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Title: up to 27 dead' 18 children in Conn. school shooting BREAKING
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Published: Dec 14, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-14 13:21:33 by tom007
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
newyork.cbslocal.com/2012...-school-shooting-in-conn/
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-14 13:22:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#2. To: wudidiz (#1)
Thanks W
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
tom007 posted on 2012-12-14 13:28:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#3. To: tom007, 4, *The Pending Gun Grab* (#0)
This is more than a crime. This is evil incarnate.

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-14 13:33:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#4. To: tom007 (#2)
You're welcome, Tom.
State sponsored terror... shock and awe... human sacrifice... false flag... increase sekurity... gun control...
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-14 13:34:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#5. To: wudidiz (#4)
Good heavens 30 people killed at a school? probably another govt mind controllled patsy to shock the nations psyche into demanding more dictatorial controls- "blame the guns", bring in the security state.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2012-12-14 13:38:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#6. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
Evil indeed. Given recent history , one wonders which pharmacuitical will be involved.
"Satan / Cheney in "08"
tom007 posted on 2012-12-14 13:40:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#7. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
I cant even keep track of these anymore. wasnt there just one of these shootings in the northwest last week? It seems they wont give this country a break. It seems they want to inflame the populace into abject paranoia.
"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28
Artisan posted on 2012-12-14 13:41:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#8. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
When you get that many children killed the shooter is almost always a pedophile. Google "Scotland" "school shooting" "pedophile."
Of course you will never hear about anything except calls for gun control.
One guy told me the shooters were cops dressed as nuns. And people wonder why I laugh at conspiracists.
There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
Turtle posted on 2012-12-14 13:43:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#9. To: Artisan (#5)
Good heavens 30 people killed at a school? probably another govt mind controllled patsy to shock the nations psyche into demanding more dictatorial controls- "blame the guns", bring in the security state.

Probably.
And fuel for the media circus frenzy machine.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-14 13:50:05 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#10. To: Turtle (#8)
Maybe it's just a coincidence that the "conspiracists" see a conspiracy in all these similar shootings.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-14 13:52:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#11. To: tom007 (#0)
Just remember the Republican mantra: "This is not the time to talk about gun laws."
Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

Shoonra posted on 2012-12-14 13:54:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#12. To: Shoonra (#11)
Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

"Pedophile control, pedophile control, pedophile control..."
There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
Turtle posted on 2012-12-14 14:00:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#13. To: Shoonra (#11)
Just remember the Republican mantra: "This is not the time to talk about gun laws."
Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

Who gives a shit what they agree with?
You are not going to get guns banned in this country and if you try 27 dead will only be a beginning.
Life's dangerous. Get over it.
Calling Ron Paul an isolationist is like calling your neighbor a hermit because he doesn't come over and break your window - unknown

I WITHDRAW MY CONSENT!
Any perceived compliance with unconstitutional “laws” or orders put forth by government employees is NOT recognition of their authority; it is simply the result of carefully calculated submission to an entity exhibiting superior firepower.
F.A. Hayek Fan posted on 2012-12-14 14:03:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#14. To: Shoonra (#11)
Do you think we should stop sending arms to Israel?

Big Meanie posted on 2012-12-14 14:18:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#15. To: Shoonra (#11)
Just remember the Republican mantra: "This is not the time to talk about gun laws."
Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

How about some criminal control? You lefties always want to blame inanimate objects as if they could come to life and kill of their own volition. Get help!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2012-12-14 14:18:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#16. To: wudidiz (#1)
from your link:

An 8-year-old student said he was on his way to the school’s office when he saw the gunman.
“I saw some of the bullets going down the hall and then a teacher pulled me into her classroom,” the boy told CBS 2′s Lou Young.
My goodness, that youngster has good eyes. "Saw some of the bullets going down the hall..."
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2012-12-14 14:25:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#17. To: Turtle (#12)
Are you a CIA disinfo agent?

Lysander_Spooner posted on 2012-12-14 14:27:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#18. To: tom007 (#0) (Edited)
Home school or die.
http://voxday.blogspot.com/2012/...hool-or-die-part-562.html

I heard two shooters, one had a kid at the school,that is all I have heard about the perps.

Lysander_Spooner posted on 2012-12-14 14:29:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#19. To: Shoonra (#11)
Just remember the Republican mantra: "This is not the time to talk about gun laws."
Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

Maybe one of these days they'll make murder illegal. Oh wait...
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 14:39:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#20. To: Shoonra (#11)
"This is not the time to talk about gun laws."

That's what Carney is saying at the White House, although he keeps mentioning it.
It's a damn shame that no one at the school had a gun to stop this.

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
hondo68 posted on 2012-12-14 14:48:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#21. To: hondo68 (#20)
These gun-free zones are just risk-free shooting galleries for the deranged.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-14 14:52:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#22. To: Lysander_Spooner (#17)
Are you a CIA disinfo agent?

I don't believe in pathetic non-existent conspiracies about Manchurian candidates, chips in people's heads, brainwashing and all the rest of the nonsense the government fills fool's heads with. Read my tagline.
There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
Turtle posted on 2012-12-14 15:03:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#23. To: All (#0)
So here I am, eating my way thru a box of trans fat soaked doughnuts, waiting for the Kenyan to speak to the under informed AmeriKan sheeple via the one eyed Jew. Welcome to the new normal.

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-14 15:07:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#24. To: Shoonra (#11)
Just remember the Republican mantra: "This is not the time to talk about gun laws."
Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

Would you feel better if hundreds were killed by some maniac mixing bleach and ammonia in a city park water fountain?
Who am I kidding, of course you would. Then you would be agitating to ban parks everywhere that people least likely to do so live.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 15:10:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#23)
Why do you hate Amerfrica?
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 15:10:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#26. To: tom007 (#0)
www.fairfaxunderground.co...d/40/1066470/1066524.html
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-14 15:11:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#27. To: Shoonra (#11)

Downtown Tel Aviv.

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-14 15:12:17 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#28. To: Dakmar, Shoonra (#24)
Perhaps Shoonra would prefer Molotov Cocktails, who knows. There are MANY ways for a true nut to kill MANY people, from setting them on fire with gasoline, to running them over with their cars.
I can safely assume that this guy was on some sort of psychiatric meds, as pretty much ALL of the other mass shooters were on.
What needs to be examined and perhaps banned outright are these volatile prescription drugs which drive people insane.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 15:14:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#29. To: wudidiz (#26)
Wrong guy, he's still alive and posting. It's not the dead shooter, obviously.

