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Title: Who here DOESN'T know the Federal Gas tax, approx . 18 cents per gallon EXPIRED on Sep 30?
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Published: Oct 10, 2011
Author: itistoolate
Post Date: 2011-10-10 11:21:10 by Itistoolate
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#18. To: Itistoolate (#0) (Edited)

i got to admit it's pretty comical that nobody wants to face the facts of peak oil.

too bad that, once you accept the fact of peak oil, you can make sense of everything.

on the other hand, given jesus' capabilities (fishes and loaves, water into wine, etc), maybe we shouldnt have bothered with all this PNAC horseshit.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   18:02:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lead.and.lag, Itistoolate (#18)

So-called "Peak Oil" is not a fact it is a PsyOp.

We have no shortage of oil.

We do have a shortage of honesty on energy production - with suppressed technology, capped oil fields, etc., ...

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   18:21:40 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Original_Intent (#19) (Edited)

"Peak Oil" is not a fact it is a PsyOp.

oilcompanies are spending billions of extra dollars drilling 200 miles offshore when they could be drilling the abiotically refilling oilfields in texas.

sure

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   18:25:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lead.and.lag (#21)

oilcompanies are spending billions of extra dollars drilling 200 miles offshore when they could be drilling the abiotically refilling oilfields in texas.

sure

A. Advertising. Got to make the dog and pony show look real. The major oil companies are NOT in the OIL business they are in the Oil SHORTAGE business. Restricted production = higher prices and profit margins.

B. Who said they have to drill fields that are refilling? Although they ARE refilling. Are there even more dead dinosaurs than we thought?

But that's all right sssssitisen. Go back to sleep. Fuuuball is on tonight. Don' wanna miss fuuuuball do you? And don't forget Unca' wants you to get your "B vitamins" by drinking plenty of Spud.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   19:01:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Original_Intent (#22) (Edited)

there are lots of reasons to deny peak oil.

it's just too bad that, once you factor peak oil into the current situation, everything makes sense.

you'd prefer to pile conspiracy on top of conspiracy, while i think that the PNAC conspiracy, documented, is quite enough.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   19:05:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lead.and.lag (#23)

it's just too bad that, once you factor peak oil into the current situation, everything makes sense.

Oh, it does absolutely.

If you are trying to control a large mass of people you need to have a handle on them. That handle can be either overt, through force, or covert through information control thus manipulating what people perceive to be reality. Documentarian James Burke pointed out some interesting stuff in his book and documentary "The Day The Universe Changed". One of the more interesting points was right on page one of his book: "What you see is determined by what you know." So, what a person "sees" and perceives as reality is to no small degree a result of what they know. It gives them a framework to understand the world around them. That is why for centuries everyone "knew" that the sun revolved around the earth.

The philospher Wittgenstein had some fun with that one, and this is anecdotal. Confronted by the question, "Weren't those ancients so silly and stupid to think the Sun revolved around the Earth rather than the Earth around the Sun?

To which Wittgenstein thoughtfully replied, "Yes, but I wonder how it would have looked if it did?"

The point being of course that to the observer on the ground it would have looked exactly the same.

So, if you control access to information, the types of information which people are allowed to know and are promoted, etc., you can shape public perception by presenting information which creates the desired conclusions and viewpoint. Basic PsyOps that.

So, if someone "knows" that pink oil is real then that is what they see and interpret out of the controlled news reports which themsleves in turn serve to reinforce the desired behavior and set of perceptions/interpretations of data.

Therefore it follows that if someone is fed something false then any conclusion based on false data will itself be false. If you know that 1+1=3 then you will always have the wrong answer, and never know it because you KNOW that 1+1=3 so your answer HAS to be right since it is based on what you believe to be a fact.

Personally, I prefer to get my information ad data from reliable sources rather than ABCNNBCBS-FAUX NOOZE.

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   19:25:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Original_Intent (#24)

too bad that the common sense of the situation will wipe out a bunch of Wittgenstein.

too bad that the primary deniers of peak oil are allies of israel.

too bad israel is concerned enough about peak oil to mount the 9/11 operation.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   19:29:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: lead.and.lag (#25)

And the proof for your far-fetched speculations is?

Original_Intent  posted on  2011-10-10   19:36:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#27. To: Original_Intent (#26)

crude oil and lease condensate production has been flat for the last five years.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10 19:39:16 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent (#26) (Edited)

i got to say that, as an oregonian in my heart, i'm ashamed of you.

but we dont really know if you're an oregonian, and we have to accept the fact that there must been an abundance or loons in oregon. just like everywhere

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10 19:42:08 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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