A 25-mile commute through Russian traffic and a powerful two-wheeled samurai sword, and you get a video showing the "quick" way to work. Sometimes this two-wheeler even becomes a one-wheeler as rare empty stretches of road disappear when the nose goes skyward.
Yeah, well, they don't have a half a dozen jewWars going on with another half dozen in the works.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner. My Man Godfrey (1936 2011)
I ride motorcycles, am a member of the Iron Butt Association (over 1,000 miles in 24 hours) and have cruised for hours at 85-95 on the open, almost vacant, roads of the mid-west. This guy is not long for the world...it's seldom what YOU do that gets you killed...it's almost always something the other driver does that "gets you"...talking on cell phones, fiddeling with the radio, putting on make-up, reading a map...the list goes on and on....ALL these guys die eventually. you tube "ghost rider" if you want to see some 150-190 mph traffic dodging...and yep, I heard he's no longer with us. NOTHING comes close to the feeling of the open road on two wheels...I just like to keep it under 3 digits...but that's just me...I guess I really am getting old.
I went to you-tube and found this one on the ghost rider...he's legendary among the motorcycle adrenaline junkies, he routinely hits 150-180 mph in traffic...like I said, I heard he is no longer with us...don't know for sure though
In the DFW Metroplex the EMT's/cops call the sport-bike riders "organ donors".
__________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
Mrs. F has been very understanding of "my needs". In fact, if I fake a bad mood long enough...she will insist I go burn a tank of gas to get outta my "bad mood"...kinda like throwing the rabbit in the briar patch...OK honey, if you insist...snicker :?)
I ride motorcycles, am a member of the Iron Butt Association (over 1,000 miles in 24 hours) and have cruised for hours at 85-95 on the open, almost vacant, roads of the mid-west. This guy is not long for the world...it's seldom what YOU do that gets you killed...it's almost always something the other driver does that "gets you"...talking on cell phones, fiddeling with the radio, putting on make-up, reading a map...the list goes on and on....
Yeah. I was watching that video and thinking to myself that all he needed was just one of the people driving a car or truck to lose their concentration for just a few seconds and drift over a foot or two--and then he's a dead man. It's stupid to ride that way in traffic.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
I went through Atlanta 2 years ago and all I could think was "what the crap am I doing here!!! Traffic sucks and high speed traffic can be deadly...I just assume they're all out to kill you and drive accordingly.
no doubt...that song ALWAYS puts me "in the mood" to find out where some road goes. Geez...I have a patient/understanding wife...or maybe she's thinking about the life insurance... :?)
I'm told that this video is a year old and that he got hit this year and died. Apparently there was a guy in Spain doing the same thing that also died.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
That is a nice scooter. Looks brand new. I used to have a Harley. '65 model panhead. I guess if I still had it and could afford to I would make a chopper out of it.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
I went through Atlanta 2 years ago and all I could think was "what the crap am I doing here!!! Traffic sucks and high speed traffic can be deadly...I just assume they're all out to kill you and drive accordingly.
Yeah, it is not a bad thing to be "paranoidial"* when you ride a motorcycle.
*Ax Ike invented that word.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
Farmfriend....THAT'S SWEET!!! And a HUGE powerplant to boot. I had mine rebuilt to 103 Cubes and I'm looking at 90 hp and 100 torque...it's a drug, isn't it. I just got back from the Outer Banks bike rally a couple weeks ago. Me and a friend went to Sturgis several years ago (1700 miles one way) and at night we'd crash out in our sleeping bags laying beside the bikes, just staring at the stars. Nothing like it. Do you ever do any of the rallies?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
I'm told that this video is a year old and that he got hit this year and died. Apparently there was a guy in Spain doing the same thing that also died.
It's easy. Just click where it says "share" and then click on the link that says "embed" and copy and paste the embed link. Some of them will say something like embedding disabled by request. It took me a few tries to get the Easy Riders one I posted because of that.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
That is a nice scooter. Looks brand new. I used to have a Harley. '65 model panhead. I guess if I still had it and could afford to I would make a chopper out of it.
Thanks James...it's an 07. It just turned 34k miles. I used to have a chopper with the long rake and king/queen seat...they look good but I just can't do the miles per day on one of those things...I'm getting, well,....older. But STILL a youngster at heart!
Dang James...sometimes I'm really not sure it IS being paranoid...I'm often completely convinced they're out to get me... LOL!!!
