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Title: Ryan Dawson takes Alex Jones to the woodshed
Source: YooToob
URL Source: http://youtu.be/ssxEvQNa16E
Published: Dec 2, 2012
Author: Ryan Dawson
Post Date: 2012-12-02 20:31:30 by Esso
Keywords: None
Views: 3423
Comments: 84

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#1. To: Esso (#0)
Twenty five views and not one comment.

john stadtmiller posted on 2012-12-02 22:17:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: john stadtmiller (#1)
I saw an article recently that confirmed AJ was psyops.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
farmfriend posted on 2012-12-02 22:28:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: Esso (#0)
Ryan's dead on.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Hmmmmm posted on 2012-12-02 22:48:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: john stadtmiller (#1)
Twenty five views and not one comment.

Ain't that some shit. This kid has a spark.
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Hmmmmm posted on 2012-12-02 22:52:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: john stadtmiller (#1)
John, this kid is sharp. You need another talk show host? ;)

christine posted on 2012-12-03 0:18:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: farmfriend (#2)
which one? the one about stratfor?
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2012-12-03 0:42:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: christine, john stadtmiller (#5)
You need another talk show host?

One that can wake up the youngsters without blowing smoke up their ass.
I wonder who sponsors him now. hmmmmmmm
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
“I would like to express my heartfelt apologies for the unfortunate and tasteless quotes I published in my tag lines. I am very sorry and ashamed. I never wanted to offend anyone, or to encroach human rights."- Hmmmmm
Hmmmmm posted on 2012-12-03 1:14:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: christine, john stadtmiller (#5)
Say, if that kid ain't game I am. I'm not afraid of an audience and someone needs to start telling folks EXACTLY just how the hell it is. Like this kid here.
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-03 1:15:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Artisan (#6)
which one? the one about stratfor?

I'd have to go look.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
farmfriend posted on 2012-12-03 2:17:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: Artisan (#6)
which one? the one about stratfor?

ok I went back and looked. I'm not an AJ fan so I don't pay much attention to the threads. I did see one about the stratfor thing but it was a self post and short. Not much info. I think the one I was refering to, now that I looked, was a post on this video. Here is the thread.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
farmfriend posted on 2012-12-03 2:30:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: Esso, Stadtmiller, Christine, Jethro Tull, Lod, 4UM, All, Jews too, Arabs, Muslims, (#0)
I try to be objective and I listen to all points of view. Jones probably does avoid the "Jew" conversation for good reason(s). There are millions and millions of misguided Christians that instantly reject those that speak against the State of Israel. While they are in error and ignorant of the Biblical truth that doesn't change their opinion. Until some zionazi puts a bullet in their head they will support the fraud that they see as God's will.
2ndly, if someone (anyone) wanted to wake up the most people possible to the myriad of anti-humanity issues such as the FED RESERVE, vaccines, flouride in the water, GMO foods, anti-2nd Amendment, TSA incursions, FEMA Camps, surveillance grids, Police State agendas, (Ron Paul), PNAC, and many other issues that I don't want to sit here and consider, but any effort to wake up the most people would require avoiding issues that divide or lessen the audience.
And while I think this young man is well intentioned and intelligent I believe he's picking a fight with a guy that has out performed every other "patriot" or "alternative" network bar NONE and has awakened more people too.
I noticed several comments that AJ made in the video that were loosely made by Jones and taken somewhat out of context. Jones has been on air for nearly 20 years now and I'm of the opinion that anyone having availed theirself to that much scrutiny can be heckled or ridiculed for a position that may or may not have changed.
In nearly 30 years of studious awareness of the encroachments against our liberty, our way of life, our Constitution, our courts, our children, and actually the entire world, I have witnessed most truth tellers destroyed for one reason or another, and not one obsessive Jew basher ever survived the ADL or others that will do their dirty work. Now this is a two edged sword and many will say "then how come Jones is still around" ???
Jones is shrewd. I might even go so far as to say he's one of "them" if he didn't attack every other issue on their agenda. He's having an effect. People are arming up, refusing vaccines, fighting and winning in court against checkpoints, and becoming more and more aware of the conditions surrounding them and fighting back because of Jones (and other lesser influences).
I ask myself whether or not I would obsess over the State of Israel issue if I were a Talk Show host. The evidence would forbid it. I certainly wouldn't support the State of Israel, and I would occasionally make it known that I believe it's a FRAUD, and that the conflict is killing little innocent kids, and that adults should be able to address the issue without killing children, especially all of these brain surgeons that come out of Harvard, Yale and Princeton who claim to be the best and brightest when running for office and yet become the most incompetent collection of parasites (THAT YOU VOTED FOR) as soon as they are elected.
The last comment from me on this subject is that there are a million better targets to focus on than Alex Jones. If someone would rather hear a perpetual attack on the Jews they should listen to Charlie Giulani or Deanna Spingola.
Anyone is free to go back through about 10 years of archives here at 4UM to see that I am no Jew lover and I also have issues with Alex Jones. But, I am interested in the truth too. No one person or network of people can possibly be the perfect oracle. In a world of confusion and hate one attempting to maximize their opportunity to awaken the public must pick their battles wisely with a focus to defeat the enemy of freedom. Even though I believe the zionazis are very formidable enemies of America and liberty I also believe there are patriotic Jews that have forfeited their well being to speak out against zionism and associated lies such as Arthur Koestler and Henry Macow to name just a couple.
OK, so I lied. I have one more comment. Those that obsess over Jones are worse than those obsessing over Jews. Jones is one little fat man with a big mouth and huge ego that has a tremendous audience in spite of his many flaws. So what does that say about his competition ?
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 5:15:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: noone222 (#11) (Edited)
OK, so I lied. I have one more comment. Those that obsess over Jones are worse than those obsessing over Jews. Jones is one little fat man with a big mouth and huge ego that has a tremendous audience in spite of his many flaws. So what does that say about his competition ?

