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Title: James Holmes was a Lunatic, not Brainwashed
Source: Unclebob's Treehouse
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Published: Jul 30, 2012
Author: Bob Wallace
Post Date: 2012-07-30 12:00:00 by Turtle
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Views: 7762
Comments: 106

Whenever something bad happens the Conspiracist Crackpots immediately come out of the woodwork and start hallucinating. Holmes was brainwashed. He had a chip in his head. It was a false flag operation.
It’s all bullshit. Brainwashing doesn’t exist, contrary to those with the vapors.
The retired psychiatrist James Gilligan spend 35 years dealing with thousands of murderers, trying to find out what they did what they did. Every time what he heard was, “He dissed me [my wife, girlfriend, parents, friends, children] so I killed him.”
One day he realized what he was hearing was the story of Cain and Abel – a story thousands of years old that explained why people murdered other people. Cain murdered Abel because he was rejected, humiliated, insulted, shamed. He blamed it on his brother and murdered him.
Murder is about the desire for revenge, to replace shame with pride.
Holmes was a complete loser with women. He was consistently rejected by them. I doubt he had even kissed a woman, just like the Korean shooter in Virginia who murdered some 30 people.
Holmes had been on a sex site trying to find women, and was rejected by every one of them.
Additionally, he was mentally ill, apparently from schizophrenia. On TV I saw his eyes wandering. That’s a side effect of psychiatric drugs (I don’t call it medication) and one of the main side effects of these drugs is increases in murder/suicide.
I doubt Holmes even remembers what he did.
A schizophrenia on murder/suicide “medication,” a loner/loser rejected by women, who was just kicked out of school…he was sending out red flags all over the place.
The Conspiracist Crackpots, because they are deluded, can’t see the truth in front of their eyes. Unfortunately, they’ll never change their minds. Believing is non-existent conspiracies is just too much fun.
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#20. To: titorite (#17) (Edited)
except that very rare reader, like yourself, that already knows instinctively that conspiracies do not exist.

Sarcasm.
Of course conspiracies exist.
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wakeup posted on 2012-07-31 11:26:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: wakeup (#20)
Of course conspiracies exist.

Yes, they do exist.
There are conspiracies in the government and media to pretend that blacks do not rape/sexually assault 37,000 white women a year, and that they aren't responsible for all gang rapes,and that only whites are racist...do I have to go on with the real conspiracies?
Then there are the non-existent conspiracies....James Holmes was a zombie robot...remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in the WTC....three shooters on Kennedy...moon landings on a stage....all fantasies.
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
Turtle posted on 2012-07-31 11:33:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: scrapper2 (#16)
hi scrap!
this thing so stinks to high heaven. Holmes did not do this alone. i'm convinced of it.

christine posted on 2012-07-31 11:43:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: Turtle (#21)
and explosives in the WTC....three shooters on Kennedy.

you're so full of it on those. how you can deny the evidence right before your eyes is unbelievable to me. WTC buildings pulverized and falling at nearly free fall speed and then building 7 never having been hit by a plane and falling at free fall speed.
often wrong, but never in doubt. ;)

christine posted on 2012-07-31 11:47:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Lysander_Spooner (#9)
uh huh.

christine posted on 2012-07-31 11:50:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Turtle (#0)
because they are deluded,

and THE all knowing Bob Wallace has proclaimed it thus!!

christine posted on 2012-07-31 11:58:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: wudidiz (#19)
What a couple of dumbasses.

agreed.

christine posted on 2012-07-31 11:59:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: scrapper2 (#16)
As he walked up the aisle shooting, as per the official script, I find it absurd that not one person interrupted him once he was past them.

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-07-31 12:00:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: christine (#23)
you're so full of it

I'm full of brains. And cuteness!
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
Turtle posted on 2012-07-31 12:04:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: Jethro Tull, 4 (#27)
Why are there no videos of the shooting?
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Lod posted on 2012-07-31 12:08:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: Turtle (#0)
spoilsport.
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PSUSA2 posted on 2012-07-31 12:13:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: PSUSA2 (#30)
spoilsport.

I know.
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
Turtle posted on 2012-07-31 12:19:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: Turtle (#31)
You also knew it was only a (very short) matter of time before the conspiracy freaks came out of the woodwork. One doesn't need to be a genius to predict that. Hell, I knew that.
It's fukushima all over again.
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PSUSA2 posted on 2012-07-31 12:22:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: PSUSA2 (#32)
You also knew it was only a (very short) matter of time before the conspiracy freaks came out of the woodwork.

