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#95. To: lead.and.lag (#92)

the problem is this: the only thing you got working for you is bullshit artists like alex jones.

Attack by association, whether or not I even associate or listen to said person.

meanwhile, in the real world, oil companies are using proven methods to find oil.

Control of ALL of the planet's energy sources is the goal.

there is no evidence that abiotic oil has been produced in commercial quantities.... in fact, there's no evidence of its existence outside laboratories.

There is ZERO evidence that petroleum can be created from sea sediment or plant life. There is MUCH evidence that it is a product of methane.

Years ago, they also thought the world was flat, and that the sun was a ball of fire which spun around the Earth. They had no understanding of nuclear fusion, and even now, the dynamics of solar burning is for the most part unknown.

meanwhile, you seem to be a sucker for every dismal goddamned fairytale that's come down the pike... chemtrials, UFOs, lord knows what.

I look into suppressed information, and whatever evidence I find that contradicts "conventional wisdom", I present to people who may wish to look into it themselves.

What YOU do on the other hand is attack people who have more courage than yourself, where you would be afraid to even touch such ideas, unless you were there to ridicule and scorn those who try to do what you would never have the courage to do yourself.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: lead.and.lag, christine, ALL (#94)

please explain to christine why you're an apologist for israel.

Please explain to christine and the rest of the forum why you lie, accuse me of things that are untrue, and generally act like an ass.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: FormerLurker (#95)

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: FormerLurker (#96)

please explain how israel benefits if americans are so befuddled by zionist media that they cant think their way out of a wet paper bag.

please explain how your use of jewish debate tactics, as described by hitler, contributes to the befuddlement of americans.

please explain why it's so critical that peak oil be denied, seeing as how it was the most immediate motive for the 9/11 false flag attack.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: lead.and.lag (#97)

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

Ever hear of the Middle East?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: lead.and.lag (#98)

Please explain why you work for the Mossad.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: FormerLurker (#99)

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: lead.and.lag (#101)

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

Refer to post 99 for the answer.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:50:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: FormerLurker (#102)

middle east oil does not come from sedimentary rock?

want to give us proof of that?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:52:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: lead.and.lag (#103)

middle east oil does not come from sedimentary rock?

Do you have proof that it does?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:53:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: lead.and.lag (#103)

middle east oil does not come from sedimentary rock?

want to give us proof of that?

Do you have proof that elves didn't just snap their fingers and make it all appear?

Come up with some proof that oil comes from sedimentary rock, even in the Middle East, and that fossils are the source of petroleum.

You can't prove that elves DIDN'T create the oil, but you COULD prove that oil comes from rock, IF it were true...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:56:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: FormerLurker (#104) (Edited)

Do you have proof that it does?

thousands of drillers have the proof.

billions of barrels of oil are the proof.

the important thing, here, is not ignorance.... it's understanding where you're coming from...

because if your main goal is to protect israel, you'll confirm hitler's description of jewish debate tactics til the end of time... the facts be damned.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:57:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: lead.and.lag (#103)

And oh yeah, maybe you've read something I haven't, but what makes you think the entire Middle East was once an ancient sea?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:57:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: lead.and.lag (#106)

thousands of drillers have the proof.

billions of barrels of oil are the proof.

Uh no, that is not proof. That there is oil there indicates there is oil there, nothing more, nothing less.

It does NOT prove HOW it got there. Try again.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:58:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: lead.and.lag (#106)

you'll confirm hitler's description of jewish debate tactics til the end of time... the facts be damned.

Seems like you have the technique nailed. Well not really, but you are TRYING the best you can it seems.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:59:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: FormerLurker (#107)

you're not ignorant

nope, you've got an agenda... first, protect israel

to accomplish that, you have to degrade americans' ability to think

it's a matter of sequence, isnt it?

fuck up americans' minds so they wont be able to see what caused 9/11.

duck soup.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:01:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: FormerLurker (#109) (Edited)

meanwhile, it'd be a good thing for your argument if you could provide evidence of oil deposits outside sedimentary basins.

why do you have to resort to jew debate tactics, as described by hitler, to avoid adressing that problem?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: lead.and.lag (#110)

If anyone has an agenda here, it's obvious that YOU do. I was at first trying to have a rational discussion concerning your erroneous idea that there is such a thing as "peak oil" to begin with, but YOU turned this into a "joo" thing.

It's obvious to me at least that you more than likely work for some government agency who is here to entrap people, or perhaps even for a foreign power such as Israel. It would be the perfect disguise for a Mossad operator to act like a "jew hater" and bash anyone who disproves his bullshit with accusations of being a "jew lover".

Yep, you are DEFINITELY a shill, it's just the matter of figuring out who exactly pays your salary.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   0:06:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: FormerLurker (#112)

if there's no such thing as peak oil, how come texas oil production peaked in 1972?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:08:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: lead.and.lag (#111)

You have NOT proven that there was ever an ancient sea in the Middle East. You have NOT proven that oil comes from rock. You have NOT proven that ancient organisms have somehow miraculously turned into oil. You have NOT provided any links which describe the rock to oil conversion.

You HAVE launched ad hominem attacks against me and others here. You HAVE failed to converse in a civil manner. You HAVE lied, and HAVE falsely accused, and HAVE generally acted like a retard.

Yet you expect to score points here somehow this eveving?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   0:09:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: FormerLurker (#114)

if there's no such thing as peak oil, how come american oil production peaked in 1970?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:11:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: lead.and.lag (#113)

if there's no such thing as peak oil, how come texas oil production peaked in 1972?

Lower the supply with increased demand, and the prices are bound to rise. Have you ever learned that in Jr. High, the law of supply and demand?

