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Title: Let US start a thread on "WHO" Did 911
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Published: Sep 17, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-09-17 08:17:29 by Itistoolate
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#39. To: Turtle, Cynicom (#37) (Edited)

Out of the list you posted, only ONE claims to have seen "faces" of the passengers. His name is James R. Cissell.

You claimed "dozens of people" saw the plane fly into the Pentagon, and they saw the terrified looks on the passengers' faces.

So a whole whopping ONE witness said that. I think there could be a chance, don't you think, that HE is lying?

I'm sure the witnesses saw some type of aircraft. But NOT so close to them that they could see the passenger's faces.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-17   22:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Let US start a thread on "WHO" Did 911

As with every orchestrated event such as 9-11 or the Kennedy murder, the culprits are intel agencies that are compartmentalized. Then, after the event, so much dis-info is put out that making a definitive conclusion as to who dunnit becomes impossible.

I think the best we can do in this regard is to know that the U.S. Govt failed to prevent it, PNAC (mostly Jews) prayed for it and predicted it, Israel benefitted from it, Silverstein profitted, and the national security state enlarged itself 100 fold.

It's like the murder on the orient express - they all did it.

More importantly, we need to resolve this never ending bullshit by withdrawing our support of FED GOVCO at every opportunity, and by teaching our children to resist the Police State as well as refusing to serve in any military capacity.

"In an unjust society, the only place for a just man is prison."

Thoreau

noone222  posted on  2012-09-18   5:14:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Itistoolate (#0)

103 Suspected 9/11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

Home > 11. ACCOUNTABILITY/CONTAINMENT > 9/11 AND OTHER FALSE-FLAG OPERATIONS > 103 Suspected 9/11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

103 Suspected 9/11 Criminal Co-Conspirators

www.whodidit.org/cocon.html

George W. Bush — eldest son of Bush crime family; guilty of election fraud in 2000, 2004; guilty of war crimes, war profiteering, treason, crimes against humanity; likely signed-off on 9-11 plot

Dick Cheney — former PNAC member; former chairman of CFR; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several “war games”; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about timing of 9-11 activities

Donald Rumsfeld — former Secretary of War and PNAC member; close friend of Cheney; was at Pentagon on 9-11; once slipped and said “when that missile hit the Pentagon”

Paul Wolfowitz — Deputy Secretary of War on 9-11; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member; chief architect of Iraq war; forced to resign in World Bank scandal

Richard Perle — former assistant Secretary of War, chairman War Policy Board, and PNAC member; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; Zionist; allegedly gave $100,000 to head of Pakistan’s ISI, Mahmoud Ahmad; nicknamed “Prince of Darkness”

Douglas Feith — effectively in command, with Wolfowitz, of War Department on 9- 11; Undersecretary of War for Policy; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; Zionist; investigated for spying for Israel; former PNAC member

Dov Zakheim — Pentagon comptroller when trillion dollars reported missing on 9- 10-01; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; Zionist; Shul Rabbi; former CFR member; former CEO of fly-by-remote manufacturer; reputed 9-11 mastermind

George Tenet — director of the CIA on 9-11; was awarded the “Medal of Freedom” by Bush for his fine work on 9-11; reported to be “dual citizen” of US and Israel

Robert Mueller — FBI director on 9-11; under his “leadership” FBI field agents’ warnings of an imminent attack were stifled

Thomas Pickard — took over the job of FBI director from Louis Freeh in August 2001; held this position only for a few weeks before Robert Mueller became director; former Terror Task Force chief John O’Neill complained about sabotage by Pickard

Dale Watson — former Deputy Chief of the CIA at the Counter-Terrorist Center; appointed Inspector Deputy Assistant Director of the National Security Division (NSD), FBI Headquarters, Washington, DC in July 1998; appointed FBI Headquarters Assistant on December 6, 1999 by the Attorney General; ignored at least four different FBI agents’ warnings including an “urgent cable” from the CIA on August 23rd about Almihdhar and Alhazmi

Dave Frasca — FBI Radical Fundamentalists Unit Chief; personally scuttled the work of Kenneth Williams in July 2001 and Coleen Rowley in August 2001, the Arizona and Minnesota FBI agents who were actively investigating “terrorist” patsies in CIA-operated flight schools

Marion “Spike” Bowman — FBI agent who thwarted FBI investigations into both Zacarias Moussaoui and the anthrax attacks on Congress

John Ashcroft — Attorney General on 9-11; protected “terrorist” patsy Abdussattar Shaikh from subpoena after 9-11; stopped flying commercial aircraft in 2001

Michael Chertoff — Assistant Attorney General on 9-11; freed over 100 Israeli spies in the US after 9-11; promoted to head Homeland Security; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; Zionist; likely Mossad agent

Michael Mukasey — federal judge in New York; presided over 1993 WTC bombing case; active in 9-11 cases, including Larry Silverstein’s insurance claims; oversaw the detained material witnesses of 9-11, including five dancing Israeli Mossad agents apprehended by FBI; recently appointed by Bush to be the next Attorney General; radical Zionist of Russian Jewish parentage; “dual citizen” of US and Israel

Ted Olson — Solicitor General of the United States on 9-11; alleges that his wife, Barbara, phoned him from AA Flight 77 to report that it was highjacked by men with knives and box cutters; Flight 77 allegedly crashed into the Pentagon though there was no wreckage of a 757 at the site, no bodies, no luggage, and the hole in the side of the Pentagon was much too small to accommodate a 757 (Barbara is not likely alive, but she was not killed at the Pentagon event)

Colin Powell — Secretary of State on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad two days after 9-11; former chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff; helped cover up Vietnam My Lai massacre