That they are not in bed with Israeli/CIA interests.
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-03 5:25:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: titorite (#12)
That they are not in bed with Israeli/CIA interests.

Is exposure of the FED RESERVE, vaccines, flouride in the water, GMO foods, 2nd Amendment violations, TSA incursions, FEMA Camps, surveillance grids, Police State agendas, (Ron Paul), PNAC, and many others in the interest of the Israeli / CIA interest ?
Or are you simply sucking up for a radio show ? Had to ask !
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 5:35:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: farmfriend (#2)
I saw an article recently that confirmed AJ was psyops.

The more appropriate term would be "alleged" ... not confirmed.
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 6:12:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: noone222 (#13) (Edited)
I will have to remain at odds with Mr.Jones. I do not feel he should be seen as any kind of authority or leader. In fact I think his main purpose is to identify to more radical among us that we might be prevented from trying anything rash, like restoring constitutional law or convincing others of the merits of secession.

Let me ask you this since I do not know...

Has Alex Jones been on this secession kick like stink on shit, talking about it every day, bullhorning the state reps to support it, urging all his listeners to write their texas legislators in support of a free texas?
I would bet no.

And I would not mind a radio show... it would be awesome and I would be awesome at it. I would love to compare all the local tyrannies of my local city (and other cities like quartzsite AZ among legions of other small cities) to the larger tyrannies of fed and state makings...
Tyrannies rise when good men fail to pay attention to the bad..

That would make an awesome tag.
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-03 6:42:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: titorite (#15)
Has Alex Jones been on this secession kick like stink on shit, talking about it every day, bullhorning the state reps to support it, urging all his listeners to write their texas legislators in support of a free texas?
I would bet no.

You would be wrong.
He definitely thinks we should secede - but back into the Constitutional Republic. And, he comments on this subject every day.
(I don't even agree with having a FEDERAL GOVT, maybe a national government under strict adherence to the Constitution).
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 7:06:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: noone222 (#16)
I would so have you as a guest on my show!
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-03 7:07:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: titorite (#17)
I would so have you as a guest on my show!

I would be honored.
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 7:14:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: noone222 (#11)
yours is an accurate assessment, imo. well said. i also noticed that some of those comments by AJ shown in the video had me wondering when and in what context they were said.
i hear Alex criticize israel much, much more than i hear him defend it. i was especially surprised at the statement he made about "wiping israel off the map" by Ahmadenijad. i thought for sure i had heard Alex say that that was misinterpreted and that Ahmadenijad was speaking of the regime, not the country.

christine posted on 2012-12-03 11:02:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: noone222 (#11)
Bump #11. My thoughts exactly.

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-03 11:04:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: christine (#5)
John, this kid is sharp. You need another talk show host?

AJ has become his own invention. He has walked away from his base support. He is now heading to Beckville for a brand new market. Have you been watching what he has been doing? I know this guy too well. Everybody say good bye to him. Who are the world bankers? Who was the start of communism? Who are the social engineers? Who owns our media? Who has stolen an entire country? Zionist. He may not be one of them...but he is not gonna go against 'em.

john stadtmiller posted on 2012-12-03 11:20:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: noone222 (#14)
The more appropriate term would be "alleged" ... not confirmed.

I would agree having gone back and relooked at what I had read.
Does anyone honestly believe that the global elites whose wealth and power depend on manipulation of the global chess board would leave something like the Presidency up to chance?
farmfriend posted on 2012-12-03 11:25:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: Esso (#0)
Wow.
I want to hear more from this young man.
He is articulate, knowledgable, focused and passionate.
Young people like this give me hope.
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wakeup posted on 2012-12-03 12:14:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: christine (#19)
i thought for sure i had heard Alex say that that was misinterpreted and that Ahmadenijad was speaking of the regime, not the country.

