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Title: Ray Bradbury on Getting Rid of School
Source: The Paris Review
URL Source: http://www.theparisreview.org/inter ... of-fiction-no-203-ray-bradbury
Published: Feb 19, 2011
Author: Ray Bradbury
Post Date: 2011-02-19 12:12:49 by Turtle
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Views: 299
Comments: 10

Our education system has gone to hell. It’s my idea from now on to stop spending money educating children who are sixteen years old. We should put all that money down into kindergarten. Young children have to be taught how to read and write. If children went into the first grade knowing how to read and write, we’d be set for the future, wouldn’t we? We must not let them go into the fourth and fifth grades not knowing how to read. So we must put out books with educational pictures, or use comics to teach children how to read. When I was five years old, my aunt gave me a copy of a book of wonderful fairy tales called Once Upon a Time, and the first fairy tale in the book is “Beauty and the Beast.” That one story taught me how to read and write because I looked at the picture of that beautiful beast, but I so desperately wanted to read about him too. By the time I was six years old, I had learned how to read and write.

We should forget about teaching children mathematics. They’re not going to use it ever in their lives. Give them simple arithmetic—one plus one is two, and how to divide, and how to subtract. Those are simple things that can be taught quickly. But no mathematics because they are never going to use it, never in their lives, unless they are going to be scientists, and then they can simply learn it later. My brother, for example, didn’t do well in school, but when he was in his twenties, he needed a job with the Bureau of Power and Light. He got a book about mathematics and electricity and he read it and educated himself and got the job. If you are bright, you will learn how to educate yourself with mathematics if you need it. But the average child never will. So it must be reading and writing. Those are the important things. And by the time children are six, they are completely educated and then they can educate themselves. The library will be the place where they grow up.


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I couldn't agree more with Bradbury.

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#2. To: Turtle (#0)

I couldn't agree more with Bradbury.

I take it you are mathematically challenged? Bradbury, for all his great writing, is now and always has been a flaming liberal.

Mathematics whether one uses it to make a living or not is valuable knowledge. Mathematics is the language of shape, form, and quantity.

Spherical Trigonometry may seem useless - until you need to understand mapping and orbital mechanics. If you really want to understand Geography you need to understand Trig.

Geometry allows us to define shape and form and put a measure upon it. It also teaches logic and sound reasoning. In Geometry sloppy thinking doesn't cut it. Either it is a right angle, which is defined as a 90 degree angle, or it is not. There is no, "well I sorta kinda think it might be."

Calculus is the mathematics of motion and change. In order to be able to clearly define changes and how it is affected by small amounts you have to understand the basics of Calculus.

Want to understand how the universe is laid out? Then you need Topology and the Mathematics of higher dimensional geometries.

Mathematics is useless only to those who do not understand and cannot and will not confront the real skull sweat it takes to gain a mastery of the basics, and the real basics extend well beyond how to add and subtract to make change at McDonalds.

Of course the other basic subjects are important too. In fact Martianus Capella thought they were so important that as the Roman Empire was dying he saw the need to leave a time capsule, in the form of a small library of books, called "The Seven Liberal Arts" which are the basis upon which ALL Western Education arose. Geometry was, in his estimation, one of the essential subjects for the educated person.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-19   14:19:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#2)

I take it you are mathematically challenged

No, I'm not. But 99% of the people in this country need nothing more than arithmetic. They don't need math at all.

Math is for those like it and are good at it. For everyone else, it's a waste of time.

After I got out of school, I never used algebra, trig or calculus. Not once.

Turtle  posted on  2011-02-19   14:48:39 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Turtle (#3)

No, I'm not. But 99% of the people in this country need nothing more than arithmetic.

That's a "Saudi" attitude.

If you want to see a country where that sort of orientation reigns supreme, pay that place a visit some time.

randge  posted on  2011-02-19   18:14:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#10. To: randge, Turtle (#9)

No, I'm not. But 99% of the people in this country need nothing more than arithmetic.

That's a "Saudi" attitude.

If you want to see a country where that sort of orientation reigns supreme, pay that place a visit some time.

If you want to see a country where that sort of orientation reigns supreme, pay that place the Ozarks a visit some time.

There, fixed it.

They is be some guud Banjo pickers though, and some good 'shine.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-02-19 18:44:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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