Condi Rice — National Security Adviser on 9-11; promoted to Secretary of State; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission while under oath

Tommy Thompson — Health and Human Services (HHS) Secretary; hired Jerome Hauer, former Office of Emergency Center, on 9-10-01

Jerome Hauer — managing director of Kroll and senior adviser to US Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) for National Security and Emergency Management on 9-11; put John O’Neill at the WTC on 9-11; lied to Dan Rather on CBS News on 9-11 about the controlled demolition of WTC buildings; director of Giuliani’s Office of Emergency Management from 1996 to 2000

Porter Goss — former House Intelligence Chair; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan’s ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; promoted to Director of CIA, resigned after “hookergate”

Bob Graham — former Florida Senator; was meeting with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan’s ISI and 9-11 financier, on 9-11; ran for President in 2004

Marc Grossman — Under Secretary for Political Affairs on 9-11; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan’s ISI and 9-11 financier, on or shortly after 9- 11; “dual citizen” of US and Israel

Richard Armitage — former member of PNAC, Deputy Secretary of State; met with General Mahmoud Ahmad, head of Pakistan’s ISI and 9-11 financier, shortly after 9-11

Philip Zelikow — led the 9-11 Cover-Up Commission; personally wrote the 9-11 Omission Commission Report, a best-selling work of fiction; appointed Counselor of US Department of State; “dual citizen” of US and Israel

Ari Fleischer — White House spokesman for Bush on 9-11; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; connected to the extremist group called the Chabad Lubavitch Hasidics

Andrew Card — Bush’s Chief of Staff on 9-11; was with Bush at Booker Elementary School in Florida on 9-11; claims to have whispered to Bush, “A second plane hit the second tower, America is under attack”

Karl Rove — Bush’s top strategist, known as “Bush’s Brain”; America’s Joseph Goebbels; was behind the campaign to oust Georgia Representative Cynthia McKinney who was the first nationally-known politician to question Bush’s role in 9-11; in June 2005, said, “Conservatives saw the savagery of 9-11 in the attacks and prepared for war, liberals saw the savagery of the 9-11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers”

Richard Meyers — in charge of USA air defenses on 9-11; lied to 9-11 Omission Commission about reasons for air defense failure on 9-11; promoted to Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff

Ralph Eberhardt — NORAD Commander on 9-11; fanatical supporter of missile defense scheme, militarization of space; enthusiastic supporter of merging law enforcement and the military

Larry Arnold — NORAD Commander Major General on 9-11; has used 9-11 to push militarization of USA

Eric Findley — Canadian Air Force Major General; acting commander of NORAD on 9- 11

Montague Winfield — Major General in charge of Pentagon war room on 9-10-01, the evening of September 10th he requested a rookie to stand in for him on 9-11

Richard Mies — former Admiral; ran Global Guardian “war game” on 9-11 out of US Strategic Command (Stratcom) at Offutt Air Force Base; now CEO of Hicks & Associates, a “strategic consultant” to the USG dealing in “military transformation”

Henry Shelton — chairman of Joint Chiefs of Staff on 9-11; supported formation of Able Danger

Peter Schoomaker — US Army Chief of Staff; former SOCOM (Special Operations Command) chief; ran Able Danger

Geoffrey Lambert — Major General; SOCOM (Special Operations Command) Intel Chief; made Able Danger, the program that tracked patsy “terrorists”, off limits to FBI

John Brinkerhoff — retired US Army Colonel who was a career senior executive in the Office of Secretary of War; from 1981 to 1983, FEMA associate director for national preparedness where he developed plan for martial law; claims intentions of Posse Comitatus are “misunderstood and misapplied”, that USG has “full and absolute authority” to use troops to quell American uprising; after 9-11, joined Anser Institute for Homeland Security and wrote “talking points” supporting revised “national security initiatives” that would allow imposition of martial law

John Lehman — Reagan’s Navy Secretary from 1981 till 1987; claims US is in religious war against “violent, Islamic Fundamentalism”; member 9-11 Omission Commission; PNAC member

Tony Gentry — Army Intelligence and Security Command General Counsel; ordered 2.5 terrabytes of Able Danger data destroyed

Philip Odeen — as director of Program Analysis for the National Security Council, provided staff support to Henry Kissinger from 1971 to 1973; served as Deputy Assistant Secretary of War in Systems Analysis; named to chair the National War Panel in 1997; former president of Reynolds and Reynolds; former CEO and president of BDM International; executive vice president of Washington operations of TRW

Elliot Abrams — former member of PNAC, National Security Council; pleaded guilty in 1991 to lying to Congress about Iran-Contra affair; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; Zionist

Lewis “Scooter” Libby — former PNAC member; studied political science at Yale under Paul Wolfowitz; aid to Cheney; convicted for lying about outing of Valerie Plame; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; Zionist

Jack Abramoff — entertained USG “terrorist” patsy Mohammed Atta on his yacht just before 9-11; convicted criminal lobbyist; ardent Zionist

Jeb Bush — Florida governor on 9-11; declared martial law in Florida four days before 9-11; brother of George Bush; PNAC member; guilty of election fraud in 2000

Rudolph Giuliani — mayor of New York on 9-11; hailed as “hero” for his “gutsy” leadership on 9-11; allegedly involved with FEMA and former NYC Police Chief Kerik in Operation Code Angel

Bernard Kerik — NYC Police Chief on 9-11; “sidekick” of Giuliani; allegedly involved with FEMA in WTC demolition “war games” called Operation Code Angel

Lewis Eisenberg — chairman Port Authority of New York and New Jersey on 9-11; authorized transfer of WTC leases to Silverstein and Lowy just weeks before 9- 11; later appointed chairman of Republican National Committee; Zionist

