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Title: I Encounter Some Vampires!
Source: UncleBob's Treehouse
URL Source: http://uncabob.blogspot.com/2012/02/i-encounter-some-vampires.html
Published: Feb 23, 2012
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2012-02-23 13:17:27 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 417
Comments: 38

While there does exist the occasional psycho lunatic who really does drink people’s blood, these people are so rare it’d take several lifetimes to meet one, unless you go out of your way by becoming an FBI profiler.

What are much more common are what I’ve heard described as “emotional vampires,” and I’ve met several of these. They’re known as Personality or Character Disorders, and fall under various headings such as Antisocial, Borderline, Narcissistic and Histrionic Personality Disorder.

They all have certain traits in common. The main one is: it’s always someone else’s fault. It’s never their fault. This trait has been noticed for thousands of years, which is why in the story of the Garden of Eden Adam says, “The woman made me do it,” and Eve says, “The serpent made me do it.” It wasn’t their fault. It was someone else’s.

Because it’s always someone else’s fault, they always portray themselves as victims, even if they don’t realize it. In fact, they can be quite good at convincing people they ARE victims. Because of this, if you first meet someone and they try to pluck at your heartstrings with stories of the awful things done to them, immediately put your guard up.

Think about it this way: what kind of person would immediately tell you such intimate details of their life? And if they do it to you, don’t you think they do it to everyone?

They lie. Oftentimes they don’t even know they’re lying, because to successfully lie to someone else you first have to successfully lie to yourself.

They can be quite charming and manipulative, to the point you don’t even know you’re being manipulated. If they’re telling you stories about the awful things that happened to them, the first impulse of many men is to protect them and fix them.

Ha ha! Suckers! You’re being manipulated! They don’t want to be fixed! They want attention and to suck your innards dry, then cast away the empty husk that used to be your life!

They can make you feel special. You’re not. You’re interchangeable with the rest of the suckers. Again I’m going to repeat: if they’re telling you intimate details of their lives, why wouldn’t they be telling them to everyone?

They are deficient in gratitude, not to mention guilt, not to mention empathy. Since to them it’s someone else’s fault, why should they feel guilty or grateful or empathic? That’s why they never say, “Thank you.”

The worst emotional vampire (she appeared to be Borderline/Histrionic) I ran across some years ago told me, in the first hour I talked to her:

“Men are responsible for all the problems in the world.”

“Some of my relatives tried to molest me when I was in my teens.”

“None of my relationships work out because all the men have baggage from past relationships.”

“None of them will accept my career.”

The best one of all was…”This is about me, not you!”

Nothing was her fault. It was always men’s fault. And if it’s someone else’s fault, then it’s okay to emotionally abuse them. And sooner or later (and usually it’s sooner) they start to emotionally abuse people. Sometimes it becomes physical abuse.

If you meet someone who immediately becomes intimate (by telling you intimate details of his or her life), who immediately treats you as if you are special, who makes you want to immediately protect or fix them, and blames their problems on other people, STAY AWAY!

I’m going to repeat this, too: for many men their first impulse is to fix, protect and save a woman like this. You can’t do any of those things for her. She’s not so easy as a flat tire.

Some people unfortunately fall in love with these people, ignoring the warning signs – which are always bad feelings about them; anxiety, tenseness, and guilt (wondering if YOU have the problem and not them). The reason you’re having those bad feelings is because your soul is being sucked out!

These people are relatively common and wreak in the lives of every person they come into contact with.

This is a free warning, courtesy of UncleBob!


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#5. To: Turtle (#0) (Edited)

Is Uncle Bob a doctor? Cause if the author of that article is one, I really pity his patients with an attitude like his. He seems to have a very cavalier attitude that these people really aren't ill and regards such patients as nothing but walking paychecks and doesn't care about their emotional health. Many of these people with problems have nobody to address their issues with and so they choose to confide with someone they can trust. Otherwise, they become suicidal. I actually know a teacher in NYC who teaches elementary children and regards them as brats. If she had it her way, she'd use a tazer on them. Like this Uncle Bob character, this teacher doesn't care about anybody except her damn paycheck. Were she to ever use the tazer on my kids, (if I had them), and I found out about it, I'd kick her damn ass!

