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Title: Why Are Such A High Proportion of Gifted People Introverted?
Source: Kingdom of Introversion
URL Source: http://kingdomofintroversion.com/20 ... -of-gifted-people-introverted/
Published: Feb 18, 2012
Author: Unknown
Post Date: 2012-02-18 14:43:32 by Turtle
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Views: 239
Comments: 18

From a number of sites, I have learned that while introverts are very much in the minority of the population, we make up a strong majority of the gifted population.

This information comes as no surprise.

What kind of person is busy studying for fun in their spare time?

What kind of person has a personality that lends itself to deep thought?

What kind of person thinks in terms of the big picture?

Much of an extrovert’s superiority in social environments comes from thinking less. If an introvert is standing in a long line. They think: There’s thousands of people here. If everyone chose to advance themselves by any means, there would be chaos and everyone loses. I’ll continue standing here.

An extrovert thinks: I’m tired of standing in line. I will do whatever necessary to make things better for me. The extrovert wins because there is no time spent reflecting. The extrovert is lean and mean, geared for survival and unburdened by other concerns.

Introverts are disadvantaged in part because of their penchant for critical reasoning. While an introvert is busy thinking in terms of game theory, the extrovert has already gone out and played the game.

It takes an introvert to be emotionally detached from our own being, our own immediate benefit, and consider our existence in terms of the universe around us, on a larger scale, in the long term. While stopping to think in the abstract compromises our ability to compete in the big social game, only people who can think outside of the game can ever hope to change the rules or operate outside of them.

Thus, the aggressive extrovert might succeed in moving up a few hundred places in line, working themselves half to death in the process. The introvert, though far behind, has the potential to find a way to avoid the line entirely while still achieving their aims. They have the presence of mind to actually ask, “Will my aims be achieved at the end of the line? If so will it be worth it? If worth it, is there an easier way? If not worth it, why am I still in this line?”

The abstract and deep reasoning that socialites associate with rocket scientists is the default pattern of thought for an introvert. Delving into larger problems and searching for the simplest solution comes as second nature. Thus, it is a matter of course that gifted persons are largely introverts.


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I think the ratio is about three-fourths extroverts and one-quarter introverts. It'd be a much better world if it was the other way around.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

Why Are Such A High Proportion of Gifted People Introverted?

Because they don't fit in and as a result get hammered. Since false modesty would avoid the point I'll be blunt and say that I have a an IQ significantly above average. That is not an attempt to brag it is just a fact. Through 4 years of High School I was the butt of just about every nasty joke you could think of and subjected to frequent ridicule. Being heavy (although I was still a good Lineman), pimply, and having a high IQ does not bode well for a pleasant experience where, as the Japanese put it, "the nail that stands out gets hammered". I was hammered so hard and so often that I was a basket case damn near after High School. It was about the 4 most miserable years of my life, and I came out of it very introverted. I eventually broke out of the shell, and also lost a lot of weight but that's another story, but a lot of people don't. Having a high IQ, unless there is a support structure, isolates a person as there seems to be a human inclination, among some, to degrade and pull down people who are above the norm of the herd. I experienced it again in the service but by then was better prepared to handle it. I had the last laugh. So, high IQ people are often under psychic assault from people who resent their having a high IQ. Sorry, but I didn't do anything other than be born with it. I didn't have any say-so in the matter.

The other problem is communication and perception. Another fact is that higher IQ people are simply more aware and analyze faster (not necessarily deeper as I have met some very shallow high IQ's, but they do assimilate information and perceptions much more quickly). This makes conversation with someone slower a bit cumbersome and imposes restrictions that become annoying - you simply cannot operate at full speed and have others keep up with you. So, the reality factor disappears and communication consists of Affinity, Reality, and Communication. They work together - increase one and they all go up. Decrease one and it pulls the others down. So, in trying to communicate with others the high IQ, without knowing this simple formula, often violates other's reality simply by going over their head with unintentional subtlety which they see as obvious. So, communication breaks down somewhat and after a while some people withdraw. Me, I just look for like minded, and abled, people - such as those who hang out on 4um.