I was always convinced they were out to get me too. Could be one thing that kept me alive for this long.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
I used to have a chopper with the long rake and king/queen seat
I did too but it wasn't a Harley. Got my Harley after that. But my chopper was something to behold and beat you to death. But pretty doesn't describe it, it was beautiful. It had a 16 over, twisted springer front end, 10 degree rake (iirc), Amen rigid frame, king and queen seat, Maltese cross mirrors and brake light and one in the sissy bar and a custom paint job. Only thing left stock on that bike was the toolbox and I had it chromed.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
That sounds GORGEOUS. I had mine in HS...got it when I was 17. It was a Harley 1973 1000 sportster with a raked out front and high king/queen seat and three FABULOUS murals painted on the tank...man, I wish I'd saved that bike!! It was when AMF owned Harley and that bike would vibrate the fillings out of your teeth and it ALWAYS dripped oil. It was a bear to do long distance...but I was young and it didn't matter...all I wanted to do was ride. I remember a TV show called "Then came Bronson"...I always wanted to take a year or so off and do nothing but travel the country...almost did right after HS...almost!
I remember that Then Came Bronson show too. And thanks for the compliment--I wish I had a picture of it on imageshack but I don't even have one here in the drawer anymore.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
We've Got Tonight...1978...I was 20 years old and just moved to Atlanta GA...what a time and what a place. Wild as a buck and crazy in love...yep, those were GREAT days. Some things don't change :?)
Yea...I wish I had been better about taking pictures back then also. Now I'm curious...what was yours... a Triumph? The Bonnevilles were really getting popular back then?
4um has good folks and good stuff all over the board.
Have fun, get informed, it's all here for us.
no doubt...I've been a luker for a very long time...post every now and then...but always check in the see what's happening...been reading your stuff for quite a while. :?)
Yea...I wish I had been better about taking pictures back then also. Now I'm curious...what was yours... a Triumph? The Bonnevilles were really getting popular back then?
No, that one was a Honda. Never had a Triumph but a guy I used to ride with had one. I have owned three motorcycles. The Honda, the Harley Electra Glide and a Kawasaki 550. I loved all of 'em.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
you know Lod...I say it all the time...we're only here for a blink...looking back, we can see how fast we get here. Amazing really, I'm 53 and, praise GOD, in great health and doing good with lots of miles yet to go, GOD willing, and we don't end up in a crazy civil war with these nuts in DC. But what a GREAT ride it's been so far...man, what A Ride!
Remember when the Honda came out with the 750 four cylinder...that was considered a HUGE bike. I have a friend that rides an old 47 Indian. Those old bikes are GREAT...I don't know if you do any of the rallies, but you get to see some really beautiful vintage bikes. Anything on 2 wheels is great. Hey, who knows, I may end up with a Gold Wing also...my wife wants something more "comfortable",... go figure! :?)
Nice bike critter...makes me wish I had saved my '73...something cool about those older bikes.
Life is not a journey to the grave With the intention of Arriving safely in a pretty And well preserved body, But rather to skid in broadside, Thoroughly used up, Totally worn out, And loudly proclaiming,
makes me wish I had saved my '73...something cool about those older bikes.
Thanks. My daughter is going to inherit this one.
I was at the HD dealer the other day, looking at new Road Kings, but you know what, that just isn't me. I like my old clunker. I like breaking down where ever I go, and having to mend things on the the side of the road, with rudimentary hand tools, good old fashioned yankee ingenuity, and a roll of baling wire. :)
I have a 27 yo son that will most likely end up with mine. I'd love to do a road trip with him...but he LOVES speed, and that can get you killed on a bike. So, call me a hypocrite, I hope he waits till he gets this "speed" thing out of his system before he gets his own. Critter, I got to tell ya...it's about that breaking down thing...everybody as something that floats their boat, but I HATE breaking down...and have been in the "great middle of nowhere", many times, where it would have sucked large! These newer bikes are really a completely different animal than the older bikes...VERY reliable and should go 100-150k miles with care. I know my limitations...I'm not a good mechanic...but I'd sure like you along on the next trip, because it sounds like you are! So, consider yourself officially invited!
We get together with a group from an M-109 forum. We are meeting in Pismo Beach this week. Will be about 30 bikes and about 40 people. Last year a bunch came over from Australia, some from Canada, and they all got together down in Los Vegas. Hotel set parking aside for the bikes on the 5th floor of the parking garage. Do you know what happens to car alarms when 30 bikes go by? They should have put them on the ground floor.
