Coming from someone who fully accepts the official line on AGW, you don't have much room to throw stones.
Huh? It's been years since I spoke on the topic, and I don't have any real firm stance on it one way or the other. Why do you even bring it up?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
You might be right, OR, bucko really MIGHT have believed what he wrote.
Only buck knows for sure, if even that.
Buck has said I'm the only one who gets him. He tried on two occasions to play his little games with me and I refuse to play so he leaves me alone.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
What made me even discuss the topic with you in the first place is because your "experts" all seemed to have vested interests in making sure people thought the "correct" way to ensure the right pockets would be filled.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Huh? It's been years since I spoke on the topic, and I don't have any real firm stance on it one way or the other. Why do you even bring it up?
Because I'm a woman and I never forget past wrongs. In my mind you were being hypocritical.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
Because I'm a woman and I never forget past wrongs. In my mind you were being hypocritical.
In my mind you were shilling for the oil companies. I'm willing to bury the hatchet if you are.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
What made me even discuss the topic with you in the first place is because your "experts" all seemed to have vested interests in making sure people thought the "correct" way to ensure the right pockets would be filled.
And as I pointed out to you at the time, that was the official NWO line. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
And as I pointed out to you at the time, that was the official NWO line. It wasn't true then and it isn't true now.
It's much more profitable for the banks and the oil companies to continue what they're doing rather than allowing newer and cleaner power sources to replace oil.
Look at the Middle East for example. Why are we really there do you think?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
In my mind you were shilling for the oil companies. I'm willing to bury the hatchet if you are.
Again, you were the one shilling for the oil companies since they are the ones funding AGW. I'm willing to go back to ignoring you but I will never trust you.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
It's much more profitable for the banks and the oil companies to continue what they're doing rather than allowing newer and cleaner power sources to replace oil.
which just shows you really have no clue what is going on.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
Again, you were the one shilling for the oil companies since they are the ones funding AGW.
You are quite confused if you think the oil companies wish to stop selling oil at jacked up prices.
I'm willing to go back to ignoring you but I will never trust you
Likewise then.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
which just shows you really have no clue what is going on.
Huh huh. Whatever you say, since you apparently have to get the last word in.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
One thing I just checked on was yukturd's posting frequency - it is taking a real dive. I think he's going down. He's definitely tasting the poo.
He did reappear at Stone's site last night, guns firing as though nothing had happened. After taking around 150 head slams he finally owned up that Ibu = yukon - no shit? - and that he's "different".
After that, poof and gone.
What's interesting to me is that his special Alaskan friend Mad Dog is nowhere to be seen these days.
Hard to say with that post what his real intent is. His defense of Yukon may have been real for all I know. You just don't know with Buck. I wouldn't take any of it for real. I've only seen maybe three or four posts from Buck I thought were genuine and those were made to me, not others. It is very rare. Maybe I'm just naive on the whole thing too. You know me, I'm not going to change my opinion on Buck.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
Let us not allow the global warming question to overshadow our gloating, please...
I'm not the one who brought it up. Like I said, it's not even on my mind these days and I have no firm idea of whether or not it's a valid concern, other than the fact POLLUTION in general should be a concern for everyone.
EDIT:
ALSO, our dependence on oil is what is driving the wars in the Middle East, while the oil companies are raping us with their jacked up prices.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Meanwhile, the Wise and All-Knowing Lox has re-appeared at her site and appears to be completely oblivious to what has happened to her favorite "canary" (her term).
Because I'm a woman and I never forget past wrongs. In my mind you were being hypocritical.
But that is not evenly applied ff.......Bucky is often hypocritical, simply the act of being contrary solely for the purpose of being contrary is a brazen waste of other peoples' time. Yet, he projects the import of his analysis and consideration as the most significant topic of the land, much like Yukon likes to do. : )
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
What's interesting to me is that his special Alaskan friend Mad Dog is nowhere to be seen these days.
Hmmmm.
He went with Yukon to Vermont. I hear Jorge Bush is the Best Wom...Man. Catering for the wedding will be provided by La Raza and AIPAC at the BI-lingual ceremony.
I can accept that. I'm human. Yes, Buck gets special consideration from me. No secret there. Was I enjoying rubbing FL nose in it? You betcha. It is rare for me to do that but I took special pleasure in this one. Forty lashes with a wet noodle.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
You know me, I'm not going to change my opinion on Buck.
Yes, you are much more accepting of the disingenuous than the rest of us. I feel that it is a brazenly rude act to pretend to be genuine for the sole purpose of getting off on screwing with other people's heads......but that's just me.
If he truly is the head-trip you claim he is, then I must say, I like him less. If it were ignorance of perhaps even a genuine consideration of others, even Yukon, then I could accept that.......but contradiction and BS for the sole purpose of thinking oneself smart and smug is pathetic, IMHO.
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Was I enjoying rubbing FL nose in it? You betcha. It is rare for me to do that but I took special pleasure in this one.
Oh yes, I'm a hypocrite because I point out facts, where you bash me just because of perceived past wrongs.
What a wonderful person you are.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
I'm not the one who brought it up. Like I said, it's not even on my mind these days and I have no firm idea of whether or not it's a valid concern, other than the fact POLLUTION in general should be a concern for everyone.
