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Title: 911 What Happened - Not How It Happened - Dr Judy Wood
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URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gFW-sZrmSs
Published: Nov 16, 2012
Author: Judy Wood
Post Date: 2012-11-16 10:10:44 by Horse
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#15. To: GreyLmist (#14)

Pitiful! The woman is selling a book now? Why don't you rush out and get your copy personally signed by this nut. Her own students in her class describe her as a moron. She has the credentials, but she lacks the intelligence and the evidence to be anything other than a disinfo agent.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-11-22   23:31:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: FormerLurker (#8)

That Kinetic energy would not pulverize a million tons before it hit the ground. Nanothermite and C4 do not have enough energy to do what they did on mid-air.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2012-11-23   3:21:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: RickyJ (#15) (Edited)

she lacks the intelligence and the evidence to be anything other than a disinfo agent.

She lacks neither. And what's your remote control "evidence" again? That the technology has been in existence for quite some time and Dov Zakheim is a profiteer in that field? As we know, Directed Energy technology is not new. The difference between her evidence and yours is that remote control doesn't explain the destruction of the Towers, nor does Jones' thermitic theories. The observed evidence does support her WMD theory and that implicates some other names too, like Boeing and Raytheon and affiliates. Zakheim is still a Financial/PNAC/War Profiteering suspect.

Edited typos.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-11-23   15:29:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: GreyLmist (#17) (Edited)

All you really have to know to know that there was no "directed energy" weapon used on the WTC towers on 9/11/2001 is the fact that there were survivors of the towers collapse. Any directed energy weapon capable of pulverizing concrete and turning industrial strength steel specifically manufactured for use in sky scrapers into "dust" would ensure that there would be no survivors.

Yet, I predict you will ignore this fact and keep pushing the "directed energy" weapon caused the destruction of the WTC towers despite facts and evidence directly contradicting it.

By all means, keep pushing scenarios that lack facts and evidence and you will earn your salary as a 9/11 disinfo agent.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-11-23   15:47:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: FormerLurker (#9)

So why should I care, when apparently, many of those who proclaim themselves "truthers" don't?

Real Truthers ALWAYS CARE. Always. We can not give up, we do not forget, we get to the bottom of things and we share what we learn and you can take it or leave it.

Getting to know the truth is about setting ourselves free.

We share the information that others maybe free as well.

We do all this because we care a great deal.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-23   15:48:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: titorite (#19)

Well said - thanks.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-11-23   16:16:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Lod (#20)

Ah, but the problem is titorite doesn't care about the truth. He ignores strong facts and evidence that indicates what most likely happened on 9/11 and pushes the highly improbable that lacks facts and evidence when there no reason to do so.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-11-23   16:56:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: RickyJ (#21)

You're wrong - he cares greatly about learning the truth.

No one knows exactly what happened on 911. (Except those who committed it.)

All we know is that fedcorp's story is a total lie, just like most everything else that they tell us.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-11-23   17:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: RickyJ (#21) (Edited)

Ah, but the problem is titorite doesn't care about the truth. He ignores strong facts and evidence that indicates what most likely happened on 9/11 and pushes the highly improbable that lacks facts and evidence when there no reason to do so.

No amount of profanity I have ever used will match the vulgarity you have posted above.

First of all Facts are neither strong nor weak. They are true statements. That is the definition of a fact: A truth.

Regardless of how improbable it may seem.

And once you have the facts their is no reason not to share them... or, for that matter, their is no reason not to share our speculations as well.

Because, thats all we have right? Our speculations... And their is nothing wrong with talking about it and sharing our hypothesis....So why on gods green earth would anyone , let alone truthers, want to stop anyone from sharing their speculations?

For what does it benefit one human to tell the other human to "shut up" and not talk about it?

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-23   17:31:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Horse (#0)

I liked her emphasis on maintaining a distance from speculation and cultivating basis in what know, that we know, that we know.

It may sound funny to some but I'm sure all the right people get it.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-23   18:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Horse (#16)

That Kinetic energy would not pulverize a million tons before it hit the ground. Nanothermite and C4 do not have enough energy to do what they did on mid-air.