We also go up to Reno from Street Vibrations. Nice ride over the hill.
Here is our friend's M-109.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
The car alarm thing can be funny...been there, done that. The m109 is a nice bike...I like the looks of yours better though...it looks sleeker to my eyes. Beautiful scenery in the background...where is this? Laconia bike rally is coming up next month and if I can sneak away from work I want to ride up through New Hampshire and Maine and see the sights...
am a member of the Iron Butt Association (over 1,000 miles in 24 hours)
I salute you.
Personally, I was prone to monkey butt on my Duel-Sport, but I've never ridden my Hog any distance. I just moved and haven't moved my bike yet, so I'll be riding about 225 miles (after diving the same distance) to get it. The saddle on my HD is a lot more comfortable than the narrow, thin one on the Duel, so wish me luck.
I'll be keeping the speedo in the 2 digit range too.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
I sold real estate in Atlanta for 19 years...I'm familiar with each and every one of the exits...it made me want to stop by the Varsity for a "dog". Is that you on that V-Max...if it is, slow that rascal down before you get yourself hurt/dead. Thanks for the video...that's my old stomping grounds!
Flint...if I'm doing any distance....anything over 300-400 miles...I ALWAYS use an Airhawk seat cushion on the seat. These things are UNBELIEVABLE...it makes all the difference in the world. I spent 18 hours in the saddle the day I did the 1,000 miles...it really wasn't all that bad, but you have to be where you can average about 70 mph because you have to stop every 150 miles or so for a stretch and gas. I did it in Oct last year...if I had it to do over I would have waited for warmer nights and longer days...say like July through September. Go luck on your trip and watch out for the "cagers" they're ALL out to "get you".
It looks kinda like he's headed south on the 400 from time to time.
It's interesting you say that, as that was my impression the first time viewing it. Thanks to the pause button, we can see his route is more like this:
He starts out on Moreland Ave and I-20, East of downtown. The first set of traffic signs are for Capital Ave., Turner Field, 75/85 North & South. He runs up the connector and then onto 75N.
You must be sort of local, I'm out west of town, south of Carrollton.
Speed limits...in Atlanta?? LOL. I always told my friends, if they ever got a speeding ticket in Atlanta, they WORKED to get it. 19 years and NEVER a speeding ticket. Anyone doing under 75 on 285 is very likly to get rear ended or cause a serious wreck...craziest place I've ever driven...Miami may be the 2nd.
I've got an old one, an '88, and it blows my mind how fast it'll go.
they don't call them "crotch rockets" for nothing. I swear some of those things have afterburners...I was doing 90 mph on I-90 in S. Dakota and I had 2 riders pass me like I was in reverse...they must have been doing 135-150...It was NUTS... I only THOUGHT I was rolling along..,
I live in the Blue Ridge mountains of Virginia, just outside Roanoke.
You mean the Blue Ridge bumps? We go from 32' here in the valley to 11,000'. The pass we go over to Reno is over 7,000'. I'm going to try and get some better background pictures to show you.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
they don't call them "crotch rockets" for nothing. I swear some of those things have afterburners...I was doing 90 mph on I-90 in S. Dakota and I had 2 riders pass me like I was in reverse...they must have been doing 135-150...It was NUTS... I only THOUGHT I was rolling along..,
We have had our bikes up to 135 on Hwy 70 with two riders. First time was on the '83 Suzuki 750. Second was with the Honda posted above and I'm not a small woman any more.
I've found some good pics but have to transfer them from one computer to the other.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Compared to what you have...you're right...we have bumps! 5,000 is TALL around here...Mt Rogers in 5,700 and is the tallest mountain in VA. The Mountains out west are truly magnificent...and make for some great 2 wheel get aways. The mountains in the east are breathtaking in the spring and fall...a mosaic of pastels in Autumn...no place like it.
the cell phone worry me as much as anything...I see to many people trying to text and drive at the same time...believe me, I give those folks a wide birth. And you'll LOVE the Airhawk.
GREAT pics FF. It makes me want to do another "go round" through the mid west. I really want to run the old route 66 and see the Grand Canyon... sleeping under the stars at night, it just doesn't get any better :?)
check out the Can AM spyders...I'll bet you could get the Mrs. to say yes to that...then we could all meet and do a Freedom4um bike run...how cool would THAT be!
