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Title: Who here DOESN'T know the Federal Gas tax, approx . 18 cents per gallon EXPIRED on Sep 30?
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Published: Oct 10, 2011
Author: itistoolate
Post Date: 2011-10-10 11:21:10 by Itistoolate
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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-10   11:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1) (Edited)

It means you don't have to pay 18 cents on every gallon you buy. Neither does anyone else.

DUH

knowledgecenter.csg.org/k...x-set-expire-september-30

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-10-10   11:33:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Itistoolate (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-10   11:45:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Itistoolate (#2)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-10   11:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Eric Stratton (#4)

unfortunately you're pro right

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-10-10   11:49:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Prior to clicking I didn't know.......but now I feel duped knowing that I filled my tank yesterday and it was still $3.60 a gallon. I didn't feel duped until you brought this to my attention Itistoolate.. Derb nub it!

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-10   12:24:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Itistoolate (#5)

I did notice a nice drop several days ago, but thought it due to lower oil prices.

Thanks for the info.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-10-10   12:25:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: abraxas (#6)

We're down to the mid $3.20s in places here.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2011-10-10   12:26:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Lod (#8)

We're down to the mid $3.20s in places here.

And you have to rub it in on the $3.60 serfs. That's not nice Loddy. : )

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-10   12:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Itistoolate (#0)

I was wondering why it dropped from $3.93 a gallon to $3.73. Now I know why...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   12:49:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: FormerLurker (#10)

You noticed a twenty cent drop in one day?

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-10   12:52:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Itistoolate (#5)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-10   13:08:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Lod (#7)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-10   13:09:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Eric Stratton (#3)

Have they stopped collecting it at the retail level?

I have not seen the price go down at the pump at all.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-10-10   17:37:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: FormerLurker (#10) (Edited)

$3.93 a gallon to $3.73.

That just might explain it. But, since I do not drive right now, I do not keep track of the prices.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2011-10-10   17:39:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: BTP Holdings (#15)

you don't drive?

how old are you?

do a search for Federal gas tax

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-10-10   17:45:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eric Stratton (#12)

What do you mean "pro right?" ... pro GOP?

lol......probably right.

" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11

"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne

abraxas  posted on  2011-10-10   17:52:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Itistoolate (#0) (Edited)

i got to admit it's pretty comical that nobody wants to face the facts of peak oil.

too bad that, once you accept the fact of peak oil, you can make sense of everything.

on the other hand, given jesus' capabilities (fishes and loaves, water into wine, etc), maybe we shouldnt have bothered with all this PNAC horseshit.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   18:02:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lead.and.lag, Itistoolate (#18)

So-called "Peak Oil" is not a fact it is a PsyOp.

We have no shortage of oil.

We do have a shortage of honesty on energy production - with suppressed technology, capped oil fields, etc., ...

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   18:21:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#19)

AGREED

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-10-10   18:22:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#19) (Edited)

"Peak Oil" is not a fact it is a PsyOp.

oilcompanies are spending billions of extra dollars drilling 200 miles offshore when they could be drilling the abiotically refilling oilfields in texas.

sure

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   18:25:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lead.and.lag (#21)

oilcompanies are spending billions of extra dollars drilling 200 miles offshore when they could be drilling the abiotically refilling oilfields in texas.

sure

A. Advertising. Got to make the dog and pony show look real. The major oil companies are NOT in the OIL business they are in the Oil SHORTAGE business. Restricted production = higher prices and profit margins.

B. Who said they have to drill fields that are refilling? Although they ARE refilling. Are there even more dead dinosaurs than we thought?

But that's all right sssssitisen. Go back to sleep. Fuuuball is on tonight. Don' wanna miss fuuuuball do you? And don't forget Unca' wants you to get your "B vitamins" by drinking plenty of Spud.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   19:01:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#22) (Edited)

there are lots of reasons to deny peak oil.

it's just too bad that, once you factor peak oil into the current situation, everything makes sense.

you'd prefer to pile conspiracy on top of conspiracy, while i think that the PNAC conspiracy, documented, is quite enough.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   19:05:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lead.and.lag (#23)

it's just too bad that, once you factor peak oil into the current situation, everything makes sense.

Oh, it does absolutely.

If you are trying to control a large mass of people you need to have a handle on them. That handle can be either overt, through force, or covert through information control thus manipulating what people perceive to be reality. Documentarian James Burke pointed out some interesting stuff in his book and documentary "The Day The Universe Changed". One of the more interesting points was right on page one of his book: "What you see is determined by what you know." So, what a person "sees" and perceives as reality is to no small degree a result of what they know. It gives them a framework to understand the world around them. That is why for centuries everyone "knew" that the sun revolved around the earth.