That was one that I thought, like you, Jones had actually argued against by stating that MEMRI was a pro-Israeli agency that had also done the translation from arabic or farsi to english, which Glenn Beck (amongst others) repeated at every opportunity.
We can choose to remain divided in order to focus upon an issue that hasn't much chance of solution or we can get organized against the multitude of grievances being foisted upon us by WHOMEVER and name - names irrespective of their ethnic or alleged religion.
What really needs to occur is for people to take a deep hard look at themselves and ask how can we support the atrocious behavior of the out of control government of the U.S. - regardless of who is behind it.
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 12:31:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: noone222 (#11)
And while I think this young man is well intentioned and intelligent I believe he's picking a fight with a guy that has out performed every other "patriot" or "alternative" network bar NONE and has awakened more people too

Hey Noone we were that entity that was in the lead in the alternative media. Numbers wise in '07 we were kicking GCN's ass. We had just one bird. They had four. It was not diluted with computer or gardening shows. Our numbers were outstripping his network. Jones tried to "help" me with my network. When I did'nt take his advice, the attemted take down was on. He and two of my employees went about taking RBNLIVE.com down and calling all my host and advertisers and telling them I was out of business. HE WAS DOING THIS HIMSELF! He wanted to be the end all be all for the patriots. We all know what happened in '08 with the economy, he tried to destroy me and RBN. That is a fact. We have not returned to our formal strength but we are still here. People like Jeff Rense or Mike Rivero or Jack Blood are not on GCN anymore. Why? Because they were a threat to Jones dominance. Please do not confuse this with jelousy or anything else of the kind. I know what this asshat really is. So you go ahead and keep justifying his motives and actions. I have gone head to head with ole Abe Foxman of the ADL, and guess what? He won't say anything or write anything about me anymore on the subject of being an anti-semite. Why? Because I asked him to keep writing about me and that would be the link to the jews to come and listen to what I had to say about Zionism. That I would educate them as to the difference between Judism or Jews vs Zionist. He never wrote another word about me. I tried years ago to help Alex tackle that very same subject the way I handled Abe Foxman. Did he do it? No. One more thing Noone, What is the NWO? What is their power stucture? Who are the worlds bankers? Who owns our media? Why does AIPAC basically run our Government? Why are we having endless wars in the mideast? Who are the core engineers of Liberalism in this country today? Where did world communism start and who were they? Is he educating people? Really? He is scaring the living shit out of everyone and not explaning and giving any solutions. I will never give in and I will never surrender. Follow asshat over the cliff if you want. The kid in the video knows. AND SO DO I. Do you Noone?

john stadtmiller posted on 2012-12-03 13:05:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: john stadtmiller (#25)
Unfortunately, I'm not privy to the inner workings of RBN or GCN. My view is that of a mere listener. I've donated money ($500.00 a few years ago) to your network, not GCN. I'm not an AJ groupie but I do listen to his program, usually on the continuous loop because the lady I live with prefers Deanna Spingola and detests Alex Jones.
People that have left various networks over the years all have their reasons, I'm sure. Plenty of folks have left RBN as well as GCN. I don't think that should make as much of an impact upon the listening audience as does the content of the programming.
Alex Jones is usually first to interview the people involved in current events of interest. Hearing from those directly (and negatively) affected by the NWO goons is something that I want and Jones delivers.
I listen to your show as well. I listened when you and Jones did a Saturday show. I listen to Glenn Beck and the other asshats that never discuss the FED or the Zionazis ... not because I like them or support them, but because I want to hear the lies they tell their audience or note the truths they never discuss.
I even listened to Michael Medved, a guy that patronizes Christians so that they'll go kill arabs because I want to know everyone's position. I have a good friend that's pretty much awake (in his own mind) yet he supports the State of Israel, recently converted to Catholicism but at least he finally did leave the Republican Party. (Quit the FEDERAL FRAUD altogether).
Truthfully, John, I don't think anyone in talk radio provides solutions. I think most of the alternative programming makes people more aware of the problems but suggests very little in the way of solutions.
The "so-called" patriot community is made up of some of the most stubborn and narrow-minded people that I have ever known. The enemy (NWO) provides us with a million divisive issues to fight over and we do. Maybe things have to get so bad that we can finally agree to solve the problem together or maybe we'll never get it together.
Their monetary system has you and most everyone else supporting it,(including Jones and Rense). Your business and most others rely upon the fiat/credit system to operate. And I don't have a solution for others except to say that I've withdrawn from that system to the greatest extent possible. It's inconvenient at times and restricts me in some ways, but ultimately that's what has to be done by everyone. As long as they provide the credit and currencies everyone else is a slave to some degree, there is NO CONSTITUTION because of the monetary (commercial usurpation) system or it's possible to consider someone supporting that system to be "one of them" because that distinction isn't really a wide gap. Either you support the murdering thugs or you don't.
Lastly, I'm not against you or RBN at all. I'm grateful for what you do and think you have a very valueable network. I'm for you. I also think Jones provides a worthy service on a grander scale regardless of your differences. Frankly, Jones' arrogance and ego often force me to turn him off. That's my choice. I've been in the so-called patriot movement damn near 30 years. I've fought the lawsuits, and the system for half of my freaking life. In that time not many talk shows or their hosts have been successful or able to remain solvent. But I think I'm aware of the NWO and WHO they are. I just don't think Jones has to beat that drum all day everyday or even at all to be of value to all of us.
Much of the info put out by talk hosts on the air and others at various "patriot" gatherings has resulted in others being financially harmed, locked up or worse. I don't want to badmouth anyone but everyone in your area is familiar with Dessie Andrews (I may have spelled it wrong). I know there were those that experienced negative impacts from her research and classes. She hosted on RBN at one time but left, as has Robby Noel, Jeff Bennett, Sam Kennedy, and Jack Blood. (And others - my point is that I'm not privy to all of their reasons nor do I want to be).
I haven't heard Jones badmouth you, your network, or your hosts but I do hear some RBN hosts badmouth Jones. I could be wrong about this but I haven't heard it, not even when your joint Saturday program ended.
Anyway, I didn't respond to the original post because I'm an Alex Jones groupie. I responded because I thought the attack was unsupported by facts just sound bites, small minded because it was a one issue attack upon Alex Jones that might be perceived by some of his listeners and potential converts to the Patriot movement as his being anti semetic if he continually bashed Jews or Israel, but most of all because it was counterproductive to unifying against the far larger enemy, tyranny, regardless of who is imposing it.
People that want a Jew bashing fest everyday should listen to Rick Adams, Deanna Spingola or (for early risers) Charles Giulani.
I guess I've said enough.
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 14:50:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: noone222 (#26)
well said. regarding your Catholic friend, i actually have a lot of good links that will refute, for him, the israel myth. such as when a bishop states that the jews are no longer the chosen people, and etc.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2012-12-03 16:20:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: noone222, *The hook-nosed Jew* (#26)
I responded because I thought the attack was unsupported by facts just sound bites, small minded because it was a one issue attack upon Alex Jones that might be perceived by some of his listeners and potential converts to the Patriot movement as his being anti semetic if he continually bashed Jews or Israel, but most of all because it was counterproductive to unifying against the far larger enemy, tyranny, regardless of who is imposing it.

