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Title: BREAKING NEWS: CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL
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Published: Dec 16, 2012
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Post Date: 2012-12-16 01:40:14 by Itistoolate
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The father of Newtown Connecticut school shooter Adam Lanza is Peter Lanza who is a VP and Tax Director at GE Financial. The father of Aurora Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes is Robert Holmes, the lead scientist for the credit score company FICO. Both men were to testify before the US Sentate in the ongoing LIBOR scandal. The London Interbank Offered Rate, known as Libor, is the average interest rate at which banks can borrow from each other. 16 international banks have been implicated in this ongoing scandal, accused of rigging contracts worth trillions of dollars. HSBC has already been fined $1.9 billion and three of their low level traders arrested. BREAKING NEWS: CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL Poster Comment:
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#1. To: Itistoolate (#0)
My question would be, how did they trigger these individuals to act as they did, when they did?
Was researching the Clackamas/Portland, Oregon Mall shooting and I think this video shows (at the 0:33 seconds mark) the same sort of Century Cinemas sign there as the Colorado shooting: Mall gunman ID’d as families mourn victims - Video on TODAY.com Visit NBCNews.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
The Real TRUE SOURCE of RANDOM MASS SHOOTINGS and VIOLENCE
Watched the video, thanks, and don't dispute it but think that something else is going on too. The psychotropic drugging of our society, compounded with numerous traumatic shocks -- especially to children -- of horrors like maniacal shooters, alleged 9/11 snuff-footage, the OKC bombing, Waco, etc., which ramps up the "psychotherapy" and psychotropic drugging industries even more under the guise of "coping treatments"...it's like a mass MKULTRA formula to destroy our nation and that should be investigated more than it has been; as organized Acts of War against us, not just random acts of violence or random acts of drug-induced violence. Edited for spelling and spacing. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
HSBC Couldn't Track $60 Trillion in Suspicious Activity?.
Correct. “The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken Jonathan Lowy That info was found while I was researching the recent Clackamas/Portland, Oregon mall shooting for a possible link to Frank Lowy; Westfield mall magnate, WTC mall owner and Larry Siverstein's business partner. That Forbes link states that he owns a think tank and also an aviation museum -- somewhat of an odd coincidence, considering the 9/11 WTC scenario, which resulted in much insurance money paid to him as well as Silverstein. He does not have a son named Jonathan but has a brother named John so was not able to rule out that Brady-activist, Jonathan Lowy, might be a nephew or otherwise related. The Clackamas mall is owned by General Growth Properties and is not listed among Frank Lowy's Westfield Group shopping centers. However, he does have one nearby in the Vancouver, Washington area, which is in the Portland-Vancouver Metropolitan area; about 6 miles or so separating those cities. Cinetopia is the name of his mall theaters. He does not have a mall listed in Aurora, Colorado but does have one in Aurora, Illinois. The Clackamas mall, which isn't listed as one of Lowy's, had an ice rink where Olympic villain, Tanya Harding, practiced. However, This link notes that Lowy, in addition to fighting against the British during Briain's Palestine Mandate, that his "newest project of renown" is "Westfield Stratford City which is the gate through which you enter the Olympic sites." Since he fought against the British, it does not seem improbable that he might be involved too in fighting against our Republic. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
In addition to a mall listed in Fairfield, California, he also has one listed in Fairfield County, Connecticut where the Newtown school shooting reportedly occurred. Edit to cross-reference info on Fairfield County, Connecticut at Post #29 of 4um Title: GEORGE BUSH, 88, PLEADS LET ME DIE AT HOME! ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Noting here that the last names of the two victims reported to have been killed in the recent Clackamas mall shooting are: Forsyth: sounds like foresight. Yuille: sounds like Yule/Winter Solstice/Yuletide/Feast of the Nativity of Jesus Christ/Christmas. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
HSBC Couldn't Track $60 Trillion in Suspicious Activity?.