Not to be facetious Horse, but how do you KNOW this to be fact? Did you calculate all the necessary factors, and arrive at your determination through science, or is this just a "hunch"?

How many OTHER 110 story skyscrapers have been demolished in this way in order to compare the effects? Have you ever actually SEEN a "regular" controlled demolition?

Look at the following video and then come back and tell my they used "directed energy beams" to accomplish what you saw.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   18:29:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Lod, RickyJ, All (#22)

All we know is that fedcorp's story is a total lie, just like most everything else that they tell us.

Yes, WE all know that. HOWEVER, with the more wild, unsubstantiated, "truther" stories out there, which CAN be scientifically and factually dismissed since the evidence proves them to be untrue, those who DON'T know, or are on the fence concerning what may have happened that day, assume ALL "truthers" are uneducated crackpots who'll believe ANYTHING.

And that certainly doesn't do any good for the cause of TRUTH.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   18:33:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: GreyLmist, RickyJ (#17)

As we know, Directed Energy technology is not new.

Please list any known type of directed energy weapons which can bring down a 110 story skyscraper.

By "directed energy", do you mean laser, charged particle beam, neutral beam? What exactly IS this weapon you think brought down the towers?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   18:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: titorite (#23)

For what does it benefit one human to tell the other human to "shut up" and not talk about it?

when did this conversation wander into the role of the media?


Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?

farmfriend  posted on  2012-11-23   18:41:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: FormerLurker (#26)

Like you, I've read and viewed it all.

I wouldn't dismiss neutron bombs to smoke the towers.

I really don't know, and don't dismiss anything.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-11-23   18:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: titorite, Lod, RickyJ (#19)

Real Truthers ALWAYS CARE. Always. We can not give up, we do not forget, we get to the bottom of things and we share what we learn and you can take it or leave it.

Each and every time I have attempted to present facts when conversing with you in regards to the 9/11 attacks, you have attacked me with a barrage of profantities and insults, along with wild claims with no basis in fact.

Seems to me if you actually cared about what the TRUTH was, you wouldn't behave in that manner.

Since you must have guessed by now I had bozo'd you, apparently you thought you'd play the nice guy in speaking to my handle, trying to score some "points". You're just the gift that keeps on giving.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   18:45:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: FormerLurker (#30)

I have never profaned you.

Nor any other member here.

Get a grip.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-11-23   18:48:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Lod (#29) (Edited)

I wouldn't dismiss neutron bombs to smoke the towers.

Lod, do you know what a neutron bomb is designed to do?

It is designed to kill as many people as possible with radiation, while leaving infrastructure intact as much as possible.

Basically, it is an anti-personel device, designed to be used if it was determined that it would be best to anhilate a population, while leaving their city largely untouched.

It would be the opposite of the sort of weapon that would be necessary to destroy a structure where it was desired to produce little or no lethal radiation.

If a neutron bomb HAD been detonated on 9/11 in NYC, thousands of people, perhaps 10's of thousands or more, would have been dead within hours if they were anywhere near the WTC area when it happened.

Additionally, since we are talking about a nuclear device, there would have been a HUGE EMP, frying any electronic equipment in the vicinity, AND, there would have been a VERY bright flash of light from the towers as the detonation occured, along with a massive burst of debris emanating from the location of the detonation. The towers would not have nor could not have collapsed from the top down as they did.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   18:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Lod (#31)

I have never profaned you.

Nor any other member here.

Get a grip.

I was addressing the post to titorite, and just included you in the ping list so that you saw it.

If you doubt what I say, just do a search of posts from titorite to myself. He was especially vile in the 9/11 thread concerning switching aircraft.

I could give you some links if you prefer.

You could also check his posts to RickyJ in that same thread. It wasn't just me who was getting piled on.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   18:55:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Lod, RickyJ (#31)

Get a grip.

And THIS is exactly what meant earlier when I said I am really starting to NOT care about 9/11 any longer, as this exchange proves just how easy it is for someone with ill intent to paint their target as the bad guy, and those who I personally trusted and looked up to, such as yourself, fall for it.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   18:59:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: farmfriend (#28)

when did this conversation wander into the role of the media?