MAYBE those particular fields DID run low, who knows. I see no proof that they DID actually run low however.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   0:12:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: FormerLurker (#116) (Edited)

so the conspiracy to limit oil production has been operating since the early 1900s, when the east texas fields peaked and declined.

ever heard of spindletop?

please tell us how much spindletop produced at peak, in what year, and how much it produced a few years later.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:16:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: FormerLurker (#116) (Edited)

please tell us why, if spindletop is such a rich field, and is magically abiotically replenishing, oil companies are going 200 miles offshore for oil, instead of drilling new holes in spindletop.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:20:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: lead.and.lag (#117)

so the conspiracy to limit oil production has been operating since the early 1900s, when the east texas fields peaked and declined.

Sorry charlie, but the production in Texas rose each year up till the 70's.

It may not "replenish" as fast as it is drawn either, but that doesn't mean that oil comes from ancient critters.

It also does not prove GLOBAL peak oil has occured.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   0:26:26 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: lead.and.lag (#118)

Please explain how oil comes from ancient critters. Provide a link that describes the process.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   0:27:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: All (#118)

so, in summary, we are obliged to deny peak oil because peak oil was the main motive for the 9/11 false flag.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:27:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: FormerLurker (#120)

Please explain how oil comes from ancient critters. Provide a link that describes the process.

petroleum

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:29:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: lead.and.lag (#121)

in summary, we are obliged to deny peak oil because peak oil was the main motive for the 9/11 false flag.

You are hopping on the peak oil theory as if it is the ONLY reason 9/11 would have occured. That is a false premise, and for you to badger anyone who disagrees with you as you do, with "joo lover" type "arguments" to "support" your assertions shows you to be either psychotic, or a paid disruptor.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   0:36:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: FormerLurker (#120)

in further summary, israel must be secured from sea level rise before its american protection expires from oil shortages.

this is the last chance, before america collapses from peak oil, for israelis to achieve tikkun olam or "benevolent global hegemony".

i'm gradually coming around to the view that we should give the dismal motherfuckers enough rope to hang themselves, because it's the easiest thing to do.

not to mention the fact that's how it works with jewishness... the little guys get the shit kicked out of them, the big guys get away with the loot... and everybody seems completely satisfied with that arrangement.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:36:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: lead.and.lag (#122)

petroleum

Uh, I didn't ask for a wiki entry into what the conventional wisdom is. Show me where in that entry the chemical and physical process of oil being created from rock is described.

Of course you won't find it there. Now show me some evidence that DOES describe the process.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   0:39:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: lead.and.lag (#124)

israel must be secured from sea level rise before its american protection expires from oil shortages.

Maybe they're trying to steal your bed as well, you better double check every hour because you never know just how tricky those SOBs are...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   0:40:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: lead.and.lag (#121)

peak oil was the main motive for the 9/11 false flag.

No, war was the main motive for the 9/11 false flag attack. Specifically war between Christians and Muslims engineered for the Jews benefit, cause they hate Christians and Muslims but don't want to be seen directly attacking Christians just yet. Having two enemies fight each other is always a good strategic move as long as neither of them figure out the manipulation.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-10-11   0:41:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: FormerLurker (#125)

is your google broke, too?

your problem is, a description of the formation of petroleum would show that oil is formed by heat and compression, over millions of years, of critters.

you are supposedly unwilling to accept that, so you're unwilling to do your homework.

not my problem.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:42:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: RickyJ (#127) (Edited)

this post was aimed at the lurker, ricky... sorry for the mistake...

ignorance, in your case, is no excuse... the reason you refuse to accept the fact of peak oil is because peak oil was israel's main motive to stage the 9/11 attacks.

your main mission is to protect israel, so you have to deny the existence of peak oil, dfespite massive evidence that peak oil is a reality.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: lead.and.lag (#124)

israel must be secured from sea level rise before its american protection expires from oil shortages.

Wow, peak oil and global warming?

Peak oil can be debated, but global warming is nothing more than global BS.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2011-10-11   0:46:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: RickyJ (#130) (Edited)

well, peak oil and global warming are gonna become undeniable soon enough...

...which doesnt mean they'll not be denied... no, the powers will only ramp up the denial mechanisms that exist to defeat the logic of the situation.

good thing we've been so dumbed down that logic and facts no longer apply.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   0:50:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: RickyJ (#130) (Edited)

it seems pretty comical to me that the main media got on the global warming train before they realized the implications for israel... they're too chickenshit to back down, so all they can do is give "equal time" to global warming deniers...

the effect is great, though... the people remain so confused and divided that it all works out just fine.

everybody got on the same page pretty early in the peak oil problem, though, but after five or six years of flat production, more and more peak oil stuff is leaking out.

nevermind, though.... there are unimagined resources waiting in the wings, dedicated to shielding israel from the facts and logic of 9/11...

it will be a relief when they start shooting people who know about peak oil a global warming and are willing to connect the dots... then we'll know, for sure, that the final battle lines have been drawn.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   1:00:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: lead.and.lag (#128)

your problem is, a description of the formation of petroleum would show that oil is formed by heat and compression, over millions of years, of critters.

You would be hard pressed to find a scientific explanation for what you claim, one which describes the process empirically, rather than by assumption.

That oil can be made from a raw organic gas empirically proves that it CAN and DOES happen.

That you refuse to understand that is your problem, not mine.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   1:15:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#134. To: FormerLurker (#133)

your problem is that you are charged with denying phenomena that are geologically inevitable, and those phemomena account for events from 9/11 on, in which israel and israeli control of america are implicated.

to shield israel, you have to deny that those phenomena exist.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-11   1:20:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#135. To: lead.and.lag (#134)

You have to look at yourself in the mirror and talk in order to see your own self. Try it sometime.

"Geologically inevitable"? If anything, folk like you are making it that way. FINDING ways to make it inevitable, and making it so.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-11   2:46:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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