Kristina Shevchenko, 15, was hospitalized Tuesday night after being shot by a gunman at Clackamas Town Center in Portland, Ore. By Elizabeth Chuck, NBC News Kristina Shevchenko, 15, was rushed to a hospital Tuesday in critical condition after a masked gunman sprayed bullets around a suburban Portland, Ore., mall during the height of holiday shopping season, piercing her chest. After surgery, she was in stable condition, according to a statement from her family. Somewhat similarly, one of the reported victims killed in the Aurora, Colorado shooting -- an aspiring sportscaster by the last name of Ghawi aka Redfield -- allegedly had survived another shooting just weeks before that at Eaton Center mall in Toronto, where 7 were said to have been injured and one killed. Her aunt was involved in some media fracas. Toronto Eaton Centre -- not a mall associated with Frank Lowy, afaik. Cineplex is the name of the theaters there. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
It could be neither did anything, but were framed. There were multiple reports of more than one shooter in Colorado, and the initial reports from Connecticut said there were two shooters, one dead, and one that was on the run. God is always good!
Re: Kristina Shevchenko, alleged victim survivor of the Clackamas mall shooting, and additional info possibly related to organized PsyOp/BlackOp attacks against our nation by agents of foreign powers: Revealed: Anna Chapman's Russian spy ring groomed their American children to be spies - dailymail.co.uk Maybe American towns and cities have not just cells of foreign spies but PsyOp/BlackOp foreign agents too, perhaps even sometimes using children of those rings as acting-participants. Reported at Infowars.com on December 13, 2012: Police Trained for Oregon Mall Shooting On Wednesday, police and mall employees credited that training, along with quick thinking and brave actions by some of the estimated 10,000 people at the mall, for saving lives. “To be familiar with all the back hallways and stairwells in advance really was helpful,” said Clackamas County sheriff’s Capt. Kevin Layng, who coordinated Tuesday’s massive law enforcement response. See also: That mall is not associated with Frank Lowy's Westfield Group either, afaik, but it was having financial problems, as was the Clackamas mall in Portland, Oregon owned by General Growth Properties (formerly by the Bucksbaum family; current CEO Adam Metz) and here are some related 4um posts about that from years back: Posted 2009-04-16, 4um Title: General Growth Properties [Mall Operator] Files for Bankruptcy Posted 2010-05-24, 4um Title: Thomas Friedman, NY Times, Wishes to be China for one day ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I watched that video at Post #5. This article might be relevant to it. It opens with: "A trillion-dollar storm is gathering over the commercial real estate landscape that's threatening to add further pain to an already bruised US economy." Also mentions the financial dilemmas of the Portland, Oregon Clackamas mall owners and others in the mall business. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Kristina Shevchenko From the usnews.nbcnews.com link and regarding the issue of possible PsyOp/BlackOp foreign agents here that might be using children of those rings as acting-participants: Some posts from a 4um Search for "Clackamas", in chronological order, with special attention to the SPLC info listed last as the most recent: Posted 2007-09-12, 4um Title: Teacher demands to carry gun in school Posted 2010-01-07, 4um Title: JUDAISM OUR NATIONAL RELIGION Posted 2010-07-22, 4um Title: IS ISRAEL WIRETAPPING AMERICA Posted 2011-02-26, 4um Title: Active ‘Patriot’ Groups in the United States in 2010 (The SPLC's Hit Parade) Emissary Publications CONNECTICUT (8) -- where Committees of Safety were established in recent years by Patriot Walter Reddy. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Forsyth: sounds like foresight. Yuille: sounds like Yule/Winter Solstice/Yuletide/Feast of the Nativity of Jesus Christ/Christmas. NBC report on Clackamas - Yuille's stepson interviewed. Similar to many examples re: Sandy Hook Elementary school in Connecticut, he does not appear traumatized or bereaved. Describes her at 1:19 as "too nice": Mall gunman ID'd as families mourn victima [3 mins.] Visit NBCNews.com for breaking news, world news, and news about the economy ------------ Noting here that the last name of this alleged father of a 3rd grade student-survivor at Sandy Hook Elementary school in Connecticut sounds like Judas: Stephen Delgiudice interview -- obeyed the speed limit during drive to the school; cursing heard on the loudspeaker Sandy Hook Elementary School Newtown Ct December 14, 2012 , Ryan Lanza Connecticut - YouTube [6.5 mins.] Noting here also that Connecticut is the State where Obama's reportedly fraudulent Social Security number was issued. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Kristina Shevchenko, 15; alleged victim-survivor of Clackamas Town Center Mall shooting in Portland, Oregon on Dec 8, 2012. ------------ Victoria Soto, 27; alleged Sandy Hook Elementary School teacher-victim on Dec 14, 2012. Noting a resemblance. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
