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Title: up to 27 dead' 18 children in Conn. school shooting BREAKING
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Published: Dec 14, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-14 13:21:33 by tom007
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#36. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

A tearful Kenyan just announced "meaningful action" will be taken shortly to correct these shootings.

Enabling Acts, 2012?

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   15:30:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: FormerLurker (#35)

The so-called "professional" and the drug manufacturer should be held liable for "adverse reactions" to any drugs prescribed to the patient if it results in homicide, where those drugs can be linked to other homicides in the past.

Absolutely, provided it wasn't a one in ten million occurrence. It's the willful negligence/profiteering that bothers me. I'm sure you agree, I just wanted to add that caveat to better define this position.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   15:35:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: wudidiz (#1)

Comment from your link to CBS story:

Adam:

Not only that, but this was an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.

He would have killed just as many with a knife, it's not like the kids could have put up a fight against him.

Pencils don't misspell words.

Forks don't make people fat.

Knives don't leap off the table and stab people.

Cars don't drunk drive themselves.

Guns don't maliciously lie in wait plotting to kill people.

If every one of the teachers had been armed, maybe this would have ended with ONE death - the scumbag shooter.

Could not have said it better myself.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   15:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: tom007 (#0)

the guy went there to kill his mother.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   15:45:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: wudidiz, All (#26)

www.fairfaxunderground.co...d/40/1066470/1066524.html

Apparently, This Is NOT Connecticut School Shooter Ryan Lanza’s Facebook


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   15:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Jethro Tull (#3)

This is more than a crime. This is evil incarnate.

For some reason, George W. Bush comes to mind with the phrase "evil incarnate." To think I actually voted for the guy in 2000. Just 12 years ago I was a sheep. It seems a lot longer time than that.

Evil people do not care how many they kill as long as they accomplish their objectives. The "what will it take" comment from CBS's Bob Schieffer referring to what it will take to pass more gun restriction laws really, really, pissed me off. With idiotic agenda pushing comments like that after such an act of crime, it will take a lot to stop someone from killing him.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-14   16:06:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: hondo68, wudidiz, All (#29)

Wrong guy, he's still alive and posting. It's not the dead shooter, obviously.

Apparently now they're saying the shooter was actually Adam Lanza, Ryan's younger brother...

Adam Lanza: Suspect in school shooting in Connecticut


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   16:08:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Shoonra (#11)

Just remember the Republican mantra: "This is not the time to talk about gun laws."

Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

Tell me what law would have prevented this crime?

How can a law prevent a criminal from getting a gun and killing people? It can't! Wake up and get armed. Without some means to protect yourself you will be a sitting duck to those that want to kill you.

God is always good!

RickyJ  posted on  2012-12-14   16:14:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: RickyJ (#41)

To think I actually voted for the guy in 2000. Just 12 years ago I was a sheep.

You were naive, not stupid. Many a good person has been tricked by soothsayers.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   16:18:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: RickyJ, Shoonra (#43)

shhhh, don't tell him that $#it, he doesn't believe in those terrible guns. I am sure he would rather be killed than to defend himself--after all, if someone shot him it would be one of the poor victims of society the leftists are always whinging on and on about.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-14   16:20:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Dakmar (#44)

why are you so excited, dakmar?

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   16:20:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: RickyJ (#43)

Tell me what law would have prevented this crime?

Ask Harry Bellefonte, he has the perfect plan for society.

Lock up everyone who questions his plan, prolly kill the rest, and everything will be perfect!

Let me explain:

Phase One: Steal Underwear
Phase Two: ?
Phase Three: Profit!

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   16:22:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: lead.and.lag (#46)

why are you so excited, dakmar?

It's Friday, I'm bored and rarely challenged by SPLC mutants such as yourself. It's fun!

