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Title: There are no “Alphas”
Source: UncleBob's Treehouse
URL Source: http://uncabob.blogspot.com/2012/06/there-are-no-alphas.html
Published: Jun 3, 2012
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2012-06-03 15:18:07 by Turtle
Keywords: None
Views: 248
Comments: 12

For the past few months I have been reading what is embarrassingly called the “Manosphere.” I understand what it is about – it is a reaction to 40 plus years of the evil of leftist/lesbian “feminism.”

Since it is a reaction to the destructive influence of feminism there is of course some good to it. Unfortunately, there is a lot of bad to it, too.

One of the bads is the concept of “the Alpha.” The Alpha as such does not exist; it is a concept that refers to something that doesn’t exist in reality. (Those who continually babble about how they are Alphas, like the washed-up loser Ted Nugent, are anything but).

The reason the Alpha does not exist is the definition is too broad, and since the definition is too broad it doesn’t make much sense and therefore confuses people.

There are actually two Alphas: the bad one, and the good one.

The bad one has traditionally been called a cad. Strictly speaking, the cad is not a man, since his values are the opposite of what has traditionally defined a man. So then, a man would be the good Alpha.

My experience of bad “Alphas” is that they are immature, childish and cowardly. They have no loyalty and little discipline in important things. They are impulsive, self-centered, prone to drug addiction, and when they become middle-aged their lives are filled with regret over their ruined lives and lost opportunities for happiness.

I know one whom I have known since I was 21. He was never a friend, just an acquaintance. Even then I was getting huge red flags on him, even though I did not know what he was doing (I was informed about his behavior years later by a mutual friend).

He was a fairly good-looking guy who did truly vile things. He would target women who weren’t all the good-looking (and never very bright), tell them what he described as “what they wanted to hear,” lead them to think he was their boyfriend, then have sex with them for two weeks (while seeing other women) then dump them.

He did this approximately 100 times.

How did he end up? As a drug addict (and has ruined his teeth because of it), who is alone, and who has never had a serious relationship with a woman. He did say, finally, that “I got a taste of my own medicine.” He is also, not surprisingly, a coward (a coward is someone who is a blowhard and a bully who collapses when someone gets the best of them, which isn’t all that hard).

Cads can be quite popular with the more stupid and immature women who can’t see through them. (As an aside, men are far better judges of men’s characters than women are, and any woman with any sense will ask other men what they think of the “boyfriend” and if they don’t listen to their judgments they have no one to blame but themselves).

Cads are actually quite narcissistic, which means they can be charming and manipulative, but have nothing on the inside. They generally collapse in middle age. This has been seen by therapists so many times dozens of books have been written about it.

Artists (who as Ezra Pound noticed are the antennae of the human race) have noticed what happens to cads. The example I use is of Cal (played by Billy Zane) in the movie Titanic. Cal was a coward who happened to have looks and money.

But what happened when he lost his money during the Great Depression? He shot himself. This happened because he had nothing on the inside, again typical of narcissists. They’re like balloons, empty on the inside and easy to pop (I am reminded of that old saying: “All hat, no cattle”).

An earlier movie about a cad is the ‘60s movie Alfie, with Shelly Winters and Michael Caine. Caine is basically a gigolo, and when Winters dumps him she tells him, “You’re too old.” The shock on his face is priceless; he suddenly realizes what he is and where he’s heading.

Incidentally, the lyrics to the theme song run thus: “What’s it all about, Alfie? /Is is just for the moment we live?” That is how the impulsive cad lives his life and it’s why he sooner or later collapses and ends up alone and desolate, with no relationships, no meaning and no importance to his life.

The easiest way to get to a cad is to say, “You know what your problem is? You’re not a man. You’ve never grown up.” They’ll get upset and angry every time, which means you’ve hit a very sensitive nerve.

Cads think they can go on with their behavior for decades and nothing bad will happen to them. They almost always think, “Well, I can manipulate and lie to stupid women for years, but still get a good one.” It doesn’t happen. I’ve never seen it happen.

What is the opposite of a cad? A man who has loyalty and honor. He has self-control (meaning he is not impulsive except in certain select circumstances). He tries to be brave. He tries to not manipulate and lie.

These characteristics are generally considered to be the good military virtues (there are also the bad military qualities, which have now pretty much overwhelmed the American military). I am not defending the military; I’m just pointing out that, ideally, that what they embody have traditionally been the best masculine virtues.

For that matter, these ideal masculine virtues run back to at least the Greeks, who referred to them as Stoics. A Stoic, contrary to the common belief, is not someone who tries to have no feelings (a delusion also believed by those ignorant of Buddhism) but is someone who tries to achieve equanimity and peace amidst the turbulence in the world.

In other words, a Stoic has humility (meaning self-knowledge), self-control (is not impulsive) and tries to be a rock who lets the chaos and disorder of the world flow past him without disturbing him. In other words, he has mental, emotional and physical discipline.

For that matter, the above qualities were the ideal of the Victorians, which Neal Stephenson wrote about extensively in his novel, The Diamond Age. Those masculine virtues of self-control and selected venting of impulsiveness allows societies based on them to achieve great intellectual, moral and financial wealth.

By the way, the Victorians were a reaction to the preceding age, which was a degraded time that Dickens wrote about in his novels. That decadent pre-Victorian age is what we have now, which is why there is a reaction with the Manosphere, which in its good aspect is an attempt to roll back the society-destroying evil of “feminism” and re-impose morals on which society can thrive.

The fact that the common definition of “Alpha” includes both what a man should be to have a good life and should not be because it will destroy his life is why it makes little sense.

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#1. To: Turtle (#0)

Bobby me lad 'tis one of those time when you have managed to hit the old joiner quite squarely with the impacting tool.

Of course that is much of what psychology is - generalizations, not necessarily true, which are gussied up with Greek and Latin pseudo-scientific jargon.

Feminism was a wonderful social wedge by which to disrupt the culture. It effectively destroyed the traditions of chivalrous behavior and under the pretext of freeing women enslaved them instead to a dead end world view. It is not that women did not have legitimate complaints, nor that they were not treated inequitably in the workplace, but that the traditional roles of men and women and the formation of the fundamental unit stabilizing a society and culture, the family, was effectively rooted out and destroyed. I was reading the article the other day on how less than 50% of the adult population is seeking marriage. And I can understand that in the case of young men as the game has been totally rigged against them - everything is their fault and the woman is always the victim and in the right. To marry the wrong woman in the current culture is to have one's life destroyed.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-06-03   15:44:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Turtle (#0)

From what I can tell, there are 2 schools of thought on this

1) THey only do what women respond to. The goal is sex and possibly a LTR, and what they do works. There are no real ulterior motives. It just acknowledges that women cannot be treated like they were men.

2) There are ulterior motives. They only care about what they want, and if women didn't have ... you know... then they wouldn't bother.

now, was school #1 necessary in the past? Or were women more straightforward and much less manipulative? I don't know. I wouldn't doubt it if I was told they were less insane back then.

And imo school #2 is based on a hatred of women, brought on by a hatred of self.

And when it comes to being "alpha", like your Nugent example, you're right. I cannot imagine someone calling themselves an "alpha". It's as silly as shouting "I am a masculine man!"

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Whenever there's resistance, examine your motivation. Whenever there's flow, consider taking action.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-06-03   16:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Original_Intent (#1)

Feminism was a wonderful social wedge by which to disrupt the culture.

I met spinsters on psychiatric drugs all the time. Hostile, alone, no home, husband and children - and blaming all their problems on men.

Which, in a limited sense is true -- because men let women (and men) get away with this nonsense.

Of course, it won't last. There will be a reaction (which is now starting) and that pendulum will swing back.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-06-03   16:30:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Turtle, 4 (#0)

cad = sociopath

applies to both genders.

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-06-03   17:22:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Turtle (#0)

This happened because he had nothing on the inside, again typical of narcissists. They’re like balloons, empty on the inside and easy to pop

Back in my younger days I used to split & sell firewood for extra cash.

There would sometimes be trees which had a firm exterior but the heartwood was soft and decaying. Your description of a narcissist reminded me of that.

We used to call it "punk".

‘Gentlemen, if you’ve ever thought about it, the quality of a man’s life is directly proportionate to his commitment to excellence.’
~Vince Lombardi

Buzzard  posted on  2012-06-03   18:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Turtle (#0)

Cads can be quite popular with the more stupid and immature women who can’t see through them. (As an aside, men are far better judges of men’s characters than women are, and any woman with any sense will ask other men what they think of the “boyfriend” and if they don’t listen to their judgments they have no one to blame but themselves).

Men can have the same blindness to women. There is a female subtype I have always labeled the "Fuzzy Pink Pit Viper", that women hate and men are vulnerable to. They butter up men, stroke their egos and coo while playing dirty tricks on other women. When the other women dare complain they look like a bitch.

octavia  posted on  2012-06-03   19:49:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: octavia, men, women, 4 (#6)

here's the ticket -

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-06-03   19:53:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: PSUSA2 (#2)

My hubby saw Nugent once. He opened for the Allman Brothers back when they called themselves the Allman Joys. At one point he threw himself off the stage and into the arms of his loving fans. The loving fans backed off and Ted the Alpha man landed face first on the concrete and was hauled away by an ambulance.

Alphas are like that you know. Stupid with too much belief in their own alpha-ness.

octavia  posted on  2012-06-04   0:08:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: octavia (#8)

Alphas are like that you know. Stupid with too much belief in their own alpha-ness.

Anyone that has to explicitly claim dominance is not dominant.

And now there are 'men' that are using 'alpha' techniques just so they can get laid. It works, but it's an act, and one slip up can fuck it all up. Women are not stupid, they're just different.

IMO if the 'men' would not fawn all over a woman, be non-caring as in not caring about the result, they'd do much better. It's amazing the effect of ignoring a woman has on her. But jebus chrysler! they can act like little kids around women. It can be downright painful to watch.

Alpha man landed face first on the concrete and was hauled away by an ambulance.

Serves him right.

I like his music, but I wouldn't get along with him.

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Whenever there's resistance, examine your motivation. Whenever there's flow, consider taking action.

PSUSA2  posted on  2012-06-04   7:27:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: octavia (#8)

My hubby saw Nugent once

I've seen him twice and was not impressed by his character either time - and the first time I was 15.

One of my friends was going to start an organization which involved Nugent. He thought he was supposed to be in charge of everything since he had so much money. The other men told him to get lost.

I doubt Nugent has any friends at all. These days, no girlfriends, either.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-06-04   12:40:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: octavia (#6)

They butter up men, stroke their egos and coo while playing dirty tricks on other women.

Once a man runs across one he usually becomes aware of what they are. It usually only takes one.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-06-04   12:56:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Turtle, 4 (#11)

Break the Conventions - Keep the Commandments - G.K.Chesterson

Lod  posted on  2012-06-04   13:19:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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