Eliot Spitzer — New York Attorney General on 9-11; barred his top aide, Deputy Attorney General Dietrich Snell, from testifying to Congress on Able Danger; threw out Karl Schwarz’s 9-11 synopsis

Richard Holbrooke — former US ambassador to UN; CFR member; co- chaired “Independent Task Force on America’s Response to Terrorism” in which the Official Conspiracy Theory (OCT) was promoted

John Deutch — former Undersecretary of War, director of CIA; co-authored paper, “Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy” with Zelikow, Ashton Carter; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America; MIT professor; grandson of Yonah Fischer, Antwerp diamond merchant who ran Zionist Federation of Belgium

Ashton Carter — co-authored paper, “Catastrophic Terrorism: A National Policy” with Zelikow and Deutch; senior partner at Global Technology Partners, an affiliate of Rothschild North America

Michael Ledeen — became “anti-terrorism” advisor to Secretary of State, Al Haig in 1981; contacts with mullahs in Iran-Contra affair; alleged ties to Italian fascist P2 Masonic Lodge; contacts with Libby, Cheney’s Chief of Staff; top NeoCon(vict) advisor to Bush and Karl Rove; member AEI (American Enterprise Institute); wrote book extolling fascism

Abdussattar Shaikh — FBI informant to the San Diego office; helped bring “terrorist” patsies to USA; protected by Attorney General Ashcroft

Abdullah Noman — worked for the US Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia; filed 10- 15 visas for the patsy 9-11 “hijackers” in the Visa Express Program

Daniel Lewin — officer in elite, secret unit of Israeli military called “Sayeret Matkal”; orchestrated activities of Mossad agents in USA before 9-11; was allegedly stabbed or “shot” by highjacker Satam al-Suqami before AA flight 11 crashed into the WTC

Dominic Suter — Mossad agent; his front company, Urban Moving Systems, employed the five Mossad agents caught celebrating in New York on 9-11

Sivan Kurzberg — driver of van belonging to the celebrating Israelis; when stopped by police on 9-11, he said “We are Israelis. We are not your problem. Your problems are our problems. The Palestinians are your problem”

John Gross — one of the lead engineers for the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; denies existence of molten steel at the WTC

Theresa McAllister — edited the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

Ronald Hamburger — structural engineer and Senior Principal at Simpson Gumpertz and Heger consulting engineers in San Francisco; was a principal author of FEMA’s initial report on the collapse of the twin towers; later a key participant in the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

William Baker — member of FEMA Probe Team; partner with Skidmore, Owings, Merrill; contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

Harold Nelson — contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

Ramon Gilsanz — contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed

Shankar Nair — contributed to the flawed NIST report on why the WTC buildings collapsed; quoted in Chicago Tribune, September 19, 2001 that “Already there is near-consensus as to the sequence of events that led to the collapse of the World Trade Center”

Gene Corley — led FEMA/ASCE WTC collapse “investigation”; was the principal investigator for ASCE and FEMA of the 1995 bombing of the Murrah Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City

Paul Mlakar — part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks

Mete Sozen — part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks

Charles Thornton — partner of Richard Tomasetti; told Karl Koch, whose company erected the WTC steel, “Karl, we all know what caused the collapse”; part of ASCE team that investigated both WTC and Murrah Federal building attacks

Richard Tomasetti — partner of Charles Thornton; reportedly behind the unprecedented and widely criticized decision to destroy most of the WTC steel evidence

Victor Ganzi — president and CEO of Hearst Corporation since June 1, 2002; the Hearst publication, Popular Mechanics, has repeatedly tried to debunk the truth of 9-11

Benjamin Chertoff — 25-year-old cousin of Michael Chertoff; senior “researcher” for Popular Mechanics’ hit piece on 9-11 Truth Movement

Kevin Delaney — FAA manager at the New York Air Route Traffic Control Center who destroyed controllers’ tapes of 9-11

Marvin Bush — brother of George Bush; on board of Securacom, US-Kuwaiti company paid $9.2 million to manage WTC security October 1996 to 1998; on board of HCC Insurance, big WTC insurer

Wirt Walker — cousin of George Bush; principal at Securacom, US-Kuwaiti joint- venture that managed security for WTC, United Airlines, and Dulles Airport, all of which figured into 9-11

Larry Silverstein — he and partner Frank Lowy obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; made several billion dollars on 9-11 insurance fraud; admitted to “pulling” WTC 7; Zionist

Frank Lowy — he and partner Larry Silverstein obtained 99-year lease on WTC shortly before 9-11; came to Palestine in 1945 from Hungarian to fight as Golani commando in Israeli “War of Independence”; Australia’s second richest person; in May 2007, investigated by Israeli police for corruption scandal involving Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert; Zionist

David Rockefeller — vice director of the Council on Foreign Relations (1949- 1985), vice president (1950-1970), and chairman (1970-1985); as chairman of the Downtown-Lower Manhattan Association (1958 to 1975) was primary builder of WTC complex; founder and honorary chairman of the Trilateral Commission; president or CEO of Chase Manhattan Bank, 1961 to 1981; 9-11 was the anniversary of 1973 CIA-sponsored coup plotted by David Rockefeller’s cabal and overseen by Nelson’s protégé Henry Kissinger that toppled Chile’s President Salvadore Allende

Nicholas Rockefeller — told film-maker Aaron Russo of coming catastrophic event eleven months before 9-11

Warren Buffett — was hosting golf charity event at the US Strategic Command headquarters at Offutt Air Force Base in Omaha on 9-11 (Bush flew to Offutt afternoon of 9-11); world’s second richest person