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
hondo68 posted on 2012-12-14 15:16:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#30. To: Dakmar (#25)
Amerfrica

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-14 15:16:50 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#31. To: hondo68, All (#29) (Edited)
The shooter's name is Ryan Lanza. Apparently he shot his father in Hoboken NJ prior to killing his mother, a teacher at the school, along with her students.
Ryan Lanza Identified By Police As Gunman In Deadly Connecticut Elementary School Shooting

It's apparently a different Ryan Lanza than the guy whose Facebook page was tracked down.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 15:21:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#32. To: FormerLurker (#28)
I can safely assume that this guy was on some sort of psychiatric meds, as pretty much ALL of the other mass shooters were on.

Agreed, which also implies they were under the control of a medical/psychiatric "professional", licensed and trained in the the care of individuals who may someday pose a threat to civil society. Sublimely ridiculous yet tragic at the same time.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 15:21:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#33. To: Jethro Tull (#27)
Downtown Tel Aviv.

Those ain't no Goyim, they have rights!
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 15:23:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#34. To: All (#0)
A tearful Kenyan just announced "meaningful action" will be taken shortly to correct these shootings.

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-14 15:26:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#35. To: Dakmar (#32)
Agreed, which also implies they were under the control of a medical/psychiatric "professional", licensed and trained in the the care of individuals who may someday pose a threat to civil society.

The so-called "professional" and the drug manufacturer should be held liable for "adverse reactions" to any drugs prescribed to the patient if it results in homicide, where those drugs can be linked to other homicides in the past.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 15:28:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#36. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
A tearful Kenyan just announced "meaningful action" will be taken shortly to correct these shootings.

Enabling Acts, 2012?
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 15:30:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#37. To: FormerLurker (#35)
The so-called "professional" and the drug manufacturer should be held liable for "adverse reactions" to any drugs prescribed to the patient if it results in homicide, where those drugs can be linked to other homicides in the past.

Absolutely, provided it wasn't a one in ten million occurrence. It's the willful negligence/profiteering that bothers me. I'm sure you agree, I just wanted to add that caveat to better define this position.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 15:35:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#38. To: wudidiz (#1)
Comment from your link to CBS story:
Adam:
Not only that, but this was an ELEMENTARY SCHOOL.
He would have killed just as many with a knife, it's not like the kids could have put up a fight against him.
Pencils don't misspell words.
Forks don't make people fat.
Knives don't leap off the table and stab people.
Cars don't drunk drive themselves.
Guns don't maliciously lie in wait plotting to kill people.
If every one of the teachers had been armed, maybe this would have ended with ONE death - the scumbag shooter.

Could not have said it better myself.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 15:40:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#39. To: tom007 (#0)
the guy went there to kill his mother.

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 15:45:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#40. To: wudidiz, All (#26)
www.fairfaxunderground.co...d/40/1066470/1066524.html

Apparently, This Is NOT Connecticut School Shooter Ryan Lanza’s Facebook
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 15:58:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#41. To: Jethro Tull (#3)
This is more than a crime. This is evil incarnate.

For some reason, George W. Bush comes to mind with the phrase "evil incarnate." To think I actually voted for the guy in 2000. Just 12 years ago I was a sheep. It seems a lot longer time than that.
Evil people do not care how many they kill as long as they accomplish their objectives. The "what will it take" comment from CBS's Bob Schieffer referring to what it will take to pass more gun restriction laws really, really, pissed me off. With idiotic agenda pushing comments like that after such an act of crime, it will take a lot to stop someone from killing him.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2012-12-14 16:06:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#42. To: hondo68, wudidiz, All (#29)
Wrong guy, he's still alive and posting. It's not the dead shooter, obviously.

Apparently now they're saying the shooter was actually Adam Lanza, Ryan's younger brother...
Adam Lanza: Suspect in school shooting in Connecticut
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 16:08:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#43. To: Shoonra (#11)
Just remember the Republican mantra: "This is not the time to talk about gun laws."
Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

Tell me what law would have prevented this crime?
How can a law prevent a criminal from getting a gun and killing people? It can't! Wake up and get armed. Without some means to protect yourself you will be a sitting duck to those that want to kill you.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2012-12-14 16:14:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#44. To: RickyJ (#41)
To think I actually voted for the guy in 2000. Just 12 years ago I was a sheep.

You were naive, not stupid. Many a good person has been tricked by soothsayers.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 16:18:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#45. To: RickyJ, Shoonra (#43)
shhhh, don't tell him that $#it, he doesn't believe in those terrible guns. I am sure he would rather be killed than to defend himself--after all, if someone shot him it would be one of the poor victims of society the leftists are always whinging on and on about.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2012-12-14 16:20:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#46. To: Dakmar (#44)
why are you so excited, dakmar?

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 16:20:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#47. To: RickyJ (#43)
Tell me what law would have prevented this crime?

Ask Harry Bellefonte, he has the perfect plan for society.
Lock up everyone who questions his plan, prolly kill the rest, and everything will be perfect!
Let me explain:
Phase One: Steal Underwear
Phase Two: ?
Phase Three: Profit!
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 16:22:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#48. To: lead.and.lag (#46)
why are you so excited, dakmar?

It's Friday, I'm bored and rarely challenged by SPLC mutants such as yourself. It's fun!
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 16:24:51 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#49. To: Dakmar (#48)
here's a couple songs for you

dont blame me.... https://soundcloud.com/#wadosy/dont-blame-me
the underdog.... https://soundcloud.com/#wadosy/the-underdog

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 16:27:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#50. To: FormerLurker, Dakmar (#35)
Notice how the "professional psychiatrists" always escape scrutiny from MSM when one of their "patients" loses it. Hollywood inadvertently provides a great, if fictionalized, example of the failure of psychiatry and "normalizing" medication, pay very close attention from 3:15 - 4:00

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-14 16:34:49 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#51. To: X-15 (#50)
Living in the liberal land of make-believe?
Or something more sinister?
I vote for the latter.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 16:40:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#52. To: Shoonra (#11)
Do you want to outlaw knives and chainsaws too? You decide. Don't watch without your mommy unless you're over 14.