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   16:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Dakmar (#48)

here's a couple songs for you

dont blame me.... https://soundcloud.com/#wadosy/dont-blame-me

the underdog.... https://soundcloud.com/#wadosy/the-underdog

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   16:27:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: FormerLurker, Dakmar (#35)

Notice how the "professional psychiatrists" always escape scrutiny from MSM when one of their "patients" loses it. Hollywood inadvertently provides a great, if fictionalized, example of the failure of psychiatry and "normalizing" medication, pay very close attention from 3:15 - 4:00

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-12-14   16:34:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: X-15 (#50)

Living in the liberal land of make-believe?

Or something more sinister?

I vote for the latter.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   16:40:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Shoonra (#11)

Do you want to outlaw knives and chainsaws too? You decide. Don't watch without your mommy unless you're over 14.

Big Meanie  posted on  2012-12-14   16:44:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Dakmar (#51)

That movie came out in 1980, nothing has changed in the field of mental healthcare except for a greater variety of mind-altering drugs that will scramble your brain beyond repair.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-12-14   16:45:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Turtle (#22)

I don't believe in pathetic non-existent conspiracies about Manchurian candidates,

That's because you are a fugging sheep who lacks the capability for independent thought, and is only happy being spoon-fed the news by the mainstream media.

Oh, and you're a self-centered egotistical prick.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-12-14   16:46:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Dakmar (#47)

Phase One would have thwarted the underwear bomber all right.

Solid thinking Dax.

I like it.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-14   16:48:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: X-15 (#50)

Hollywood inadvertently provides a great, if fictionalized, example of the failure of psychiatry and "normalizing" medication

Yep. They could have done a better job showing how he was taken meds though.


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   16:49:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Big Meanie (#52)

Exactly. Mexico has become a hellhole with the most gruesome murders being committed with knives and machetes (and chainsaws).

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-12-14   16:49:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: X-15 (#53)

What movie? What the hell are you talking about, X? :)

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   16:51:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: FormerLurker (#28)

I can safely assume that this guy was on some sort of psychiatric meds

I would agree with that. Those meds are associated with increases in murder/suicide. And I do strongly suspect he was a pedophile.

There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.

Turtle  posted on  2012-12-14   16:52:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Bill D Berger (#54)

Oh, and you're a self-centered egotistical prick.

No, I'm smart and can see the truth. Only the sheep believe in non-existent conspiracies. That means you, only you can't see it. You never will, either.

There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.

Turtle  posted on  2012-12-14   16:55:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: All (#46)

lots of money to be made if we take all the guns away from people, then re-arm the factions who will oppose each other in the civil war that will justify martial law.

it isnt as if we havent had any practice at that kind of stunt.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   16:55:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Dakmar (#37)

Absolutely, provided it wasn't a one in ten million occurrence. It's the willful negligence/profiteering that bothers me.

I'd wager that this guy was either on Prozac, Paxil, or some other type of SSRI. It's that family of drugs which are typicaly found to be tied to mass murders in recent times. Even Ritalin has been seen to trigger these outbursts.

Another School Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug? Federal Investigation Long Overdue


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   16:56:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: All (#61)

it's pretty odd that the same people who refuse to condemn the israeli american empire's actions overseas are the same people who are yammering for gun control.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   16:57:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: All (#63)

it's pretty odd that the same people who've established a culture of violence are leading the drive towards gun control.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   16:58:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: tom007 (#6)

Evil indeed. Given recent history , one wonders which pharmacuitical will be involved.

That was pretty close to my thoughts. You can count on it being buried but at some point someone will report that:

A. He was under Psychiatric care.

AND

B. That he was under "Psychiatric medication" i.e., some form of anti-depressant SSRI.

Of course the lamestream Nooze Ghouls have gotten tricky about hiding it or slipping it in just in passing,. After all Big Pharma pays a lot of money for advertising.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   16:59:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Lod (#55)

Phase One would have thwarted the underwear bomber all right.

Wow, I never thought of that Loddy. Ban underwear, there will be no more underwear bombers.

