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Title: PATRIOT ACT EXTENSION FAILS
Source: Campaign for Liberty
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Published: Feb 8, 2011
Author: C4L
Post Date: 2011-02-08 20:32:58 by abraxas
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PATRIOT ACT EXTENSION FAILS
Thanks to your dedicated efforts, the motion to suspend the rules and pass the extension of three PATRIOT Act provisions failed tonight in the House of Representatives! Since they were attempting to pass it on the suspension calendar, the vote required two thirds (290 members) of the House to agree to it.
The vote came down to the wire, and you could hear the arms breaking on Capitol Hill out here in Springfield, VA.
By a vote of 277-148, the House failed to pass the extension - click here for the roll call vote to see how your representative voted!
Thanks again for all you've done, but remember, we can't let up pressure now. This won't be the last we've heard of the PATRIOT Act renewal in the House.
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#2. To: abraxas, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch* (#0)
'House out of order' after first blockage of Patriot Act in ten years

Artisan posted on 2011-02-08 20:36:38 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Artisan (#2) (Edited)

...87 new Republican Congressmen and 13 new Republican Senators were sworn into office last month. Many of them claim to hold 'Tea Party' limited government type values. Yet out of the 87 new Republicans in the House, we had a gain of only 16 votes against the Patriot Act compared with last year.

So much for the TEA Party being an agent of change within the GOP....but I'm glad the extension failed nonetheless.

X-15 posted on 2011-02-08 20:44:42 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#27. To: X-15 (#3)
However it died, and whoever killed it, I could care less.
Keep 'em coming.

Jethro Tull posted on 2011-02-08 21:48:24 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#29. To: Jethro Tull, farmfriend (#27)
these rats will bring it up for another vote before feb 28. you know it.

Artisan posted on 2011-02-08 21:53:04 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#30. To: Artisan, 4 (#29)
www.washingtonpost.com/wp...2/08/AR2011020806345.html
Artisan, I think we need to allow at least one day to celebrate a small, but important victory.

Patriot Act extension fails in the House by seven votes
House rejects Patriot Act extension
More than two-dozen House Republicans bucked their party to oppose the measure that would extend three key provisions in the counterterrorism law.
By Paul Kane and Felicia Sonmez Washington Post Staff Writers Tuesday, February 8, 2011; 9:21 PM
House Republicans suffered an embarrassing setback Tuesday when they fell seven votes short of extending provisions of the Patriot Act, a vote that served as the first small uprising of the party's tea-party bloc.

Jethro Tull posted on 2011-02-08 22:03:16 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#42. To: Jethro Tull (#30)
you got it. i am doing a comparison between who voted for what. now there were 87 new gop congressman sworn in last month. Last year, only 10 gop congressmen voted no on the patriot act. this year, it was 26, a gain of 16.

16 out of 87 is small %, but it did the trick. i will list all of them as well as those who claimed tea party status yet voted yes on it.thes thigns are important to expose the rats.
mcclintock, a previous fave candidate of mine here in ca, is one who i criticized for voting yes on it last year. he voted no this time round, for some reason.

Artisan posted on 2011-02-08 23:19:51 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#49. To: Artisan (#42)
Last year, only 10 gop congressmen voted no on the patriot act. this year, it was 26, a gain of 16.

More than doubled -- about 62% more. Applause!
Re: this problematic flashback from your 'House out of order' link at Post #2:

Ten Republicans who voted no to renew Patriot Act in 2010
Martin Hill
May 9th, 2010 5:10 am PT
On February 25th, Congress voted to renew three sections of the Patriot Act which were set to expire. They did so in a secretive way, lumping the 'Patriot Act' renewal into a group of other bills that were set to expire. In effect, they bundled the bills into one vote as to avoid public debate or publicity on the matter. So at 7:25 PM on a Thursday night, it was extended for another year, in bill H R 3961 titled Medicare Physician Payment Reform Act.

That skullduggery of lumping bills together should be abolished. So should their redundant maneuvers at taxpayer's expense to force legislation that's been voted down back onto the floor before the ink has even dried. The States should nullify any such reprehensible, steamrolled legislation -- as well as any bills not read and debated before voting, like the oxymoronic "PATRIOT" Act of 2001 -- and bill the DC offenders for the time.

GreyLmist posted on 2011-02-09 4:30:04 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#52. To: GreyLmist, randge, flintlock, rotara, eric stratton, original_intent, itistoolate, farmfriend, jethro tull, christine, wudidiz, twentytwelve, formerlurker, x-15, paddlefeet, freepatriot32, lod (#49)
Here are a few posts with details sorting through who did what.

26 Repubs who supported liberty & rejected the Patriot Act: Who are they?
http://www.examiner.com/la-county-libertarian-in-los-angeles/26-repubs- who-supported-liberty-voted-no-on-the-patriot-act-who-are-they
Excerpt: Now on to the eighteen people who voted No on the Patriot Act in 2011 who were not on the 'NO' LIST in 2010. Ten of them were already in office, and switched their votes to support liberty. Eight others took office for the first time this year. Out of the following eighteen people, only eight are serving their very first term in Congress. This means that out of 87 newly elected Republican Congressman, only eight of those voted NO on the Patriot Act. (13 new Republican Senators took office last mont for their first term).

44/52 'Tea Party Caucus' members voted to renew Patriot Act
http://www.examiner.com/la- county-libertarian-in-los-angeles/44-tea-party-caucus-members-voted-to-renew- patriot-act

'House out of order' after first blockage of Patriot Act in ten years
http://www.examiner.com/la- county-libertarian-in-los-angeles/gop-house-blocks-extension-of-patriot-act

Ron Paul launches LibertyPac.com in prep for possible 2012 bid
http://www.examiner.com/la-county-libertarian-in-los-angeles/ron-paul- launches-libertypac-com-prep-for-possible-2012-presidential-bid

Artisan posted on 2011-02-09 5:14:40 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#58. To: Artisan, 4 (#52)
Thanks for the terrific, impartial research Artisan. For now it's clear the "Tea Party" splits heavily on issues of war and this Act. Most can't be counted on to help extract us from foreign entanglements or draconian domestic law. OTOH, the eight more libertarian tea party members who supplied the necessary votes to (for now) put a stake in the heart of parts of this Patriot Act mess deserve our thanks. It's a victory, make no mistake about it. I never thought all the new folk would be like us on 4um. We are a very small group of America Firsters and to think change will come immediately after one voting cycle is unrealistic. To those who want to do something I suggest calling these Reps and thanking them for a start. From there, we need to continue to weed out the good from the bad come election time. We've been given a start from a core of people who voted with Ron Paul and against big government. If one looks at the people (Obama, establishment Rs) who wanted the extension, yesterday's rejection is a solid start. Thanks are in order to those who helped put these eight votes in the House. Their vote did matter.

Jethro Tull posted on 2011-02-09 8:22:24 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
#59. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
the eight more libertarian tea party members who supplied the necessary votes to (for now) put a stake in the heart of parts of this Patriot Act mess deserve our thanks. It's a victory, make no mistake about it. I never thought all the new folk would be like us on 4um. We are a very small group of America Firsters and to think change will come immediately after one voting cycle is unrealistic.

That's wisdom, a rare commodity around here.

Flintlock posted on 2011-02-09 9:09:42 ET Reply Untrace Trace Private Reply
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