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Published: Nov 15, 2011
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Post Date: 2011-11-15 09:21:59 by James Deffenbach
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#1. To: James Deffenbach (#0)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-15 10:50:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: Eric Stratton (#1)
I think the visibility in one would be good--did you not see that big cockpit window? But they are toys for the rich. I checked and they START at 65 grand.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-11-15 11:03:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: James Deffenbach (#2)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-15 11:13:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: Eric Stratton (#3)
The cure for that is for everyone to get together before they launch and decide where they are going to be and when. Or make sure they pick out a "lane" to run in and pretty much stay there. At least that's what I think. And they sure do look like a LOT of fun.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-11-15 19:02:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: James Deffenbach (#4)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-15 19:34:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: Eric Stratton (#5)
Well yeah, there is that to consider. Guess the answer to that would be to choose your friends carefully, at least those you're trusting with your life.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-11-15 20:09:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: James Deffenbach (#6)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-15 20:56:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Eric Stratton (#7)
I think they are nice toys for rich people but for what just one of those cost, even the cheapest one, you could buy two new, fully equipped Ford Fusions or Hyundai Sonatas (for example) and still have plenty of money for gas. You could even buy two Infiniti G37's for that (at the starting price of 32,400).
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-11-15 21:07:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: James Deffenbach (#8)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-15 21:22:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: Eric Stratton (#9)
Had a little Chevy S-10 one time before they changed General Motors to Government Motors. Called it Little Red and as far as four wheels it was probably my favorite out of all we ever owned. I like pickups too.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-11-15 23:17:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: James Deffenbach (#10)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-15 23:51:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Eric Stratton, James Deffenbach (#9)
I'd rather buy a sport plane. Cheaper and probably safer.
As for these dolphin boats, I dunno. I'm sure they'd be fun at first but they are closed cockpit so it would get a bit stuffy inside after a few mins. There's probably some snorkling thing built in but still.... And since your strapped in.... I think I'd get bored with it somewhat before I'd get 65K worth of fun out of it. The lack of visibility if you dive at all is probably a party killer. Especially since every time you do it you wonder if you're about to plow into something.

Pinguinite posted on 2011-11-15 23:59:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Pinguinite (#12)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-16 0:09:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Pinguinite (#12)
"I'd rather buy a sport plane. Cheaper and probably safer."

I got to fly a tail dragger last weekend and discovered how scary a ground loop is. I was lucky though, there was no serious damage except to my pride and nerves. ;-)
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Ferret posted on 2011-11-16 0:12:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Ferret (#14)
I got to fly a tail dragger last weekend and discovered how scary a ground loop is.

oooooohhh.. I know what that is, but thankfully only on paper. What kind of plane? Except for a quick ride in a Piper Cub, I've only real dealt with tricycles.

Pinguinite posted on 2011-11-16 0:52:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: Pinguinite (#15)
It was an old Cessna 140 with metal skin. We used to own one back in Connecticut and I'm glad the co-owner who rented it to me to 'plink aroung the pea patch' with locally wasn't with me. ;-)
Next week I plan on spending time doing touch and goes with it to either knock the rust off my skill with that configuration. I won't if there is another cross wind going at that field though.
"Lots of people who hate God hate Israel. Take a look at 4um they are mostly nazi pieces of shit. Is that what you aspire to? " -- A K A Stone
Ferret posted on 2011-11-16 1:25:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Eric Stratton (#11) (Edited)
Here is a picture that looks almost exactly like Little Red--I don't normally say that I "love" inanimate objects but I did like that truck a lot.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-11-16 9:27:22 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: Pinguinite (#12)
As for these dolphin boats, I dunno. I'm sure they'd be fun at first but they are closed cockpit so it would get a bit stuffy inside after a few mins. There's probably some snorkling thing built in but still.... And since your strapped in.... I think I'd get bored with it somewhat before I'd get 65K worth of fun out of it. The lack of visibility if you dive at all is probably a party killer. Especially since every time you do it you wonder if you're about to plow into something.

There is a snorkel built in for the engine and it won't run deeper than about five feet. The part that looks like a lot of fun to me is the barrel roll you can do with it and then jumping out of the water like a whale, shark or dolphin. I don't think the underwater visibility would be a big problem if you were in relatively clear water.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
The only difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits. Albert Einstein
"...if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2011-11-16 9:30:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: James Deffenbach (#17)
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The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.
- Johann Wolfgang von Goethe, 1749-1832
Eric Stratton posted on 2011-11-16 10:10:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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