Freedom4um

Status: Not Logged In; Sign In

All is Vanity
See other All is Vanity Articles

Title: Cynicom was right, Ron Paul is a royal turd
Source: [None]
URL Source: [None]
Published: May 14, 2012
Author: Moi
Post Date: 2012-05-14 15:43:49 by Jethro Tull
Keywords: None
Views: 2729
Comments: 122

As per Drudge, RP just quit the race. I was taken yet again.

Cyni, this is directed to you. You nailed it from the get go, and I got suckered.

I bow to you and accept my heaping portion of crow served anyway you care to deliver it to me.

Post Comment   Private Reply   Ignore Thread  


TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest

#1. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

I was taken yet again.

Don't feel too bad, Tom. Lucy ALWAYS jerks the football away.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-05-14   15:49:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Ada, Jethro Tull, Christine, Phant2000, Esso, randge, assorted rubes (#0)

As per Drudge, RP just quit the race.

I take no comfort in that Jethro.

Now all that is left is to see what and when the "deal" was made.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-14   15:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom (#0) (Edited)

As per Drudge, RP just quit the race.

Wishful thinking on the part of Drudge and the LA Times...

ronpaulflix.com/2012/05/r...nded-his-campaign-may-14-2012/


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-05-14   16:05:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: FormerLurker, Esso, JT, Cyni, 4 (#3)

here's today's letter for discussion -

As I reflect on our 2012 Presidential campaign, I am humbled by the supporters who have worked so hard and sacrificed so much. And I am so proud of what we have accomplished. We will not stop until we have restored what once made America the greatest country in human history.

This campaign fought hard and won electoral success that the talking heads and pundits never thought possible. But, this campaign is also about more than just the 2012 election. It has been part of a quest I began 40 years ago and that so many have joined. It is about the campaign for Liberty, which has taken a tremendous leap forward in this election and will continue to grow stronger in the future until we finally win.

Our campaign will continue to work in the state convention process. We will continue to take leadership positions, win delegates, and carry a strong message to the Republican National Convention that Liberty is the way of the future.

Moving forward, however, we will no longer spend resources campaigning in primaries in states that have not yet voted. Doing so with any hope of success would take many tens of millions of dollars we simply do not have. I encourage all supporters of Liberty to make sure you get to the polls and make your voices heard, particularly in the local, state, and Congressional elections, where so many defenders of Freedom are fighting and need your support.

I hope all supporters of Liberty will remain deeply involved - become delegates, win office, and take leadership positions. I will be right there with you. In the coming days, my campaign leadership will lay out to you our delegate strategy and what you can do to help, so please stay tuned.

For Liberty,

Ron Paul

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-05-14   16:11:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Cynicom (#2)

Damn.

Just damn.

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-05-14   16:13:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Lod (#4)

Trotski memo number two.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-14   16:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

His decision not to compete for new votes in other states leaves Mr. Romney as the only candidate still actively fighting for voters’ support in the 11 states still to vote. That list includes the biggest prizes on the board — Texas and California.

An old lonely slave comes back from the grave
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-14   16:16:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Lod (#4)

So he's not withdrawing from the race or conceeding to Romney, he's just not going to spend any more money in primary states.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-05-14   16:16:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: randge (#5)

The Father, son relationship is very strong.

There was no way Ron would jeopardize the future of Rand.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-14   16:17:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Cynicom (#6)

Trotski memo number two.

I'm peeking into your inner sanctum again. That was my exact first thought.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

Esso  posted on  2012-05-14   16:18:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Esso (#10)

That was my exact first thought.

When the Trotski memo came out, many REFUSED to accept Ron at his word, he was a republican for life.

Well he has proven it again, still many desperately cling to a false hope.

We must accept the fact, politics is a dirty business and we the rubes pay the bill.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-14   16:21:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

He hasn't quit the race. He's no longer campaigning in states that have not voted (which would mean spending money he doesn't have to spend). He's still looking to gain delegates, and those that support him still support him.

If he doesn't have the money, then what should he do?