Big Meanie posted on 2012-12-14 16:44:47 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#53. To: Dakmar (#51)
That movie came out in 1980, nothing has changed in the field of mental healthcare except for a greater variety of mind-altering drugs that will scramble your brain beyond repair.
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-14 16:45:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#54. To: Turtle (#22)
I don't believe in pathetic non-existent conspiracies about Manchurian candidates,

That's because you are a fugging sheep who lacks the capability for independent thought, and is only happy being spoon-fed the news by the mainstream media.
Oh, and you're a self-centered egotistical prick.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Bill D Berger posted on 2012-12-14 16:46:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#55. To: Dakmar (#47)
Phase One would have thwarted the underwear bomber all right.
Solid thinking Dax.
I like it.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-14 16:48:22 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#56. To: X-15 (#50)
Hollywood inadvertently provides a great, if fictionalized, example of the failure of psychiatry and "normalizing" medication

Yep. They could have done a better job showing how he was taken meds though.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 16:49:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#57. To: Big Meanie (#52)
Exactly. Mexico has become a hellhole with the most gruesome murders being committed with knives and machetes (and chainsaws).
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-14 16:49:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#58. To: X-15 (#53)
What movie? What the hell are you talking about, X? :)

"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 16:51:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#59. To: FormerLurker (#28)
I can safely assume that this guy was on some sort of psychiatric meds

I would agree with that. Those meds are associated with increases in murder/suicide. And I do strongly suspect he was a pedophile.
There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
Turtle posted on 2012-12-14 16:52:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#60. To: Bill D Berger (#54)
Oh, and you're a self-centered egotistical prick.

No, I'm smart and can see the truth. Only the sheep believe in non-existent conspiracies. That means you, only you can't see it. You never will, either.
There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
Turtle posted on 2012-12-14 16:55:06 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#61. To: All (#46)
lots of money to be made if we take all the guns away from people, then re-arm the factions who will oppose each other in the civil war that will justify martial law.
it isnt as if we havent had any practice at that kind of stunt.

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 16:55:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#62. To: Dakmar (#37)
Absolutely, provided it wasn't a one in ten million occurrence. It's the willful negligence/profiteering that bothers me.

I'd wager that this guy was either on Prozac, Paxil, or some other type of SSRI. It's that family of drugs which are typicaly found to be tied to mass murders in recent times. Even Ritalin has been seen to trigger these outbursts.
Another School Shooting, Another Psychiatric Drug? Federal Investigation Long Overdue
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 16:56:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#63. To: All (#61)
it's pretty odd that the same people who refuse to condemn the israeli american empire's actions overseas are the same people who are yammering for gun control.

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 16:57:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#64. To: All (#63)
it's pretty odd that the same people who've established a culture of violence are leading the drive towards gun control.

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 16:58:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#65. To: tom007 (#6)
Evil indeed. Given recent history , one wonders which pharmacuitical will be involved.

That was pretty close to my thoughts. You can count on it being buried but at some point someone will report that:
A. He was under Psychiatric care.
AND
B. That he was under "Psychiatric medication" i.e., some form of anti-depressant SSRI.
Of course the lamestream Nooze Ghouls have gotten tricky about hiding it or slipping it in just in passing,. After all Big Pharma pays a lot of money for advertising.
Perseverent Gardener"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2012-12-14 16:59:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#66. To: Lod (#55)
Phase One would have thwarted the underwear bomber all right.

Wow, I never thought of that Loddy. Ban underwear, there will be no more underwear bombers.
Now, what can we do about all those haters that own screwdrivers? Get them off the shelves, first, I think, that will create a sense of peace ond love. On 6the other hand, I had to smack a dude with with a crescent wrench once time as I was trying to escape a likely robbery. Will we need to outlaw crescent wrenches too? This may get hairy...
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:00:27 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#67. To: Original_Intent, Dakmar, tom007, All (#65)
That he was under "Psychiatric medication" i.e., some form of anti-depressant SSRI.

SSRI Stories Antidepressant Nightmares
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 17:02:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#68. To: Bill D Berger, Turtle (#54)
I don't believe in pathetic non-existent conspiracies about Manchurian candidates,
That's because you are a fugging sheep who lacks the capability for independent thought, and is only happy being spoon-fed the news by the mainstream media.
Oh, and you're a self-centered egotistical prick.

Aw c'mon Bill doncha' think you're being a little hard on poor Turdle. He can take his disinformation in big hearty gulps.
Perseverent Gardener"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2012-12-14 17:02:17 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#69. To: All (#64) (Edited)
this is the last chance to repair the world before the oil runs out, so it's time for desperate measures.
the only question, is: how much of the world do we have to wreck before we start repairing it?

it plain to see that might makes right, as we descend back to the law of the jungle... so, if that guy was mighty enough to kill his mother and a couple dozen kids, he was entitled to do so.
if you got to kill a few dozen kids to facilitate the operation, so be it... we got to take the guns away from the common citizens... lord knows what kind of uppity ideas they might get.
nope, we gotta take their guns, and sell guns only to approved factions who will then be pitted against each other so we can justify the military occupation of america.

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 17:03:13 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#70. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
President Obama's statement on Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting

Barry & Moochelle are hugging their kids tonight. If they had a lick of sense, they'd be cleaning their guns too.
He must be taking crying lessons from Glen Beck and John Boehner.

"We (government) need to do a lot less, a lot sooner" ~Ron Paul
hondo68 posted on 2012-12-14 17:03:25 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#71. To: Original_Intent (#65)
Of course the lamestream Nooze Ghouls have gotten tricky about hiding it or slipping it in just in passing,. After all Big Pharma pays a lot of money for advertising.

Ain't it so. Further hilarity would ensue if his "handler" was interviewed and allowed to exclaim "If only Obamacare had been in place, I could have had him on more expensive 'life-saving' medications to prevent this tragedy!"
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-14 17:03:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#72. To: FormerLurker (#62)
I'd wager that this guy was either on Prozac, Paxil, or some other type of SSRI. It's that family of drugs which are typicaly found to be tied to mass murders in recent times. Even Ritalin has been seen to trigger these outbursts.

Just for fun, I give you one Lee Harvey Oswald, MK Ultra, and buyers of millions of American Motors products beginning with the Pacer. Much of this predates discovery of Seratonin.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:05:10 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#73. To: Turtle (#60)
No, I'm smart and can see the truth.

Too funny dude!
Get over yourself already.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Bill D Berger posted on 2012-12-14 17:05:24 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#74. To: Turtle (#59)
And I do strongly suspect he was a pedophile.

CT FREAK!!!
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Bill D Berger posted on 2012-12-14 17:06:35 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#75. To: FormerLurker (#67)
Thank you for the link. Good reference data well compiled.
Perseverent Gardener"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2012-12-14 17:07:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#76. To: X-15 (#71)
Of course the lamestream Nooze Ghouls have gotten tricky about hiding it or slipping it in just in passing,. After all Big Pharma pays a lot of money for advertising.
Ain't it so. Further hilarity would ensue if his "handler" was interviewed and allowed to exclaim "If only Obamacare had been in place, I could have had him on more expensive 'life-saving' medications to prevent this tragedy!"