Not bad at all...check out e-bay. They're getting really popular, I saw a guy riding one yesterday and have a friend that's buying one in the next couple months. Depending on the model and year you should be able to find one anywhere from 10k to 25k
Considering the general worthlessness of our fiat $$$, that's not too awful.
Go do it...this life isn't a rehersal for the next
"Life is not a journey to the grave With the intention of Arriving safely in a pretty And well preserved body, But rather to skid in broadside, Thoroughly used up, Totally worn out, And loudly proclaiming,
Yes we do...and thank you for the other. I didn't realize you are married to Christine until reading these posts last night...a wonderful lady...I remember her well from one of the other sites.
The Can Am's are a great way to go...I see them more and more at the rallies and on the road. They have a wonderful touring model for folks that like to travel and have qyros in them that make it almost impossible to turn over. The open road waits for you my friend...
I think it would be SERIOUSLY neat if a bunch of the "crazy" folks on this forum could plan a little "get together". I mean, how fun would THAT BE! Hey, we could EVEN invite some of the feds that monitor this site...you know...so we could get to know them and they could get to know us!
I stupidly clicked on the link and saw it - what a beauty, with a semi-auto tranny, and only 3 miles.
Late last year we were discussing getting together at christine's gorgeous home, but right now, it is 96 and feels like 99: too damned hot to do anything but crank down the AC, and find a cool one.
Somewhere in Kenya, a village is still missing its idiot.
that's ONE of the reasons I don't miss Atlanta...the heat was awful and the humidity worse. Those kind of tempertures suck it out of me too. And yes, the Can Ams are beautiful machines...
That guy is going to be decorating the road with his brains sooner than later if he drives like that everyday.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Now that you mention it, I remember that being the case...fortunately, I'm not an allergy sufferer so it never really bothered me, but I certainly remember most of my friends had a horrible time with it. It was mostly indoors and a/c for me when the temps went north. Atlanta had 2 tempertures...hot and unbearable. It's not called Hotlanta for nothing...although that would also descibe a great majority of the fairer sex...that place had the most beautiful women of any place I've ever been...simply stunning!
Remember when the Honda came out with the 750 four cylinder...that was considered a HUGE bike. I have a friend that rides an old 47 Indian. Those old bikes are GREAT...I don't know if you do any of the rallies, but you get to see some really beautiful vintage bikes. Anything on 2 wheels is great. Hey, who knows, I may end up with a Gold Wing also...my wife wants something more "comfortable",... go figure! :?)
Yes, I remember the 750. It was indeed a good-sized bike. I like old bikes too and if I had the money and could find one I would buy an old pan or knuck and make another chopper. I think that there is nothing much prettier than a pan or knucklehead Harley engine in a twin downtube, rigid frame (or soft tail) with a beautiful custom paint job.
Those are pics I found of a 1947 knuck which has been highly customized.
And a nice panhead on youtube:
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
The pans and knuckles are true classics and people ALWAYS gravitate to them when one shows up...and the stories go on for hours. The one in the picture...now THAT'S a classic. Mine wasn't quite that raked out but that sure brings back memories. It's a blast seeing this vintage machines at these gatherings...and "rat bikes"...but THAT'S a whole nother topic.
It looks kinda like he's headed south on the 400 from time to time.
He's rolling north on 75/85. I have driven through Atlanta a lot (never on a bike though).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
North on the 75-85 interchange...Spring street is south of Howell Mill so he must be rolling north...that's my guess.
Your guess would be correct. I stopped the video for the interchange signs and it clearly showed he was going north on 75/85.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
When a pan cranks in one kick, yeah, that's sweet! The '65 I had was a pan (first year they came out actually) and it was a rare thing when it cranked on the first kick when it was cold.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
The pans and knuckles are true classics and people ALWAYS gravitate to them when one shows up...and the stories go on for hours. The one in the picture...now THAT'S a classic. Mine wasn't quite that raked out but that sure brings back memories. It's a blast seeing this vintage machines at these gatherings...and "rat bikes"...but THAT'S a whole nother topic.
Mine was pretty close to that in the front end. A very long bike and not really a good ride in the mountains but fun on a good stretch of road. But hit a bump with it at any speed and you could just about count on going airborne. No suspension to speak of in those springs on the springer. But it LOOKED good and when I was the age I was then, that was what counted, y'know?
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
Yeah, I remember that bike. A Sportster and it always sounded good.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
THAT statement I understand. I never really knew girls liked bikes until I got one...what a concept!