Pinguinite  posted on  2012-05-14   16:22:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom, Ada, Jethro Tull, christine, Phant2000, Esso, randge, assorted rubes (#2)

Make of this what you will.

Ron Paul 'Goes Galt': Quits Presidential Race but Hopes to Turn Tide

Like John Galt, the fictional hero of Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged, Republican presidential contender Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX) has quit the mainstream of American political life--only to plot a return as a revolutionary hero for the cause of liberty. Paul has announced that he is suspending his campaign, but will keep trying to win delegates in state contests that will allow him maximum leverage at this summer's Republican National Convention. In an email to supporters, Paul wrote:

This campaign fought hard and won electoral success that the talking heads and pundits never thought possible. But, this campaign is also about more than just the 2012 election. It has been part of a quest I began 40 years ago and that so many have joined. It is about the campaign for Liberty, which has taken a tremendous leap forward in this election and will continue to grow stronger in the future until we finally win.

Our campaign will continue to work in the state convention process. We will continue to take leadership positions, win delegates, and carry a strong message to the Republican National Convention that Liberty is the way of the future.

Moving forward, however, we will no longer spend resources campaigning in primaries in states that have not yet voted. Doing so with any hope of success would take many tens of millions of dollars we simply do not have. I encourage all supporters of Liberty to make sure you get to the polls and make your voices heard, particularly in the local, state, and Congressional elections, where so many defenders of Freedom are fighting and need your support.

As he had done in 2008, Paul used the Republican nominating process--especially the debates--to advocate for libertarian economic ideals and an isolationist foreign policy. The latter posture endeared him to the mainstream media, who continued to use his positions as a foil against other Republicans.

Paul's organization has been particularly effective and enthusiastic in state delegate contests, so his influence on the Republican party platform--and the vice-presidential nomination stakes--could be significant. Speculation that he might split from the GOP to mount an independent presidential bid were never borne out, and may have been pre-empted by Libertarian candidate Gary Johnson's attempt to do the same.

www.breitbart.com/Big-Gov...Ron-Paul-Goes-Galt-Quits- Presidential-Race-but-Hopes-to-Turn-Tide

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

randge  posted on  2012-05-14   16:22:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Paul KNOWS he can't win the new 14th district.

Paul KNOWS he can't win the country.

Even if his supporters do not.

An old lonely slave comes back from the grave
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-14   16:28:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Prefrontal Vortex, FormerLurker, 4 (#7)

Since our early voting period began today, I don't know how/if that will affect any advertising here.

Much of RP's advertising is done through local Meetup groups which, I assure you, receive zero donations from the candidate or his war chest.

Un-funded, un-directed, un-daunted, we press on.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-05-14   16:28:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: randge (#13)

Speculation that he might split from the GOP to mount an independent presidential bid were never borne out,

Ron decided long ago to DO NO HARM TO THE FUTURE OF RAND PAUL.

That entailed no third party run, AND NO HARM TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Now the republican party will be beholden to Ron.

It is politics at its best backroom style.

Trying to paper over this withdrawal is futile and foolish.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-14   16:29:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Cynicom (#16)

Now the republican party will be beholden to Ron.

Gratitude is not in them. They will do something if it helps them.

An old lonely slave comes back from the grave
Searching... searching... searching
For his master who's long gone on

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-05-14   16:39:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Cynicom was right, Ron Paul is a royal turd

Cynicom is a leftist troll who hasn't been right about anything his whole life

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-05-14   16:45:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull, Cynicom, all (#0)

On the bright side, a strong supporter of states rights is still on the ballot.

Sheriff Richard Mack is running for Congress here in Texas.

IMO, this man is worthy of support.

‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it, the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to his commitment to excellence.’
~Vince Lombardi

Buzzard  posted on  2012-05-14   16:52:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Lod, Pinguinite (#4)

Ron Paul doesn't need to spend money in states that haven't voted. His origination is in place and he already has the delegates locked up, it's going to be a brokered convention.

Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1)

Flintlock  posted on  2012-05-14   16:52:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#18)

Cynicom is a leftist troll who hasn't been right about anything his whole life

You forgot FedGov agent provocateur and overall 02 waster

Ron Paul and his legions of spam monkeys ain’t gonna win shinola. - Jim Robinson - (comment #1)

Flintlock  posted on  2012-05-14   16:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Flintlock (#21)

You forgot FedGov agent provocateur and overall 02 waster

He reminds me of Robin, who for years acted and posted on F4um as a lover of small government right up until Obama began his "free healthcare" bullshit. Once Dr. Paul became a threat to his masters, Cynicom began his anti-Paul crusade.

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-05-14   17:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Buzzard (#19)

Mack is certainly worthy of support: do you know when and why he moved to TX?

Thanks.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-05-14   17:02:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: F.A. Hayek Fan (#18)

Cynicom is a leftist troll who hasn't been right about anything his whole life

You really need to remember to take your meds.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-14   17:05:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Cynicom (#2)

assorted rubes

hahahaha. just damn.

Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.

christine  posted on  2012-05-14   17:08:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod (#4)

and carry a strong message to the Republican National Convention that Liberty is the way of the future.

RP nails it! ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-05-14   17:09:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: randge (#13)

Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken

Kudos to Mencken! ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-05-14   17:14:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Flintlock (#21)

Cynicom is a leftist troll who hasn't been right about anything his whole life

You forgot FedGov agent provocateur and overall 02 waster

RP dropped out last time the day of the Texas convention - this time a couple of weeks prior to the Texas primary and the delegate convention.

Whatever the strategy (if there really is one) it doesn't look like the one I'd use. It looks like he quit to everyone except some of Paul's people.

I don't trust "any" FED including Ron Paul and I'm not a leftist troll or a FED GOV Agent provocateur.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-14   17:15:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: noone222 (#24)

You really need to remember to take your meds.

Why? Cynicom is an admitted lifetime federal employee. He is an outspoken advocate of unions in general and the federal employees union in particular. That makes him pro-big government. If he talks like a leftist and walks like a leftist.....

Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan

F.A. Hayek Fan  posted on  2012-05-14   17:17:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Esso, Cynicom, Rubes (#1)

Don't feel too bad, Tom. Lucy ALWAYS jerks the football away.

Mea culpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-05-14   17:33:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Jethro Tull (#0) (Edited)

Maybe we'll see what this revolution is really made out of. In reading some of the posts at the DAILY PAUL it appears that many of Ron's supporters are ready to go even if he quits.

The fact is Ron's an old guy and could have died during this campaign season and then what - freedom and liberty die with Ron Paul ? I hope there's some truth in the statements coming out that Ron simply hasn't got the funding to campaign in the primary states that remain and is pulling delegates together for the convention in Tampa. (It's really too bad that Texas gets screwed again).

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-14   17:34:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#2)

Now all that is left is to see what and when the "deal" was made.

If this is true, RP must have been shown the Kennedy Zappruder film. He had been getting way too much support lately.

ambi  posted on  2012-05-14   17:36:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: noone222 (#31)

Maybe we'll see what this revolution is really made out of. In reading some of the posts at the DAILY PAUL it appears that many of Ron's supporters are ready to go even if he quits.

I'll take a peek at some of the forums I got involved with recently. I can't help but think had RP just kept his yap shut this "go anyway" sentiment might have validity. With Paul making this very unnecessary statement, I can't help but think a giant wet towel has been thrown over the movement.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-05-14   17:42:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lod (#23)

do you know when and why he moved to TX?

He and his wife relocated to Gillespie County (Fredericksburg) about a year ago at the invitation of the local Tea Party group.

Prior to the move, Mack had been considering running for Senate in AZ.

He's now running in the 21st Congressional district against Lamar Smith.

‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it, the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to his commitment to excellence.’
~Vince Lombardi

Buzzard  posted on  2012-05-14   17:43:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Jethro Tull (#33)

With Paul making this very unnecessary statement, I can't help but think a giant wet towel has been thrown over the movement.

