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#61. To: lead.and.lag (#57)

And BTW, your premise that Israel carried out the 9/11 attacks due to "peak oil" doesn't make any sense whatsoever. In terms of the Israeli government, their motive would have been to expand Israel's borders and "get rid" of Saddam Hussein as a bonus. That, and they have a LOT more free weapons and billions of dollars from the US taxpayer as a result of any "war against Islam", which is what this "war on terror" is really about.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:24:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#62. To: FormerLurker (#61) (Edited)

israel must be secured, by grabbing the high ground in the west bank and subduing its neighbors, before its american protection expires from oil shortages.

makes all the sense in the world.

the only people that say they cant see the sense of it are protectors of israel.

why are you pprotecting israel?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:27:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#63. To: lead.and.lag (#60)

why you are defending israel by denying that israel had motive to stage 9/11

I am not doing any such thing idiot. Learn to read what is written, rather than what you fabricate in your own mind.

Now answer THESE questions or STFU;

  1. Why are you insisting that Israel would even be interested in "peak oil"?
  2. How do you think oil came to exist in the first place?
  3. Who are YOU protecting? So far you appear to be protecting those corrupt individuals within OUR own government who were involved in the attacks. Why is that?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:28:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#64. To: lead.and.lag (#62)

before its american protection expires from oil shortages.

That doesn't make any sense. We do not protect them by oil, we give them weapons and large amounts of money each year. They have nuclear weapons remember, so they don't even really NEED our protection.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:29:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#65. To: FormerLurker (#63)

if israel needs to secure itself before its american protector expires from high oil prices, then what?

9/11?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:30:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#66. To: lead.and.lag (#65)

Care to answer the questions I asked, or are you just going to evade them totally?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:31:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#67. To: FormerLurker (#64) (Edited)

how far are you prepared to continue this?

because the logic becomes more apparent with every post we make: you are protecting israel by denying peak oil, and i am demonstrating you're a limiited hangout protector of israel.

then there's massive previous evidence that you're a nitwit.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:34:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#68. To: lead.and.lag (#67) (Edited)

It's obvious that you have no argument, just accusations and ad hominems. You have no proof that peak oil is even a legitimate concern, and can't even tell me where you think oil comes from in the first place.

I've even given reasons WHY Israel might be involved with the attacks, yet you repeat the same mantra like a broken record, "why are you protecting israel by denying peak oil", even though there is no evidence whatsoever that peak oil is even taking place, or that it would somehow benefit Israel or cause it to attack America.

So when all else fails, refuse to give any rational answer (or nor answer at all) to very straightforward and legitimate questions, then call people names.

Yeah, you're a real piece of work.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:40:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#69. To: lead.and.lag (#67)

then there's massive previous evidence that you're a nitwit.

I think it's clear to most people here that you are an agent provocateur. So who pays your salary, eh?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#70. To: FormerLurker (#68) (Edited)

You have no proof that peak oil is even a legitimate concern,

please post crude oil and lease condensate production since 9/11. please post the logic behind exxon signing on with the PNAC neocons, and exxon's subsequent record profits.

please explain why, the more you post, the more you seem to be a limited hangout defender of israel.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:45:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#71. To: lead.and.lag (#70)

Oil companies profit when they hold back production and raise prices.

Now for the last time, before I bozo you, answer MY questions for YOU.

WHERE do YOU think oil comes from in the first place?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:47:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#72. To: FormerLurker (#71)

i think oil comes from the same place oil companies think it comes from.

please explain why oil companies cant find oil unless they're drilling in ancient seabeds, where jillions of tiny critters were crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked, and turned into oil.

too bad your defense of israel is running into gological facts.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:51:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#73. To: FormerLurker (#71)

the only thing you limited hangout people got going for you is persistence.

too bad your tactics were so accurately described by hitler, isnt it?

will persistent idiocy overcome geology?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   22:54:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#74. To: lead.and.lag (#72)

i think oil comes from the same place oil companies think it comes from.

So are you a mind reader? Do you know what they know? Where is it that THEY think it comes from, since you're so gifted?

please explain why oil companies cant find oil unless they're drilling in ancient seabeds, where jillions of tiny critters were crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked, and turned into oil.