The philospher Wittgenstein had some fun with that one, and this is anecdotal. Confronted by the question, "Weren't those ancients so silly and stupid to think the Sun revolved around the Earth rather than the Earth around the Sun?

To which Wittgenstein thoughtfully replied, "Yes, but I wonder how it would have looked if it did?"

The point being of course that to the observer on the ground it would have looked exactly the same.

So, if you control access to information, the types of information which people are allowed to know and are promoted, etc., you can shape public perception by presenting information which creates the desired conclusions and viewpoint. Basic PsyOps that.

So, if someone "knows" that pink oil is real then that is what they see and interpret out of the controlled news reports which themsleves in turn serve to reinforce the desired behavior and set of perceptions/interpretations of data.

Therefore it follows that if someone is fed something false then any conclusion based on false data will itself be false. If you know that 1+1=3 then you will always have the wrong answer, and never know it because you KNOW that 1+1=3 so your answer HAS to be right since it is based on what you believe to be a fact.

Personally, I prefer to get my information ad data from reliable sources rather than ABCNNBCBS-FAUX NOOZE.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   19:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent (#24)

too bad that the common sense of the situation will wipe out a bunch of Wittgenstein.

too bad that the primary deniers of peak oil are allies of israel.

too bad israel is concerned enough about peak oil to mount the 9/11 operation.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   19:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lead.and.lag (#25)

And the proof for your far-fetched speculations is?

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   19:36:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Original_Intent (#26)

crude oil and lease condensate production has been flat for the last five years.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   19:39:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent (#26) (Edited)

i got to say that, as an oregonian in my heart, i'm ashamed of you.

but we dont really know if you're an oregonian, and we have to accept the fact that there must been an abundance or loons in oregon. just like everywhere

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   19:42:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: lead.and.lag (#27)

No new refineries have been built in at least 30 years. Interesting isn't it that "Oilman Bush" blocked the permits that were applied for by independents to build new refineries? Interesting too in that the environmental groups that oppose new drilling and refineries are largely supported by old OIL money family foundations who stand to profit quite well by blocking new production and thus keeping prices up.

That is a very telling datum.

If you have a shortage of product in a "free market" which is resulting in monopolistic pricing why would you block the introduction of new production capacity?

Why would you cap off and keep out of production the massive find at Gull Island, Alaska? Oh, and it was recently proven that Venezuela's offshore fields measure in the TRILLIONS of barrels. What a shortage! Why we might run out sometime around 2340. That is before we consider the cold fusion technology being developed in Italy, or the rumors of suppressed energy production technology in the American black budget world.

Interesting what a few "obscure" (meaning never reported by "Pills" or the Talking Heads) datums will do for your perceptions of reality.

Remember The White Rose
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   19:53:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Original_Intent (#29) (Edited)

if the crude oil supply is gonna decline , why would oil companies spend billions of dollars building new refineries?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   19:56:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Original_Intent (#29) (Edited)

the critical thing, when it comes to denying peak oil, is israel's awareness of peak oil... that awareness would lead to israel's motive to stage the 9/11 operation.

so... if you're gonna protect israel, you'd deny peak oil

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   20:02:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Original_Intent, All (#29)

Obama Picks Gas Tax For First Round Of Fiscal Fight | Fox News

"31 Aug 2011 ... President Obama wants Congress to quickly pass an unconditioned extension of the federal gasoline tax, which is set to expire at the end of the ..."

www.foxnews.com/politics/...first-round-fiscal-fight/

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-10-10   20:07:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: abraxas (#17)

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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.

Eric Stratton  posted on  2011-10-10   20:32:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: FormerLurker (#10)

it went from $3.95 to $3.50 here.

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-10-10   20:40:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: abraxas (#11)

You noticed a twenty cent drop in one day?

No, but it went from 3.93 down to 3.75 in one day, then from 3.75 down to 3.73 in a day or two after that..


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:09:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: lead.and.lag (#23)

Do you really believe that petroleum comes from dinosaurs?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:11:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FormerLurker (#36) (Edited)

Do you really believe that petroleum comes from dinosaurs?

oh, for sure

FormerLurker, another confirmed loon

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   21:14:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Itistoolate (#34)

it went from $3.95 to $3.50 here.

We were up to about $4.05 for super, now it's down to $3.75. I can't use regular in my car so I never keep track of the price for regular gas.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:14:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: lead.and.lag (#37)

FormerLurkerm, another proven loon

Hey Mr. comedian, do you have anything intelligent to say, or are you just here to be an asshole?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   21:15:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#38) (Edited)

my prices were regular

watch the Fox video here: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/31/obama-picks-gas-tax-for-first-round-fiscal-fight/

Itistoolate  posted on  2011-10-10   21:16:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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