Does Alex Jones ever name the jew??
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-03 16:42:19 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: noone222, patriots, truth-seekers, 4 (#26)
Very well said, thank you.
As long as we're pissing on each other, they win.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-03 16:49:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: john stadtmiller (#25) (Edited)
People like Jeff Rense or Mike Rivero or Jack Blood are not on GCN anymore.

Sure....I've been on the net a looong time.
watching the wars as media persons get run off from RBN,GCN.
Outing Alex Jones is easy....
There is however a more difficult wall to overcome....that being organized religion.
I was involved in Christian/Pentecostal ministry....and Messianic fellowship for the Jewish side.
I'm out !....websites like Jesus never existed [Ken Humphreys]...and the recent Caears Messiah clear the way...give closure.
The Hebrew/Jewish testimony via several works is pure contrived BS with stolen mythology from other cultures and lots of redacted -Zion Mind ______!

Once a person realizes this is BS...then the mythical carpentar is next.
Breaking away from the false Jesus reality is the most difficult.
I find it best to front the resources and leave time to do its work.
If you cannot break free of mythical jesus....you can't be free from the overall Socio/MK ultra....all 3 Abrahamic religions are entangled and played.
HG Wells during his time writing for the Fabians mentioned in the book...The Shape of things to come*...that Zionism would be used to create world rejection of the Jew and Judaism.
and that Christianity and Islam would be run to ground...before the full Global Governence sat to rule all.
You can make a statement like that....if your with the Elite and know....all 3** are contrived by man....are fake religions.
People in general are trusting...or follow the group dynamic.
so its very difficult to stand alone or aside...and be one who says the US never landed a man on the moon.
no man has ever gone farther in space than the space shuttle and lived. 400 miles!
That 9-11 was run by command of the Global elite who have access to very high level technology.
sure...they used nano thermite/thermate to bring down the 2 WTC's...
but they also used directed energy weapon...as people on the ground felt an unseen force push them...like the way you feel 2 magnets repelling....and some were even lifted off the ground and thrown.
Peeling this onion is difficult.....the MSN had pre canned video which was fake of the WTC collapse and the 2nd tower getting hit by the CGI plane.
endless ninnying over details simply fails.....9-11 was the kick off for the next phase of Grand Chessboard.....and yes...there is significant Occult* overtones to 9-11.
The Fake War on Terror plugs into the Religion template.....now the Elite can move the bulk of humanity which ever way they choose.
War and Final Judgement doom are in all the 3 fake religions writings.....they can go to that well endlessly and push the fear along.
I was banned at LP a week or so back for outing fake Christianity and Judaism.
This is the price for bringing what the sheeple can't bear to look at .
The Globalists will topple the mid east and move their Missile shield ever closer to Russia.
in the 2020's...both Russia and China's military upgrade and new build weapons programs will be online.
If it becomes WW-3....no Mukdee will appear for Iran,....Mythical Jesus will not appear on a White horse....and Messiach will not appear for IsraHell.

mankind will experience sorrow unmatched....as all their hopes vanish and what remains...is just man......man who rules over others with no compassion.

Parrot with speed dial posted on 2012-12-03 17:11:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: Parrot with speed dial (#30)
mankind will experience sorrow unmatched....as all their hopes vanish and what remains...is just man......man who rules over others with no compassion.

