield, VA.
By a vote of 277-148, the House failed to pass the extension - click here for the roll call vote to see how your representative voted!
Thanks again for all you've done, but remember, we can't let up pressure now. This won't be the last we've heard of the PATRIOT Act renewal in the House.
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#1. To: All (#0)
Here is the House Clerk's diary entry denying extension of unPATRIOT Act provisions: clerk.house.gov/floorsumm...y=20110208&today=20110208
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-08 20:34:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: abraxas, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#0)
'House out of order' after first blockage of Patriot Act in ten years
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Artisan posted on 2011-02-08 20:36:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Artisan (#2) (Edited)

...87 new Republican Congressmen and 13 new Republican Senators were sworn into office last month. Many of them claim to hold 'Tea Party' limited government type values. Yet out of the 87 new Republicans in the House, we had a gain of only 16 votes against the Patriot Act compared with last year.

So much for the TEA Party being an agent of change within the GOP....but I'm glad the extension failed nonetheless.
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"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
X-15 posted on 2011-02-08 20:44:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: abraxas (#0)
PATRIOT ACT EXTENSION FAILS

Great news!
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Flintlock posted on 2011-02-08 20:49:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: Artisan (#2)
Thank you Artisan. That one is a more comprehensive article......I love Kucinich's comments. lol
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-08 20:49:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: Flintlock (#4)
Great news!

It's nice to have some good news on a vote for a change. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-08 20:50:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: abraxas (#0)
[being facetious]
*Gasp*
Ab, how can you oppose the PATRIOT Act?
You want to be a PATRIOT dont you?
[/being facetious]
;)

Armadillo posted on 2011-02-08 20:51:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: X-15 (#3)
..87 new Republican Congressmen and 13 new Republican Senators were sworn into office last month. Many of them claim to hold 'Tea Party' limited government type values. Yet out of the 87 new Republicans in the House, we had a gain of only 16 votes against the Patriot Act compared with last year.

So much for the TEA Party being an agent of change within the GOP...

Not all 87 were Teaparty, there's still plenty of RINOs who need purging and will be purged if we stand together.

but I'm glad the extension failed nonetheless.

Roger that.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Flintlock posted on 2011-02-08 20:52:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Armadillo (#7)
You want to be a PATRIOT don't you?

lol......I'm among the small band of radicals prepping for an American Revolution II.
Sheesh, it has only taken the dupes in DC a DECADE to wake up to a nay on the insidious Patriot Act. Better late than never, I say. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-08 20:57:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: abraxas (#0)
- The FBI authorized to continue using roving wiretaps on surveillance targets - GONE.
- Government access to "any tangible items," such as library records, in the course of surveillance - GONE.
- The "lone wolf" provision of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorist Prevention Act that allows surveillance on targets not connected with an identified terrorist group - GONE.
It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
randge posted on 2011-02-08 21:01:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: abraxas (#0)
The Patriot Act is the worst threat to the United States Constitution since Joseph Stalin.
U.S. Constitution - Article IV, Section 4: NO BORDERS + NO LAWS = NO COUNTRY
HAPPY2BME-4UM posted on 2011-02-08 21:03:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: randge (#10)
- The "lone wolf" provision of the Intelligence Reform and Terrorist Prevention Act that allows surveillance on targets not connected with an identified terrorist group - GONE.

That is the most dangerous segment of American society for the government.
They have abject fear of Lone Wolves.

Cynicom posted on 2011-02-08 21:04:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: HAPPY2BME-4UM (#11)
The Patriot Act is the worst threat to the United States Constitution since Joseph Stalin.

Close second but not true Hap...
Stalins fist was tied to their law that made anti semitism a felony, punishable by hanging.
That is what this government will one day try to ram down our throats. It is coming closer every day.

Cynicom posted on 2011-02-08 21:07:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Cynicom, 4 (#12)
They have abject fear of Lone Wolves.

LWs are the key.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is missing its idiot.
Lod posted on 2011-02-08 21:09:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: X-15 (#3)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-02-08 21:10:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: abraxas, *California list* (#1)
I will be sending McClintock a thank you for voting no and hit Lungren on his yes vote. He is one of those guys that Republicans think is great but votes NWO every time. He tried to give us Romney care as well.
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend posted on 2011-02-08 21:12:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Cynicom, All (#12)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-02-08 21:13:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: abraxas (#0)
Hold on to your hat.
We're going to have to raise a row the next couple of weeks.