I also learned over the years how not to set off the reaction, which seems to be almost automatic in some people, to attack the more intellectually able. I also lost the polysyllables in day to day interaction. You either learn the art of social camouflage or you remain a constant target. That is why organizations such as Mensa exist - to provide a social atmosphere where you can let your hair down. Unfortunately Mensa is heavily penetrated by the government because they also fear all of those high IQ's. The CIA tracks them when they are identified.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-18   15:28:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Original_Intent (#1)

"...Unfortunately Mensa is heavily penetrated by the government because they also fear all of those high IQ's. The CIA tracks them when they are identified."

By God, you nailed this one GOOD! The CIA and elite bloodlines do not want to compete with common folk with high IQ's which is why many of those who have high IQ's are unaware of this but are told throughout their livelihood they are very stupid. Now we understand why. It's the way of keeping the lower classes down and stupid and make way for 5% of the elite to do our thinking for us. It's why I have no desire to join Mensa. I believe that somebody who has a higher intelligence is naturally gifted and nobody can take that away. It is something given to them by God. Of course, those in the intelligence highly desire those with higher IQ's but bloodlines play a major role. Somebody had suggested I try joining up with intelligence because of my strong psychic ability. I told them I had absolutely no desire because I know what our intelligence do with these gifted people. They use them as spies and pit us against nations to start wars. My gifts are mine from God and I only serve Him.

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-18   16:07:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: purplerose (#2)

My gifts are mine from God and I only serve Him.

Good for you. Always strive toward the light - doing as best as one can for others. I have found that doing right, helping others, is its own reward.

As for the spooks - I'm glad I never got into that. They probably don't like me anyway because I figured out a lot of it on my own. Although they kind of gave themselves away too. My mom was very high IQ and after I tested high they started tapping our phone, and my mother was able to confirm that. She was not able to find out who was doing it or why but she had a friend who's hubby was a Lt. in the local PD and he checked on it and was told "you don't need to know about it and don't ask about it again". We were under watch but we didn't know why. It was only years later that I put the pieces of the puzzle together.

Not only are the spooks a very dirty crowd a lot of what I've been able to piece together, were I under their thumb, is probably classified way above my level and I'd never be allowed to speak of it if I had learned it through official channels. That, by the way, is one of the reasons the elites do not like high IQ's among the "lower orders". We figure things out on our own and then communicate it to others. We're also not as susceptible to their mass social control and perception management programs because we can see through it - that the logic is false and thus the message false.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-18   16:24:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle (#0)

It could be because they have very little in common with non-gifted people. Whatever the heck gifted is suppose to mean, I assume they are using that term to represent high intelligence.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-02-19   1:11:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Original_Intent (#1)

The CIA tracks them when they are identified.

So it is best to play dumb. Some people are really good at that. ;)

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-02-19   1:14:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: purplerose (#2)

I believe that somebody who has a higher intelligence is naturally gifted and nobody can take that away.

I don't believe it is all natural. Intelligence levels are not static, they can rise and fall.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-02-19   1:17:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Original_Intent (#3)

"As for the spooks - I'm glad I never got into that. They probably don't like me anyway because I figured out a lot of it on my own."

I get my intelligence and common sense from my dad. He only had an eighth grade education but he was very intelligent. He dropped out of school to help financially support his mom and brothers and sisters when he was just 13. He actually ran his own grocery store too in his later years. Never went to law school or college either but he was very sharp! He also bought and sold company stock. No formal education at all.

As for the spooks, I never trusted them. I have several acquaintances that I've known for over 21 years that work in government intelligence. I have been in communication with one of them as of recently. They used to work with my late buddy in space communications. They both used to have lunch at the Olive Garden and loved the free bread sticks. He is into Signal intelligence and speaks and writes Japanese and Chinese. I just got a post card from him just recently. We're pretty good friends. He's 24 years older than myself but I enjoy talking with him. His late buddy and mine used to go practice shooting together up in the Los Angeles National Forest. I miss those times.

But yeah, I hear ya on those spooks. Keep your guard up.

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-19   1:17:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: RickyJ (#4)

Yes, higher intelligence is knowledge that you have no formal education of but have inate understanding and ability to perform. Some of us have it and some do not.