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-23   15:23:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: purplerose (#5)

Is Uncle Bob a doctor? Cause if the author of that article is one, I really pity his patients with an attitude like his.

I can see that you have never gone against one of these psychic vampires.

They will ruin you, by preying/feeding on your reactions and draining you of energy, and move on to the next victim; never missing a beat.

I'll even name one: Pam Schuffert. Google her. I wasted a lot of time and a hell of a lot of money on her and her drama.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-23   15:44:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: PSUSA2 (#6)

I can see that you have never gone against one of these psychic vampires.

Actually I have. Working in the entertainment business, I have been exposed to many of them who were victims of child abuse, parents pimping them to the government for porn, and sex trafficking. And many of them like Pam, are victims of mind control ultra.

So there, not only have I run into them, I've worked with them. Many of these so called "psychic-vampires" as you and Uncle Bob, refer to them as, have been so badly damaged that they trust nobody. In order to understand those like Pam, you have to delve into the study of satanism, where it originated from and its purpose leading to mind control. May God help and guide these people to help them get the professional help they really do need. They don't want your money or your blood. They want somebody to listen to them and not judge them.

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-23   16:17:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: purplerose (#7) (Edited)

In order to understand those like Pam, you have to delve into the study of satanism, where it originated from and its purpose leading to mind control.

Yeah, right, Blame Satan. Everyone does it. Want to talk mind control? We can do that if you want, and isn't satanism that's behind it.

Actually I have. Working in the entertainment business, I have been exposed to many of them who were victims of child abuse, parents pimping them to the government for porn, and sex trafficking. And many of them like Pam, are victims of mind control ultra.

Proof? Or did they make these allegations to suck you into their grasp?

They LIE thru their teeth! They will lie when the truth will save them.

If anyone "sits and listens to them", then they are in for a world of hurt. "Judging" them will keep them at a safe distance, where they belong. They do want "your money and your blood", blood being your life force. THey will drain you dry of both. They are experts at manipulation.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-23   18:10:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: PSUSA2 (#8)

Proof? Or did they make these allegations to suck you into their grasp?

No, they were in the porn business and had been since they were five. I will not mention the magazine they were into but I was 20 back then in 1987 when I worked with them and they were five years older than myself.

Sorry, but I have really worked with people like this. In L.A., I worked with a mother who was pimping out her 20 some daughter into the escort business. The daughter was an aspiring model. The mother was in the film and music business.

It seems to me that you have no empathy for these people at all. Unless you have studied MPD and DID, you do not know what you are talking about. MPD, DID, and satanism are very real in the music and entertainment industry.

I remember discussing the issue of satanism on another thread. So I will leave you a line to ponder as well.

How can you understand God if you do not understand His adversary? If you do not acknowledge His adversary, you will not understand God. If you deny God and the existence of His adversary, then of course none of what I mention here will make sense to you.

purplerose  posted on  2012-02-24   1:43:36 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: purplerose (#9)

In L.A., I worked with a mother who was pimping out her 20 some daughter into the escort business. The daughter was an aspiring model. The mother was in the film and music business.

Was the 20 y/o doing it because she wanted to? Or was some kind of force used?

What good does empathy do? What good is it when dealing with these people? They will only use this empathy against you to get what they want. Refusing to give them what they want is simple self-preservation.

How can you understand God if you do not understand His adversary? If you do not acknowledge His adversary, you will not understand God. If you deny God and the existence of His adversary, then of course none of what I mention here will make sense to you.

I understand 'god' just fine. I've actually read the bible, and I've studied the history, and have seen what these 3 religions have turned this world into. It is because of that understanding of that 'god' that I oppose it, and identify with the adversary.

By doing these things, by trying to be a "good christian" by knowing as much about it as I can, I became a Satanist. Ironic, huh? I didn't set out to become a satanist, but that was the natural end result. I knew too much to ever be a sleeping idiotic christian ever again. I can't go back because I know too much about it.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-24   7:46:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: PSUSA2 (#10)

What good does empathy do? What good is it when dealing with these people? They will only use this empathy against you to get what they want. Refusing to give them what they want is simple self-preservation.

