Title: Cynicom was right, Ron Paul is a royal turd Source:
[None] URL Source:[None] Published:May 14, 2012 Author:Moi Post Date:2012-05-14 15:43:49 by Jethro Tull Keywords:None Views:2904 Comments:122
As per Drudge, RP just quit the race. I was taken yet again.
Cyni, this is directed to you. You nailed it from the get go, and I got suckered.
I bow to you and accept my heaping portion of crow served anyway you care to deliver it to me.
There was a clear difference in the "before and after" and that is why I think he was threatened by what he regarded as a credible threat. If you assume that then everything else begins to make a murky sense.
Can you clarify that? (not sure what you mean exactly)
It's hard to pin down since I have no direct evidence, but it was as though before the SC debate he was making steady serious inroads, and then all of sudden his attitude changed - it was a subtle change but it was the difference between "fire in the belly" to "making a good show of it" as though he had been convinced that under no circumstances would he be allowed to win. It was at the SC debate where he repudiated all of his 911 Truth supporters in making a statement which was uncharacteristically harsh and absolutely embracing the Party Lyin on 911 - despite what had been coming out the back door that he thought a real investigation was in order.
And when I say credible threat I mean that it came from a source, regardless of the specifics of the threat, for which there was no doubt whatsoever in his mind that "they" could make good on it. In other words he was certain the threat was real and was certain that the people making the threat could and would carry it out if he did not play ball.
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
I get that H, but tactically, I see zero sense in today's announcement. He was on all the state ballots, and his strategy of delegate accumulation was creeping along, albeit slowly. Why????? announce it's over before Tampa????
Good question. In the announcement it was stated that he did not have the funds to continue in the primary states. I assume that means he isn't going to spend money on advertising in those states or campaigning throughout those states. If that is the case then surely the media would notice. This may have been nothing more than Ron Paul being upfront and honest instead of being sneaky and hoping no one noticed. Hell, who knows how the media would twist that.
Then again, maybe he's been a plant for the last 40 years. If so, then he should receive an academy award because he's bamboozled tens of millions of people.
Maybe I am a rube like others have said but I trust the man. I've been reading his writings since the early 80's. He's walked the walk of his talk as far as I am concerned. When he does things (like this) that I don't understand, then I give him the benefit of the doubt for the simple reason that I think that he truly is a good, decent human being who has the best interests of this country and its people in mind. I'm not a Christian or religious at all but when I think of what a Christian SHOULD be, I think of Ron Paul, as foolish as that may be.
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown
Jesus said, "Forgive them Father for they know not what they do. Evangelical Fundinuts say, "kill them all who will not bow down to the Zionist Jew." - F.A. Hayek Fan
This primary season was an absolute abomination such as the Soviets could never get away with.
It did have the salubrious effect though of convincing a lot more people that what we have is "Potemkin" Elections - that the facade of one man one vote has ceased to have any substance in reality. FreepTards excepted of course as in their slack jawed, mouth breathing, drooling world anything Faux Nooze or the Mahajunkie says is holy writ that anyone "thinking" - otherwise is a (((((shudder))))) "conspiracy theorist" - and evidence be damned.
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
We been so well bamboozled in our lifetimes that it's impossible to know a public man in whom you can invest your trust with absolute certainty, but I have the same feeling about RP.
I really think he has gone as far as a man can go in the name of liberty without being Wellstoned.
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Then again, maybe he's been a plant for the last 40 years. If so, then he should receive an academy award because he's bamboozled tens of millions of people.
Very good.
Jethro, two others and myself have been discussing this possibility for quite some time. In fact for years.
#72. To: Original_Intent, ambi, jethro tull, formerlurker (#38)
as i posted to christine this morning before paul's trotsky2 speech.. did ya'll see that Paul had breakfast with bernanke last week and declined to say what was discussed?
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you".Sirach 4:28
.. did ya'll see that Paul had breakfast with bernanke last week and declined to say what was discussed?
"Wednesday’s visit to the Fed’s Washington headquarters was not the first for Mr. Paul, who has said previously he dined at the central bank with former Fed Chairman Paul Volcker".
yes, I did know about that. I'm curious as to what was discussed now. some sort of threat? who knows. I will be extremely disgusted if Ron endorses Romney. Any bets? I'm going to still say no.
Three grand essentials to happiness in this life are something to do, something to love, and something to hope for.
did ya'll see that Paul had breakfast with bernanke last week and declined to say what was discussed?
Frankly, I don't think he should speak with Bernanke except "very" publicly.
I feel badly for those supporting him though I can't say I blame them too much. It's hard for people not to get excited about someone touting freedom that has a record of championing it. The thing is that he never made an ounce of difference as far as the agenda is/was concerned - he simply kept those intelligent enough to seek a legitimate change by legitimate means in the game for one more fake-ass election cycle.