What I find bizarre is that as soon as some people found out about the shooting, they immediately sat down at their computers and starting writing about how it was a conspiracy. I'll bet within ten minutes they were writing articles. Proof? Who need proof? Everything is a conspiracy! Everyone knows that!
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
Turtle posted on 2012-07-31 12:28:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: titorite, wakeup (#17)
except that very rare reader, like yourself, that already knows instinctively that conspiracies do not exist.

lol....got sarcasm?
" If you cannot govern yourself, you will be governed by assholes. " Randge, Poet de Forum, 1/11/11
"Life's tough, and even tougher if you're stupid." --John Wayne
abraxas posted on 2012-07-31 12:38:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: PSUSA2, Turtle, Shoonra (#32) (Edited)
Some people use critical thinking skills and never accept a story fraught with conflicting data just because that's what the government told them.
And then there are some people who just swallow whatever simple answer they can snatch out of the air, because it's simple and doesn't show the government to be evil and totally corrupt.
Hell, the investigation is still in progress, they haven't even closed the book on this one yet. Yet folks like you are sugar coating this as a "lone gunman" scenario, because you are either unwilling or unable to think this through in your minds, or because you've been programmed to accept the "simple answer", even though there really isn't one when all known facts are considered.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 13:41:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: FormerLurker (#35)
accept the "simple answer"

Amusingly, not one person has commented on Gilligan's rediscovering what causes murder..which was also discovered by Aristotle, Aquinas, St. Augustine, and many other thoughtful people.
It's easier for the robots to pretend everything is a conspiracy.
Not only is the Bible totally correct about the cause of murder, this is what Isiah 8:12 says about the belief in non-existent conspiracies: "You are not to say, 'It is a conspiracy!' In regard to all that this people call a conspiracy, And you are not to fear what they fear or be in dread of it."
I fear no conspiracy because they don't exist. There are enough problems in this world with hallucinating them.
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
Turtle posted on 2012-07-31 13:54:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: PSUSA2 (#32)
You also knew it was only a (very short) matter of time before the conspiracy freaks came out of the woodwork.

It's a bit ironic that you feel that way, being that you see huge conspiracies in the matter of religion. You rebelled from a strict Christian upbringing by jumping to the polar opposite of Christianity, Satanism.
You see nothing wrong with "satanism", and refuse to contemplate that there IS horrible and murderous evil in the world, and that evil is very possibly caused by a cognant force controlling or at minimum influencing humankind.
It is THAT sort of evil which leads to this sort of event. There ARE those who utilize that evil as a means to an ends, which typically results in them them having more power, and/or receiving vast treasures.
MKULTRA did not exist simply to provide spies that could be given secret messages which could not be extracted under torture. It existed to create mind- controlled assassins and soldiers, and to find ways to mass control populations by covert means.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 13:55:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: Turtle (#36)
I fear no conspiracy because they don't exist.

If that's true, then why are there laws against it, and why are people in prison for it?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 13:56:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: Turtle (#36)
How did the American Colonists plan to revolt against the King, if they did not speak of it first?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 14:00:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: Turtle (#36)
Do you even know what a conspiracy IS? It's simply a crime committed by two or more people, plotted ahead of time. So NOTHING illegal is plotted ahead of time by more than one person, right Turtle?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 14:03:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: Turtle (#33)
What I find bizarre is that as soon as some people found out about the shooting, they immediately sat down at their computers and starting writing about how it was a conspiracy.

That is because people are getting smarter. You should join them.
Turn off that radio next to your computer and start educating yourself for real.
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titorite posted on 2012-07-31 14:08:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: FormerLurker (#40)
So NOTHING illegal is plotted ahead of time by more than one person, right Turtle?

There are conspiracies, i.e., the media pretending that blacks don't rape/sexually assault 37,000 white women a year.
There are no conspiracies involving remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in towers.
There is a difference between what is and what isn't.
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
Turtle posted on 2012-07-31 14:18:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: Turtle (#42) (Edited)
There are no conspiracies involving remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in towers.

The government DOES have remote controlled planes and has tested them extensively, they're called drones and are used extensively.
As far as the towers, thousands of architects and engineers say those towers, AND Building 7, could NOT have come down WITHOUT explosives. I believe them and my own understanding of physics over your emotional "feelings" that it can't be true.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 14:26:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: abraxas (#34)
lol....got sarcasm?

that made me lol

christine posted on 2012-07-31 14:26:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: Turtle (#42)
There is a difference between what is and what isn't.

Apparently you have problems processing what IS. Your concept of what ISN'T is a bit faulty as well.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 14:27:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: Turtle (#42)
Oh, and you apparently can't seem to understand there is a room in between the two extremes known as it COULD be, MIGHT be, or we just don't know.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 14:29:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: PSUSA2 (#32)
oh, god. please don't tell me you believe, like Bob does, the government's 9/11 impossible tale, bin laden's killing tale, and the Warren Commission's report on the Kennedy assassination.

christine posted on 2012-07-31 14:30:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: FormerLurker (#45)
Apparently you have problems processing what IS. Your concept of what ISN'T is a bit faulty as well.