Jillions, eh? How many zeroes is that? Are you trying to state that the Middle East used to be a giant sea? And did you know that most sea creatures are eaten by larger creatures, and are NOT "crushed, heated, sqeezed, cooked"?

Did you know that methane is an abundant organic chemical, and can be converted to petroleum? That natural processes deep within the earth can actually perform that conversion naturally?

too bad your defense of israel is running into gological facts.

Too bad your pet theory forces you to ignore science, and even to misspell the word geological. Or perhaps that's just you doing what you do naturally.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   22:59:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#75. To: lead.and.lag (#73) (Edited)

Hey pal, that I don't swallow your "peak oil" Kool-Aid simply indicates I'm not a moron who jumps at any idea tossed around, I want proof. Thus far you've done nothing but launch attacks against me and anyone else who doesn't just shut up and let you spew your invalid and unscientific assertions.

So now that you've failed to label me a "Israel defender", you're going to try the association to Hitler trick, right? Why are you so desperate to villify anyone who doesn't agree with you? Are you 12 years old or something?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#76. To: FormerLurker (#74)

oil companies spend billions of dollar looking for oil.

they've developed methods that work... and those methods are based on the fact aht oil is made over millions of years from small animals and plants.

meahwhile, you cant explain why you're defending israel.

why is that?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:05:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#77. To: lead.and.lag (#76)

That you chant the mantra that I defend Israel doesn't make it so. People who've read my posts over the years know that I am far from a "Israel defender", I speak out against their atrocities and misdeeds, unlike you.

They also know I am keen on scientific evidence and facts, also unlike you.

That oil companies constantly seek out oil fields doesn't mean it comes from ancient plants and organisms, it means they're looking for more outlets from within the Earth that dispense oil, in order to have even MORE of that which they can make TRILLIONS of dollars on over the years.

So now, have you even looked into the science concerning methane and oil?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:09:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#78. To: FormerLurker (#77)

"The more I argued with them, the better I came to know their dialectic.

"First they counted on the stupidity of their adversary, and then, when there was no other way out, they themselves simply played stupid.

"If all this didn't help, they pretended not to understand, or, if challenged, they changed the subject in a hurry, quoted platitudes which, if you accepted them, they immediately related to entirely different matters, and then, if again attacked, gave ground and pretended not to know exactly what you were talking about.

"Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again.

"But if you really struck one of these fellows so telling a blow that, observed by the audience, he couldn't help but agree, and if you believed that this had taken you at least one step forward, your amazement was great the next day. The Jew had not the slightest recollection of the day before, he rattled off his same old nonsense as though nothing at all had happened, and, if indignantly challenged, affected amazement; he couldn't remember a thing, except that he had proved the correctness of his assertions the previous day.

"Sometimes I stood there thunderstruck.

"I didn't know what to be more amazed at: the agility of their tongues or their virtuosity at lying."

MeinKampf

people are gonna start wondering why you're confirming hitler's description of jewish debate tactics.;

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:14:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#79. To: FormerLurker (#77)

i mean, you'd think you people would have a certain amount of pride.

but then, maybe there's no money in pride.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:17:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#80. To: lead.and.lag (#78)

"Whenever you tried to attack one of these apostles, your hand closed on a jelly-like slime which divided up and poured through your fingers, but in the next moment collected again.

MeinKampf

So using Hitler's writings to attack me now, eh?

What's next, a full blown KKK cross burning?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:18:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#81. To: lead.and.lag (#79)

i mean, you'd think you people would have a certain amount of pride.

but then, maybe there's no money in pride.

So now you are admitting that you have no shame and that you are doing this for a paycheck?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#82. To: FormerLurker (#80) (Edited)

So using Hitler's writings to attack me now, eh?

if the shoes fits, you gots to wear it.

*shrug*

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:19:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#83. To: lead.and.lag (#82)

if the shoes fits, you gots to wear it.