JT, I was just talking to CadetD and used the exact same terms to describe my opinion. Saying anything was UNNECESSARY and counter-productive.

"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."

The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.

noone222  posted on  2012-05-14   17:44:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Buzzard (#34)

He's now running in the 21st Congressional district against Lamar Smith.

Thanks.

God knows that pos needs to be replaced.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-05-14   17:52:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#17)

Gratitude is not in them.

Certainly not.

However, when deals are made in politics, they are nearly always kept because not to do so is nearly always fatal politically.

Cynicom  posted on  2012-05-14   17:53:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Cynicom, randge (#16)

Speculation that he might split from the GOP to mount an independent presidential bid were never borne out,

Ron decided long ago to DO NO HARM TO THE FUTURE OF RAND PAUL.

That entailed no third party run, AND NO HARM TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.

Now the republican party will be beholden to Ron.

It is politics at its best backroom style.

Trying to paper over this withdrawal is futile and foolish.

While I somewhat agree I disagree with the motivations you are assigning to RP.

I still go back to the South Carolina Debate in the last (s)Election as that was the turning point. The entire tenor of his campaign changed from that point forward. If you look for a reason now for his behavior it is not in present time you will not find one - it is back in SC (or that time frame). I don't know what he was threatened with but it was convincing. It is possible that a Senatorial seat for Rand was offered to make things less bitter, but I am convinced that was NOT the reason for the change. The reason there will be no third party run is because of a threat or threats unknown. Threats so overwhelming that he would not dare mention them in public. It would be pointless anyway as a third party candidate, as it stands now, will not ever be allowed to win.

I do not know how it was done but I am convinced that he was threatened with something that he could not counter - likely the lives of loved ones from a source that he knew could, and would, make good on the threats. And it was from that point that his focus shifted and he ceased being a serious candidate as he knew he would not be allowed to win and that if he made enough noise that people close to him would have "accidents".

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-14   17:56:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: Jethro Tull, noone222, christine, CadetD, abraxas, farmfriend, Lod, James Deffenbach, All (#33)

I'll take a peek at some of the forums I got involved with recently. I can't help but think had RP just kept his yap shut this "go anyway" sentiment might have validity. With Paul making this very unnecessary statement, I can't help but think a giant wet towel has been thrown over the movement.

That is very likely the exact intent. Remember the people we are facing rely extensively on psychological/psychiatric control - "the meme is quicker than the eye". If I am correct, that he was gotten to at the time of the SC Republican Debate in the last election cycle then the entire function of this run was as a PsyOp

So, if I am right the entire point of the RP run this time was to prevent the rise of a real anti-fascist candidate. And just as everyone is beginning to develop hope that we might make a breakthrough the rug is pulled out at the psychological moment timed to prevent the rise of another candidate and to discourage the defenders of liberty.

Remember that one of the prime functions of a PsyOp is to discourage and demoralize the enemy. If you grant that the power elite regards "We The People" as the enemy it begins to make a Machiavellian sense - in a psychological way. The intent being to disrupt and demoralize the rise of a liberty movement which threatens the criminals in power.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-05-14   18:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Jethro Tull (#0)

Cynicom was right, Ron Paul is a royal turd

When the SHTF and the economy crashes who's the establishment going to pin it on?

I thought Ron Paul and the "Libertarians" would be a perfect fit.

He is not out, he is changing strategy according to his resources, and may just get to be the donkey the elites try to pin the tail on.

Keep posted, it ain't over till it's over. If he does win the recovery will be swift, the austerity short, and there will be a new era of prosperity.

The elites, think they have this one figured out, but they are relying on Keynesian thinking, to pin it on Paul, this is getting very interesting.

Cynicom, was that you on Newsweak with that rainbow halo??

Lysander_Spooner  posted on  2012-05-14   18:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



      .
      .
      .

Comments (41 - 122) not displayed.

TopPage UpFull ThreadPage DownBottom/Latest