LOL! Ah, Our beloved media. May no one ever claim they informed us.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-23   19:56:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: FormerLurker, lod, GreyLmist, wudidiz, RickyJ, horse, itistoolate, christine, all, Ping, pang walla walla bing bang. (#30)

Each and every time I have attempted to present facts when conversing with you in regards to the 9/11 attacks, you have attacked me with a barrage of profantities and insults, along with wild claims with no basis in fact.

Seems to me if you actually cared about what the TRUTH was, you wouldn't behave in that manner.

Since you must have guessed by now I had bozo'd you, apparently you thought you'd play the nice guy in speaking to my handle, trying to score some "points". You're just the gift that keeps on giving.

FormerLurker,

That is the weirdest.... weakest... lamest attempt at a conversation twist and guilt redirection.

I have no clue nor interest in what you do with your settings.

In fact I am tired of addressing you because when ever we converse the subject always seems to stray from 911 and into personal nit pickings. And While I can quote where I have said I was mistaken and what not...whats the point?

Instead of making this about me and you or you vrs the world or any other nonesense thing, instead , how about we talk about what we know.... and what this thread is about.

We know we have all kinds of DEW weapons. D.A.P.A.R. doesn't make wicker baskets. It makes military advancements. It is completely possible DEW weapons were used. They existed at that time... nothing being put forward in this interview was fringe. Ms, Woods even stressed avoiding speculation and grounding our conclusions in what can be proven by peer reviewed... PEER REVIEWED.

Peer Review Definition Dec 26, 2005 ... Peer review is the evaluation of creative work or performance by other people in the same field in order to maintain or enhance the quality

So we can see she is not afraid of having her worked double checked and debunked.

To do that though FIRST you must know exactly what it is we are talking about...what the fruits of her labour has been, in said peer review paper.

If you have issue with her findings the point out her work exactly and speak up on what your exact boggle is with her work. And I stress "her" here because I am not wanting to know about the work of others by comparisons. I am familer(sp) with other peoples research. Specifically , if you find flaw in Woods work , I would like to keep it about her work and where you find any issue in it...

Sound good?

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-23   20:18:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: titorite (#36)

We know we have all kinds of DEW weapons

Name me ONE which can bring down a 110 story skyscraper.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   20:20:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: titorite, christine, tom007, RickyJ, *9-11* (#36)

D.A.P.A.R. doesn't make wicker baskets

You don't even know how to spell it. It's called DARPA.

BTW, there IS no reason why any exotic device would have been necessary to bring down the towers as witnessed.

A controlled sequence of detonations using C4 cutting charges, enhanced perhaps with the addition of nano-thermite, would easily have collapsed floors below the point of collapse, causing the upper structure to pulverize the weakened floors below it as it fell, resulting in a near free fall collapse.

Precision timing achieved by computer control would have been all that was necessary to accomplish the task.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   20:28:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: All, *9-11* (#36)

Concerning Dr. Judy Wood, she herself had explained the collapse as being of sequential failure, and proved how and why that is so.

It's bizarre that she hop on this "directed energy beam" tale, when her own research proves that it was a sequential collapse due to elimination of each floor under the collapsing structure.

A Refutation of the Official Collapse Theory - Dr. Judy Wood


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   20:41:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: FormerLurker (#38)

A controlled sequence of detonations using C4 cutting charges, enhanced perhaps with the addition of nano-thermite,

Something pulverized the concrete, in sequence, and it wasn't a pancaking building from ten stories above.

We are total FOOLS for going along with this shit. There I said it.

Why does not the government open an investigation into this.......

O yeh.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-11-23   20:45:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: FormerLurker (#37)

Name me ONE which can bring down a 110 story skyscraper.

Just one? I have the internet at my disposal. I could name dozens upon dozens in both practical and plausible to the theoretical yet applicable...

High intensity Laser,microwave resonance, perhaps a micro kinetic pellet...I mean, how much do you know about coil guns? Or DEW weapons in general? Are you intimate with the wide range of subject matter and what is in use?