That is tooooooooooooo sick because it is true.
Of course it sure is an odd "conincidence" that we have had two shootings close together just as the Obamapuppet is pushing a new gun control bill. Pure coincidence - of course. Really. Honest injun. For realio trulio. You betcha. Uh huh.
Perseverent Gardener"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2012-12-14 17:10:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#77. To: hondo68, weepy, sobby, talking anuses (#70)

These two crying bags of shit are the ones empowered to walk us back off the fiscal cliff.....we're so very fucked.

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-14 17:10:07 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#78. To: lead.and.lag (#69)
this is the last chance to repair the world before the oil runs out

A. The oil isn't running out. They're having to cap and hide wells because it is so abundant.
B. That is also the reason that any of the real alternatives have been bought up, suppressed, and if need be the inventor murdered.
Perseverent Gardener"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2012-12-14 17:12:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#79. To: Dakmar (#72)
Just for fun, I give you one Lee Harvey Oswald

Oh c'mon Dak, you don't seriously believe in the lone gunman and the magic bullet tales do you?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 17:12:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#80. To: Original_Intent (#75)
YW OI.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 17:13:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#81. To: All (#69) (Edited)
what it boils down to is this: the yin/yang balance is out of whack, the shrinks and drugs and social engineering are trying to convince us we're all nuts.
we're not nuts, the system is nuts, governed as it is by looters and racial supremacists who are unable to admit that their dismal system is a failure.

it's no wonder somebody goes off the deep end once in a while, but it's probably normal in times of great change, and the technology is making it worse.

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 17:14:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#82. To: Original_Intent (#76)
Of course it sure is an odd "conincidence" that we have had two shootings close together just as the Obamapuppet is pushing a new gun control bill. Pure coincidence - of course. Really. Honest injun. For realio trulio. You betcha. Uh huh.

Whites done gone crazy seeing a black president! Shoot them, damnit, shoot them all!
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:14:20 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#83. To: Dakmar (#82)
Of course it sure is an odd "conincidence" that we have had two shootings close together just as the Obamapuppet is pushing a new gun control bill. Pure coincidence - of course. Really. Honest injun. For realio trulio. You betcha. Uh huh.
Whites done gone crazy seeing a black president! Shoot them, damnit, shoot them all!

I think you're on to something Dak.
Or is that on something?
Perseverent Gardener"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2012-12-14 17:15:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#84. To: Dakmar (#72)
buyers of millions of American Motors products beginning with the Pacer.

Not sure how that ties in with insane behavior leading to murder. Care to explain?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 17:17:30 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#85. To: FormerLurker (#79)
Oh c'mon Dak, you don't seriously believe in the lone gunman and the magic bullet tales do you?

I believe he was presented to the American public as a demon to heap scorn upon.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:17:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#86. To: Dakmar (#82)
Whites done gone crazy seeing a black president! Shoot them, damnit, shoot them all!

white people cant shoot blacks... nope, that's a job for mexicans... so we gots to arm the blacks and mexicans.
when they kill enough of each other, then us white folks can intervene for humanitarian reasons.
good deal

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 17:17:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#87. To: Turtle (#22)
I don't believe in pathetic non-existent conspiracies about Manchurian candidates, chips in people's heads, brainwashing and all the rest of the nonsense the government fills fool's heads with

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A declassified CIA document dated 7 Jan 1953 [1] describes the creation of multiple personality in 19-year old girls. "These subjects have clearly demonstrated that they can pass from a fully awake state to a deep H [hypnotic] controlled state ... by telephone, by receiving written matter, or by the use of code, signal, or words and that control of those hypnotized can be passed from one individual to another without great difficulty. It has also been shown by experimentation with these girls that they can act as unwilling couriers for information purposes."
The CIA Mind Control Projects
A CIA document dated 10 Feb 1954 [4] describes an experiment on the creation of unsuspecting assassins: "Miss [deleted] was then instructed (having expressed a fear of firearms) that she would use every method at her disposal to awaken Miss [deleted] (now in a deep hypnotic sleep) and failing this, she would pick up a pistol and fire it at Miss [deleted]. She was instructed that she would not hesitate to "kill." Miss [deleted] carried out these suggestions including firing the (unloaded) gun at [deleted]. After proper suggestions were made, both were awakened. Miss [deleted] expressed absolute denial that the foregoing sequence had happened." BB 36, 37

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HUNDREDS of mentally ill patients who were subjected to barbaric CIA-funded brainwashing experiments by a Scottish doctor could be entitled to compensation
Doctor Ewan Cameron, who became one of the world’s leading psychiatrists, developed techniques used by Nazi scientists to wipe out the existing personalities of people in his care.

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In 1953, President Dwight Eisenhower's Secretary of Defense Charles E. Wilson authorized scientific experimentation on active duty military members in a document now infamously known as the Wilson Memo.
Between 1954 and 1975, more than seven thousand Army and Air Force personnel are thought to have participated in Sidney Gottlieb's mind control program.
Many of these veterans have sought compensation for the physical and psychological damage they suffered at the hands of Gottlieb and his assistants, but to date the government has balked at honoring their claims.In 2001, President Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen awarded yet another contract to the IOM to locate the Edgewood veterans and other subjects of DoD chemical testing. In a 2003 article published in Military Medicine , the IOM reported that it had conducted a survey of 4,002 Edgewood veterans. But this report focused on subjects of Sarin and other chemical weapon experiments, not specifically on the MK-ULTRA mind control program subjects.
Further confusing the issue was a 2004 Government Accounting Office (GAO) report titled Chemical and Biological Defense: DOD Needs to Continue to Collect and Provide Information on Tests and Potentially Exposed Personnel. The report covered veteran test subjects in a chemical and biological test program known as "Project 112," but also addressed a Department of Defense mandate to investigate all other human test projects conducted since World War II.
The report stated that Army documents identified over seven thousand Army and Air Force personnel who participated in these "other tests" conducted at Edgewood and elsewhere, but didn't specifically break out which of these test veterans were involved in Gottlieb's mind control experiments.
It also said the GAO had concluded that, "the scope and the magnitude of tests involving human subjects was not available, and the exact number of human subjects might never be known." *

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The purpose of the project was outlined in a memo dated January 1952 that stated, “Can we get control of an individual to the point where he will do our bidding against his will and even against fundamental laws of nature, such as self preservation?”
Project Bluebird researchers experimented with a wide variety of psychoactive substances, including LSD, heroin, marijuana, cocaine, PCP, mescaline, and ether. Thousands of military personal were dosed and experimented upon, and it is believed that many civilians were also used.

During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Bill D Berger posted on 2012-12-14 17:19:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#88. To: Dakmar (#85)
I believe he was presented to the American public as a demon to heap scorn upon.