PATRIOT Act Extension Fails, For Now February 8, 2011 - by Donny Shaw
House Republicans tried this evening to pass a bill extending three of the most controversial provisions of the USA PATRIOT Act by using an expedited procedure that allowed for just 40 minute of debate and no amendments. But the rules of the procedure also required that 2/3rds of the House vote in favor for the extension to pass. So, even though a strong majority of the House voted in favor, they were 13 votes short and the attempt failed. The bill will, however, be brought back to the floor for another vote under standard rules, probably in the next few days, and since only a simple majority will be needed it is expected to pass then.
Shulamit Shvartsman describes the three provisions that would be extended under the bill (without modification):
* Business Records provision – grants warrants for “business records” without having to notify the suspect. Business records include any record ranging from banking to library to medical. The government must only say that the records are relevant to a terrorism investigation. From 2004 to 2007, the business records provision was used 220 times. It was most often requested in combination with requests for phone records. * Lone Wolf provision – allows warrants for electronic monitoring of someone even without showing the person is an agent of a foreign power or a suspected terrorist. While it hasn’t been used yet, the administration says it should still be available for future investigations. * Roving Wiretaps provision – designed to allow investigators to quickly monitor the communications of suspects who change their cell phone without investigators having to go back to court for a new court authorization. That provision has been used an average of 22 times a year.
The bill will no go back to the rules committee, get a new rule, and be brought up under regular order sometime soon. That probably means we’ll get a little more debate time (not that anyone takes floor debate seriously) and, if Republicans choose to live up to their campaign pledge to use more open rules, an opportunity for members who oppose the provisions in their current form to seek reforms via amendments.
But make no mistake — today’s slip up is not going to stop this bill from becoming law in the next few weeks. Senate Democrats are already preparing to fast-track companion legislation (S. 149) by using a procedure that will allow them to skip the committee process and bring the bill straight to the floor. The Obama Administration “strongly supports” the extension and is even pushing for it to be longer, so there’s no possibility of a veto.
74.86.203.132-static.reve...t-Extension-Fails-For-Now

It is a violation of Natural Law to use this document in a manner inconsistent with its labeling.
randge posted on 2011-02-08 21:14:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: Flintlock, X-15 (#8)
Not all 87 were Teaparty, there's still plenty of RINOs who need purging and will be purged if we stand together.

Many Tea Party people are RINOs. I would say a good half if not more.
Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend posted on 2011-02-08 21:14:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: Eric Stratton (#15)
You didn't honestly have your hopes up there did you?

Never, I knew that the neocons would reach most of them before it was all said and done.
__________________________________________________________
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
X-15 posted on 2011-02-08 21:17:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: randge, farmfriend (#10)
can you tell me when these 3 provisions actually expire? do you know? thanks
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Artisan posted on 2011-02-08 21:18:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: abraxas (#0)
Great. Now we are all going to be killed by bin Laden's Al-Qaeda before seeing our grandchildren pay down on the national debt. I really hate these little snot nosed bastards ...
In effect, it’s (The Holacaust Inc.) become like a grotesque doll wielded by witch doctors, used to keep individuals from asking too many questions, from thinking for themselves and stepping out of line.
PatrickHenry posted on 2011-02-08 21:20:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: X-15 (#20)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters." - Ben Franklin
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-02-08 21:24:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Artisan, randge, (#21)
Your wish is my command!

a) USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005- Section 102(b)(1) of the USA PATRIOT Improvement and Reauthorization Act of 2005 (Public Law 109-177; 50 U.S.C. 1805 note, 50 U.S.C. 1861 note, and 50 U.S.C. 1862 note) is amended by striking `February 28, 2011' and inserting `December 8, 2011'.

Tough women come from New York, sweet women from Texas, prissy women from Southern California, but we NORTHERN CALIFORNIA WOMEN have fire & ice in our blood. We can ride 4-wheelers, be a princess, throw a left hook, pack heat, hunt with the men, bake a cake, love with passion, and if we have an opinion, you know you're going to hear it!!

farmfriend posted on 2011-02-08 21:24:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: randge (#18)
We're going to have to raise a row the next couple of weeks.