Like ducks to junebugs.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
He (Gordon Duff) also implies that forcibly removing Obama, a Constitution-hating, on-the-down-low, crackhead Communist, is an attack on America, Mom, and apple pie. I swear these military people are worse than useless. Just look around at the condition of the country and tell me if they have fulfilled their oaths to protect the nation from all enemies foreign and domestic. OsamaBinGoldstein
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has it's limits. Albert Einstein
Flint...I KNEW you had stepped in it some posts back! LOL...now if you don't quit hitting that hornets nest with a stick...YOU'RE GONNA GET STUNG! Anything with 2 wheels or 3...it's ALL good. You 2 fuss like a couple married folks...ever heard that? LOL
Actually, we have no clue as to what girls want, until we get one
I have a LOOONG, LOOOONG list of what they DON'T like, but you're right. I'm STILL working on the "what they like" list. I'm having a little more trouble with THAT one.
I have a LOOONG, LOOOONG list of what they DON'T like, but you're right. I'm STILL working on the "what they like" list. I'm having a little more trouble with THAT one.
girls are easy. I do provide advice on occasion.
I also have that tutorial on women's language.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
HEY....you'd didn't see ME kicking that hornets nest! I KNOW where some of Harleys stuff comes from...now, if you want to call Honda TWICE the bike of a Harley...that's another topic LOL!
...now, if you want to call Honda TWICE the bike of a Harley...that's another topic LOL!
Ok we can just agree to disagree on that one.
The Secrets of Women's Language - A must-read for any man
Keywords and their meanings:
"Fine": This is the word we use at the end of any argument that we feel we are right about but need to shut you up. NEVER use fine to describe how woman looks. This will cause you to have one of those arguments.
"Five minutes": This is half an hour. It is equivalent to the five minutes that your football game is going to last before you take out the trash, so it's an even trade.
"Nothing": This means something and you should be on your toes. "Nothing" is usually used to describe the feeling a woman has of wanting to turn you inside out, upside down, and backwards. "Nothing" usually signifies an argument that will last "Five Minutes" and end with the word "Fine".
"Go Ahead" (with raised eyebrows): This is a dare. One that will result in a woman getting upset over "Nothing" and will end with the word "Fine".
"Go Ahead" (normal eyebrows): This means "I give up" or "do what you want because I don't care". You will get a raised eyebrow "Go ahead" in just a few minutes, followed by "Nothing" and "Fine" and she will talk to you in about "Five Minutes" when she cools off.
"Loud Sigh" : This is not actually a word, but is still often a verbal statement very misunderstood by men. A "Loud Sigh" means she thinks you are an idiot at that moment and wonders why she is wasting her time standing here and arguing with you over "Nothing".
"Soft Sighs": Again, not a word, but a verbal statement. "Soft Sighs" are one of the few things that some men actually understand. She is content. Your best bet is to not move or breathe and she will stay content.
"Oh": This word followed by any statement is trouble. Example; "Oh, let me get that". Or, "Oh, I talked to him about what you were doing last night." If she says "Oh" before a statement, RUN, do not walk, to the nearest exit. She will tell you that she is "Fine" when she is done tossing your clothes out the window, but do not expect her to talk to you for at least 2 days. "Oh" as the lead to a sentence usually signifies that you are caught in a lie. Do not try to lie more to get out of it, or you will get raised eyebrows "Go ahead" followed by acts so unspeakable that we can't bring ourselves to write about them.
"That's Okay": This is one of the most dangerous statements that a woman can say to a man. "That's Okay" means that she wants to think long and hard before paying you retributions for what ever it is that you have done. "That's Okay" is often used with the word "Fine" and used in conjunction with a raised eyebrow "Go ahead". At some point in the near future when she has plotted and planned, you are going to be in some mighty big trouble.
"Please Do": This is not a statement, it is an offer. A woman is giving you the chance to come up with whatever excuse or reason you have for doing whatever it is that you have done. You have a fair chance to tell the truth, so be careful and you shouldn't get a "That's Okay".
"Thanks": A woman is thanking you. Do not faint; just say you're welcome.
"Thanks a lot": This is much different from "Thanks". A woman will say, "Thanks a lot" when she is really ticked off at you. It signifies that you have hurt her in some callous way, and will be followed by the "Loud Sigh". Be careful not to ask what is wrong after the "Loud Sigh", as she will only tell you "Nothing".