Well yeah, of course. Thing is, they're getting ready to heap a whole lot of scorn upon guns and their owners, totally ignoring the fact that psychiatric meds oftentimes leads to homicide, suicide, and other such behavior.
Did you take a peek at that link I posted containing a list of over 4800 documented cases related to SSRIs and other psychiatric drugs?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 17:20:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#89. To: FormerLurker (#84) (Edited)
Not sure how that ties in with insane behavior leading to murder. Care to explain?

The AMC Pacer, believe it or not, is the vehicle I most associate with abnormal behavior. Almost all the child molesters, dog fuckers, and beer stealing neighbors I ever encountered drove a Pacer at one time or another.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:22:34 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#90. To: FormerLurker (#88) (Edited)
...ignoring the fact that psychiatric meds oftentimes leads to homicide, suicide, and other such behavior.

is this a chicken/egg situation?
which came first, the deterioration of the society or the drugs?
is normal, healthy behavior (disgust at the direction we're heading) being diagnosed as mental illness?
or are people being driven truly nuts by the culture?

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 17:22:48 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#91. To: Bill D Berger (#87)
I think psychiatric meds are an offshoot of MKULTRA. They KNOW there are a good number of people who will react badly to these drugs, and most likely, at least SOME of them ARE programmed at an early age to do exactly what they end up doing.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 17:22:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#92. To: Dakmar (#85)
I believe [Lee Harvey Oswald] was presented to the American public as a demon to heap scorn upon.

Oh, so you're one of them conspiracy theory freaks that Bob the florist hates so much, huh?
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 17:23:26 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#93. To: Dakmar (#89)
Almost all the child molesters, dog fuckers, and beer steeling neighbors I ever encountered drove a Pacer at one time or another.

Okie dokie. But seriously, the drugs truly are the common element in the documented cases I linked. I'd say virtually all of the high profile cases over the past 10 or 15 years have been the result of psychiatric meds.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 17:25:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#94. To: Esso (#92)
Bob the florist hates so much, huh?

I don't hate anyone, and I'm not the florist. I run the computer and deliveries. I can make small arraignments, though.
Get your insults straight.
There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
Turtle posted on 2012-12-14 17:25:37 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#95. To: Original_Intent (#83)
I think you're on to something Dak.
Or is that on something?

I'm completely stoned, to be honest. No one should take my posts seriously for the next couple hours. :)
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:25:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#96. To: Esso (#92)
Oh, so you're one of them conspiracy theory freaks that Bob the florist hates so much, huh?

I already burned all my Texas Schoolbook Depository Coloring Books, Christ, what do you people expect of me?
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:28:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#97. To: FormerLurker (#93)
Okie dokie. But seriously, the drugs truly are the common element in the documented cases I linked.

I tend to agree, but craziness has a thousand bastard fathers.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:30:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#98. To: All (#90) (Edited)
i got to say that the whole thing is pretty comical... there's a surge in gun sales, so something happens like this to justify gun control.
it's just one backfire after another, and it's hard to believe these people are as stupid as they seem to be.
it looks to me like they'll take as many guns as then can, then arm factions so they can kill each other... it will be a replay of all the bullshit we're seeing now globally, as factions are pitted against one another so we can intervene and save them from themselves...
...and just incidentally secure oil, pipeline and tanker routes, and israel all at the same time.
i believe in coincidences if there arent to many of them... there's been way too many coincidences

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 17:31:24 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#99. To: lead.and.lag (#98)
i got to say that the whole thing is pretty comical... there's a surge in gun sales, so something happens like this to justify gun control.

Guns are bad...mmmkay! If you buy a gun, you're bad.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:35:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#100. To: FormerLurker (#88)
...a list of over 4800 documented cases related to SSRIs and other psychiatric drugs...

At least it's not like a lot of them then, eh?
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 17:36:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#101. To: Dakmar (#99) (Edited)
If you buy a gun, you're bad.

...unless you buy it from your friendly neighborhood imperial arms dealer, who's also selling arms to your worst enemy... "your worst enemy" as defined by the imperial mass media, which intends to start civil wars in the US as the last looting opportunities dwindle.

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 17:37:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#102. To: Esso (#100)
I first went insane reading Mad Magazine in 1974. Where is my social worker?
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:37:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#103. To: lead.and.lag (#90)
is this a chicken/egg situation?
which came first, the deterioration of the society or the drugs?
is normal, healthy behavior (disgust at the direction we're heading) being diagnosed as mental illness?
or are people being driven truly nuts by the culture

We live in a society that is constantly bombarded not only by violent angry messages on television and in movies, but by "advertisers" who are pushing extremely dangerous drugs on television as if they could cure all sorts of things, sort of like a modern day snake oil.
What I've noticed is that although some people may have issues, 99% of the time it is those who have taken these psychiatric drugs who commit these random acts of violence against innocent victims. Sure there is violence without drugs, whether it be for profit or pure racial hatred, or for personal animosity against another specific person, but mass murder against random people is usually the result of someone on these drugs.
This is not something which should be ignored, and if our government were truly concerned for the safety of our society, they would take steps to reduce and eventually eliminate these drugs from the market. But since the pharmacutecal companies own the FDA and those who work for it, along with the politicians who are supposed to represent us, that will never happen.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 17:38:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#104. To: Dakmar (#99) (Edited)
If you buy a gun, you're bad.

Then I'm changing my handle from "X-15" to "I Am Legion!": fear me....

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-14 17:38:29 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#105. To: Esso (#100)
At least it's not like a lot of them then, eh?

WAY too many to be coincidence, that's for sure.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-14 17:40:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#106. To: lead.and.lag (#101)
...unless you buy it from your friendly neighborhood arms dealer, who's also selling arm to your worst enemy... "your worst enemy" as defined by the imperial mass media, who intends to start civil wars in the US as the last looting opportunities dwindle.

In that case, I suggest you kick back, Celebrate Multicultural Diversity, and think of England.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:40:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#107. To: X-15 (#104)
Then I'm changing my handle from "X-15" to "I Am Legion!"

I thought about changing mine to "I am become death" but became upset about subject/predicate agreement.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:42:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#108. To: FormerLurker (#103)
...if our government were truly concerned for the safety of our society, they would take steps to reduce and eventually eliminate these drugs from the market.

the government has written the society off... the only people left in government are looters, racial supremacists and religious fanatics.
note that those categories are not mutually exclusive... they overlap, they're united in a belief that we've shot our wad...
they differ in their final goals... the looters are easy to understand, the racists want the rest of the world to bow to their supremacy, the religious fanatics expect some kind of messiah.
too damn bad israelis and neocons seem to combine all three... they'd like to save israel, but in a pinch, enough loot to buy refuge someplace will have to do.

lead.and.lag posted on 2012-12-14 17:45:52 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#109. To: Dakmar (#102)
Where is my social worker?