Rupert Murdoch — key player in Zionist-controlled corporate media which began the 9-11 cover-up on day one; connected to individuals who privatized and leased WTC just weeks before 9-11; vocal supporter of Zionist extremists Benjamin Netanyahu and Ariel Sharon; honored by leading Zionist organizations such as the Anti-Defamation League (ADL) and the United Jewish Appeal (UJA), in which Silverstein, Lowy, and Eisenberg all hold senior positions; Zionist who tries to hide his Jewish heritage

Maurice Greenberg — CEO of American International Group (AIG) on 9-11 which became co-owner of the “private spy agency”, Kroll Associates, in 1993 and was a major share-holder in Marsh & McClennan whose CEO on 9-11 was Maurice’s son Jeffrey; director of the New York Federal Reserve bank (1988-1995); deputy chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) in 1996; major investor in the Blackstone Group

Jules Kroll — founder of Kroll Corporation, a “security services” company which was in charge of “security” at WTC on 9-11; has close links to CIA and is active private military contractor in Iraq; Zionist

Paul Bremer — Marsh & McClennan executive on 9-11; Chairman of the Congressional National Commission on Terrorism, 1999 to 2000; US Ambassador-at- Large for Counterterrorism, 1986 to 1989; Presidential Envoy to Irag and Adminstrator of the Coaltion Provisional Authority, May 2003 to December 2004

Wallace Hilliard — with Saudi investors including Shiek Kamal Adham, Adnan Khashoggi, and Prince Nawaf bin Abdul Aziz. bought Venice, Florida Huffman Aviation in 1999 where Mohammed Atta and other alleged 9-11 highjackers allegedly learned to fly; flight school linked to CIA firm

Peter Peterson — CEO of the Blackstone Group, parent corporation of one of three lease-holders for WTC 7 on 9-11; also chairman of the CFR and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York on 9-11; CEO of the Institute for International Economics in October 2000

A.B. “Buzzy” Krongard — now number three Executive Director at the CIA; until 1998, managed firm used to place “put options” on United Airlines which has left $2.5 million in “profits” unclaimed

Mark Loizeaux — as CEO of CDI was instrumental in “recycling” steel from WTC crime scene; CDI also buried the rubble from the crime scene of the Murrah Federal Building

Loring Knoblauch — CEO of Underwriters Labs; said that jet fuel fires were not “reasonably foreseeable”; resigned suddenly in August 2004 after UL performed tests of WTC floor models where floors did not collapse and were barely affected

Michael Cherkasky — CEO of Kroll on 9-11; former investigator in the Manhattan DA’s Office from 1978 to 1994; now CEO of insurance-firm Marsh & McClennan

Frank Carlucci — former Secretary of War; affiliated with PNAC; served as chairman of the Carlyle Group (1992-2003); on BoD of BDM International

William Kristol — PNAC co-founder; adherent of Leo Strauss; editor of The Weekly Standard; strong advocate of the Iraq war; “dual citizen” of US and Israel; Zionist

William Perry — former Secretary of War; associated with the Rothschild’s banking empire through Global Technology, a Rothschild affiliate

James Woolsey — former CIA director; PNAC member; claims “incompetence” was reason for 9-11

Newt Gingrich — former Speaker of the House; PNAC member; reputed to be a member of the CFR; served on the Pentagon’s War Policy Board

Henry Kissinger — long criminal history; wanted for war crimes in several countries; sat on War Policy Board under Perle; chosen to lead 9-11 Cover-Up Omission Commission; “dual citizen” of US and Israel

George H.W. Bush — Bush crime family Don; Skull and Bones; CIA operative involved in JFK assassination; former head of CIA; son of friend shot Reagan when he was VP; war profiteer

Tony Blair — British Prime Minister on 9-11; ally and partner in crime of George Bush; London 7-7 bombings were also “false flag” operation

Pauline Neville-Jones — International Governor of BBC on 9-11; Chairman of UK Joint Intelligence Committee (1991-1994); Chairman of QinetiQ Group, a war technology company with government customers in UK and USA; Chairman of Information Assurance Advisory Council (IAAC)

Mahmoud Ahmad — head of Pakistan’s ISI; had Ahmed Omar Saeed Sheikh wire $100,000 to lead 9-11 “terrorist” patsy Mohammad Atta

Benjamin Netanyahu — former Israeli Prime Minister; said 9-11 was “good” for US- Israeli relationship; in NYC on 9-11 and in London on 7-7 bombings

Ariel Sharon — Israeli Prime Minister on 9-11; heavy Mossad involvement in 9-11 (200 Israeli intelligence agents rounded up after 9-11, five Mossad agents arrested filming and celebrating WTC collapses, employees of Mossad-operated company at WTC notified hours before plane hit) implicates Sharon; infamous Zionist terrorist and war criminal; now said to be comatose

Mark

“Fascism should more appropriately be called Corporatism because it is a merger of state and corporate power” ― Benito Mussolini

Kamala  posted on  2012-09-18   8:30:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: All (#25)

the mismatched engine at Murray St. in New York

Click here to start video at 4:53 -- John Lear explains why that engine is planted evidence.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-18   13:48:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Ask Morgan Reynolds

I’ve got a question about 9/11 concerning the various people who rolled out the official government storyline on TV that day. To what degree did they understand what was happening? In other words, which reporters and witnesses do you think were “in on it?”

[sic]

if I were a prosecutor I would form a grand jury and begin making arrests of media personnel and witnesses on relevant fraud and conspiracy charges, grill them as best I could, expose their contradictions and lies, break ‘em down and make a case against. Who was “in on it” based on initial evidence? I would start with these fake eye witness accounts:

Sean Murtagh, CNN Vice President of Finance, conveniently called in the first report to CNN claiming a (fictional) airliner flew by him at 5 Penn Plaza and crashed into the WTC North Tower, one of the modest few in NYC that morning to claim such an event happened and thereby good ol’ Sean hardwired the airliner flight 11 myth into the American psyche.