At 3:01 of the above video, it looks like a gurney is being loaded into an ambulance but who or what is being transported on it, if anything, is unclear. The point is the traffic jam there that would prevent a quick exit to a hospital, if necessary, in a real emergency -- especially the EMS vehicles in that area. Also, I guess we're supposed to just presume that the people in military-type uniforms and helmets at both of the scenes in Connecticut and Oregon are National Guards but at 0:44-0:49 of the Oregon video below, some look like they're wearing blue jeans: Oregon Mall Shooting: Woman on Heroic Act by Macy's Employee at Clackamas Town Center - YouTube [3.25 mins.] Noting here that both alleged shooters, Jacob Roberts and Adam Lanza, were reported (for added fear-factor?) as wearing military-styled clothing. Edited 2nd paragraph to insert the word blue and for timestamp formatting there. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I know you thread the walls of the deep end GL, but really? Do you honestly believe that? At 3:01 of the above video, it looks like a gurney is being loaded into an ambulance but who or what is being transported on it, if anything, is unclear. The point is the traffic jam there that would prevent a quick exit to a hospital, if necessary, in a real emergency -- especially the EMS vehicles in that area. YouTube: Ambulances and first responders blocked in at Sandy Hook elementary. Mirror from MsSherrieLea Noting here also, 4um Title cross-reference: Agenda Prevails Over Truth ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I know you thread the walls of the deep end GL, but really? Do you honestly believe that? Yes, I believe there is a resemblance -- enough that they could be closely related, if not one and the same or photoshop presentations. That's why I made note of it. I also once noted in a Pentagon 9/11 thread a resemblance between this guy on the lawn there and the alleged husband of alleged Flt. 93 Attendant, Cee Cee Lyles but I don't recall you commenting so about that or at all: ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Oregon Mall Shooting Woman on Heroic Act by Macy's Employee at Clackamas Town Center - YouTube [3.25 mins.] Cross-referencing Post #35 of 4um Title: "Sandy Hook massacre Official story spins out of control" for comparative video and pictorial examples of Connecticut Militarized State Police. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Noted another resemblance (somewhat) of possible Newtown, Connecticut Crisis Actors-hoaxing under consideration by me at Post #107 of 4um Title: Sandy Hook Hoax "Medical Examiner" Wayne Carver Edited for spelling. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Well it must have been awhile ago, but just because both guys are black, thin, and bald, doesn't mean they're the same guy. As far as the woman and the girl you think look alike, well they're both female and have dark hair. Other than that, are you serious? They all look the same, FL. ;) Seriously though... not the same people GLm imho The 15 year old girl has different cheek bone structure, different eye color (brown instead of blue) and shape, has a different nasal structure, and appears somewhat heavy, whereas 27 year old teacher Victoria Soto is slim, and is certainly not a 15 year old girl. If you can't tell a 15 year old from a 27 year old, you have a few issues GL. This is the sort of thing which really brings your credibility into question. 15 year old Kristina Shevchenko 27 year old Victoria Soto Lots of people change their natural eyecolor with contact lenses. Make all the snide insults you want but you're the one bringing your credibility into question by playing dumb about that, even though Soto's eyes don't look blue at all in the middle pic of her that you posted yourself. You have no actual proof that the first pic posted, said to be 15 year old Kristina Shevchenko, isn't of Soto at that age, with weight and features altered by aging. Nor that the photos in question aren't possibly photoshopped to appear as two different people, so as to be convincing enough to official storyliners like you. Photographic morphing technology is not futuristic sci-fi fancy. It exists in the present. Odd that of all the things I've commented on in this thread of more importance -- Connecticut being the State of issuance for Obama's fraudulent Social Security number and Militarized State Police, for examples -- you choose to argue about what I thought I had already explained plainly and reasonably: that I see enough of a resemblance that the females in question could be closely related, if not the same person or photoshop presentations. Did you understand it that time? -- because it happens to be very relevant to the info I posted at #13 above regarding rings of PsyOp/BlackOp covert-agents of foreign powers here, with corroborative examples from 3 MSM news sources (2 here and 1 abroad). That being of serious concern to me doesn't hinge on whether or not you agree or on how low your opinion of me goes. Edited for spelling and grammar. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