I'm right here, dummy. Now go take your Prozac, Paxil and Adderol and check your mail. There should be a package for you. It's about 4" x 12" x 36" and labelled "Fragile - Not a sniper rifle or anything like that".
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 17:46:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#110. To: Esso (#109) (Edited)
Screw you, Stand Opposed! I won't take any of that! The last time I took Adderol I rented a frontloader and took a 14' section out of my roof where I tried to mount a windmill that looked just like the dutch stripper that worked for the cocoa concern, but obviously that failed since there are no pictures of it, right?
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 17:56:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#111. To: Jethro Tull, 4um (#34)
A tearful Kenyan just announced "meaningful action" will be taken shortly to correct these shootings.

I sure fucking hope so, Tom. It's time to employ the Shawshank Gambit, "Get busy livin', or get busy dyin'."
Ban all guns, make it a capital offense to possess one unless you're a goob, raise taxes to 100% unless you're a jewBankster or zioPol, ban cigarettes & alcohol, make any & all vaccines mandatory, chip everybody, declare martial law, open up the FEMA Freedom & Liberty Camps & fire up the fucking kremas.
Let's get it on already!
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 18:02:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#112. To: FormerLurker (#91)
I think psychiatric meds are an offshoot of MKULTRA. They KNOW there are a good number of people who will react badly to these drugs, and most likely, at least SOME of them ARE programmed at an early age to do exactly what they end up doing.

Correct.
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-14 18:05:38 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#113. To: Dakmar, X-15 (#110)
Did you see that pic of X in post 104? Doesn't look anything like I pictured him at all.
We have some serious revisions to make to our master plan.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 18:06:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#114. To: Esso (#111)
Ban all guns, make it a capital offense to possess one unless you're a goob, raise taxes to 100% unless you're a jewBankster or zioPol, ban cigarettes & alcohol, make any & all vaccines mandatory, chip everybody, declare martial law, open up the FEMA Freedom & Liberty Camps & fire up the fucking kremas.

15% Tax for not singing Obama Mmmmm, Mmmmmm, Mmmmm! song!
Pay at your leisure.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 18:07:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#115. To: hondo68 (#70)
What a fucking crybaby. I love how the MSM "enhances" the sound of camera shutters tripping in order to drive home the "seriousness" and "urgency" of the "crisis". I'll bet reporters were just sitting there tripping their camera shutters purely as background noise.
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-14 18:10:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#116. To: FormerLurker, Dakmar, Original_Intent, Lod, Turtle, Jethro Tull (#105)
Newtown school shooting story already being changed by the media to eliminate eyewitness reports of a second shooter
Eyewitness reports of a second shooter now being "scrubbed" from the news
As the story of this shooting was first breaking, the news was reporting a second gunman.

FoxNews reported that this second gunman was "led out of the woods by officers" and then questioned. The original source of this report was the Connecticut Post.

A local CBS affiliate was also reporting the existence of a second gunman and said "Police believe there may be a second gunman and are looking for a red or maroon van with its back window blown out..."

ABC News also originally reported, "A second gunman is apparently at large. Car-to-car searches are underway."

A local CT CBS affiliate was also reporting, "CBS News reports that a potential second shooter is in custody and that SWAT is now investigating the home of the suspect. A witness tells WFSB-TV that a second man was taken out of the woods in handcuffs wearing a black jacket and camouflage pants and telling parents on the scene, 'I did not do it.'"

But the more recent stories being put out by the media are scrubbing any mention of a second gunman and going with the "lone gunman" explanation, which holds about as much water as the "lone gunman" explanation of the JFK assassination.

"A lone gunman killed 27 people at an elementary school here, including 18 children, in a terrifying early Friday morning shooting spree," reports USA Today. It makes no mention whatsoever of a second gunman.

NBC News is also now chiming in with the "lone gunman" version of the story, eliminating any mention of a second gunman from its coverage of the tragic event.

Another story authored by NBC News carries the title, "26 dead after lone gunman assaults Connecticut elementary school." Once again, no mention of a second gunman as reported by eyewitnesses.
During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act.
Bill D Berger posted on 2012-12-14 18:12:15 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#117. To: Esso, X-15 (#113)
Did you see that pic of X in post 104? Doesn't look anything like I pictured him at all.

And here I was fearing I'd look dorky for posting pictures of my slot car racetrack.
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 18:12:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#118. To: Lod (#112)
I guess that puts you in the CT camp that has someone's knickers in a serious twist, Loddy my man.
Welcome to the party, pal!

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 18:14:18 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#119. To: Shoonra (#11)
Are you going to respond to any of the dozen or so comments about your post, or just run away with your tail between your legs again?

Big Meanie posted on 2012-12-14 18:16:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#120. To: Bill D Berger (#116)
Eyewitness reports of a second shooter now being "scrubbed" from the news

Gee, that wouldn't be a conspiracy now, would it?
Never would've seen THAT coming.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 18:17:56 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#121. To: Original_Intent (#65)
That was pretty close to my thoughts. You can count on it being buried but at some point someone will report that:
A. He was under Psychiatric care.
AND
B. That he was under "Psychiatric medication" i.e., some form of anti-depressant SSRI.
Of course the lamestream Nooze Ghouls have gotten tricky about hiding it or slipping it in just in passing,. After all Big Pharma pays a lot of money for advertising.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2012-12-14 18:20:08 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#122. To: Jethro Tull (#77)
These two crying bags of shit are the ones empowered to walk us back off the fiscal cliff.....we're so very fucked.

And we won't even get a kiss either!
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2012-12-14 18:22:36 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#123. To: X-15 (#115)
I love how the MSM "enhances" the sound of camera shutters tripping in order to drive home the "seriousness" and "urgency" of the "crisis"

The GOP should hire more licensed photographers, yes, that's the solution.
Care to donate some money? You'll be defeating the evil branch of the one party system!
"I am not one of those weak-spirited, sappy Americans who want to be liked by all the people around them. I don’t care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do. The important question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it." - William S Burroughs
Dakmar posted on 2012-12-14 18:30:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#124. To: Dakmar (#123)
Sorry, I've got a bit more ammo to buy online while I still can.....
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-14 18:40:55 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#125. To: 4um (#0)
The main thread on this at ZeroHedge is north of 1,000 comments now.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 18:58:40 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#126. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
A tearful Kenyan

I guess he wants to kill another 168 kids in Pakistan, and be the mother of all drone murderers.