Now, you brought up my miss spelling of D.A.R.P.A. . Was their a reason you did not use proper punctuation of the acronym? Not to split hairs here but this was the exact kind of nit pick bull shit I spoke to earlier. Everyone knew what I meant even you...but only you sought to call it out as if it were a relevant point. Our grammar and minor mistakes their in and of, is irrelevant to the topic at hand. Ms. Judy Woods and her interview here and her work. Try not to detract by distraction but rather , help us stick with the topic at hand. Please.

I'll try hard too.

:)

As for their being no reason for DEW weapons being involved.... well... that is kinda what this interview is about.. and her work... and this whole entire topic that is being discussed.... and you still have not spoken to any flaw or failing you find in her work. You offer alternative theories and that is all well and good but you do not cite what you find to be incorrect , point by point.

Soooooooo.........

Did you wanna talk about her interview and what she suggests?

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-23   20:50:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Lod (#29)

Like you, I've read and viewed it all.

I wouldn't dismiss neutron bombs to smoke the towers.

I really don't know, and don't dismiss anything.

Yes L, there with you.

I don't dismiss much, anyway.

My point is that a REAL INVESTIGATION could easily get to the bottom of a whole lot of 9-11 but high officials seem uninterested in the subject that has started a world war.

Kinda like WW1.

And WW2.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-11-23   20:50:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: tom007 (#40)

Something pulverized the concrete, in sequence, and it wasn't a pancaking building from ten stories above.

It was free fall pancaking, indicating the underlying floor below the collapsing structure had lost ALL structural integrity prior to the upper structure crashing into it.

The increased speed of the upper structure caused a much higher release of kinetic energy than would otherwise have occured, enabling the pulverization of the area of impact.

If the lower floors had NOT been wired for demolition, then the collapse would NOT have been symmetrical nor would if have occured at near free fall speed.

In fact, IF the upper structure had impacted INTACT floors, the collapse would have drastically slowed down and stopped after perhaps 10 or so floors, and the upper structure would have slid off the remaining tower, crashing down into the streets of New York.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   20:55:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: tom007 (#40)

We are total FOOLS for going along with this shit. There I said it.

Why does not the government open an investigation into this.......

O yeh.

In the interview she went over a very valid point...

We the people , are looking into this. We need to know. Given the circumstances of the event and all that was involved in every level, we need to know everything we can about this ESPECIALLY the complete existence of the exact types of weapons they used, down to the serial numbers and manufacturer(s).

The more we all know about this kind of technology the better off we will all be. The more understanding we have , the less likely it will be that such power will be able to be used in such a manner again...the better off we will all be.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-23   20:56:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: Lod (#22) (Edited)

You're wrong - he cares greatly about learning the truth.

I have to disagree with you on that. The truth isn't mystical or magical, it can be clearly seen from available evidence what most likely took place on the day of 9/11. There might be small details here and there that are different but I highly doubt anything major. Anyway, I have already stated why his theory of directed energy could not have been what caused the towers to collapse. He won't address that because he doesn't care about the truth.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-11-23   20:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: RickyJ (#45) (Edited)

He won't address that because he doesn't care about the truth.

Well,

Thank God at least one of us care about the truth.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-23   20:59:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: titorite (#41) (Edited)

High intensity Laser,microwave resonance, perhaps a micro kinetic pellet...I mean, how much do you know about coil guns? Or DEW weapons in general? Are you intimate with the wide range of subject matter and what is in use?

You think a laser wouldn't be visible if it were powerful enough to heat up a building sufficiently to cause it to instantly fall into itself? You're confusing Star Trek phasers with what a real laser is. It's simply amplified light, and it simply heats things up. We have NOTHING which can bring down a building, in fact, it's hard enough to heat up a missile in order to destroy it.

Such beams are NOT powerful enough in the atmosphere to do any significant damage except for objects at a very short range.

Ok, so it wasn't a laser.

Microwave resonance? Fancy word for microwave heating effects, where here, we are talking more about anti-personel or (non lethal) weapons designed for combat or riot situations.

Micro kinetic pellet? A hyper-velocity pellet might go through a battleship, but it pretty much just makes a clean hole. It certainly did not nor could it have brought down the WTC.

So can you find any sort of "directed energy weapon" which COULD bring down the WTC?


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   21:06:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: titorite, Lod (#46)

Well,

Thank God at least one of us care about the truth.

He finally admits he doesn’t care about the truth. I told you.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-11-23   21:07:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: FormerLurker (#47) (Edited)

Whatever directed energy weapon they could come up with still wouldn't fit the available evidence since there were survivors of the WTC collapse. Any directed energy weapon that would turn concrete and steel beams into dust surely would have killed any humans as well.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-11-23   21:11:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: RickyJ, FormerLurker (#48) (Edited)

Sigh

Fuck it , I tried to get yall talking about her work specificly , since this topic was about her and her research. ..but it seems yall can not point out any flaw or are unwilling to attempt it.

At least I think we all know now where you two stand in the line and what loyalties yall perfer serve.

I'll see yall never. It's been real and it's been fun but it aint been real fun, know what mean?

Laters.

_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!

titorite  posted on  2012-11-23   21:16:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: titorite (#41)

Now, you brought up my miss spelling of D.A.R.P.A. . Was their a reason you did not use proper punctuation of the acronym?

First off, it demonstrates you've probably never even read anything in terms of who they are and what they do. DARPA stands for Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.

If you look up the word, that is what it stands for.

AND, just like every other alphabet soup agency, they do not place punctuation inbetween the letters.

I mean, the FBI doesn't use F.B.I., nor does the CIA use C.I.A

I am thinking you just heard the acronym on YouTube and are spelling it phonetically, being that you didn't notice the R in the first syllable, and heard it in the second syllable where it doesn't belong.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   21:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: RickyJ (#49)

Any directed energy weapon that would turn concrete and steel beams into dust surely would have killed any humans as well.

There are other factors which eliminates directed energy weapons as well.

One such item is that any sort of weapon powerful enough to disintegrate a skyscraper would need MASSIVE amounts of power, and would most likely be MASSIVE in size. Where would such a weapon be fired from, and where it would it get its energy?

Another is the matter of how would such a weapon be selective in its destructive power, where not only would it not ALSO destroy objects and structures in back of its target, but that it would be able to focus its energy on EXACTLY where it needed to be in order to cause a sequential top down collapse, progressing downwards as the collapse took place.

If we had such weapons, we would be using them right now against any nation that the elites wanted to attack. It would be more devastating than the nuclear bomb, and such unbalanced power would most assuredly result in a global conflict of unmatched proportion.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   21:28:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: titorite, RickyJ (#50)

At least I think we all know now where you two stand in the line and what loyalties yall perfer serve.

Uh huh. Back to the personal stuff against me know, right titorite, since you've lost the argument and can't back up your claims.

If you noticed, I HAVE posted some of Judy Wood's earlier work. She made the case for EXACTLY what I AM saying, in that it was a sequential failure which caused the upper mass to accelerate at near free fall speed.

Neither you nor her have been able to say exactly why C4 or other conventional explosive devices could not have been used to cause that sequential failure from occuring exactly as it did.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   21:32:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: FormerLurker (#52)

There are other factors which eliminates directed energy weapons as well.

The towers were blown outward, No?

Credible evidence of asbestoes, and strange elevator shaft activity before the event. We are collective FOOLS for putting up with this corruption.

The only conclusion I must come to is the existing (jewish owned?) government is behind 9-11.

Prove me wrong.

"Satan / Cheney in "08" Just Foreign Policy Iraqi Death Estimator

tom007  posted on  2012-11-23   21:41:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: RickyJ (#45)

He won't address that because he doesn't care about the truth.

If he cared about truth he wouldn't have just turned tail and ran. If he cared about truth, he would have either admitted he was wrong and apologized, or presented factual information which bolstered his view.

Thus far, he's called on me to disprove Judy Wood's work, where her OWN previous work demonstrates the opposite of what he is claiming.

Also thus far, he can't seem to find ANY sort of directed energy weapon which exists that could have accomplished what he claims.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-11-23   21:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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