OMFG GL, give it a break. The chubby little 15 year old who survived the mall shooting in Oregon is not the same person as the slender 27 year old who got shot to death. If you can't tell the difference between the two, no wonder you see things that aren't there in the 9/11 videos. You have no actual proof that the first pic posted, said to be 15 year old Kristina Shevchenko, isn't of Soto at that age, with weight and features altered by aging Are you f'in high? YOU posted the first photo of that girl, but found one which was only of her face rather than one which included her upper torso. Are you saying the girl aged 12 years in 5 days (12/8 mall shooting vs 12/14 school shooting)? Keep smoking whatever it is you're smoking, soon you'll be accusing Lady Gaga of being the actual Victoria Soto, using Photoshop in images online of her to make herself look different. imho Thanks for your input, wud. The pics are not good comparative angles but I do see similarities of the ear, chin and slope of the nose -- enough that I can't rule out that they might be the same person. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
I don't think you even have a point other than to be a mudslinging noisemaker. So what if the pic I posted of the girl didn't include the entire torso? She looks chubbier there than the pic you posted, which makes her look even more similar to the slimmer Soto pics; so that doesn't really help your argument any. I most certainly never said that the girl aged 12 years in 5 days and your question as if I did is an example of why your post is just nonsensical flack. Edited for punctuation. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Added bracketed insert to clarify in case others didn't understand what I meant. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
This might be the time for you to exit stage left. Seriously, if you see a resemblance there then I guess you must think all the videos of Bin-Laden were really him instead of an actor which is apparent to most thinking people. God is always good!
I guess maybe you think that high-level hoaxings are just about bin Laden. If so, perhaps you should follow your own directions at sentence 1. ------- "They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC
Because our government might lie about 911,bin laden,the weapons of mass destruction, Oswald, and on and on BUT IM SURE THEY'D NEVER LIE ABOUT THIS! Duuuuuuuuu ___FIRE
Stop telling others to take a break.. If you don't like her insight Fuck off and don't bitch about it.... I don't agree with everything everyone posts and I might even post counter arguments... But at some point you gotta realize the futility of trying to win an argument through insults. Just because you disagree with an assessment by someone else doesn't mean you gotta blast the fuck outta them. Try letting it go sometime. ___FIRE
I guess the Sandy Hook case isn't bizarre enough for GL, where the possible multiple shooters, murder weapon locked in the trunk of a drug dealer's car, and conflicting reports of whether Lanza's mother worked at the school and was shot there or didn't work at the school and was shot in her home, just isn't sexy enough for GL. No, we need to have a 15 year old girl who survived a mall shooting on 12/8/2012 actually be a 27 year old school teacher who was shot at the Sandy Hook school on 12/14/2012, having worked there for three years. So I guess the 15 year old stuffed her bra and started working at the school when she was 12, put on weight and flew out to Oregon just for the occasion last month, then flew back to Sandy Hook, losing all that weight so nobody would be the wiser, just so that she could get shot on cue. Yep, whatever it is GL is smoking must be some REALLY REALLY good shit. Why am I not surprised you agree that a chubby 15 year old girl who survived a mall shooting is the same person as the 27 year old teacher who was shot at Sandy Hook. You truly are a fucking fool. So fucking what ?!?! What kind of fucked up sick Jollys are you getting off of ripping on the ladies observations? Stop cutting everyone down just because you dislike their conclusions. Being a crass jackhole that has to make him self feel better at the attempted expense of others feelings is bullshit. ___FIRE
You know, if you two wish to start your own forum with headlines such as "Hillary Clinton is really Bill Clinton's twin brother", go right ahead, but if you post shit like that here, you can both expect people to call you on it. If neither one of you wish to be critiqued for what you write, try thinking about what you are saying before you hit the post button. Otherwise, anything you write is fair game. If what you write has merit, you'd get discussion, but when you sling outrageous comments against the wall to see if it'll stick, and no matter HOW ridiculous your rants, you stomp your feet like little babies if anyone tells you just how ridiculous your claims are, you not only have some issues, it appears you are TROLLING. blahblahblah Being a crass jackhole that has to make him self feel better at the attempted expense of others feelings is bullshit. Till your recent two posts the discussion was civil. If you wish to be a foul mouthed retard with no class at all, well, you've already shown your colors, where it is you who has just pushed this thread into that direction.