Now, what can we do about all those haters that own screwdrivers? Get them off the shelves, first, I think, that will create a sense of peace ond love. On 6the other hand, I had to smack a dude with with a crescent wrench once time as I was trying to escape a likely robbery. Will we need to outlaw crescent wrenches too? This may get hairy...

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:00:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Original_Intent, Dakmar, tom007, All (#65)

That he was under "Psychiatric medication" i.e., some form of anti-depressant SSRI.

SSRI Stories Antidepressant Nightmares


"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen

FormerLurker  posted on  2012-12-14   17:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Bill D Berger, Turtle (#54)

I don't believe in pathetic non-existent conspiracies about Manchurian candidates,

That's because you are a fugging sheep who lacks the capability for independent thought, and is only happy being spoon-fed the news by the mainstream media.

Oh, and you're a self-centered egotistical prick.

Aw c'mon Bill doncha' think you're being a little hard on poor Turdle. He can take his disinformation in big hearty gulps.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   17:02:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: All (#64) (Edited)

this is the last chance to repair the world before the oil runs out, so it's time for desperate measures.

the only question, is: how much of the world do we have to wreck before we start repairing it?

it plain to see that might makes right, as we descend back to the law of the jungle... so, if that guy was mighty enough to kill his mother and a couple dozen kids, he was entitled to do so.

if you got to kill a few dozen kids to facilitate the operation, so be it... we got to take the guns away from the common citizens... lord knows what kind of uppity ideas they might get.

nope, we gotta take their guns, and sell guns only to approved factions who will then be pitted against each other so we can justify the military occupation of america.

lead.and.lag  posted on  2012-12-14   17:03:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Jethro Tull (#34)

President Obama's statement on Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting

Barry & Moochelle are hugging their kids tonight. If they had a lick of sense, they'd be cleaning their guns too.

He must be taking crying lessons from Glen Beck and John Boehner.



"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul

hondo68  posted on  2012-12-14   17:03:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Original_Intent (#65)

Of course the lamestream Nooze Ghouls have gotten tricky about hiding it or slipping it in just in passing,. After all Big Pharma pays a lot of money for advertising.

Ain't it so. Further hilarity would ensue if his "handler" was interviewed and allowed to exclaim "If only Obamacare had been in place, I could have had him on more expensive 'life-saving' medications to prevent this tragedy!"

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-12-14   17:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: FormerLurker (#62)

I'd wager that this guy was either on Prozac, Paxil, or some other type of SSRI. It's that family of drugs which are typicaly found to be tied to mass murders in recent times. Even Ritalin has been seen to trigger these outbursts.

Just for fun, I give you one Lee Harvey Oswald, MK Ultra, and buyers of millions of American Motors products beginning with the Pacer. Much of this predates discovery of Seratonin.

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2012-12-14   17:05:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Turtle (#60)

No, I'm smart and can see the truth.

Too funny dude!

Get over yourself already.

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During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-12-14   17:05:24 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Turtle (#59)

And I do strongly suspect he was a pedophile.

CT FREAK!!!

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.

Bill D Berger  posted on  2012-12-14   17:06:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: FormerLurker (#67)

Thank you for the link. Good reference data well compiled.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   17:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: X-15 (#71)

Of course the lamestream Nooze Ghouls have gotten tricky about hiding it or slipping it in just in passing,. After all Big Pharma pays a lot of money for advertising.

Ain't it so. Further hilarity would ensue if his "handler" was interviewed and allowed to exclaim "If only Obamacare had been in place, I could have had him on more expensive 'life-saving' medications to prevent this tragedy!"

That is tooooooooooooo sick because it is true.

Of course it sure is an odd "conincidence" that we have had two shootings close together just as the Obamapuppet is pushing a new gun control bill. Pure coincidence - of course. Really. Honest injun. For realio trulio. You betcha. Uh huh.

Perseverent Gardener
"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2012-12-14   17:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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