We put a lot of pressure on our congress critter and he voted nay on it, but we obviously need more pressure on the yea group. I'm happy to pressure other peoples congress critters. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-08 21:29:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: Artisan (#21)
End of the month........
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
abraxas posted on 2011-02-08 21:30:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: X-15 (#3)
However it died, and whoever killed it, I could care less.
Keep 'em coming.

Jethro Tull posted on 2011-02-08 21:48:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: farmfriend (#24)
oh, that was the text in the bill? thanks.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Artisan posted on 2011-02-08 21:52:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: Jethro Tull, farmfriend (#27)
these rats will bring it up for another vote before feb 28. you know it.
"if I have all faith so as to move mountains, but do not have love, I am nothing." 1 Cor 12:31—13:13
"I don't know where Bin Laden is. I truly am not that concerned about him"
George W, Bush, 3/13/02 http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2002/03/20020313-8.html
Artisan posted on 2011-02-08 21:53:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: Artisan, 4 (#29)
www.washingtonpost.com/wp...2/08/AR2011020806345.html
Artisan, I think we need to allow at least one day to celebrate a small, but important victory.

Patriot Act extension fails in the House by seven votes
House rejects Patriot Act extension
More than two-dozen House Republicans bucked their party to oppose the measure that would extend three key provisions in the counterterrorism law.
By Paul Kane and Felicia Sonmez Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, February 8, 2011; 9:21 PM
House Republicans suffered an embarrassing setback Tuesday when they fell seven votes short of extending provisions of the Patriot Act, a vote that served as the first small uprising of the party's tea-party bloc.

Jethro Tull posted on 2011-02-08 22:03:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
when they fell seven votes short of extending provisions of the Patriot Act, a vote that served as the first small uprising of the party's tea-party bloc.

that's the first victory for the TeaParty Rs.

christine posted on 2011-02-08 22:05:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: christine (#31)
Thank god they were elected, pure and simple.

Jethro Tull posted on 2011-02-08 22:07:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#32)
Thank god they were elected, pure and simple.

Well, we shall see this year if there is any change in direction for this government.
We are still within the confines of the "one party system".

Cynicom posted on 2011-02-08 22:11:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: Jethro Tull, christine (#32)
(TeaParty) Thank god they were elected, pure and simple.

Yet some here continue to lie about and slander them. Why are they allowed to practice their treason here? Why are they allowed to use 4um as a sounding board for their disinformation?
Why are they allowed to try to block the sunlight of freedom?
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Flintlock posted on 2011-02-08 22:16:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: Flintlock (#34)
Yet some here continue to lie about and slander them. Why are they allowed to practice their treason here? Why are they allowed to use 4um as a sounding board for their disinformation?

A difference of opinion is lying, is treason?
When that day arrives, there will be NO 4um.

Cynicom posted on 2011-02-08 22:21:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: Cynicom (#35)
Click Here
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Flintlock posted on 2011-02-08 22:25:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: Cynicom (#33)
Well, we shall see this year if there is any change in direction for this government.

There just was by seven votes. Now it has to hold until the 28th. I will grant anything can happen bet. now and then, but there is no way this can be construed as anything except good news.

Jethro Tull posted on 2011-02-08 22:31:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: Flintlock (#36)
Rather hear your reasoning.

Cynicom posted on 2011-02-08 22:31:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: Jethro Tull (#37)
There just was by seven votes. Now it has to hold until the 28th. I will grant anything can happen bet. now and then, but there is no way this can be construed as anything except good news.

Jethro...
On such crucial voting, the votes are decided on and tallied in the backroom.. BEFORE THE VOTE. EVERY TIME.
There is no way this heinous act will be derailed.

Cynicom posted on 2011-02-08 22:35:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: Cynicom (#39)
www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/02/08/house.patriot.act/

I can't see into the future, but I can at least take in a small amount of good news, and this is good news.
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Many of the 26 Republicans who voted against the bill Tuesday were new House members.

Jethro Tull posted on 2011-02-08 22:40:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply

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