I will give you 10,000 years to prove there were remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in the WTC.
Good luck. You'll need it.
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
Turtle posted on 2012-07-31 14:36:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: Turtle (#42)
"You are not to say, 'It is a conspiracy!'
I fear no conspiracy because they don't exist.
There are conspiracies

In looking over your posts, do you see a bit of a problem here?
Feeling a bit confused today Turtle?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 14:37:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: Turtle (#48)
I will give you 10,000 years to prove there were remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in the WTC

If the "hijackers" are still alive, how did they "fly" those planes?
As far as explosives, can you not understand that an object does not drop at free fall speed if there is resistance to that "fall"?
There, it took me 10 seconds.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 14:39:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: FormerLurker (#49)
In looking over your posts, do you see a bit of a problem here?

Only nuts believe there was a conspiracy to sink the Titanic, or there were three shooters on Kennedy, or his driver finished him off, or the moon landings were shot on stage, or there were remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in the WTC. That's what I mean by "there are no conspiracies."
Affirmative Action is a conspiracy. It means "White Men Need Not Apply."
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
Turtle posted on 2012-07-31 14:40:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: FormerLurker (#50)
If the "hijackers" are still alive

Cloud Cuckoo land.
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
Turtle posted on 2012-07-31 14:42:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: christine, Turtle, Bob, 4 (#47)
Look, Bob knows that it's all true; Turtle, on the other hand, just tosses stuff out here for chumming-effect to see who rises to the bait.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them ~ Thomas Jefferson
Lod posted on 2012-07-31 14:43:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: Turtle (#51)
Only nuts believe there was a conspiracy to sink the Titanic, or there were three shooters on Kennedy, or his driver finished him off, or the moon landings were shot on stage, or there were remote-controlled airplanes and explosives in the WTC. That's what I mean by "there are no conspiracies."

You said conspiracies don't exist, and that it is a sin to say they do. Then you say there ARE some, but only ones that you can personally figure out.
Yet you don't see a problem with that thought flow.
I never said it was a conspiracy to sink the Titanic, nor did I say I believe the moon landings were faked, but they COULD have been since you bring it up.
That's the thing about folks who rant and rave that such things JUST CAN'T BE, you put words in the mouths of others which they never said, yet act so self- righteous and holy with your biblical quotes.
Isn't there a commandment against bearing false witness?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 14:46:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: Turtle (#52)
If the "hijackers" are still alive

Cloud Cuckoo land.

So when are you going to dye your hair red Turtle?
Hijack 'suspects' alive and well [BBC]
Revealed: the men with stolen identities [UK Telegraph]
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-07-31 14:49:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: Lod (#53)
Look, Bob knows that it's all true; Turtle, on the other hand, just tosses stuff out here for chumming-effect to see who rises to the bait.

Shut up and quit exposing me!!!
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.
Turtle posted on 2012-07-31 15:00:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: Turtle (#56)
I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Just don't start gnashing, it could disturb Mr.Pug.
I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them ~ Thomas Jefferson
Lod posted on 2012-07-31 15:11:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: FormerLurker, Turtle (#54)
Isn't there a commandment against bearing false witness?

Yes there is, and Turtle remember that lyin' a mortal sin. You will roast in your shell forever and ever and it won't never stop hurting.
Repent now.
Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. - H. L. Mencken
randge posted on 2012-07-31 15:12:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#59. To: All (#57)
pug heaven -

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them ~ Thomas Jefferson
Lod posted on 2012-07-31 15:17:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#60. To: christine (#47)
oh, god. please don't tell me you believe, like Bob does, the government's 9/11 impossible tale, bin laden's killing tale, and the Warren Commission's report on the Kennedy assassination.

It has nothing to do with the topics you list. It's about Holmes. And what I believe only is important to me.
But, I'll admit that I Dont Know about the topics you list. I wasn't there. And it is not enough to say the .gov story is bullshit. There have been all kinds of wacky conspiracy theories about 9/11, from UFOs to holographic projections to know knows what. Those "explanations" are just as f'd up as the .gov story.
Remember corexit and how we were all doomed Doomed DOOMED!!!
Remember fukushima and how we should at least be bald by now, if not dead?
Remember who it was that posted most of those articles here? Hint: It wasn't me. But I seemed to have aggravated the hell out of the poster by not going along with his program.
If people can generate a panic, thereby making them selves into Internet Big Shots in the process, then they'll do exactly that.
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