*shrug*

So what are you, a neonazi or a REAL nazi?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:22:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#84. To: FormerLurker (#81)

anyhow, you're a confirmed loony tune, everybody knows it, and the denial, by the logic of the situation, says you're defending israel.

not to mention your attempts to fuck over people's minds with your chemtrail/UFO/crop circle bullshit.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:23:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#85. To: All (#84)

smoking them out

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:24:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#86. To: lead.and.lag (#84)

You've proven yourself to be an agent provocateur. So which alphabet soup agency do you work for? Or are you perhaps a Mossad operative, eh?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:26:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#87. To: lead.and.lag (#85)

smoking them out

You've smoked yourself out bud.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:26:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#88. To: lead.and.lag (#85)

smoking them out

get real

christine  posted on  2011-10-10   23:27:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#89. To: lead.and.lag (#84) (Edited)

not to mention your attempts to fuck over people's minds with your chemtrail/UFO/crop circle bullshit.

So those things don't exist, eh? Keep telling that to yourself little man. I'm sure your rabbi will be proud of you.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:27:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#90. To: christine (#88)

This guy is either a well-behaving yukon, or a misbehaving BAC. One way or the other, he's a shill.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:29:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#91. To: FormerLurker (#89)

lead.and.lag=wadosy

christine  posted on  2011-10-10   23:29:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#92. To: FormerLurker (#87) (Edited)

the problem is this: the only thing you got working for you is bullshit artists like alex jones.

meanwhile, in the real world, oil companies are using proven methods to find oil.

there is no evidence that abiotic oil has been produced in commercial quantities.... in fact, there's no evidence of its existence outside laboratories.

meanwhile, you seem to be a sucker for every dismal goddamned fairytale that's come down the pike... chemtrials, UFOs, lord knows what.

alex jones, art bell and that noory asshole are proud of you... you've helped fuck up millions of american minds.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:31:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#93. To: christine (#91)

lead.and.lag=wadosy

Never really paid much attention to that poster in the past. Just brought up some historical postings, and yep, I say I have it nailed.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#94. To: FormerLurker (#93)

please explain to christine why you're an apologist for israel.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:34:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#95. To: lead.and.lag (#92)

the problem is this: the only thing you got working for you is bullshit artists like alex jones.

Attack by association, whether or not I even associate or listen to said person.

meanwhile, in the real world, oil companies are using proven methods to find oil.

Control of ALL of the planet's energy sources is the goal.

there is no evidence that abiotic oil has been produced in commercial quantities.... in fact, there's no evidence of its existence outside laboratories.

There is ZERO evidence that petroleum can be created from sea sediment or plant life. There is MUCH evidence that it is a product of methane.

Years ago, they also thought the world was flat, and that the sun was a ball of fire which spun around the Earth. They had no understanding of nuclear fusion, and even now, the dynamics of solar burning is for the most part unknown.

meanwhile, you seem to be a sucker for every dismal goddamned fairytale that's come down the pike... chemtrials, UFOs, lord knows what.

I look into suppressed information, and whatever evidence I find that contradicts "conventional wisdom", I present to people who may wish to look into it themselves.

What YOU do on the other hand is attack people who have more courage than yourself, where you would be afraid to even touch such ideas, unless you were there to ridicule and scorn those who try to do what you would never have the courage to do yourself.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:41:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#96. To: lead.and.lag, christine, ALL (#94)

please explain to christine why you're an apologist for israel.

Please explain to christine and the rest of the forum why you lie, accuse me of things that are untrue, and generally act like an ass.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:44:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#97. To: FormerLurker (#95)

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:44:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#98. To: FormerLurker (#96)

please explain how israel benefits if americans are so befuddled by zionist media that they cant think their way out of a wet paper bag.

please explain how your use of jewish debate tactics, as described by hitler, contributes to the befuddlement of americans.

please explain why it's so critical that peak oil be denied, seeing as how it was the most immediate motive for the 9/11 false flag attack.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:47:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#99. To: lead.and.lag (#97)

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

Ever hear of the Middle East?

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:47:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#100. To: lead.and.lag (#98)

Please explain why you work for the Mossad.

"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2011-10-10   23:48:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#101. To: FormerLurker (#99)

please post evidence of oil deposits outside ancient sea beds.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2011-10-10   23:49:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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