The next day the media acquired the Naudet brothers or so-called firefighter (six-second) video, thereby cementing the fiction that an airliner crashed into the North Tower.

Beginning with Sean M. the media on 9/11 interviewed other (alleged) eyewitness media to sell the airliner fiction. It was a nicely controlled situation, including the following: [My note: haven't read all of the report cards below yet]

Rose Marie Arce, CNN producer:
http://911logic.blogspot.com/2006/12/911-eyewitness-report-cards.html

Theresa Renaud, wife of CBS Early Show producer Jack Renaud:
http://911logic.blogspot.com/2006/12/911-eyewitness-report-cards_05.html

Don Dahler, ABC correspondent:
http://911logic.blogspot.com/2006/12/911-eyewitness-report-cards_12.html

Kai Simonsen, alleged Fox News reporter:
http://911logic.blogspot.com/2006/12/911-eyewitness-report-cards_16.html

Then we have other lyin’ 9/11 eyewitnesses to interview in a most hostile manner like Stanley Praimnath and the Harley T-shirt guy (actor, “Fox freelancer”) Mark Humphrey. So I would take a “bottom-up” approach to prosecuting the corporate media for selling the 9/11 lie rather than beginning at the top with media CEOs.

As Still Diggin’ sums up, “When I began to look into the background of the ‘eyewitnesses’ who ‘called in’ to the various networks, I invariably found that even those people who appeared to be ‘common folk’ were anything but. They were either tied to the media or big business.”

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-18   14:17:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: All (#43)

Winter Patriot Meet Jerome Hauer, 9-11 Suspect Awaiting Indictment

Strangely, perhaps, this is not the first time questions of prior knowledge have surfaced in Jerome Hauer's wake.

Jerome Hauer joined New York City's Office of Emergency Management (OEM) in 1998 and quickly obtained funding from the office of then-mayor Rudy Giuliani for the study of West Nile virus. The following year the virus appeared in the city, and Jerome Hauer led the fumigation effort.

Strangely, perhaps, John O'Neill was lured to the WTC position by his old friend Jerome Hauer, Managing Director of Kroll.

9-11 Israel’s Masterpiece Lost Scribe Media

Jerome Hauer was conspicuously absent on the fateful Tuesday. He was very busy on 9/11 in the aftermath, giving interviews about Bin Laden’s role in the attack and how the towers fell from structural weakening due to fires, both key points of the public mythology that persists to this day, far outpacing the official fairytale. A true insider.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-18   14:27:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Turtle, *9-11* (#37)

Pentagon Attack Witnesses

Consider the following list of self-described witnesses:

Gary Bauer, Paul Begala, Bobby Eberle, Mike Gerson, Alfred Regnery, and Greta Van Susteren. Many of them need no introduction, but let's run through the list anyway: Gary Bauer: Talking head and former Republican presidential candidate who has been linked to the notorious Project for a New American Century. Paul Begala: Democratic Party operative and nominally liberal punching bag on CNN's "Crossfire." Bobby Eberle: President and CEO of GOPUSA, a portal of right-wing propaganda. Mike Gerson: Director of George W. Bush's speech writing staff. Alfred Regnery: President of Regnery Publishing, another portal of right-wing propaganda -- one that has seen fit to bestow upon the world the literary stylings of Ann Coulter, the Swift Boat Veterans, and numerous other accomplished liars. Greta Van Susteren: Nominally liberal legal analyst for Fox News.

All of the people on that list share at least one thing in common: they are all professional liars. It is their job, individually and collectively, to lie to the American people. On a daily basis. They are, by any objective appraisal, propagandists for the state. So if all of them are selling the same story, in the face of compelling evidence to the contrary, it is probably best to assume that they might not be telling the truth.

Let's take a look now at some of the other people that are hawking the same story: Dennis Clem, Penny Elgas, Albert Hemphill, Lincoln Leibner, Stephen McGraw, Mitch Mitchell, Patty Murray, Rick Renzi, James Robbins, Meseidy Rodriguez, Darb Ryan, Elizabeth Smiley, and Clyde Vaughn. And who are they? Allow me to handle the introductions:

Dennis Clem is a Deputy Director of the Defense Intelligence Agency. Penny Elgas sits on the FDIC Advisory Committee on Banking Policy, alongside of Jean Baker, who just happens to be the Chief of Staff at the Office of President George H.W. Bush. Albert Hemphill is a Lt. General with the Ballistic Missile Defense Organization. Captain (now Major) Lincoln Leibner is a communications officer for Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld. Stephen McGraw is a former U.S. Department of Justice attorney reborn as an Opus Dei priest. Colonel Mitch Mitchell serves as a CBS News war spinner military consultant. Patty Murray is a United States Senator (D-Washington). Rick Renzi is a United States Congressman (R-Arizona). James Robbins is a contributor to National Review, a national security analyst, and a Senior Fellow at the American Foreign Policy Council

I'm not sure exactly who Meseidy Rodriguez is, but his name appears in legal filings concerning Dick Cheney's top-secret energy policy meetings, which probably isn't a good sign.

[sic]

Having established that, let's now take a look at who our group of mystery witnesses are (or who they were at the time of the Pentagon attack):

Bob Dubill was the executive editor for USA Today. Mary Ann Owens was a journalist for Gannett. Richard Benedetto was a reporter for USA Today. Christopher Munsey was a reporter for Navy Times. Vin Narayanan was a reporter for USA Today. Joel Sucherman was a multimedia editor for USA Today. Mike Walter was a reporter for USA Today. Steve Anderson was the director of communications for USA Today. Fred Gaskins was the national editor for USA Today. Mark Faram was a reporter for Navy Times.