Parrot - mankind is nothing.
We rule squat.
Come'on.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-03 17:34:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: Esso (#0)
I don't like AJ, but if I had to take a side in this, I guess I'd take AJ's.
Kid's just blowing kisses to dark folk far away...
"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan
Prefrontal Vortex posted on 2012-12-03 17:49:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: X-15 (#28)
Does Alex Jones ever name the jew??

Would that be good for white people? :O
"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan
Prefrontal Vortex posted on 2012-12-03 17:50:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#33)
Naming the zioconfraud is great for the world. imo
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-03 17:54:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: Lod (#31) (Edited)
Parrot - mankind is nothing.
We rule squat.
Come'on.

The timing for when and why a person breaks free from controlled paradigms is a mystery.
as mentioned....I was in Christian ministry and read Torah during rotation at Messianic fellowship.
There are many people breaking free from this false promise....breaking Free....from the Fear**
Yes...I struggled....I needed a support net....thankfully Ken Humphreys [Jesus never existed] was there...and other sites which braved the pushback of society,....enabling people to get out from under this contrived BS
You can do this in private....just study...the resources are there.
You can overcome....I sleep like a baby and have no guilt...no fear!
Think!...if the Jewish fronted books and writtings are spin cycle and fraud....then ask yourself if its possible...if its possible....the Jesus stuff is BS too?
I did...and as mentioned...the resources proved it was.
This isn't the only mainstream BS to get handed its hat and shown the door.
I've spent decades in Electric Universe theory.
I ran a CNC underwater cut Cryogenic Nitrogen Plasma Gantry cutting steel and alloy for oil/nat gas process with Boilermakers AFL CIO .
Used 50 ton remote control cranes....did metallurgy,ultrasound inspection,layout,..was a senior burner...and a senior first aid.
The Sun is Electric [See The surface of the sun] website]///where the NASA/JPL Trace satellite shows the layers of plasma sweeping over the rocky/ferrite surace of the sun.
so ya....its not a thermonuclear whatever....its Electric...just as Electric Universe [Holoscience.com] teacher articles shows.
The Earth expands.....Expanded Earth theory...[see Maxlow Exp Earth/ or Neal Adams youtubes]...vs the false/false....continental drift theory.
We live in a time of revision....is upsetting...its going to be ...upsetting!
Mankind has been held down by complete BS and hunta religion/banker controlled political pathways.

There's any number of places to access now...to Wake the____ you know what up!

I'm giving these other source/site idents to show people I'm not some kook into wrecking peoples religious hopes.
There is far more to breaking free from the controll than you would imagine.
yet its there...for those....brave enough to reach for it.

Parrot with speed dial posted on 2012-12-03 17:58:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: Parrot with speed dial (#30)
well, i have to say your post was very thought provoking!

christine posted on 2012-12-03 18:02:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: Prefrontal Vortex (#33)
Would that be good for white people? :O

I suspect that more would cry for Israel than not, the yiddish mind-control covers the land like an insidious, noxious gas.
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-03 18:09:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: X-15 (#28)
Does Alex Jones ever name the jew??

He names the perps and their deeds without necessarily adding that they are JEWS. Chertoff, Sandy Berger, Feinstein, Schumer, Boxer, Soros, and many others have been named - but more importantly their deeds have been detailed and he is constantly exposing the Offshore banking interests that are running America.
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 18:09:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: Parrot with speed dial, 4 (#35)
Parrot, I had an NDE earlier this year, hospitalized for over a month.
God is real, and Satan is real.
They fight over our souls.
Buy a copy of My Descent into Death by Howard Storm and learn more, please.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-03 18:20:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: Lod (#34)
Like George Carlin said, "the world" is going to do fine.
"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan
Prefrontal Vortex posted on 2012-12-03 18:25:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: X-15 (#37)
I suspect that more would cry for Israel than not

I suspect more would see it destroyed than protect their own.
Israel's interests and the anti-white diaspora's interest are now in conflict.
Rachel Corrie excites people for all the wrong reasons.
Over time, as things get worse here, Israel I think will be forgotten.
"Mr. Prime Minister, there is only one important question facing us, and that is the question whether the white race will survive." -- Leonid Brezhnev to James Callahan
Prefrontal Vortex posted on 2012-12-03 18:31:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: john stadtmiller (#21)
John, i don't listen to Alex often anymore--it's only when something major happens in the news and i want to hear details or when he's got a guest on that i'm interested in hearing. if RBN had a radio station that broadcasted in Austin, that's where i'd be tuned in as i'm traveling in my car--so i really don't know what Alex is up to.
to be honest, i've been burnt out on the state of the state for quite some time (november's election really did me in) and have been investing time (while i can!) in activities that keep me mentally and physically uplifted.

christine posted on 2012-12-03 18:33:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: christine (#36)
well, i have to say your post was very thought provoking!