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"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#2. To: Itistoolate, All (#0)
WHAT A COINCIDENCE-The RED HEADED GOOGLE EYED BATMAN KILLER, JAMES HOLMES is the SON of the key witness in the ROTHSCHILD LIBOR Banking Scandal
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50185079
#3. To: GreyLmist (#2)
#4. To: Itistoolate, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#3)
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#5. To: GreyLmist (#4)
#6. To: GreyLmist (#4)
...it's like a mass MKULTRA formula to destroy our nation and that should be investigated more than it has been; as organized Acts of War against us, not just random acts of violence or random acts of drug-induced violence.
#7. To: Lod, Itistoolate, All (#6)
Mr. Lowy is Director of the Legal Action Project of the Brady Center to Prevent Gun Violence. He represents communities whose gun laws are challenged in the courts, and victims who have been injured by gun industry negligence, including victims of the DC-area sniper shootings. He is a graduate of Harvard College and the University of Virginia School of Law.
#8. To: All (#7)
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Frank Lowy's Westfield Group shopping centers
#9. To: All (#2)
Mall gunman ID’d as families mourn victims - Video on TODAY.com
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50185079
#10. To: GreyLmist (#9)
#11. To: All (#9)
Mall gunman ID’d as families mourn victims - Video on TODAY.com http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50185079
Updated at 1:30 p.m. ET -- A teenager from Oregon faces a “long road to recovery” after surviving her second brush with death in just the past few months.
#12. To: FormerLurker (#1)
My question would be, how did they trigger these individuals to act as they did, when they did?
#13. To: All (#8)
info on Fairfield County, Connecticut at Post #29 of 4um Title: GEORGE BUSH, 88, PLEADS LET ME DIE AT HOME!
Excerpting Possibly related info: Russian Spy Ring (2010) - The New York Times
Russian Spy Ring Aimed to Make Children Agents - WSJ.com - article with 3.5 min. audio
Six months before a lone gunman burst into Clackamas Town Center Tuesday, firing dozens of rounds into the crowds of shoppers, police and mall employees trained together for just such an emergency.
A major training exercise based upon a simulated terrorist attack is held in Westmoreland County, Pennsylvania, which neighbors Somerset County where Flight 93 crashes on 9/11. [sic] Tribune-Review reported on the weekend of June 19th, 2001, that the U.S. Department of Defense spent nearly $23,000 to stage a 3-hour event which was called "Exercise Mall Strike 2001": "...Participants in the anti-terrorist drill responded to a fictitious report of an explosion at the Greengate Mall.
Posted 2008-11-11, 4um Title: Mall Owner Is Warning of Default
terror drills being conducted at Mall of America and other malls across America have increased rapidly since 9/11. These drills feature various terror scenerios including active shooters, bombings, and nuclear devices by local, state, federal, and foreign entities. *Not a complete list of mall terror drills
#14. To: Itistoolate (#10)
Posted 2009-05-25, 4um Title: NO NEW LEASE ON TRILLIONS IN DEBT: So far the biggest commercial real estate blow up has been that of REIT General Growth Properties Trust, the second-biggest owner of shopping malls throughout the US. It filed for bankruptcy protection last month. [sic] Chairman: John Bucksbaum
#15. To: All (#11)
usnews.nbcnews.com:
Her family continued to update supporters on her condition via a Facebook page on Wednesday, with her brother, Yevgeniy, writing early in the morning, "The bullet went through bruising her lung, it missed any vital organs and it missed her ribs. She will need 2 more operations. we appreciate any and all support including your prayers! Thank you."
John Birch Society
Many others in the SPLC "hit list" that are not linked to recent shooter traumas but those are.