Is it just me, or does anyone else detect a pattern here?

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-18   14:34:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: All (#45)

Excerpts from: 9-11 Israel’s Masterpiece - Lost Scribe Media

In a September 23, 1979 interview with crypto-jew Michael D Evans, Isser Harel, “father of Israeli intelligence”, gave chilling, prescient details of the ghastly plot of the Islamic terrorists blamed for 9/11 almost as if the script was laid out before him… And he was the author. [My note: Details at the site.]

How did Harel learn the intricate details of the fundamentalist jihadist psyche, so much so, that he could derive a vivid prophecy of a cataclysmic event with global reverberations decades later? We trust the judgment of the reader to draw conclusions from that.

Philip Zelikow, another Zionist prophet, unrelenting in his support of Israel, penned an article for foreign affairs in 1998, “Catastrophic Terrorism: Imagining the Transformative Event” which envisioned an act of terrorism which “could involve loss of life and property unprecedented in peacetime and undermine America’s fundamental sense of security as did the Soviet atomic bomb test in 1949. The United States might respond with draconian measures, scaling back civil liberties, allowing wider surveillance of citizens, detention of suspects and use of deadly force. More violence could follow, either further terrorist attacks or US counterattacks. Belatedly, Americans would judge their leaders negligent for not addressing terrorism more urgently” How’s that for a prophecy?

Philip Zelikow’s elite role in the presentation of 9/11 didn’t end there. After NWO architect and notable jewish extremist Henry Kissinger passed on it, Zelikow was “appointed” the Executive Director of the 9/11 Commission which published a fairytale known as the 9/11 Commission Report. This elaborate propaganda didn’t address any of the questions raised by the non-investigation and other theatric anomalies, most notably the 11 living hijackers and the free fall collapse of building 7, the most galvanizing evidence used by the 9/11 Truth Movement.

The 9/11 Commission was aided in the cover-up by the National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST). Most specifically, Stephen Cauffman, another Zionist jew, became the lead investigator of the collapse at NIST and the primary author of a nonsensical paper whitewashing, in excruciating detail, the impossible free-fall collapse due to fires.

Alvin Hellerstein is tied to 9/11 directly in his role as head gatekeeper on all 9/11 claims, preventing legal discovery, wrongful death and personal injury lawsuits from trial. Judge Hellerstein is also intimately connected to other key Israeli players of the 9/11 massacre on multiple layers through his son, Joseph. Joseph Hellerstein worked for an Israeli law firm, Amit, Pollack and Matalon, which represented ICTS, the Israeli firm implicated in the attacks via passenger screening and airline security at Newark, Boston Logan, and Dulles, the departure sites of the hijacked aircraft.

ICTS is owned by two Israelis, Ezra Harel and Menachem Atzmon, who was convicted in Israel of fraud with partner and mayor of Jerusalem, Ehud Olmert. Olmert later became prime minister of Israel. Olmert incidentally also made a secret trip to meet with then mayor of NYC, Rudy Guiliani on the eve of 9/11, ostensibly to oversee their plot. He and other Israeli officials were allowed to leave the US aboard an El Al plane when all other planes were grounded on 9/11. ICTS was implicated in the 7/7 bombings in London as well.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-18   14:44:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: All (#46)

New York's Terrorism Task Force Predicted Terrorists Crashing Planes Into the World Trade Center Before 9/11

Why Were U.S. Intelligence Facilities in an 'Information Void' During the 9/11 Attacks?

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-18   14:48:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: FormerLurker (#39) (Edited)

Out of the list you posted, only ONE claims to have seen "faces" of the passengers. His name is James R. Cissell.

You claimed "dozens of people" saw the plane fly into the Pentagon, and they saw the terrified looks on the passengers' faces.

So a whole whopping ONE witness said that. I think there could be a chance, don't you think, that HE is lying?

I'm sure the witnesses saw some type of aircraft. But NOT so close to them that they could see the passenger's faces.

You're a mental case. All those people saw the plane fly into the Pentagon, and all can do is point-and-sputter, LIAR! LIAR! LIAR!

Just as I predicted.

BTW,9-11 was done by Arabs seeking revenge on the U.S. for 60 years of humiliation. There were no remote-controlled airplanes or explosives in the buildings, and I will give you and anyone else 10,000 years to prove otherwise.

I sense a disturbance in the farce. Much gnashing will ensue.

Turtle  posted on  2012-09-18   17:16:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Turtle (#48)

So Turtle, do you seriously claim that a flight school washout could fly a 757 at over 500 mph with the wings several feet over the Pentagon lawn, without scraping the lawn one bit, and flying with the nose level into the Pentagon ground floor (oddly enough where the records of that missing 2.3 TRILLION DOLLARS went where located)?

Do you honestly believe that 19 arabs, some of whom are still alive, could engineer a coordinated plot in sync with US wargames that morning to baffle NORAD and everyone else as to what was going on and where they were?

Can you say with a straight face that those WTC towers "fell" into their own footprint at (WTC7) or near (WTC1&2) free fall speed without the use of controlled demolition?

Are you claiming that those arabs made those Israelis drive a van filled with "tons" of explosives onto the George Washington Bridge onramp, or that they made those Israelis blow up a van on King Street, NYC, the morning of 9/11/2001?

As far as your ONE witness who claims to have "seen the faces of the terrified passengers" on Flight 77 approaching the Pentagon, I'd say he's about as full of it as you are.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-18   18:56:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: GreyLmist (#45)

Is it just me, or does anyone else detect a pattern here?