Hi christine...
It takes time....and ya......its gonna hurt
as mentioned....its a mystery as to when and how....a person kicks free of things.
I do believe in a higher something christine.
No...not Ghia...or any channeling spirits.....or any other man made religion.
simply put.....when my carbon based body perishes on this earth....what passes for my life experience/my person/my spirit...will ascend.
Ever had a cat or dog.....or a pet which you talked too.....and it responded to you with love/affection?
Well...thats the reality proof of sentient reality.
Do they require a cross for their salvation?
There is a site in Turkey named Gobekli Tepi...visit the images on Google image search.
Its dated to 9000 bc christine....the raised megaliths...there is 21 ring sites....and some of the megaliths have etched reliefs of constellations...the Zodiac...an early zodiac at 9000bc.
no Hebrews in site now christine.....who did these people wonder upon as god?...what was sentient life for them?
Arthur Posnansky found the skeletons of giants with 3x elongated skulls burried in detritus around Tiwanaku...dated to 13,000bc...and possibly farther back to 30,000.
sure...the bible says there was giants....yet the evidence proves their was races of giants...going so far back...there is no written record.
There are pyramid fields/grids all over the earth....there are 3 in China which match giza in scale and size...
there is an ancient world.... organized religion is not wanting you to discern.
same with mainstream science....a religion in itself...it does not want you* to think or view with independent thought.
christine...our human DNA has some 4000 genetic defects latent in the DNA[see LLoyd Pye on google]
our 2nd chromosome block is actually a fused pairing of 2....we are 23....and primates are 24.
we have been genetically augmented to become 23?.....why?.....who?
would god create such a flawed being?
yet we exist!....and so did the races of giants.
Fear and control is what holds a person back.
as mentioned....I struggled some christine...and needed certain support nets to fully break away.
I've also had intervention events in my life...survived 3 vehicle accidents....and in 1....a semi rolled over and nearly killed me....yet I lived...and ran over to the overturned rig and pulled the driver out.
We are each...placed in this time...for a reason.
Life challenges us....and sometimes will not let go....even if we get angry,...it press's us to another position.....it moves us away..into True Freedom.
We are Light...if we so choose,....and with respect....can help others along the path of life.
sometimes we are told to go away.....leave.....
and We do,.....because We love : )

Parrot with speed dial posted on 2012-12-03 18:38:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: Artisan (#27)
regarding your Catholic friend, i actually have a lot of good links that will refute, for him, the israel myth.

My research leads me to firmly believe that the Vatican is just another branch of the NWO, that migrated out of Babylon with the so-called JEWS. The Pope in my opinion is possibly the Capo di tutti capi ... boss of all bosses.
(I was raised Catholic and was an altar boy from the 4th grade through the 8th and never had a bad or weird experience with the priests. So I have no axe to grind in that regard and I think I also received a decent education there. Until I did some real research I was gladly Catholic).
And, after writing the above about being Catholic I have to admit that at one time, I too, thought the JEWS did it all.
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 18:39:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: Lod, 4 (#29)
As long as we're pissing on each other, they win.

^^^^^^^^^^THIS^^^^^^^^^

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-03 18:48:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: Lod (#39)
Parrot, I had an NDE earlier this year, hospitalized for over a month.
God is real, and Satan is real.
They fight over our souls.
Buy a copy of My Descent into Death by Howard Storm and learn more, please.

Your gonna make it Lod : )
Life is pulling the rug out from under you!
quote:
Speak the truth always, even if it leads to your death
Life....Time....has ripped me out of the mainstream and bid me to invite others.
I have listed out some of the resources,....access them repeatedly....let go,...let the quiet/rest of the inner self speak to you.
Fear is very real....the forge and the hammer.
I Invite...with confidence..knowing....Time....will deliver the person to its sure footsteps.
maybe not now......for you....but in time : )

Parrot with speed dial posted on 2012-12-03 18:56:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: Parrot with speed dial (#43)
i had long conversations with my friend, Randy Weaver, several years ago when he visited us in Austin, about much of what you shared in your posts. His and his wife's research led them to the same conclusions as yours.

christine posted on 2012-12-03 18:57:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: noone222 (#44)
The Pope in my opinion is possibly the Capo di tutti capi ... boss of all bosses.

Ehhh - don't know about that one.
Yes, the pope is a bad actor, but I don't think that he calls any real shots, though his goon squad can, and will, cap their adversaries.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-03 18:59:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: Lod (#29)
As long as we're pissing on each other, they win.

You betcha ... if enough people become aware that they've been lied to all of their lives sooner or later they'll recognize the bad guys, they'll sit on juries, they'll even start asking themselves if they're getting their money's worth from the "authorities that harass them continually, and they might even ask why a cabal of rabbis has a monopoly on their cash that they create out of thin air.
Thanks Lod !
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 19:25:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: noone222, lod (#49)
I'm still in favour of testing the waters to see which legislators are with us and which ain't in regards to secession...on both county and state levels.....
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-03 19:32:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: Lod (#48)
Yes, the pope is a bad actor, but I don't think that he calls any real shots, though his goon squad can, and will, cap their adversaries.