Empathy allows you to broaden your perspective beyond your self. Empathy allows people to assist another by allowing for compassion relating to how others are different from ourselves. Empathy cannot be used against a person because if you are truly empathetic it is not YOUR feelings and problems that are the focal point but the feelings and problems of OTHERS. And you identify with these feelings and problems but you do not own them. If you are concerned about "self preservation" then you are not understanding empathy as the capacity to identify with another and does not necessitate preservation of self unless self is actually the greater concern and not the other person.

abraxas  posted on  2012-02-24   12:46:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: abraxas (#19)

If you are concerned about "self preservation" then you are not understanding empathy as the capacity to identify with another and does not necessitate preservation of self unless self is actually the greater concern and not the other person.

It depends on the motive(s). When you are dealing with people like in the OP, its a whole new ballgame. I said that if they are to be helped, the helper better know WTF he or she is doing. If the helper just wings it, that helper will crash and burn.

I can't think of one good reason to "identify with another" if that other has the desire and the ability to steal from me. Again, they are master manipulators. Show them empathy, or sympathy, or any other kind of pathy, and you give them an easy opening to exploit. ANd exploit it they shall.

This does not apply to other more normal and harmless people. I can argue all day with them and still empathize with them. My views have been changed by them, on occasion.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-24   13:31:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: PSUSA2 (#23)

It depends on the motive(s).

Show them empathy, or sympathy, or any other kind of pathy, and you give them an easy opening to exploit.

The motive of empathy sees that the person is a manipulator honestly and openly. Empathy isn't weakness or denial of truth but rather acceptance of truth. You identify with the other to understand them and if you understand them then you cannot logically be taken advantage of them for having identified with them.

You seem to be stating that empathy equates to exploitation but I view it as a means to combat exploitation because there is no denial of behaviors but rather a direct acknowledgment and acceptance. It's hard to game a person who sees the game and directly acknowledges it.

abraxas  posted on  2012-02-24   13:48:37 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: abraxas, purplerose (#24) (Edited)

You seem to be stating that empathy equates to exploitation

No, but it can give them the ammo to use against you. Anything that gets their foot in the door.

I view it as a means to combat exploitation because there is no denial of behaviors but rather a direct acknowledgment and acceptance. It's hard to game a person who sees the game and directly acknowledges it.

To me that makes sense. You need a strong defense when these people are in the area.

You mention "game". That is also a PUA term. All it is used for is to get women in the sack. There is nothing genuine about it because it is all a contrived act. But it does work. ETA: Women do the same kinds of things.

Just thought I'd throw that in. There is a lot of manipulation of all kinds going on out there.

Assuming that you are qualified to assist them, it is true the helper (you) had better know what you are doing.

What makes a person qualified?

If a person is going to do all that research, then why not get a degree in psychology?

Anyone that does their research using the internet, and listening to people when it is not a face to face meeting, sounds counterproductive. They can lie and you wouldn't even suspect it, because it's only words on a screen.

You posted a couple of vids and made some interesting allegations about them. Would a professional do anything like that? No.

You may trust a ex-CIA agent, but I sure don't. They are not exactly trustworthy types, imo. In fact, to me, it all sounds like a big distraction.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-24   14:46:41 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: PSUSA2, purplerose (#26)

You mention "game". That is also a PUA term. All it is used for is to get women in the sack. There is nothing genuine about it because it is all a contrived act. But it does work. ETA: Women do the same kinds of things.

That Game stuff is BS. Many guys will say they're an Alpha. Never met one who didn't destroy his life.

It's all about manipulating people, which is the main sign of an Emotional Vampire.

Turtle  posted on  2012-02-24   23:57:59 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Turtle (#27)

Many guys will say they're an Alpha

If you have to say it, you aren't one. I won't say it and I am not claiming to be an "alpha" by refusing to say it.

It's as silly as saying "I am a masculine man". Who would ever say such a stupid thing?

I think they confuse their game playing with actually learning what makes women tick. There is nothing wrong in learning about women. Those that don't learn are in for a bumpy ride! But the PUAs take it to the extreme.

They claim not to put women on pedestals, but by doing what they do with all the work and study it entails, they put women on pedestals. Ironic.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-02-25   7:41:05 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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