Look all the jews say the Arabs did it, so go chop wood and fetch water for the chosen ones and shut up already.

That is the MSM 's view of things.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-18   22:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: GreyLmist (#46)

He and other Israeli officials were allowed to leave the US aboard an El Al plane when all other planes were grounded on 9/11.

See, they are the Chosen Ones, so get off the net you lazy goy and start chopping wood for your masters.

They don't have much patience for you animals, so get with it and become part of G d's plan. Or are you with the deamon??

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-18   22:32:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Turtle (#48)

only ONE claims to have seen "faces" of the passengers. His name is James R. Cissel

I have a very difficult time with people on the ground seeing faces of people in a jet liner with 18 inch windows in a plane going fast.

It really seems like utter HFCS ( High Fructose Corn Syrup)for the gullible masses.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-18   22:46:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Turtle (#48)

There were no remote-controlled airplanes or explosives in the buildings, and I will give you and anyone else 10,000 years to prove otherwise.

Yes and with Eric Holder as AG of the US it will take about that long.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-18   22:48:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Turtle, all (#48)

BTW,9-11 was done by Arabs seeking revenge on the U.S. for 60 years of humiliation. There were no remote-controlled airplanes or explosives in the buildings, and I will give you and anyone else 10,000 years to prove otherwise.

there you have it folks, straight from a pug lover. so I reckon the issue is settled.

maybe you can get one of your pugs to slip into the vault where all the surveillance camera footage is stashed, snag the film and give us a look-see at the moving pictures of a plane hitting the pentagon.


If either Moromney or Mammyjammyobammy win the November (s)election peoples with common sense will pray that December 21 2012 will indeed be the end of the world!

IRTorqued  posted on  2012-09-18   23:39:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Cynicom (#5)

We need to focus on WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW.

You are right.

"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan

Prefrontal Vortex  posted on  2012-09-19   13:23:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Cynicom, wakeup (#5) (Edited)

We need to focus on WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW.

Thing is, what is happening NOW is a direct result of the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the attack on the USS Liberty, the Gulf War, Waco, OKC, 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc., etc., etc..

Out of all of those, 9/11 is the event with the MOST evidence of high level treason that affects us directly, yet there is ample evidence in all of the above listed events to prove government wrong doing, while at the same time it lies about what truly went on.

If you care to think logically, there are plenty of really good reasons why we SHOULD look into the facts, pass the word around, and make it known what IS known. It is only by doing so ENOUGH people will say ENOUGH.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."
- George Santayana ...


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-19   14:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: titorite (#34)

Norad would be your "who"

Ahmadinejad was right. The U.S. (and Israel) were behind the events of 9-11. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-19   16:42:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: FormerLurker (#56)

It is only by doing so ENOUGH people will say ENOUGH.

But, will they get mad enouogh to do something about it? ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-19   16:44:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: BTP Holdings, *9-11*, *No Planers* (#30)

9-11 was a NORAD test that went live. It was all controlled. The USG flew a 747 from Hawaii to Australia with NO pilot on board. Those jets were NEVER hijacked. They were flown into the towers by another aircraft.

Remote control could not ensure that a plane (civilian, military, or drone) wouldn't break apart outside of the buildings on impact (endangering people on the street, leaving contradictory evidence behind, and messing up the cover story for the destruction of the Towers) but CGI could.

Why They Didn't Use Planes To Hit The WTC

Interesting info there on "virtual" news and False Images In Broadcasts; also in the Comments section on PVI L-VIS computer imagery.

Another recommended article (and the discussions too in the Comments section):

'Real-World or Exercise': Did the U.S. Military Mistake the 9-11 Attacks for a Training Scenario? - Excerpts

Major General Larry Arnold, the commander of the Continental United States NORAD Region on September 11: "we do do hijacking scenarios as we go through these exercises from time to time." [15]

EXERCISES INCLUDED MOCK TV NEWS REPORTS

It is known that simulated television news reports had been used in training exercises before 9/11. For example, a two-day exercise was held at Andrews Air Force Base, Maryland, in June 2001, called "Dark Winter," based on the scenario of a smallpox attack on the United States. This exercise, according to New York magazine, included "simulated news clips from an imaginary cable news network called NCN."

It has been reported that volunteers taking part in another military exercise on the morning of September 11 did incorrectly think that television coverage of the attacks in New York was video footage created for their exercise. That exercise, called "Timely Alert II," was held at Fort Monmouth, an Army base about 50 miles south of New York City, and was based around a simulated biochemical terrorist attack at the base. Exercise participants later recalled that "when they first saw live footage of the events unfolding at the World Trade Center, they thought it was some elaborate training video to accompany the exercise." One training officer was told by a participant, "You really outdid yourself this time." [49]

Article comment from someone who claims to have been on duty at Boston Center that day: "no one can put sim targets on the FAA scopes." [...] training scopes are completely tied off of our live system.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-20   0:37:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: All (#59)

Why They Didn't Use Planes To Hit The WTC

Article comment excerpt:

EVEN if the Government's bogus cover story was somehow magically RIGHT and real planes brought those towers down...Rudy Guiliani would STILL be guilty of a MAJOR CRIME against this nation because he destroyed the evidence...and we've done absolutely NOTHING about it.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-09-20   0:46:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: BTP Holdings (#31) (Edited)

The five dancing Israelis who were filming the planes (in New Jersey) hitting the towers implies foreknowledge of the day's events

Their triumphant behavior indicates they planted the demolition explosives (plus explosives residue found in their van).