I read an article yesterday about how they're making everyone get an ID card that's chipped to prevent leaks about any variety of criminal activity going on at the Vatican ... as soon as a couple get lost --- IMPLANTS FOR EVERYONE !
I think the Pope has far more wheel-base than most give him credit. I've read many old Charters granted by the Pope where he sold the rights to countries to monarchs - he even divided the globe between Spain and Portugal at one time (for a fee).
And, never forget about the Vatican Banker that was hung from Black Friars bridge with bricks in his pocket.
One last thing to ponder. Why have the Jesuits been kicked out of as many countries as the so-called (fake) "Jews" usually charged with some type of "intrigue" ?
Where there's smoke ...
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 19:53:05 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: titorite (#50)
I'm still in favour of testing the waters to see which legislators are with us and which ain't in regards to secession...on both county and state levels.....

Truth is the 'things" we call STATES today (and counties are subdivisions too) are subsidiaries of the FEDERAL CORPORATION and not the "several states united" - therefore THE OFFICES that people think are county and State Offices are in actual fact FEDERAL.
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-03 19:57:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: noone222 (#11)
There are millions and millions of misguided Christians that instantly reject those that speak against the State of Israel. While they are in error and ignorant of the Biblical truth that doesn't change their opinion. Until some zionazi puts a bullet in their head they will support the fraud that they see as God's will.

Facts on the ground.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
tom007 posted on 2012-12-03 20:00:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: christine, Randy Weaver, 4 (#47)
RW had a close to a come to Jesus event that I could never imagine while conscious.
Curious that he came to a different conclusion...
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-03 20:15:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: noone222 (#51)
Where there's smoke ...

It's a wonder that we've not all exploded with all that's been blown up our asses.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-03 20:40:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: christine (#47) (Edited)
LOL, I got to meet him in Austin. I was shielded from that news event so I had no clue who he was till I heard his story in person from him. I got to talk with him at length afterwards...about revolution, activism, that sort of thing...
flabbergasting history....
The tyranny must be ended.
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-03 21:57:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: titorite, christine, john stadtmiller (#8)
Say, if that kid ain't game I am. I'm not afraid of an audience and someone needs to start telling folks EXACTLY just how the hell it is. Like this kid here.

Get him to tell you how much a stupid, insane kook you are when you disagree with him that an airliner didn't hit the pentagon.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-03 22:08:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: All (#0)
Read this article about Ryan Dawson:
http://zioncrimefactory.com
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Dollar DVD Project Liberty needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?
wakeup posted on 2012-12-04 2:50:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#59. To: wudidiz (#57)
What ? really?

No..

Darn it .. no//...

Put me in contact,

I'll speak with him .
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-04 4:28:54 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#60. To: Parrot with speed dial, Christine (#43)
Arthur Posnansky found the skeletons of giants with 3x elongated skulls burried in detritus around Tiwanaku...dated to 13,000bc...and possibly farther back to 30,000. sure...the bible says there was giants....yet the evidence proves their was races of giants...going so far back...there is no written record.

There are pyramid fields/grids all over the earth....there are 3 in China which match giza in scale and size... there is an ancient world.... organized religion is not wanting you to discern. same with mainstream science....a religion in itself...it does not want you* to think or view with independent thought.

Jeremiah 4:23-27
23 I beheld the earth, and, lo, it was without form, and void; and the heavens, and they had no light.
24 I beheld the mountains, and, lo, they trembled, and all the hills moved lightly.
25 I beheld, and, lo, there was no man, and all the birds of the heavens were fled.
26 I beheld, and, lo, the fruitful place was a wilderness, and all the cities thereof were broken down at the presence of the LORD, and by his fierce anger.
27 For thus hath the LORD said, The whole land shall be desolate; yet will I not make a full end. (KJV)
The Bible confirms or alleges that there was some pre-adamic race of beings or pre-mankind cities that were either vacated or more likely made vacant but shown to Jeremiah.
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-04 6:54:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#61. To: noone222, 4 (#52)
...THE OFFICES that people think are county and State Offices are in actual fact FEDERAL.

They're all corporations, chartered and registered in Delaware.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-04 6:57:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#62. To: Lod (#61)

Sometimes I feel so "lost in space (hell)" ... then I ask myself ... would Jesus choose an AR-15 (7.62 X39) or the more dependable AK-47 ?
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-04 7:13:04 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#63. To: titorite (#56)

neo-cunts
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-04 7:26:51 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#64. To: christine (#19)
hear Alex criticize israel much, much more than i hear him defend it. i was especially surprised at the statement he made about "wiping israel off the map" by Ahmadenijad. i thought for sure i had heard Alex say that that was misinterpreted and that Ahmadenijad was speaking of the regime, not the country.