Lysander_Spooner posted on 2012-12-14 18:59:32 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#127. To: Big Meanie (#14)
Do you think we should stop sending arms to Israel?

Yes. We should send "noses" instead. Their arms are alright but they have some really fucked up noses.
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-14 19:09:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#128. To: Esso, Let's get it on (#111)

Hey E, I'm half dead anyway...yes, let's get it on!

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-14 19:12:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#129. To: James Deffenbach (#15)
Just remember the Republican mantra:

Lately the shooters have been lefties. (They can't whip anybody so they shoot em).
Fuck Shoonra - I have "it" on Bozo ... trying to keep my blood pressure down.
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-14 19:13:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#130. To: Lysander_Spooner (#18)
Home school or die.

Yeah, what is the home school shooting victim count up to thes days ?
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-14 19:15:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#131. To: Lod (#21)
These gun-free zones are just risk-free shooting galleries for the deranged.

Spot on.
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-14 19:15:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#132. To: Jethro Tull (#30)

I'm too short for basketball and don't like shining shoes. Gimme da money, honky.
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-14 19:19:26 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#133. To: Jethro Tull (#34)
A tearful Kenyan just announced "meaningful action" will be taken shortly to correct these shootings.

Home Schools for everyone !
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-14 19:21:11 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#134. To: lead.and.lag (#39)
the guy went there to kill his mother.

Oh, I guess he was just a poor shot then.
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-14 19:23:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#135. To: Lysander_Spooner (#126)
I guess [the tearful Kenyan] wants to kill another 168 kids in Pakistan, and be the mother of all drone murderers.

Only 32 more and his jewZio handlers give him his "Ace" medal and secret decoder ring.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 19:26:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#136. To: RickyJ (#41)
To think I actually voted for the guy in 2000. Just 12 years ago I was a sheep.

Yeah, just think - you could've voted for Kerry.
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-14 19:29:23 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#137. To: Jethro Tull (#128)
Fuckin' red pills, blue pills, got 'em mixed up one day and can't get back now.
"Everybody dies, die standin' up!" - Jed Eckert, Red Dawn
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 19:32:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#138. To: noone222 (#129)
Lately the shooters have been lefties. (They can't whip anybody so they shoot em).
Fuck Shoonra - I have "it" on Bozo ... trying to keep my blood pressure down.

Yeah, after four years you would think anyone with even average intelligence would have learned Obama is NOT a good President, or even an adequate one--and that doesn't even go to the issue that he is not qualified to hold the office. There is not much help for anyone who couldn't figure all that out in four years.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2012-12-14 19:33:03 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#139. To: Esso (#135)
his jewZio handlers give him his "Ace" medal

One of these??:

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-14 19:33:13 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#140. To: James Deffenbach (#138)
Yeah, after four years you would think anyone with even average intelligence would have learned Obama is NOT a good President, or even an adequate one--and that doesn't even go to the issue that he is not qualified to hold the office. There is not much help for anyone who couldn't figure all that out in four years.

bumpit!
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-14 19:40:00 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#141. To: X-15 (#139)
Oh Christ. When you get your next shipment of bullets, put the first one in me, please.
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 19:40:04 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#142. To: Esso (#141) (Edited)
What? And deprive you of the joy of gainful employment in a FEMA- camp?? "Arbeit Macht Frei"........
“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic
X-15 posted on 2012-12-14 19:46:46 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#143. To: Turtle (#94)
Bob the florist

LOL
That's funny.
Is this your logo?

The Second Amendment,
America's way of telling the government
that we don't have to take their sh*t.
Buzzard posted on 2012-12-14 19:53:47 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#144. To: noone222 (#133)

Home school raher than marching like lemmings to their death? Gotta think about that one :)

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-14 19:53:49 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#145. To: noone222 (#136)
Yeah, just think - you could've voted for Kerry.

Kerry? It was Bush vs. Gore in 2000. I think Pat Buchanan was running for the heck of it with some commie black woman too. I liked Pat until he flipped out and proved he was not serious. I knew Bush probably sucked, but at the time I was at least hoping that he would be better than Gore. Like I said, that was before I woke up to the one party system. In 2004, I voted for Petroutka, in 2008, Chuck Baldwin, and for 2012, RON PAUL! I would have voted for Ron Paul in 2008 as well, but since he endorsed Baldwin I voted for him instead.
God is always good!
RickyJ posted on 2012-12-14 19:54:12 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#146. To: noone222 (#132)
I'm too short for basketball and don't like shining shoes. Gimme da money, honky.

That is funny :P

Jethro Tull posted on 2012-12-14 19:55:53 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#147. To: Buzzard (#143)
That is funny!
“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod posted on 2012-12-14 19:56:59 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#148. To: X-15 (#142)
"Arbeit Macht Frei"

Auditing Shooting Rampage Statistics
"The average number of people killed in mass shootings when stopped by police is 14.3
The average number of people killed in a mass shooting when stopped by a civilian is 2.3."
Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)
In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso posted on 2012-12-14 20:06:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#149. To: RickyJ (#145)
It was Bush vs. Gore in 2000.

Oh yeah - you're right ... still no choice.
Treason has conspired with Greed and colluded with Murderers to overthrow "OUR" country.
"Bankers" - Kill em all and let Satan sort em out" !!!
noone222 posted on 2012-12-14 20:25:44 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#150. To: Shoonra (#11) (Edited)
Just remember the Republican mantra: "This is not the time to talk about gun laws."
Repeat it over and over. And then repeat it to each of 27 families in Connecticut. Let us know if they agree with you.

I think this defines liberalism, guilt tripping people into accepting it's agenda. The politics of emotional blackmail. We saw the same shit in Ireland recently with the so-called Children's Rights referendum (read: introducing the same legalised child trafficing that the US, UK and Sweden have) and then the Savita Halappanavar case. The journalist, Kathy Holland (whose mother is a feminist and father a member of the SWP), who broke the story later admitted she hadn't all the facts and assumed it was about her dying because she was denied an abortion. The hysteria from both cases was amazing...
Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!
irishthatcherite posted on 2012-12-14 21:22:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#151. To: Bill D Berger (#116)
Eyewitness reports of a second shooter now being "scrubbed" from the news

Do not look at that man behind the curtain!
All is well.
The government black ops people do not orchestrate these kinds of events.
Really.
Sure.
Go back to grazing.
Watch some sports on TV and have another beer.
That is all.
Perseverent Gardener"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2012-12-14 23:53:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#152. To: James Deffenbach (#121)
Very powerful video. It had my stomach turning. I have been looking too long at what these drugs do to people. If I really let myself think about it and what I know I want to scream out in agony. To give these filthy mind control drugs to children to make them conform to a warped standard of "normal" is flat evil.
Perseverent Gardener"“Believe nothing merely because you have been told it. Do not believe what your teacher tells you merely out of respect for the teacher. But whatsoever, after due examination and analysis, you find to be kind, conducive to the good, the benefit, the welfare of all beings - that doctrine believe and cling to, and take it as your guide.” ~ Gautama Siddhartha — The Buddha
Original_Intent posted on 2012-12-15 0:03:57 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#153. To: RickyJ, all (#43) (Edited)
Tell me what law would have prevented this crime?