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-19   1:20:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: RickyJ (#5)

The CIA tracks them when they are identified.

So it is best to play dumb. Some people are really good at that. ;)

Some seem to have a natural talent for it. Take a look at FreepTardia. :-)

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-19   1:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: purplerose (#8)

I alwsys say "Thank you Holy Ghost!".

Cornhuskerkid  posted on  2012-02-19   1:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: purplerose, RickyJ (#8) (Edited)

Yes, higher intelligence is knowledge that you have no formal education of but have inate understanding and ability to perform. Some of us have it and some do not.

Well, the simplest and most straightforward definition of intelligence is the ability to recognize differences and similarities. In other words the ability to recognize that some things are different and then that other things share common characteristics.

And I agree that intelligence is not a static and can go up or down depending upon a persons education, but different people do, I believe, have different levels of potential.

However, testing is an interesting factor in that the test itself can have built in biases whether intentional or not. Take for example my "country boy" father. When he joined the USMC during WWII according to their tests he was an imbecile with an IQ of 36 - this is a man who went on to become a master welder, flight instructor, and shot in the final round of the National Rifle Championships. Turns out the test, because of the language and examples used, was biased toward kids who had been raised in a city, and that is also where the myth of the "dumb" country boy comes from.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-19   1:36:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Original_Intent (#11)

So, you believe these IQ test are rigged? I suspect they are because I've been wondering as to whether the IQ raises as you develop knowledge of life experiences. Something to think about.

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-19   2:49:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: purplerose (#12)

So, you believe these IQ test are rigged?

Not really intentionally but the test writer no matter how well intended has their own set of biases and assumptions. Those, to some extent, become part of the test. It is like the example I gave of the test, which was biased toward language common in large cities, but uncommon in the country, as well as examples or settings for questions that were phrased in such a manner as to be inscrutable to someone not raised in the city. All IQ tests that rely upon written language have a vocabulary bias. That is the test writer writes the test with a given vocabulary set and if the test taker does not have some of the words defined then they become blank concepts and although the test taker may be bright enough to answer the question they do not understand it because it is written in language that the do no comprehend.

Another way of explaining the life experience development is as a result of increased vocabulary. As we grow and continue to learn our vocabulary expands and as a result more questions are more fully understood.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-02-19   3:26:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Original_Intent (#1)

Having a high IQ, unless there is a support structure, isolates a person as there seems to be a human inclination, among some, to degrade and pull down people who are above the norm of the herd. I experienced it again in the service but by then was better prepared to handle it

Looking back on my military experience and considering the intellect of others in the same situation I believe the highest I.Q.s belonged to those that feigned insanity and were released !

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

Mahatma Gandhi

noone222  posted on  2012-02-19   4:37:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: noone222 (#14)

And that's another great point too. Great observation there!

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-19   13:36:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Original_Intent, purplerose (#1) (Edited)

My experience has been that introverts are smarter than extroverts, more imaginative, more creative, more curious and more literary.

"You shall have fun, no matter what you do." -- Turtle

Turtle  posted on  2012-02-19   14:32:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Turtle, Original Intent (#16) (Edited)

That may be partly true. What I've learned is that the less you talk the more you learn by observation. You don't learn much by running your mouth like what I've observed some people do. You just miss the big picture is all.

Somebody, I think it was Original Intent, mentioned about the CIA infiltrating IQ's assessments and Mensa. I stumbled upon this site today and although it is a little off topic, I'm sure many of you can relate to it. I happened to attend a Downtown Los Angeles at the City Hall to meet and discuss the concerns on the major drug problem back on March 7, 1997, and while there met Congressman Maxine Waters, Bill King and host of other speakers, including radio personality Casey Kasem. The issue was on CIA drug running into L.A. which is still spot on. eddieleaks.org/ron-paul-the-cia-runs-everything/. Apparently, the CIA have their hands on everything. Including the press!

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-19   15:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: purplerose (#15)

Thanks for that !

"You assist an evil system most effectively by obeying its orders and decrees. An evil system never deserves such allegiance. Allegiance to it means partaking of the evil. A good person will resist an evil system with his or her whole soul."

Mahatma Gandhi

noone222  posted on  2012-02-20   3:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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