I hope this clears up any misunderstandings...
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Carburetor? They phased those out in 06. I know that because I bought an 06 because I wanted one. They're less picky on fuel.
That said, who cares if the bike has some foreign parts. I'm sure the Honda does to.
The bottom line: HD is an American legend, they sound different, they ride different, they're built different, they last longer,they're the best, and the choice of the best.
The rice grinder crowd is always making excuses why they bough some piece of jap crap. You saved some money? Good, spend it on leathers and tattoos so you can look like a Hog rider but remember: We're all laughing at you.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
my life would have been a lot less complicated with that list 20 years ago...I've got the "fine" thing figured out, and it was figured out early. When my future wife asked me one night how she looked on the way out the door, I replied "fine". I "came to" about 2 hours latter...with a crystal clear understanding that "fine", when describing how your significant other looks, would resurrect the spawn of Satan!
Even Sonny Barger quit Harley, he's on a Victory Vision because he said the amount of miles he rides each year makes a Harley worthless upon trade-in (for him). Read it in the April 2011 issue of Twisted South. That's my contribution to this thread :-)
__________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
The bottom line: HD is an American legend, they sound different, they ride different, they're built different, they last longer,they're the best, and the choice of the best.
How many cars have push rods?
they sound different,
Haven't heard a VTX have you?
they ride different,
Your right. The Honda is more comfortable with more power and less vibration.
they're built different, they last longer,they're the best,
LOL Buying an expensive brand name does not make it the best.
The rice grinder crowd is always making excuses why they bough some piece of jap crap. You saved some money? Good, spend it on leathers and tattoos so you can look like a Hog rider but remember: We're all laughing at you.
Now that is funny. I don't know ANY Honda rider that is trying to imitate ANYTHING HD. They buy their bikes not because they are cheaper, they are, but because mechanically they are better. Dependable bikes with more power, smother ride. Read the reviews for yourself.
I'll post more when I get back. Have to pick up the kid from work.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
The bottom line: HD is an American legend, they sound different, they ride different, they're built different, they last longer,they're the best, and the choice of the best.
The rice grinder crowd is always making excuses why they bough some piece of jap crap. You saved some money? Good, spend it on leathers and tattoos so you can look like a Hog rider but remember: We're all laughing at you.
...still kicking that nest....Son, you got guts! LOL
honestly...I like all bikes. But the one thing Harley definitely has over other bikes is trade-in value, even the older ones are highly sought after. 30 year old Harleys are still looked upon as an American Classic...and they are. Having said all that...ALL modern bikes are so much better made than they were 15 years ago it's really kinda pointless arguing who makes "the best". We all ride what we ride because we like to ride it. The Japanese HAVE done a wonderful job of capturing the allure of the Harley V-Twins...I think the Shadow is a GREAT looking bike...and from a distance, I have a hard time telling what's a Harley and what isn't.
Now, I've never ridden more than about 300 miles in a day but I've ridden in 3 countries on 2 continents. I've ridden everything from dirt trails to perfectly paved roads. I know what lasts, what breaks and what wears out.
Without a doubt, the HD is the finest road machine I have ever mounted. I can't comment on the other American made bikes nor the Euro-peon stuff, but I'm still waiting to see a jap bike with 30,000 miles on it that's not ready for the scrap heap.
And yeah, I know all about the high milage Gold Wings. If I wanted to pull a trailer, I'd buy a convertible.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
but I'm still waiting to see a jap bike with 30,000 miles on it that's not ready for the scrap heap.
I've got 34k on my HD and the only thing I've needed was a stader. I'd jump on that bike tonight and ride to the Pacific ocean and back and never worry about a break down...that's a fact.
Me too, but when you pull up at a light you can hear the difference and they won't look you in the eye.
That's funny but true...I rode to Sturgis with a buddy that rides a big Yamaha...he was completely decked out in Harley garb. I ribbed him about it for 4,000 miles.
Jennifer Anniston...so I have to watch every chick flick she's in...
__________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
I've got 34k on my HD and the only thing I've needed was a stader. I'd jump on that bike tonight and ride to the Pacific ocean and back and never worry about a break down...that's a fact.
Exactly, try that that with jap crap and you'll be calling a cab.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
My Yamaha buddy often refers to "moving up" to a Harley...He'll be the first to say he wants one. He rode mine one day and said the difference was unbelievable. I know I've put loads of miles on mine, had many 500 mile plus days and I've never thought, boy, I wish I had something else.
maybe, but my FXSTC has a wide 200 back tire and a skinny 21 inch front tire so tire width isn't such a great guide anymore. The bike in the 2nd video is really nice.