In the film, Meyrav Wurmser, a neocon Jewess who founded the Zionist propaganda outlet “The Middle East Media Research Institute” (MEMRI), was obliged to confess: “Yes, many of us [neocons] are Jewish… ummm…uhhh… Most of us, all of us in fact, are Pro-Israel.”
This info was part of a post below but I thought you might miss it. I mentioned MEMRI and this excellent post "confirmed" my allegations that they are a Jew based and Jew biased fraud that Glenn Buck uses to translate lies into fuckts (facts).
Treason has conspired with Greed and Murder in "OUR" country. I will not be an accomplice !
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-04 7:32:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#65. To: noone222 (#62)
Good question.
Since I'm not slogging through rice paddies or desert sand-storms, my choice is the .223, .45, 5.7x28mm and 12gauge.
Were I the armorer back in 1836, Santa Ana would be buried in San Antonio.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-04 7:34:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#66. To: titorite, wakeup, *9-11*, *No Planers* (#59)
www.rys2sense.com/anti-ne...viewtopic.php?f=9&t=29675
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-04 8:19:21 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#67. To: titorite (#56)
are you talking about at the Silver Eagle? or the other event at that park (sorry i can't recall the name of it or where it was)? if so, i was at both.

christine posted on 2012-12-04 10:59:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#68. To: wudidiz (#57)
oh really?

christine posted on 2012-12-04 11:02:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#69. To: noone222 (#60)
The Bible confirms or alleges that there was some pre-adamic race of beings or pre-mankind cities that were either vacated or more likely made vacant but shown to Jeremiah.

ok. thank you.

christine posted on 2012-12-04 11:13:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#70. To: christine (#68)
See post #66.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-04 12:11:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#71. To: wudidiz (#66)
www.rys2sense.com-anti-ne...viewtopic.phpf=9&t=29675

What's his evidence of a remotely controlled plane hitting the Pentagon? Dov Zakheim and company. In other words, there's more actual evidence that a plane didn't hit the Pentagon than he has for insisting otherwise -- and insultingly so. If he really thinks that landing gear made the exit hole, he should be calling for a refund, like me, of the wasted hundreds of millions of dollars paid to the British company, AMEC, to uselessly "reinforce" the walls in that wedge zone. I think an example of their shabby work can be seen at 39:01 of a Ryan Dawson video posted at 12160.info -- just 4 flimsy rods poking through the concrete there. Even though he points out sarcastically that things like wooden stools, plastic computers, passports and books don't burn in 9/11 jet fuel fires but the same fuel could turn metal molten and brings down buildings, still he labels anyone who disagrees with him about remotely controlled planes as "kooks". I daresay he should get out of that labeling business.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2012-12-04 18:15:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#72. To: GreyLmist, everyone in the world (#71)
Dov's controlled aircraft hit all their targets, except 93 which was shot down.
Period.
EOS
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-04 18:24:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#73. To: Lod (#72)
Dov's controlled aircraft hit all their targets, except 93 which was shot down.
Period.

I disagree, since I haven't seen any supporting evidence which confirms that.

EOS

Am not sure what you meant by that. End of Stream? I'm pretty sure that you weren't intending to say "Aurora" in Latin.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2012-12-04 20:03:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#74. To: Lod (#72)
Dov's controlled aircraft hit all their targets, except 93 which was shot down.
Period.
EOS

Not sure who "Dov" is, but you are right, they did hit all their targets, except the Pentagon, no plane hit that. It wasn't a target of any aircraft, it was planted explosives.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2012-12-04 20:44:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#75. To: GreyLmist (#73)
EOS
Am not sure what you meant by that. End of Stream? I'm pretty sure that you weren't intending to say "Aurora" in Latin.

End of story.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2012-12-04 20:45:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#76. To: RickyJ (#74)
Not sure who "Dov" is

Zakheim.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2012-12-04 20:57:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#77. To: RickyJ (#75)
End of story.

Thanks for the clarification. Fine by me if the remote control storyline is over.
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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
GreyLmist posted on 2012-12-04 21:15:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#78. To: christine (#67)
are you talking about at the Silver Eagle? or the other event at that park (sorry i can't recall the name of it or where it was)? if so, i was at both.

No, it would of been up in Austin.
I would of been the youngest kid there asking him about the merits of starting revolution.
Back then I was still taking information in. After that I began to engage.
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-04 22:03:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#79. To: Lod, GreyLmist, everyone in the world (#72)
Dov's controlled aircraft hit all their targets, except 93 which was shot down.
Period.
EOS

You think an airliner hit the pentagon, Lod?
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-05 0:48:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#80. To: wudidiz (#79)
You know (as does anyone with 1/1000th of a working brain cell) that no airliner hit the pentagon.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-06 20:34:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#81. To: Lod (#80)
Ryan Dawson would say we're kooks for knowing that.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-06 23:32:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#82. To: wudidiz (#81)
Ryan Dawson would say we're kooks for knowing that.

Then Ryan Dawson hasn't stood on that lawn looking south.
Didn't happen!
“Anti-semitism is a disease–you catch it from Jews”–Edgar J. Steele
“The jew cries out in pain, as he strikes you.”–Polish proverb
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Hmmmmm posted on 2012-12-06 23:41:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#83. To: titorite (#78)
that would have been one of the times Randy was staying with me and my husband.

christine posted on 2012-12-06 23:49:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#84. To: christine (#83) (Edited)
I knew we all had previous associations. I should start hosting some meet ups ...It would be good to get something like that restarted around here.
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-07 13:41:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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