The fact that he and his campaign advisors "chose" to make this completely unnecessary statement about quitting the primaries almost makes me sick to my stomach because it makes me think the worst about him. Right before the Texas primary, where he may well have kicked Romney's ass - he forfeits.
Bullshit !
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
I will be extremely disgusted if Ron endorses Romney. Any bets? I'm going to still say no.
I'll take that bet. I have a feeling his son's future dedends on it.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner. My Man Godfrey (1936)
The fact that he and his campaign advisors "chose" to make this completely unnecessary statement about quitting the primaries almost makes me sick to my stomach because it makes me think the worst about him.
This is what simply doesn't wash no matter how one looks at it.
This is what simply doesn't wash no matter how one looks at it.
Thusfar, he's been called a lot of names by a few people --- in the future he'll be called a few names by a lot of people.
If he is in fact a con man - he's a damn good one !
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
The Show this time has more twisty-turnies in it than an Alfred Hitchcock movie.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner. My Man Godfrey (1936)
The thing is that he never made an ounce of difference as far as the agenda is/was concerned - he simply kept those intelligent enough to seek a legitimate change by legitimate means in the game for one more fake-ass election cycle.
There ya go...
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner. Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner. My Man Godfrey (1936)
#88. To: christine, JT, Lod, Esso, Artisan, F.A. Hayek (#87)
that shocks me too..
Truthfully, it turned my stomach and made me feel kinda sick.
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
Right before the Texas primary, where he may well have kicked Romney's ass - he forfeits.
that shocks me too..
Lots of delegates in Texas !
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
There's millions of suckers born every election cycle ! (Or something like that).
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
The relationship between morality and liberty is a directly proportional one.
"If you love wealth more than liberty, the tranquility of servitude better than the animating contest of freedom, depart from us in peace. We ask not your counsel nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains rest lightly upon you and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen.”
Go back 100 years to 1912 and Rep. Charles Lindbergh.
Attempts were made on his life and he was run out of politics by the New York times.
Then 1920s/30s Rep Louis McFadden, shot at, poisoned and poison on second attempt got him.
Then 1930s/40s, Charles Lindbergh, son murdered.
What did they all have in common? Very vocal about the bankers and Federal Reserve.
Then Ron Paul current, re elected twelve times as a republican without any opposition.
Hard to ignore the facts.
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
His epitaph: "I tried to tell them I was a Republican"
"The few who understand the [FEDERAL RESERVE] system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863.
I recall the Trotski memo four years ago, the majority of the faithful denied reality.
Paul wants to keep as many supporters as possible to be used for leverage at the convention. Too many abandon ship and Ron will be all alone at Tampa. He is not dumb.
I agree, that is why he has not suspended anything... The media has reported one thing and folks were quick to believe a lying ass media that they consistently rag on everyday.
Leverage meh
I support the occupation Fuck it if it kills me. Liberty before death.
"Moving forward, however, we will no longer spend resources campaigning in primaries in states that have not yet voted. ........Doing so with any hope of success would take many tens of millions of dollars we simply do not have........
Like the Trotski memo, people need to take Paul at his word.
Paul has moved on, his supporters also need to do the same.
He's not throwing in the towel! He will not be advertising in primary states.
Dear Abraxas,
As I reflect on our 2012 Presidential campaign, I am humbled by the supporters who have worked so hard and sacrificed so much. And I am so proud of what we have accomplished. We will not stop until we have restored what once made America the greatest country in human history.
This campaign fought hard and won electoral success that the talking heads and pundits never thought possible. But, this campaign is also about more than just the 2012 election. It has been part of a quest I began 40 years ago and that so many have joined. It is about the campaign for Liberty, which has taken a tremendous leap forward in this election and will continue to grow stronger in the future until we finally win.
Our campaign will continue to work in the state convention process. We will continue to take leadership positions, win delegates, and carry a strong message to the Republican National Convention that Liberty is the way of the future.
Moving forward, however, we will no longer spend resources campaigning in primaries in states that have not yet voted. Doing so with any hope of success would take many tens of millions of dollars we simply do not have. I encourage all supporters of Liberty to make sure you get to the polls and make your voices heard, particularly in the local, state, and Congressional elections, where so many defenders of Freedom are fighting and need your support.
I hope all supporters of Liberty will remain deeply involved - become delegates, win office, and take leadership positions. I will be right there with you. In the coming days, my campaign leadership will lay out to you our delegate strategy and what you can do to help, so please stay tuned.
For Liberty,
Ron Paul
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
...Had he simply kept his yap shut he certainly would have garnered more delegates then he will now. I smell the stench of politics. I wish I felt differently.
Strategically, it makes no sense to me either.
He didn't need to spend any $$$ here; the pubbies were so frightened that they cancelled their convention this year rather than have us take it over.
So it's all a puzzlement to me...
Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson
