Title: 911 and Thermite, The official Conspiracy Theory? Source:
YouTube URL Source:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=505uzsWbC30 Published:May 9, 2011 Author:108morris108 Post Date:2012-11-23 15:54:13 by GreyLmist Keywords:9/11, Andrew Johnson, Steven Jones, Thermites Theory Views:1164 Comments:67
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Thermite does not turn steel to dust. Thermite does create a lot of flames. Each tower weighed 500,000 tons, no-one has seen anything like the quantity of flames that thermite would have created. Many more anomalies too. Burned out vehicles alongside unburnt paper (a lot of it) left intact. [sic]
Thermite is simply Aluminium and Iron Oxide, two substances which were in great quantity in the Towers.
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Jones' Thermite Theory evidently not published as peer reviewed.
This guy says you don't need evidence, you just need observation.....sheesh, where did he get his science degree?
Say what you like about Jones, but his THEORY is based on evidence at the site:
For example:
Steven Jones, PhD physicist discovers previously molten iron spheres in the WTC dust which blanketed lower Manhattan. Sizes are up to 1/16" diameter. The findings are corroborated by EPA but not explained. Molten iron is the byproduct of Thermite. It contains the chemical signature of thermate.
hysics professor Steven Jones finds, in this previously molten sample from the WTC, the chemical traces of Thermate — including Fluorine, Manganese, Sulphur, Potassium, etc.
The FEMA report notes: "The results of the examination are striking. They reveal a phenomenon never before observed in building fires: eutectic reactions, which caused "intergranular melting capable of turning a solid steel girder into Swiss cheese.... Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation." NIST dropped this like a hot potato. These are all tell tell signs of the use of thermate (sulphur + thermite) incendiary cutter charges."
Previously molten metal was found "flowing like lava" by the FDNY in the basements of all 3 WTC High-rises. Hydrocarbon fires can burn at a maximum temperature of 1,800°F which is about 1,000° short of the beginning melting temperature of steel. Where did the molten metal come from? Why do FEMA and NIST deny its existence?
If this guy is to be taken seriously, he needs an ALTERNATE THEORY explaining the evidence presented, not his opinion and observations that IGNORE the central evidence presented in the initial theory.
Jones doesn't insist that others accept his THEORY, after all it is merely a THEORY based on the evidence found........but if you want to call bullshit on the THEORY, then offer an acceptable alternative for the evidence presented, such as how does the "energy beam" create molten steal and leave the same chemical compounds as nano termite? How does the "energy beam" theory create the holes in the steal? How does the energy beam create sulfidation?
What physical evidence is presented to merit the "energy beam" THEORY...is there a serious scientific theory presented regarding energy beams? Also, does one theory actually discount the other? Is it possible that two theories have merit? Science has many theories that are compatible........
Say what you like about Jones, but his THEORY is based on evidence at the site
What evidence at the site? His interpretations of photos? Judy Wood has an entire book of that. Jones' supposed "chain of dust and soil evidence" appeared years after 9/11 -- after he wrote his 2006 paper. It is highly suspect and should be declared inadmissable in a court of law.
Yes, it is possible that more than one theory has merit but his doesn't, imo. Even he has claimed that thermite/thermate may have been used simply as an incendiary-ignition for more powerful explosives and not to demolish the buildings but even that much about the matter is speculative on his part.
Without even referencing Judy Wood, there are news reports and photos of the WTC destruction that indicates much more was involved than thermitics and that's not hypothetical, according to what's been shown. It is actually Jones, Architects and Engineers, et al, who have been arguing an alternate and unscientifically based theory. Reference the discussions at this linked site, where it's critiqued as "pyrotechnic pixie dust". In summary, what Jones and other "authority figures" called "evidence" -- unreacted thermitics -- disproves that it brought down the buildings at all and should be viewed with more skepticism as disinfo than it has been:
Niels Harrit [a co-author with Jones]: “You cannot fudge this kind of science. We have found it: unreacted thermite.”
Comment: "What does that statement really mean? 'Unreacted'… is that kinda like finding a few unfired bullets around a dead body and then claiming that proves [someone] was shot? That is why the law states that finding residual traces of EXPLODED conventional explosives proves demolition…
finding unreacted thermite doesn’t PROVE thermite brought the towers down. In fact all it really proves is the 'hundreds and hundreds of tons' of this stuff that Harrit ALSO mentioned in that last video… DID NOT bring down the towers… because it didn’t go off."
Another reference for consideration:
This is Google's cache of http://www.defense.gov/transcripts/transcript.aspx? transcriptid=674. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Nov 22, 2012 20:37:13 GMT:
U.S. Department of Defense Office of the Assistant Secretary of Defense (Public Affairs) News Transcript Presenter: Secretary of Defense William S. Cohen April 28, 1997 8:45 AM EDT
Cohen's keynote address at the Conference on Terrorism, Weapons of Mass Destruction, and U.S. Strategy at the Georgia Center, Mahler Auditorium, University of Georgia, Athens, Ga. The event is part of the Sam Nunn Policy Forum being hosted by the University of Georgia. Secretary Cohen is joined by Sen. Sam Nunn and Sen. Richard G. Lugar.
Others are engaging even in an eco- type of terrorism whereby they can alter the climate, set off earthquakes, volcanoes remotely through the use of electromagnetic waves.
So there are plenty of ingenious minds out there that are at work finding ways in which they can wreak terror upon other nations. It's real, and that's the reason why we have to intensify our efforts,
Edited to correct first link path and for punctuation. Bracketed inserts by me in the excerpts from that link.
Edit to note the online book source where the defense.gov info was first read by me:
Of course the pea brain will not deal with the content of the paper, his job is to discredit it, the content can't be discredited or it already would have been. It was military grade nano-thermite that was used to cut the beams at critical points in the structure and explosives used to turn the concrete to dust for the Hollywood effect they work looking for.
Oh, and if you don't think it was possible in 2001 for a thermite technology to turn concrete to dust, think again!
Of course the pea brain will not deal with the content of the paper, his job is to discredit it, the content can't be discredited or it already would have been.
He's not a pea brain and did deal with the content in both videos of his correspondence with the co-author, Gourley. He tried in the first video to address the concentration level of said thermitics and went into much detail about that in the second. He also offered to openly debate the paper on YouTube and provided other sources which question the contents.
They discredited their own paper with the spurious samples they strangely acquired half a decade after 9/11. My view is that their objective was not to establish proof of a controlled demolition anyway but to suggest a supplemental agent to prop up the nonsensical "jet fuel fire collapse theory". Evidence in support of my view is the absence of test-evidence from them for controlled demolition materials like C4 and PETN. Besides that and the intentional misleading of their fan-club, you should be able to see from the second video that the purpose of their paper-entree was very likely also to fish for money to continue their scam-"investigation".
It was military grade nano-thermite that was used to cut the beams at critical points in the structure and explosives used to turn the concrete to dust for the Hollywood effect they work looking for.
Why the Military would even want to use it as a detonator when it's said to be difficult to ignite and control, I don't know -- other than as an underwater ignition.
Oh, and if you don't think it was possible in 2001 for a thermite technology to turn concrete to dust, think again!
A plasma arc as a Directed Energy source in conjunction with electrification of concrete surfaces, eh? Interesting, but since it speaks of dust reduction by melting concrete into molten concrete, it doesn't quite fit the dustification evidence at the WTC.
Steven Jones, PhD physicist discovers previously molten iron spheres in the WTC dust which blanketed lower Manhattan. Sizes are up to 1/16" diameter. The findings are corroborated by EPA but not explained. Molten iron is the byproduct of Thermite. It contains the chemical signature of thermate. 
hysics professor Steven Jones finds, in this previously molten sample from the WTC, the chemical traces of Thermate — including Fluorine, Manganese, Sulphur, Potassium, etc. 
The FEMA report notes: "The results of the examination are striking. They reveal a phenomenon never before observed in building fires: eutectic reactions, which caused "intergranular melting capable of turning a solid steel girder into Swiss cheese.... Evidence of a severe high temperature corrosion attack on the steel, including oxidation and sulfidation." NIST dropped this like a hot potato. These are all tell tell signs of the use of thermate (sulphur + thermite) incendiary cutter charges." 
Previously molten metal was found "flowing like lava" by the FDNY in the basements of all 3 WTC High-rises. Hydrocarbon fires can burn at a maximum temperature of 1,800°F which is about 1,000° short of the beginning melting temperature of steel. Where did the molten metal come from? Why do FEMA and NIST deny its existence?