I'll probably have pictures of this weeks ride to post later.
Saw the new Star the other day. Boys in the car were looking at it wondering what it was and who makes it. I laughed. I actually knew that it was the new Star by Yamaha.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
#189. To: farmfriend, Freedomsnotfree, Lod, Flintlock (#179)
I've got to confess, I've been looking at a Royal Enfield Bullet Classic just because they're different. I know, they're built in India....
__________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
the new screaming eagles have 110's. Mine is a 103 with 6 speeds and it pulls like a freight train at 90 mph, I can't imagine what the bigger motors feel like. I only tech 2500ish rpms at 75 mph.
Mine's coming up on 40 years old, and it's getting refreshed again so it can keep putting along for another 10 or 12 years. Got all the sheet metal off it tonight and sanded off the old paint. Tomorrow the heads and jugs come off for a fresh top end. Next weekend the paint should be done, in two weeks she'll be good as new, once again. :)
That is totally awesome. Probably better than sex. I dont remember what sex feels like... but I'm pretty sure what that bike rider was feeling was better. lol.
Yea...weather here is sunny and in the 70's, close to perfect...
"Life is not a journey to the grave With the intention of Arriving safely in a pretty And well preserved body, But rather to skid in broadside, Thoroughly used up, Totally worn out, And loudly proclaiming,
GOOD GRIEF FF...I must have chosen the wrong career...I don't know ANYBODY with that many bikes...well, I didn't until just now. GREAT BIKES! Do you have you're own, or do you ride on the back...I'm seeing more and more ladies with their own bikes...
GOOD GRIEF FF...I must have chosen the wrong career...I don't know ANYBODY with that many bikes...
This is a group gathering. We only have two bikes. The VTX and a Yamaha 400 for our son to ride. I'm just a passanger though I have toyed with the idea of learning to ride myself. I wanted to learn when I was younger but had no one to teach me.
You're far to kind youg lady...(BLUSH)...Thank you!
I doubt that I'm much younger than you. Besides, I like men who are not just old enough to know what they are doing but have had enough practice to do it well.
Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Length. Notice that is feet not inches. Armadillos have very large penises. If they were human it would be 4'.
Trivia info I was unaware of...SO..."Hung like a horse" is actually insulting...if you're an armadillo. LOL...Dang...I guess I'll just pack up my marbles and go home...I can't "hang" with the crowd.
OMG! I've been missing lewd and tawdry e-exchanges!!
__________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
you're are more than welcome...I'd steal your screen name but I couldn't "measure up"...I didn't realize that until tonight...the things you find out on a forum!
#237. To: Flintlock, Freedomsnotfree, farmfriend, Lod, Critter (#232)
Rice grinder copy of HD you'd be lucky to get 25k miles out of.
This coming from a man who owns four Rokon's??
;-) j/k
__________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
I was just kidding. No motorcycle thread is complete without dragging in that red-headed stepchild ;-)
__________________________________________________________ "This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?"
“The best and first guarantor of our neutrality and our independent existence is the defensive will of the people…and the proverbial marksmanship of the Swiss shooter. Each soldier a good marksman! Each shot a hit!” -Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
OK, OK, but seriously, let's be COMPLETELY honest and fair here. We BOTH know 1 or maybe even 2 people that ride rice burners that aren't either gay OR metro- sexual. I mean, seriously...LOL!
#254. To: Freedomsnotfree, Flintlock, crutter (#248)(Edited)
OK, OK, but seriously, let's be COMPLETELY honest and fair here. We BOTH know 1 or maybe even 2 people that ride rice burners that aren't either gay OR metro- sexual. I mean, seriously...LOL!
OK, OK, but seriously, let's be COMPLETELY honest and fair here. We BOTH know 1 or maybe even 2 people that ride rice burners that aren't either gay OR metro- sexual. I mean, seriously...LOL!
You hog riders think very highly of yourselves don't you. Just about every person I see riding a Japanese cruiser ride them for several reasons, none of which includes being gay or "metro-sexual".