Aurora [Colorado]
Clackamas [Oregon]
#16. To: All (#9)
Noting here that the last names of the two victims reported to have been killed in the recent Clackamas mall shooting are:
http://video.today.msnbc.msn.com/today/50185079#50185079
#17. To: All (#16)
#18. To: All (#16)
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Stephen Delgiudice interview: Sandy Hook Elementary School Newtown Ct December 14, 2012 , Ryan Lanza Connecticut - YouTube [6.5 mins.]
#19. To: GreyLmist (#17)
Noting a resemblance.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#20. To: All (#18)
Stephen Delgiudice interview: Sandy Hook Elementary School Newtown Ct December 14, 2012 , Ryan Lanza Connecticut - YouTube [6.5 mins.]
Published on Dec 14, 2012 by Standonarock
Where are all the injured children and how are they getting them out of the
school and to the hospital?
How much is real and how much isn't? There are reports that when emergency medical help arrived at the school, the medical personnel were denied access to the children on the grounds that there were no survivors and the scene was too gruesome. Yet, there is a conflicting story that one six-year old girl had the presence of mind to play dead and walked out of her classroom unscathed. If the story is true, how do we know that other survivors did not bleed to death from wounds because the emergency medical personnel were denied access? Did police exercise more control over the scene than was warranted?
#21. To: FormerLurker (#19)
Noting a resemblance.
#22. To: All (#18)
I guess we're supposed to just presume that the people in military-type uniforms and helmets at both of the scenes in Connecticut and Oregon are National Guards but at 0:44-0:49 of the Oregon video below, some look like they're wearing blue jeans:
#23. To: All (#21)
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#24. To: GreyLmist (#21)
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I also once noted in a Pentagon 9/11 thread a resemblance between this guy on the lawn there and the alleged husband of alleged Flt. 93 Attendant, Cee Cee Lyles but I don't recall you commenting so about that or at all:
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#25. To: FormerLurker, GreyLmist (#24)
Well it must have been awhile ago, but just because both guys are black, thin, and bold, doesn't mean they're the same guy.
"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry
#26. To: GreyLmist (#17)
Noting a resemblance.
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#27. To: FormerLurker (#26)
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The 15 year old girl has different cheek bone structure, different eye color (brown instead of blue) and shape, has a different nasal structure, and appears somewhat heavy, whereas 27 year old teacher Victoria Soto is slim, and is certainly not a 15 year old girl. If you can't tell a 15 year old from a 27 year old, you have a few issues GL. This is the sort of thing which really brings your credibility into question.
#28. To: GreyLmist (#27)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#29. To: wudidiz (#25)
not the same people GLm
#30. To: FormerLurker (#28)
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Are you f'in high? YOU posted the first photo of that girl, but found one which was only of her face rather than one which included her upper torso. Are you saying the girl aged 12 years in 5 days (12/8 mall shooting vs 12/14 school shooting)?
#31. To: FormerLurker, All (#27)
Me to FL: You have no actual proof that the first pic posted, said to be 15 year old Kristina Shevchenko, isn't of Soto at that age, with weight and features altered [through the years] by aging.
#32. To: GreyLmist (#17)
Noting a resemblance.
#33. To: RickyJ (#32)
This might be the time for you to exit stage left. Seriously, if you see a resemblance there then I guess you must think all the videos of Bin-Laden were really him instead of an actor which is apparent to most thinking people.
#34. To: RickyJ (#32)
This might be the time for you to exit stage left. Seriously, if you see a resemblance there then I guess you must think all the videos of Bin-Laden were really him instead of an actor which is apparent to most thinking people.
#35. To: FormerLurker (#28)
#36. To: RickyJ (#32)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#37. To: titorite (#35)
If you don't like her insight Fuck off and don't bitch about it
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#38. To: FormerLurker (#36)
#39. To: titorite, GreyLmist (#35)
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
#40. To: titorite (#38)
What kind of fucked up sick Jollys are you getting off of ripping on the ladies observations?
"The real deal is this: the ‘royalty’ controlling the court, the ones with the power, the ones with the ability to make a difference, with the ability to change our course, the ones who will live in infamy if we pass the tipping points, are the captains of industry, CEOs in fossil fuel companies such as EXXON/Mobil, automobile manufacturers, utilities, all of the leaders who have placed short-term profit above the fate of the planet and the well-being of our children." - James Hansen
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