Tatarewicz  posted on  2012-09-20   0:57:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: tom007 (#50)

Look all the jews say the Arabs did it,

It could be that prior to 9/11 Israel convinced the Saudis to go along with this false flag as a means of getting America to dispose of Saddam who the Saudis also considered a threat. This way the Israelis would have a scapegoat setup at whom fingers could be pointed. The Saudis are just Jews in an Arab cloak.

http://www.fortunecity.com/boozers/bridge/632/history.html

Tatarewicz  posted on  2012-09-20   1:21:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: GreyLmist (#43)

Dick Cheney — former PNAC member; former chairman of CFR; guilty of war profiteering, treason; was in bunker on 9-11 directing several “war games”;

9-11 was a war game gone hot. It was directed by NORAD.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-20   16:26:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: FormerLurker (#56)

hing is, what is happening NOW is a direct result of the JFK assassination, the Vietnam War, the attack on the USS Liberty, the Gulf War, Waco, OKC, 9/11, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, etc., etc., etc..

Out of all of those, 9/11 is the event with the MOST evidence of high level treason that affects us directly, yet there is ample evidence in all of the above listed events to prove government wrong doing, while at the same time it lies about what truly went on.

If you care to think logically, there are plenty of really good reasons why we SHOULD look into the facts, pass the word around, and make it known what IS known. It is only by doing so ENOUGH people will say ENOUGH.

I have similar thoughts.

The US had a coup with JFK.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-20   19:44:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: tom007 (#64)

The US had a coup with JFK.

Exactly. Prior to that event there was SOME semblance of a government which served the people and worked in their best interests.

From that day on things have gone downhill, and those who took the reigns of power from the JFK administration have never reliquenshed it to those who would reverse the trend.

The Internet has provided a means of exploring the past and seeing not only where we are today, but how we got here. As they say, "knowledge is power".

It'll take more than a few of us to make a difference, but the more we can spread the facts as to what actually took place, the greater our chances of changing our future for the better.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-20   21:11:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: FormerLurker (#65)

From that day on things have gone downhill, and those who took the reigns of power from the JFK administration have never reliquenshed it to those who would reverse the trend.

Why would they - they got away with it.

Like 9-11.

Israel's hands are all over 9-11.

And like you have said it demonstrates the level of infiltration in "our" government.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-21   10:00:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: tom007 (#66)

Israel's hands are all over 9-11.

How many other foreign nationals could get away with driving a van filled with tons of explosives onto the George Washington Bridge on 9/11/2001 soon after the WTC attacks took place?

That right there is prima facie evidence of high level treason, and involvement in the 9/11 attacks themselves, since those Mossad agents were released without charges due to pressure from the highest levels of our own government.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-09-21   13:03:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: GreyLmist (#59)

'Real-World or Exercise': Did the U.S. Military Mistake the 9-11 Attacks for a Training Scenario?

I had information from Ursella Grand Pre, the widow of the author, Donn, who wrote the Barbarians Inside the Gates series of books (four in all). She told me that 9-11 was a NORAD test that went live.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-22   14:55:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: tom007, FormerLurker (#67)

Israel's hands are all over 9-11.

The five dancing Isralis are prima facie evidence of foreknowldge of the day's events.

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-22   14:58:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: FormerLurker (#67)

That right there is prima facie evidence of high level treason, and involvement in the 9/11 attacks themselves, since those Mossad agents were released without charges due to pressure from the highest levels of our own government.

What other conclusion is possible?

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-22   15:04:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Tatarewicz (#62)

The Saudis are just Jews in an Arab cloak.

Easy to say this. Lawrence of Arabia would vehemently disagree with you. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-22   15:05:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: BTP Holdings (#69)

So a van full of explosives was found with Israels in it, and then it was exploded in front of hundreds of folks and this isn't news?

Who brags that they control the US news media?

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-22   15:07:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: BTP Holdings (#71)

Easy to say this. Lawrence of Arabia would vehemently disagree with you. ;)

That's what I'm thinking.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-09-22   15:09:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: tom007 (#72)

Who brags that they control the US news media?

The media was in the pocket of the fascist states. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2012-09-22   15:12:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: GreyLmist (#43)

There is a lot of truth in your post.

The U.S. has been using remote piloted control of aircraft since WW II. They have refined it and it was used on 9-11 to fly those planes into the Twin Towers. Average people do not know this at all. The media was in cahoots with the gooberment on all of it.

There is a DJ I know (will not give his name or location) that is working on trying to foment a new revolution if the Feds try to take our guns using the U.N. as a front. This is what Obama wants to do. ;)

"When bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one." Edmund Burke

BTP Holdings  posted on  2013-05-18   13:59:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Hint! Who benefited.

“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele

“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb

“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm

Hmmmmm  posted on  2013-05-18   15:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Itistoolate (#0)

Jews. Not all "Jews" are bad of course, but overall, their allegiance to Satan and their means of causing all this terror has been documented before in the past and they will continue to be a problem until they are stopped.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2013-05-18   15:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Humor break (#76)

A Catholic nun was sitting on a train opposite a Muslim man wearing a turban who was eating fresh shrimp.

Every time he ate one he spat the tail in her direction requiring her to deflect it. He finished the box and threw it out the window.

Seeing this she had had enough and pulled the train's emergency cord.

The Muslim looked at her and said, "You'll get fined $250 for doing that you stupid worthless infidel Catholic bitch."

She laughed and said, "When I cry rape and they smell your fingers you'll get 30 years you towel-headed camel-fucking litter-bug."

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-18   17:50:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: All (#78)

the reason for hi-capacity weapons -

A man walked into his crowded local bar, waved a revolver around and yelled,

"Who in here has been screwing my wife?"

A voice from the back of the bar yelled back,

"You're gonna need more ammo!"

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2013-05-18   17:52:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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