New law:
Every parent will homeschool their children.
All gov't schools will be converted to a gun store,
gun range and firearms training facility at no
expense to the participant.
Everyone that passes the course will be given a
shotgun, pistol and rifle of their choice, including
a thousand rounds of ammo for each.
In addition, each graduate will be given a student desk,
lunch tray, chalk board and computer.
BAN ALL GOV'T SCHOOLS
NOT GUNS, YOU FOOLS
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Dollar DVD Project Liberty needs patriot activists
to help wake the town and tell the people. Do your
friends and family know what you know?
wakeup posted on 2012-12-15 0:24:50 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#154. To: Turtle (#94)
arraignments

you don't send me arraignments anymore...

christine posted on 2012-12-15 0:46:09 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#155. To: Turtle (#60)
No, I'm smart and can see the truth. Only the sheep believe in non-existent conspiracies.

you make me grit my teeth.

christine posted on 2012-12-15 0:52:28 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#156. To: Jethro Tull (#144)
I've planned on homeschooling since before I started breeding.

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As I look at those kids I can't help but to think how certain they must be that their UNARMED teachers are gonna get them killed.
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-15 0:54:07 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#157. To: Big Meanie (#14)
Do you think we should stop sending arms to Israel?

brilliant question.

christine posted on 2012-12-15 1:08:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#158. To: All (#157) (Edited)
4um needs a Like button under each post. i would have clicked a bunch of them on this thread.

christine posted on 2012-12-15 1:11:14 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#159. To: christine (#158)
God no, Your thing aint broke , dont fix it.
_______________________________________________________________________________ The US government has declared civil war on itself. Its lust for war grew so great... Liberty before death. We run , we live, We fight again, till we win. We did not start this fight. We damn sure did not willingly pay our taxes to buy the bullets and drones that shall be used to kill us. We will correct the violations of this rogue nation....our rogue nation. We will fix this because nobody else can. You will work to help me help us all to fix this failure. After you're done educating yourself,Take Action!!!
titorite posted on 2012-12-15 1:11:58 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#160. To: christine (#158)
4um needs a Like button under each post. i would have clicked a bunch of them on this thread.

Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!
irishthatcherite posted on 2012-12-15 1:41:48 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#161. To: Shoonra (#11)

christine posted on 2012-12-15 1:42:29 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#162. To: irishthatcherite (#160)
uh huh. :)

christine posted on 2012-12-15 1:43:33 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#163. To: christine, irishthatcherite (#162)
I have one in my photobucket ready for use.

The advantage of exercising every day is so when you die, they'll say, 'Well, he looks good doesn't he?'
farmfriend posted on 2012-12-15 1:48:18 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#164. To: farmfriend, christine (#163)
As long as 4um doesn't get Timelined... lol
Facebook's Timeline means people can follow me chronologically having a meltdown over the stupid fucking Timeline!!
irishthatcherite posted on 2012-12-15 3:54:02 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#165. To: All (#164) (Edited)
As long as 4um doesn't get Timelined... lol

Which reminds me, I better change my tagline, a little bit silly I think. lol
The first and most important thing that needs to be done to fix the economy - scrap centralised fractional reserve banking and thus scrap the inflationary system and monopolised control of currency.
irishthatcherite posted on 2012-12-15 3:57:43 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#166. To: irishthatcherite, farmfriend, christine (#164)
As long as 4um doesn't get Timelined... lol

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz posted on 2012-12-15 10:39:59 ET (1 image) Reply Trace Private Reply
#167. To: christine (#161)
If I remember correctly, Del Shannon had been on anti-depressants one day, then got up in the middle of the night and shot himself. Of course, he was sleep-walking and did not know what he was doing. Many people have said they've taken their first dose and woke up three days later with no memory of what they did during that time.
There are actually govt agents who spread conspiracy theories among the gullible to help promote the illusion that the govt is all powerful.
Turtle posted on 2012-12-15 12:48:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#168. To: Esso (#135)
his "Ace" medal and secret decoder ring.

Woops I thought the Drone Murderer in Chief already had them with his "Piece" Prize.

Lysander_Spooner posted on 2012-12-15 14:40:42 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#169. To: christine (#161)
Great expose on the true cause for the insanity in our society. I doubt the talking heads and politicians will be calling for a ban on mood altering psychiatric meds anytime this century though, unfortunately, they'll be hammering on "gun control" instead.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
FormerLurker posted on 2012-12-15 14:52:41 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#170. To: irishthatcherite (#164)
did you ever try timelineremove? i use it on one of my laptops.

christine posted on 2012-12-17 21:33:01 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#171. To: christine (#170)
did you ever try timelineremove? i use it on one of my laptops.

I use this:
www.socialreviver.net/
The first and most important thing that needs to be done to fix the economy - scrap centralised fractional reserve banking and thus scrap the inflationary system and monopolised control of currency.
irishthatcherite posted on 2012-12-19 3:22:31 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#172. To: FormerLurker (#169) (Edited)
I doubt the talking heads and politicians will be calling for a ban on mood altering psychiatric meds anytime this century though, unfortunately, they'll be hammering on "gun control" instead.

You are right. MSM says over and over again: guns are evil. Mental case wack jobs are fine and that's why lefty airheads insist that nutjobs are "normal" and should be mainstreamed into regular classes in public schools...what's wrong with that picture?
Btw, the 1968 federal gun control legislation is decent enough if it were applied properly - doesn't hurt 2nd amendment citizens and protects the general welfare of us lowy pigs- however, mood altering meds MUST be added to the 1968 leg's no-no list.

scrapper2 posted on 2012-12-19 3:58:39 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
#173. To: christine, Turtle (#154)
you don't send me arraignments anymore...

You might have to take him and "prostrate him before the jerdge" as the white boy who used to do Shirley Q. Liquor said.
Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end. Lord Acton
The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi
"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken
"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..." Lawrence M. Vance
Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)
James Deffenbach posted on 2012-12-19 9:39:45 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
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