The reasons are;
They're relatively inexpensive to buy and maintain
They look good
They ride and handle well
They have a good amount of power
The people who ride them don't need that Harley-Davidson logo to make themselves feel like "real men"
A lot of Harley riders are pretty decent folks too, although there are some stuck up snobs who think just because they ride a Harley, they're super cool. Such people apparently have a self esteem issue, and need a big expensive bike to boost their egos and feel important. That, and they think it helps them score with chicks.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
A lot of Harley riders are pretty decent folks too, although there are some stuck up snobs who think just because they ride a Harley, they're super cool. Such people apparently have a self esteem issue, and need a big expensive bike to boost their egos and feel important. That, and they think it helps them score with chicks.
Wrong on all counts.....bitch!
I ride a Hog cause it's the best road bike and they last....period.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
lurker...I joke with folks all the time, but the fact is, I have friends that ride Honda's, Yamaha's, Kawasaki's and I have a friend that just bought a Can AM Spyder that I rode the other day and it was a hoot...it's all good. I happen to like Harley's, but anything that gets you out of a "cage" and lets you smell the air and feel the wind works for me. But seriously...Harley's ARE a chick magnet...everyone that rides one finds that out real quick...LOL
Let's see you get your Hardly up to 110 with two people on it.
don't put any money on that bet...mine pulls like a freight train at 110 and has loads of speed left in it...that six speed lets you cruise all day at 100 plus...I personally don't like crusing at much over 80...but out West, we'd cruise between 85-95 for miles.
I hear ya...they had the Myrtle Beach bike rally last month and it went off without a hitch...after that was black biker week and apparently they literally tore the town up...shootings, looting, stabbings, stealing...crazy stuff. One news paper article I read had the headline as "8 Hours of Hell". From the article it looks like things were pretty much out of control for a while...I'll bet that's the end of bike week at Myrtle Beach...we'll see.
I ride a Hog cause it's the best road bike and they last....period.
Most people I know who've owned Harley's are constantly fixing them, and spend as much money in "upgrading" the bike to make it work the way it's supposed to work as they spent buying it new.
Not only that, but from what I've read, Harley Davidson service sucks ass where they usually fuck up the bike worse than it was when it came to the shop, charge an arm and a leg, and take months to perform a two hour fix.
And like I said, it's pretty obvious that there are some who buy Harleys because they need it to feel like a "big man".
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
It seems a lot of these posers go to extreme lengths to disguise the fact they're rice riders.
Did you know that many Harley parts are made in China? So what do THEY burn, soy sauce?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
Well that's cool. I WAS thinking of a Harley myself awhile back, just didn't have the funds to get one. Ended up fixing my old Honda, an 84 Shadow. It gets around, and didn't set me back 18 grand or more.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
After a little reading, just about EVERY HD part is made in CHINA since 2005. They are only assembled in the US, everything else is made in China or Mexico.
On the other hand, the Honda VTX is made in Ohio from 100% US MADE parts.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
And like I said, it's pretty obvious that there are some who buy Harleys because they need it to feel like a "big man".
More bullshit.....I think I hit a nerve.....LOL
Not only that, but from what I've read, Harley Davidson service sucks ass where they usually fuck up the bike worse than it was when it came to the shop, charge an arm and a leg, and take months to perform a two hour fix.
Even More BS. I've had no problems with my local dealer. However in the past, I was usually ripped off by my local grinder dealer, plus the bike was a pos and I only got about 20k out of it.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Most people I know who've owned Harley's are constantly fixing them,
I've had no problems with mine. I did have to buy a new tire, a new battery and do the 5,000 mile servicing when I bought it.
It was all figured into my buying price and except for the battery, had it done by a HD dealer. (I did buy a HD AGM battery). I could have saved some money by having the work done by one of the numerous non HD shops that specialize in "American Motorcycles"
Next time I will.
"The person who agrees with you 80 percent of the time is a friend and an ally — not a 20 percent traitor" - Ronald Reagan
Maybe not EVERY part, but OVER 50% comes from China and elsewhere. Did you know your shocks are made by Honda?
Look up "Harley Davidson parts made in China", it'll make your "it's made in the USA" bubble burst.
There's a reason they can't say "Made in the USA" anymore, and have to say something like "proudly assembled in the USA"...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
You're lucky. I've seen MANY MANY postings of people who've told some real horror stories about Harley dealerships who have had issues doing things as simple as factory upgrades to as painful as trying to fix lemons that have never ran right.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
I paid nowhere near that for a very low mileage 06 Sportster.
Well I wasn't looking for a bitch bike.
I was pricing a brand new Dyna Super Glide Custom.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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