Of course AGW has nothing to do with pollution at all but hey let's not split hairs. CO2 is not a pollutant. It is necessary for life actually.
ALSO, our dependence on oil is what is driving the wars in the Middle East, while the oil companies are raping us with their jacked up prices.
Prices that are artificially jacked up BECAUSE of the AGW crap. It is planned that way. Manufactured shortages always drive up price and they are manufacturing shortages with the AGW environmental controls. That's the way the NWO works. They also make a killing off the green stuff because of government subsidies. When the subsidies dry up, they pull out and projects go under. It is a win win for them.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
I feel that it is a brazenly rude act to pretend to be genuine for the sole purpose of getting off on screwing with other people's heads......but that's just me.
Agreed and there have been many times when I have called Buck on his crap. Much of that is forgotten by most. Not a real surprise since I'm known for my defense of Buck.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
#290. To: farmfriend, FormerLurker, wudidiz (#288)
Manufactured shortages always drive up price and they are manufacturing shortages with the AGW environmental controls.
The point in controlling the Oil resources is not to produce and sell it but to continue manufacturing shortages in order to keep the price up. There is NO SHORTAGE of Oil. Everything we have seen in the last 3 or 4 years confirms that. Iraq's reserves are larger than the Saudi's. The Gulf is overflowing with it, as is the coast of Florida and there are greater volumes in Alaska. The Gull Island reserve which is capped and intentionally hidden and kept off the market is reputed to be larger than the Saudi reserves as well. THERE IS NO OIL SHORTAGE BEYOND WHAT IS MANUFACTURED ARTIFICIALLY BY CONTROLLING ACCESS TO THE SUPPLY.
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Meanwhile, the Wise and All-Knowing Lox has re-appeared at her site and appears to be completely oblivious to what has happened to her favorite "canary" (her term).
I got that sucker (thread)... pardon the pun... saved up to #530.
The point in controlling the Oil resources is not to produce and sell it but to continue manufacturing shortages in order to keep the price up. There is NO SHORTAGE of Oil. Everything we have seen in the last 3 or 4 years confirms that. Iraq's reserves are larger than the Saudi's. The Gulf is overflowing with it, as is the coast of Florida and there are greater volumes in Alaska. The Gull Island reserve which is capped and intentionally hidden and kept off the market is reputed to be larger than the Saudi reserves as well. THERE IS NO OIL SHORTAGE BEYOND WHAT IS MANUFACTURED ARTIFICIALLY BY CONTROLLING ACCESS TO THE SUPPLY.
Exactly.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
CO2 is not a pollutant. It is necessary for life actually
Burning oil does more than just produce CO2. In fact, the production of petroleum derived plastics does a LOT more damage to the environment.
What the question was in terms of global warming was whether or not the CO2 was rising to abnormal levels, where the earth could not absorb what was being produced.
Humans don't require CO2, but plants (including ocean plankton) do. Thing is, too much of ANYTHING can be bad.
Bottom line is, there are more than likely cheaper and better ways to produce energy, and to produce necessary items such as plastics. Thing is, there is NO way in hell they will be allowed to replace oil, since those who pull the strings rely on oil for their monopoly on power and energy.
Hence, the idea that oil companies would be FOR curtailing their own profits seems a bit ludicrous.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#296. To: Original_Intent, farmfriend, wudidiz (#290)
THERE IS NO OIL SHORTAGE BEYOND WHAT IS MANUFACTURED ARTIFICIALLY BY CONTROLLING ACCESS TO THE SUPPLY.
Yep, thing is they don't need global warming as an excuse, they do it today as we speak for the simple reason they can and they do.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Prices that are artificially jacked up BECAUSE of the AGW crap.
The prices are artificially jacked up due to deals between OPEC and the oil companies that maximize profits, along with sweetheart deals with the government.
Global warming, if anything, would FORCE the companies to abandon oil to a large degree and focus on new technology.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
What the question was in terms of global warming was whether or not the CO2 was rising to abnormal levels, where the earth could not absorb what was being produced.
Since we are historic lows for the planet I doubt that is the case.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
#300. To: Original_Intent, wudidiz, FormerLurker, (#298)
Sorry, lost my head for a moment.
That's all right, I have to go to work anyway.
The Pentagon announced TODAY the formation of a new 500-man elite fighting unit called the United States Redneck Special Forces (USRSF) These boys will be dropped off in Afghanistan and have been given only the following facts about terrorists: 1. The season opened today. 2. There is no limit. 3. They taste just like chicken. 4. They don't like beer, pickups, country music or Jesus .... 5. They are directly responsible for the death of Dale Earnhardt. The Pentagon expects the problem in Afghanistan to be over by Friday.
Since we are historic lows for the planet I doubt that is the case.
Like I said, I'm not convinced one way or the other. Climate change is what is predicted, not so much "warming", but vast changes in weather patterns. Now is it caused by too much carbon dioxide? Who knows.
The sun has been acting odd, and other planets in the solar system are experiencing the same sorts of weird changes in their climates.
Perhaps global warming was a ruse to cover up what was really going on, and at the same time allow greedy SOBs to cash in on the "carbon credit" scam.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen