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Title: Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control
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URL Source: http://www.sott.net/article/254873- ... ial-story-spins-out-of-control
Published: Dec 19, 2012
Author: Niall Bradley
Post Date: 2012-12-19 02:55:53 by farmfriend
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Sandy Hook massacre: Official story spins out of control

Niall Bradley
Sott.net
Tue, 18 Dec 2012 17:21 CST

The massacre of 20 children and 7 adults at the Sandy Hook elementary school last Friday was one more in a long line of atrocious mass murders committed in the USA. By now, four days later, an official version of events has more or less solidified to explain the chain of events. The familiar 'lone gunman' narrative has once more stoked the hot-button issue of gun control and left the general population as clueless as ever as to why people suddenly 'go postal' and target the most vulnerable members of society.

On closer inspection, however, there is clearly more to many of these mass shootings than meets the eye. Very often the earliest reports present information that directly contradicts key foundations of the final 'official' analysis of events. Granted, confusion is natural when a story breaks, but some of the initial reports conflict so completely with the lone gunman narrative that I'm going to compile them here and then try to put this tragedy in a more objective context. In his speech at the Sandy Hook Interfaith Prayer Vigil in Newtown, Connecticut on Sunday night, President Obama quoted the following biblical passage:

"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen, since what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal."

~ 2 Corinthians 4:18

The traumatised Newtown community deserves the facts without the spin. Everyone touched by this brutal event deserves to know what really happened, so let's fix our eyes on what remains unseen...

A 20-year-old 'tech geek' named Adam Lanza is supposed to have snapped early last Friday, December 14th, shot dead his mother Nancy Lanza, loaded her car up with her guns and ammo, then drove it across town to his former school, the Sandy Hook Elementary School, shot dead 27 people in two classrooms and an adjoining hallway, then turned one of his guns on himself.

That's how most will now remember the shooting, but is that actually what happened?

All the child victims were first-graders between the ages of 6 and 7. If there's any saving grace to be found in this event, it's that it was all over within minutes. Police were reportedly on the scene "instantaneously" and by then the shooting had ended. Listed among the slain school teachers and administrative staff was the school principal, 47 year old Dawn Hochsprung. Right here we encounter our first problem:

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#1. To: farmfriend, HOUNDDAWG, 4um (#0) (Edited)

Police were reportedly on the scene "instantaneously" and by then the shooting had ended.

I wonder if they're measuring that in people "instantaneously" or dog "instantaneously"?

1 people instantaneous = 7 dog instantaneouses, you know.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso  posted on  2012-12-19   7:18:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#2. To: farmfriend (#0)

Amazing deconstruction of the official fable at link - thank you.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-19   7:20:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#3. To: Esso (#1)

It was like the feebs were instantaneously on scene 911...

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-19   7:23:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#4. To: farmfriend (#0)

Still no report on what meds he was on if any.

Ada  posted on  2012-12-19   11:03:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#5. To: Esso (#1)

or dog "instantaneously"?

LOL

The advantage of exercising every day is so when you die, they'll say, 'Well, he looks good doesn't he?'

farmfriend  posted on  2012-12-19   11:24:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#6. To: farmfriend (#0)

Remember that only "the rifle" was used on all the victims. If only this rifle was used, and if we try to make this claim fit into the (admittedly fluid) official version of events, then the alleged lone gunman would have had to leave the school, place the rifle back in his trunk, then return inside the school and shoot himself. No one reported any such maneuver on the part of any gunman or gunmen. What we do have, however, is live emergency services radio feed in which we hear that two men have been apprehended and are "proned out" AND live video footage supported by eyewitness testimony showing what appears to be a THIRD man being arrested by police in the woods.

We can see how the authorities' hands are tied because they need to fit all the facts into the usual 'lone gunman' narrative. For that, there can only be ONE rifle and a couple of handguns. The problem is that they have already claimed to find that solitary Bushmaster rifle in the trunk of a car in the school parking lot, so the earliest police reports of a cache of long arms being found inside the school will no longer fit with the lone gunman narrative, especially as they're now saying that he had already opened fire as he burst into the school.

Could "scrawny" 20-year-old Adam Lanza have stormed the school, solo Rambo-style, while carrying "multiple long arms, including rifles and shotguns"? Only one person was wounded. Everyone else who was shot was killed. How could Adam Lanza achieve such deadly accuracy, in such a short length of recorded time?

it isn't possible.

christine  posted on  2012-12-19   19:38:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#7. To: christine (#6)

it isn't possible.

Gun control by January.... the question becomes how much control will be enough for Obummer?

titorite  posted on  2012-12-19   19:42:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#8. To: titorite (#7)

I think you already know the answer to that: total confiscation of all firearms. The commie-lite nigger doesn't settle for less than the whole enchilada.

“With the exception of Whites, the rule among the peoples of the world, whether residing in their homelands or settled in Western democracies, is ethnocentrism and moral particularism: they stick together and good means what is good for their ethnic group."
-Alex Kurtagic

X-15  posted on  2012-12-19   19:45:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#9. To: farmfriend (#5)

Gun control isn't the issue here. The US government would long since have taken measures, quietly, to limit the supply of weapons, the 2nd Amendment of the constitution be damned (it's "just a goddamned piece of paper", remember?), if it was really concerned with limiting civilian access to weapons.

The psychopaths in power have absolutely no compunction about using state terrorism, in this case organising the deliberate massacre of innocent children, to control people. In effect, this is little different from the U.S. government calls counter-insurgency or counter-terrorism in foreign countries, where it attacks innocent civilians to create the impression that they were killed by 'communists', 'terrorists', 'insurgents' or 'militants', with the aim of generating public support for the illusion that the common people need a strong, ruthless government to protect them from the 'evil-doers'. When the common people buy into this manipulation, the end result, as history shows repeatedly, is an overt and brutal police state.

that conclusion is very likely, imo.

christine  posted on  2012-12-19   19:46:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#10. To: christine (#9)

hat conclusion is very likely, imo.

I would have to agree.

The advantage of exercising every day is so when you die, they'll say, 'Well, he looks good doesn't he?'

farmfriend  posted on  2012-12-19   20:40:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#11. To: titorite (#7)

Gun control by January.... the question becomes how much control will be enough for Obummer?

Feinstein is going to help him out and we have a state senator who is going to push for permits to buy ammo.

The advantage of exercising every day is so when you die, they'll say, 'Well, he looks good doesn't he?'

farmfriend  posted on  2012-12-19   20:41:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#12. To: farmfriend (#10)

We're going to have to change your name to CyniFriend.

Godfrey Smith: Mike, I wouldn't worry. Prosperity is just around the corner.
Mike Flaherty: Yeah, it's been there a long time. I wish I knew which corner.
My Man Godfrey (1936)

In an era of breadlines, depression and wars, I tried to help people get away from all the misery...to turn their minds to something else. I wanted to make people happy, if only for an hour. - Busby Berkeley

Esso  posted on  2012-12-19   20:42:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#13. To: Esso, christine (#12)

We're going to have to change your name to CyniFriend.

LOL yep.

The advantage of exercising every day is so when you die, they'll say, 'Well, he looks good doesn't he?'

farmfriend  posted on  2012-12-19   20:42:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#14. To: Ada (#4)

Mainstream reports have noted that he was on meds, but they didnt specify which ones.

"Even to the death fight for truth, and the LORD your God will battle for you". Sirach 4:28

Artisan  posted on  2012-12-19   20:55:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#15. To: Esso, Jethro Tull, farmfriend, HOUNDDAWG, 4um (#1)

Police were reportedly on the scene "instantaneously" and by then the shooting had ended.

It took the police 20 minutes to arrive at the school after receiving the first of several 911 calls from the school.

Count 'em - TWENTY MINUTES - that must set a record for a snail's pace response to a 911 distress call.

Jethro, in your experience, wouldn't you agree that 20 minutes seems inordinately long for a police response to a 911 call especially to one coming from a LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? Strange, no?

lonelyconservative.com/20...ponse-time-at-sandy-hook/

scrapper2  posted on  2012-12-19   22:09:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#16. To: scrapper2, 4 (#15)

Jethro, in your experience, wouldn't you agree that 20 minutes seems inordinately long for a police response to a 911 call especially to one coming from a LOCAL ELEMENTARY SCHOOL? Strange, no?

The response time is absurd scrapper. All one needs to do is look at the size of Newtown on a map, then locate Sandy Hook, then find the furthest possible point away from the school. Lets assume that's where *all* of Newtown's patrol units responded from. With lights and sirens, tops 10-12 mins. Now lets get real and logically assume some units were closer than the furthest point away. That response time should be 3-5 mins, IMO.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2012-12-19   22:24:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#17. To: X-15 (#8)

I think you already know the answer to that: total confiscation of all firearms. The commie-lite nigger doesn't settle for less than the whole enchilada.

If the fucker does it, I expect door to door knocks to come first and the press conference announcing that decision to come second.

I don't think we are there yet... then again caution is better in some instances.

titorite  posted on  2012-12-19   22:40:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#18. To: titorite (#17) (Edited)

If the fucker does it, I expect door to door knocks to come first and the press conference announcing that decision to come second.

I don't think we are there yet... then again caution is better in some instances.

The media MK ultra is fronting a theme of what** gets identified as a Military assault weapon,
and then...high capacity mags and high powered ammunition.

From this pattern of pushing....it looks like they will contrive new identifications which enable them to augment over time.
Its gun grab in slow motion.
One arena where they can strip weapons off you is via movement on roads.
You move the weapon in a vehicle....they just take it,...it'll cost you 50 grand in legal fee's to win it back.
This TSA,Viper/Homeland Reich system of falling on people outside their home is like a net...
then they can isolate anyone via info records...and say it was an arsenal...and so and so was a mentally unstable person....they can even blow the fuggin place up with tanks,... the sheeple will buy it.
and they fuggin will....cuz stuff like that. = more funding and more neato weapons with mechanized...for the militarized cop suckers.
and ya....the media luv's the drama....a militarized policeman firing a Javelin into a house.....the owner was a prepper cult who refused to come out...and had an arsenal.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2012-12-19   22:53:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#19. To: Parrot with speed dial, titorite, 4um (#18)

And so it begins - in faster than slow motion - the Dimwits and their MSM soldiers are cagier than we have given them credit:

www.reuters.com/article/2...cut-idUSBRE8BI1BV20121220

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Blumenthal said, as he asks people in town if there is anything he can do, they tell him: "Yes. Do something about guns."

scrapper2  posted on  2012-12-19   23:48:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#20. To: farmfriend (#0)

Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that a masked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shots - more than she could count - that went "on and on."

How could the principal have survived to give this statement to local press describing what happened ... if she was one of the first to be killed? Incidentally, The Newtown Bee's article was taken down yesterday. Of course, a plausible explanation is that a reporter mistook another teacher for the principal.

We were initially told that two handguns - a Glock and a Sig Sauer - were found next to the body of the dead shooter, while a third weapon, a .223-caliber rifle was also recovered "in the trunk of a car" later, in the school's parking lot. All of the weapons were allegedly legally bought and registered in Nancy Lanza's name. The car was later identified as a black Honda, also registered in her name. More weapons have since been introduced to the story but we'll get back to those later on.

Besides anonymous 'law enforcement officials' telling the media that Adam Lanza was a former pupil at the school, they also said his mother was currently a teacher there, that she was found among the dead and that her son had specifically sought out her classroom first. But when it emerged that teaching staff at the school had never heard of a Nancy Lanza, it was suggested that she was a substitute teacher whose name therefore mightn't appear on staff lists.

But this claim too has disappeared down the memory hole because it's now known that neither Nancy nor her son had any connection with the school whatsoever. Adam Lanza was in fact home-schooled. Nancy Lanza has since been painted as a "survivalist" who loved firearms, taught her sons how to shoot and was "stockpiling" because she was "worried about economic collapse."

Daily Mail, UK
December 16, 2012
Last night it also emerged Nancy was a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world.

Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home 'into a fortress'. She added: 'Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns. She had them for defense.

'She was stockpiling food. She grew up on a farm in New Hampshire. She was skilled with guns. We talked about preppers and preparing for the economy collapsing.'

It's not difficult to see that their efforts to insinuate that Nancy Lanza was somehow responsible for this massacre by being an irresponsible mother also serve to rile the large contingent of gun owners in the country, particularly the far right who see a conspiracy on the government's part to "take back our guns." More on that later, but for now I just want to note that all of the Lanza family members seemed to live more or less normal middle-class lives. Yes, the parents were divorced but it was apparently amicable and both put their own needs second to those of their children (and anyway, divorce in the US these days is decidedly 'normal middle class').

Despite "family insiders" claiming that he was a "deeply disturbed kid", Adam Lanza, like so many other alleged 'lone(r) gunmen' before him, does not fit the profile of a mass-murdering maniac. His 24-year-old brother, Ryan Lanza, said he hadn't seen his brother since 2010. This fact brings into question Ryan's claim that his younger brother may have had his identity card on his person at the school shooting. Although perhaps the question that needs to be asked here is, why would a person bother to carry identification with them after going to the trouble of dressing up in a bullet-proof vest, mask and black camouflage gear and going on a killing spree ...

The live emergency services audio feed from the scene reveals some interesting observations from first responders that have been completely overlooked by the mainstream media. Note that the unedited version lasts over two hours, so the abridged version I'm going to quote from has a compressed sequence of events that are not in real time. In this abridged version, we hear at 1.38' a report that gunfire is still being heard, even though the shooting was supposed to have ended by the time police arrived. The next report at 2.35' says that the shooting has stopped and the school is "in lockdown". At 3.23', the police relay a teacher's report that she saw "two shadows running past the gym" [not "two shooters", as we previously reported on SOTT.net]. This is followed by another officer on the scene who says, "Yeh, we got 'em, they're coming at me! ... [inaudible] ... Coming up the driveway real slowly!" That same officer at 5.40' says he has them "proned out", which presumably means he has apprehended them and they are laid out on the ground, before another officer comes on to say, "be aware that we do have a second [inaudible] ..."

Later on, at 19.10', an officer who sounds out of breath, like he's just given chase, reports what I think sounds like "these guys" followed certainly by "multiple weapons, including long rifles and shotgun". If these were found so early on, why were they not included in the initial press reports which stated that three firearms had been found - the above mentioned Glock, Sig Sauer and Bushmaster AR-15 rifle? Further conflicting, and possibly planted evidence was thrown into the mix by 'law enforcement officials' when they published video footage of a long weapon being retrieved from the trunk of a car. Look closely and you'll see that it's a shotgun, not a rifle. In addition, this 'discovery' was made late in the day (it's dark outside), while the Bushmaster rifle was first reported found in the trunk of a car much earlier in the day.

Besides the above two suspects "proned out" in front of the school, another suspected gunman was apprehended after he gave chase, this time in the woods next to the school:

The police are clearly chasing someone whom they appear to apprehend in the middle of the woods next to the school, a fact confirmed by several eyewitnesses:

This fleeing suspect, wearing camouflage gear, a bulletproof vest and armed with four guns, has since disappeared from media coverage. Who was this person and how did he know what "it" was when he protested that "I didn't do it"?

Perhaps most astonishingly, this suspect arrested in the woods was named in an Associated Press report as 24-year-old Ryan Lanza. The original report has long since vanished of course, but you can see it referenced here. This was despite the fact that Ryan had already been named as the deceased suspect inside the school, lying next to two handguns.

Ryan Lanza was actually at work in Hoboken, New Jersey, that morning when his name and photo began circulating in the media. And so, for most of Friday, the 'lone shooter' was erroneously reported as "Ryan Lanza, confirmed dead." At the same time, we were being told that Ryan's girlfriend and a room-mate were reported missing, also from Hoboken, New Jersey.

So this isn't just a case of mistaken identity, as later claimed when it was suggested that Adam had a piece of identification belonging to his brother on his person. Not one, but BOTH Lanza brothers were being placed by 'law enforcement officials' at the scene of the shooting. It could be that Ryan's quick reflexes to leave his workplace to get on a bus to go back to his apartment while protesting innocence via his Facebook page may have saved his life.

Now remember, all of this confusion somehow resulted from a single guy going into a school and shooting children and teachers and then shooting himself, all within three minutes. Surely it should have been fairly easy to rapidly and concretely identify the details of such a crime and the scene.

What it's starting to look like is that the Lanzas were framed for this mass shooting in advance. Long before any suspects were named, and even as we were being told that Nancy Lanza was among the dead at the school, we were told that police were investigating a murder in ... Hoboken, New Jersey, where a body had been found at the home of ... Ryan Lanza! An older "confirmed" version of events had RYAN, not Adam, travelling to Hoboken that morning to murder his father before going to the school in Newtown, Connecticut. Other variants had Ryan OR Adam going to both their divorced parents' homes and killing them before going to the school.

The narrative has now settled on the younger brother killing his mother in Newtown then going to the school. So what about the rest of it? Do we just put it down to 'keen' journalism that was having a field day last Friday as media outlets sought to bring us the latest 'breaking news'? Confusion and 'Chinese whispers' undoubtedly play a part in the early stages of national media events, but I think back to those news anchors reading scripts about Osama Bin Laden within minutes of the first plane being hit on 9/11 and I think, 'Wait a minute!' All these misleading reports had to have been issued by someone or some people "confirming" to Associated Press and other media outlets that the Ryans's father had been murdered [he wasn't even aware that the shooting at the school had taken place until journalists turned up on his doorstep], or that Ryan's girlfriend had gone missing from Hoboken, or that either Ryan or Adam were pulled out of the adjacent woods in handcuffs yelling "I DIDN'T DO IT" to assembled parents. These aren't just 'little details' that can be confused for other details, these are detailed narratives. So how, or why, would any member of the press come up with such details? They strike me as a set of alternative scenarios that might have found their way into the official narrative had facts on the ground turned out differently.

Watch this snippet of State Police Lt. Paul Vance at the press conference he gave the day after the shootings. His answer is as bizarre as it is revealing. When asked whether Nancy Lanza had any connection with the school, he replied defensively about something that is both unrelated and arguably the most significant fact that completely undermines the official narrative: the arrest of a second gunman in the woods:

Most of the initial mainstream media reports have since been rewritten to fit 'new' facts proclaimed by 'law enforcement officials'. Here's an example from Business Insider. The following excerpts are the opening paragraphs from the 'same' article, one earlier original version, followed by the later revised version:

The massacre [...] was reportedly perpetrated with a .233 caliber rifle, a Glock pistol and a Sig Sauer pistol. The Bushmaster rifle was found in the trunk of the shooter's car. The Sig Sauer and Glock pistols were the only weapons used in the shooting, according to CBS. Now the question is what kind of magazine would allow a shooter to fire "100" rounds in such a short period.

Indeed, I was wondering the same thing. How could two pistols do so much damage? The report was updated as follows:

The massacre in Connecticut that's taken the lives of at least 26 people was reportedly perpetrated with a .223 caliber rifle, a Glock pistol and a Sig Sauer pistol, according to NBC: The shooter was using one Sig Sauer and one Glock pistol, according to CNN. Later details emerged that the primary weapon was the Bushmaster "assault-style" rifle. Altogether, though, it doesn't matter what type of weapon the shooter used. The bottom line is that it was likely a magazine fed, semi-automatic, with enough rounds to shoot "100 shots" in a matter of minutes, as quoted in USA Today.

What actually happened may not matter to some, but surely a journalist's role is to at least try to find out?

This Associated Press/Newsday article on Saturday, December 15th, reported that "Only the rifle was used on the victims", a statement that is supported by Dr. H. Wayne Carver II, Connecticut state's chief medical examiner. Of the seven autopsies he personally performed on Sandy Hook victims, all of them had "three to 11 wounds apiece". He also said that the 'gunman' used a military-style rifle rigged to quickly reload, and that the 'shooter' was able to reload so quickly because he had "taped two magazines together." Even before the State Chief Medical Examiner had given these statements, it had been stated that spent shell casings from .233-caliber (rifle) bullets were found inside the school.

So all the victims' wounds were the result of rifle-fire, specifically from "the rifle", the one we were told in early reports was found in the trunk of a car in the parking lot! This is simply not credible.

Remember that only "the rifle" was used on all the victims. If only this rifle was used, and if we try to make this claim fit into the (admittedly fluid) official version of events, then the alleged lone gunman would have had to leave the school, place the rifle back in his trunk, then return inside the school and shoot himself. No one reported any such maneuver on the part of any gunman or gunmen. What we do have, however, is live emergency services radio feed in which we hear that two men have been apprehended and are "proned out" AND live video footage supported by eyewitness testimony showing what appears to be a THIRD man being arrested by police in the woods.

We can see how the authorities' hands are tied because they need to fit all the facts into the usual 'lone gunman' narrative. For that, there can only be ONE rifle and a couple of handguns. The problem is that they have already claimed to find that solitary Bushmaster rifle in the trunk of a car in the school parking lot, so the earliest police reports of a cache of long arms being found inside the school will no longer fit with the lone gunman narrative, especially as they're now saying that he had already opened fire as he burst into the school.

Could "scrawny" 20-year-old Adam Lanza have stormed the school, solo Rambo-style, while carrying "multiple long arms, including rifles and shotguns"? Only one person was wounded. Everyone else who was shot was killed. How could Adam Lanza achieve such deadly accuracy, in such a short length of recorded time?

Initial reports put the beginning of the shooting in the school administrators' office, where someone, reportedly the school principal, had a row with the gunman(men). We know this because someone supposedly turned on the school intercom system, alerting the teaching staff to the loud swearing and commotion in the principal's office and probably saving many more children from being gunned down as teachers took measures to hide the children in closets.

One brave teacher, Kaitlin Roig, bundled a bunch of children into a bathroom and locked the door. What's interesting about her testimony to ABC News is that when police arrived and asked her to open the door, she refused, saying that "if they were really cops, they'd know where to find keys to open the door." In addition, she requested that they slide their badges under the door.

Now, this is generally a smart thing to do in any and all interactions with the police, especially in the U.S. But to have the wherewithal to do so under such traumatic circumstances strongly suggests that Ms. Roig had logically deduced by that point that multiple perpetrators were involved, and that they were either impersonating police officers or were indistinguishable from SWAT team police commandos, either in the way they dressed or the way they behaved upon entering the building. It also reminds us just how narrow the time window of the actual shooting was. The shooting appears to have barely ended when men knocked on that bathroom door and told Ms. Roig they were police.

There are also conflicting reports about how the gunmen entered the building. We were told initially that they came in through the main front entrance and proceeded straight to the administrators'/principal's offices. But Sandy Hook elementary school has a security system with a video monitor, which allows staff to screen visitors before buzzing them in. A "masked gunman dressed in black tactical combat gear" from head to toe would kinda raise red flags, don't you think?

Another possible anomaly is that Victoria Soto, one of the teachers killed at the school, appears to have had an 'in memoriam' Facebook page created in her name four days before the shooting.

Regarding this alleged 'LIBOR scandal' connection between this shooting and the Aurora theater shooting, there is as yet zero evidence to support the claim that either father of Lanza or Holmes were going to testify to anyone about anything, so for now this must remain just another rumor. I rather think that this is being spread to create the impression of a direct link that can be easily refuted, as in a straw man argument. The obvious and direct link staring everyone in the face is that the U.S. government's accounts of these events are hocus-pocus. The glaring connection between these two shootings, the Sikh Temple shooting and the Fort Hood shooting is that multiple gunmen were reported at the time by eyewitnesses, but they are now all officially claimed to have been carried out by 'lone gunmen'. This logically tells us that the real perpetrators are being protected with cover stories of what really happened because if the truth were known, some section of the U.S. government would be implicated.

Wade Michael Page, the 'lone gunman' in the Sikh Temple shooting in Wisconsin in August this year, was a highly decorated U.S. army psychological operations specialist, according to the Pentagon. But what happened to the three other gunmen seen by witnesses? It can't surely be coincidence that Wade was (former?) military psy-ops. The thought has crossed my mind more than once during the aftermath of the Connecticut shooting. Others too have suggested this was a 'false-flag' event, or that Lanza was some sort of Manchurian Candidate.

But maybe there's a simpler explanation (albeit more outrageous) than that? Was that really Adam Lanza they found inside the school? Do we even know for a fact that one of the gunmen was found dead inside the school? What we have instead are reports of two or three masked gunmen, apparently all dressed similarly in black tactical gear from head to toe, being wilfully forgotten about at best, or protected by the state at worst. Based on the authorities' persistent but futile efforts to connect the Lanzas to this school, the multiple eyewitness reports of two shooters, the Connecticut State Medical Examiner's report that all the victims were riddled with bullets from a rifle that we're simultaneously being asked to believe was in the trunk of a car the whole time, similar reports of multiple shooters in previous mass shootings in recent years and the media focusing the emotional outcry onto the hot-button topic of gun control ... I'm left wondering if this was actually the work of some highly trained professional hit team?

Was the massacre at Sandy Hook elementary school in Newtown, Connecticut, a psy-op, using what amounts to a 'death squad' and a carefully planned mission to terrorise people on behalf of the government, in combination with perception management to shape the narrative and vector the emotional fallout?

Gun control isn't the issue here. The US government would long since have taken measures, quietly, to limit the supply of weapons, the 2nd Amendment of the constitution be damned (it's "just a goddamned piece of paper", remember?), if it was really concerned with limiting civilian access to weapons.

The psychopaths in power have absolutely no compunction about using state terrorism, in this case organising the deliberate massacre of innocent children, to control people. In effect, this is little different from the U.S. government calls counter-insurgency or counter-terrorism in foreign countries, where it attacks innocent civilians to create the impression that they were killed by 'communists', 'terrorists', 'insurgents' or 'militants', with the aim of generating public support for the illusion that the common people need a strong, ruthless government to protect them from the 'evil-doers'. When the common people buy into this manipulation, the end result, as history shows repeatedly, is an overt and brutal police state.

Niall Bradley

Niall Bradley has been an editor at Sott.net since 2009. He is also an editor of Sott.net's print publication, the Dot Connector Magazine and has appeared as a guest commentator on Press TV. Niall has written numerous articles for Sott.net, where he focuses on analysing geo-political trends in the context of so-called climate change.

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The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

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Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-19   23:57:48 ET  (2 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#21. To: James Deffenbach (#20)

What it's starting to look like is that the Lanzas were framed for this mass shooting in advance.

Yes, I tend to agree that MSM is dumping on the Mom bigtime - took the troubled "kid" ( 20 years old?) to target practice - kept guns in the home tho "the kid" had "developmental problems" ( not that ANYONE should ever dare associate VIOLENCE with Aspergers or autism!!! autism is a perfectly normal former DSM mental disease)- she went out for drinks on a regular basis to the local pub ( God forbid - harlot!) - she quit her job and lived the life of Riley on the ex-husband's dime, who gave MUCH MORE ALIMONY $ than he was legally required ( GE accounting head honcho and partner of Ernest and Young gets a free pass curiously enough from MSM even tho he didn't visit his psycho youngest son for 6 months while living only 15 minutes away)...and the final nail in the coffin of the deceased Mom who cannot defend her character is the fact that she is a PREPPER!!!! cover your ears and eyes...

scrapper2  posted on  2012-12-20   0:23:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#22. To: scrapper2 (#19) (Edited)

when Lanza entered Soto's classroom she tried to throw him off by telling him the students were at the other end of the school in an auditorium, the Hartford Courant reported, citing unnamed law-enforcement officials.

Lanza shot six of the children when they tried to run, and police later found the remaining seven students still hiding in the closet, the Courant said. Those children told law enforcement officials what had happened, the Courant reported.

Parrot: the above account is pure bullshit!
the hero teacher.....unnamed law enforcement official.

Those children told law enforcement officials what had happended

Ya...you tell a lie...and then close the deal with the Law enforcement official seal of approval.

This event reeks of controlled media and spin by ....Law enforcement officials.

No way ...Adam Lanza does this event alone....and is reasonably the patsy...while others do the shooting.......and then blow him away.

Parrot with speed dial  posted on  2012-12-20   0:30:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#23. To: scrapper2 (#21)

the final nail in the coffin of the deceased Mom who cannot defend her character is the fact that she is a PREPPER!!!! cover your ears and eyes...

A harlot AND a prepper!?!?! When word of that gets out human ears won't be able to stand the screeching and caterwauling.

Liberty is not a means to a higher political end. It is itself the highest political end.    Lord Acton

The human herd stampedes on the fields of facts and the valleys of truth to get to the desert of ignorance. Saman Mohammadi

"If a politician found he had cannibals among his constituents, he would promise them missionaries for dinner." Mencken

"..if the military is going to defend our freedoms, then we need freedoms to defend. Our freedoms must be restored before the military can defend them..."  Lawrence M. Vance

Você me trata desse jeito só porque eu sou preto. Junior (my youngest son)

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-20   1:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#24. To: farmfriend, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#0)

Regarding this alleged 'LIBOR scandal' connection between this shooting and the Aurora theater shooting, there is as yet zero evidence to support the claim that either father of Lanza or Holmes were going to testify to anyone about anything, so for now this must remain just another rumor. I rather think that this is being spread to create the impression of a direct link that can be easily refuted, as in a straw man argument. The obvious and direct link staring everyone in the face is that the U.S. government's accounts of these events are hocus-pocus. The glaring connection between these two shootings, the Sikh Temple shooting and the Fort Hood shooting is that multiple gunmen were reported at the time by eyewitnesses, but they are now all officially claimed to have been carried out by 'lone gunmen'. This logically tells us that the real perpetrators are being protected with cover stories of what really happened because if the truth were known, some section of the U.S. government would be implicated.

The author mentions nothing of the acting though.

"For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth, to know the worst, and to provide for it.” ~ Patrick Henry

wudidiz  posted on  2012-12-27   18:48:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#25. To: wudidiz (#24)

Newtown school shooting, continuation of Colorado theatre shooting?

All the story came from the media and authority. So far no witness' field report. It is just like "Operation Geronimo". They let "seal" gave different stories which often conflicts each other. It looked like they try to kill all witness as possible as they can. Include Nancy Lanza who might prove something different from official story.

Have you noticed that Adam Lanza wore a mask?
Do you know that James Holmes wore gas mask in Colorado theatre shooting?

Nobody could recognize who actually did the shooting.

[QUOTE]

Iran’s state-run news network blames ‘Israeli death squads’ for Sandy Hook shooting

Posted by Max Fisher on December 18, 2012

According to the official story, Adam Lanza was found with his older brother’s ID, and it was not stolen. However, older brother Ryan – whom officials say is very cooperative – claims not to have even seen his brother since 2010. Where would Adam get this ID? And why does such use not qualify as a theft?

According to the official story, Adam Lanza was wearing a black outfit with a mask and bulletproof vest. Why would he want to hide his identity, and why would he wear a bulletproof vest if he planned to kill himself?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/worldviews/wp/2012/12/18/irans-state-run-news-network-blames-israeli-death-squads-for-sandy-hook-shooting/
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[QUOTE]
James Holmes, Aurora shooting suspect, was grad school dropout and loner, say neighbors

The suspected Colorado movie mass murderer was a loner and a grad school dropout who described himself last year as “quiet and easy-going” on a rental application.

By Nancy Dillon In San Diego AND Larry Mcshane / NEW YORK DAILY NEWS

Holmes, who wore a gas mask and black full-body armor during his attack, was not a military veteran and had no ties to any terrorist groups, officials said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/james-holmes-aurora-shooting-suspect-med-school-dropout-loner-neighbors-article-1.1118501#ixzz2FX0XxfbM

Itistoolate  posted on  2012-12-27   19:35:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#26. To: James Deffenbach, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#20)

Daily Mail, UK
December 16, 2012

Last night it also emerged Nancy was a member of the Doomsday Preppers movement, which believes people should prepare for end of the world. Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home 'into a fortress'. She added: 'Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns. She had them for defense.

'She was stockpiling food. She grew up on a farm in New Hampshire. She was skilled with guns. We talked about preppers and preparing for the economy collapsing.'

guardian.co.uk: The scapegoating of Nancy Lanza by Lionel Shriver

Nancy Lanza has been disparaged from the start. Multiple stories have pegged her as a "prepper" – a survivalist gearing up for economic collapse by stocking weapons and tinned food. Yet this gonzo tag hails from a single, biased source, Nancy's sister-in-law, and has since been contradicted by friends.

According to websearches, that would be her ex-sister-in-law, Marsha Lanza of Crystal Lake, Illinois -- married to Michael Lanza, brother of Nancy Lanza's ex- husband, Peter J. (aka P.J.) Lanza of Stamford, Connecticut. However, this is what comes up in a websearch for Michael Lanza:

Michael Peter Lanza was born in 1951. Michael currently lives in Crystal Lake, Illinois. Before that, Michael lived in Cary, IL in 2007. Before that, Michael lived in Crystal Lake, IL in 2004.

Michael Peter Lanza is related to Marsha Lanza, who is 57 years old and lives in Crystal Lake, IL. Michael Peter Lanza is also related to Andrew Lanza, who is 20 years old and lives in Crystal Lake, IL. Michael Peter Lanza is also related to Michael Lanza, who is 29 years old and lives in Honolulu, HI.

The Michael Lanza name there linked twice to States associated with Obama, in addition to the middle-name of Peter linked to Lanza, Peter/P.J. of Connecticut.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-28   4:02:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#27. To: GreyLmist (#26)

That whole episode smells worse than a barrel of rotten fish. The Medical Examiner said that all the victims had been shot with "the rifle" but they took "the rifle" out of the car.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-28   10:25:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#28. To: James Deffenbach, All (#27)

That whole episode smells worse than a barrel of rotten fish. The Medical Examiner said that all the victims had been shot with "the rifle" but they took "the rifle" out of the car.

At 1:16 in the news-footage video below, there is a vehicle with the word Ambulance spelled backwards but not the word Oxford above it:

CRAZY FOOTAGE Eyewitness Recounts Connecticut Elementary School Shooting - YouTube

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-30   14:17:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#29. To: GreyLmist (#28)

At 1:16 in the news-footage video below, there is a vehicle with the word Ambulance spelled backwards but not the word Oxford above it:

That's interesting. Wonder how they got one word spelled backwards and not the other one.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-30   14:25:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#30. To: James Deffenbach (#29)

I guess so that when you hear sirens and look in the rear-view that AMBULANCE appears correctly, and you get the heck outta its way.

“The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out... without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane, intolerable.” ~ H. L. Mencken

Lod  posted on  2012-12-30   14:34:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#31. To: Lod (#30)

I guess that could be it. Never had given it any thought.

"It is the habit of unhappiness to rewrite our lives and from a different beginning come to a different ending. We cling to the past and what it could have been; what we wanted, or thought we wanted, before we were taught by a broken heart that our own good intentions have little effect on the way things are."
D. W. Buffa, Breach of Trust

James Deffenbach  posted on  2012-12-30   14:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#32. To: GreyLmist (#28)

Why was the ATF there? at 2:38 You got an ATF Agent and another person whos vest says ATF police... I never heard of ATF police but thats what his armor says.....

Their is also a suit in the same shot on the oppisite side of the ATF losers.

I kinda wonder about getting the suits face and finding out who he is....

FIRE

titorite  posted on  2012-12-30   15:24:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#33. To: James Deffenbach (#29)

That's interesting. Wonder how they got one word spelled backwards and not the other one.

Lod is correct. Both my sisters are paramedics. Ambulance is supposed to be spelled backwards for exactly that rear view reason...

No other word on those wagons matter.

That is not the interesting part....

Because by leaps and bounds their were things worth paying lots and lots of attention too.

FIRE

titorite  posted on  2012-12-30   15:26:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#34. To: titorite, Lod (#33)

Lod: I guess so that when you hear sirens and look in the rear-view that AMBULANCE appears correctly, and you get the heck outta its way.

titorite: Lod is correct. Both my sisters are paramedics. Ambulance is supposed to be spelled backwards for exactly that rear view reason...

Thanks for the explanations. I've never noticed that around here but will look for it.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2012-12-30   16:01:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#35. To: All (#28) (Edited)

At 1:16 in the news-footage video below, there is a vehicle with the word Ambulance spelled backwards but not the word Oxford above it:

CRAZY FOOTAGE Eyewitness Recounts Connecticut Elementary School Shooting - YouTube

2 min. YouTube: Oxford CT High School shooting drill

Uploaded on Aug 12, 2007 by keepryt [My note: + points out in the Comments section that the word "disaster" is misspelled in the FOX News graphics at 0:15]

mock shooting at the Oxford CT High School on 8/11/07

Edited to note that those who are attired in green military-type uniforms and helmets are described in this video as CT State Police/First Responders. See also pics at envipcotech.com for 08-11-07 Oxford CT High School Shooting Drill. Militarized State Police example-pic:

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-02   4:49:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#36. To: titorite (#32) (Edited)

at 2:38 You got an ATF Agent and another person whos vest says ATF police... I never heard of ATF police but thats what his armor says.....

Interesting point.

Edited for highlighting.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-02   5:00:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#37. To: All (#35) (Edited)

Edited to note that those who are attired in green military-type uniforms and helmets are described in this video as CT State Police/First Responders. See also pics at envipcotech.com for 08-11-07 Oxford CT High School Shooting Drill. Militarized State Police example-pic:

Cross-referencing video at Post #18 of 4um Title: "BREAKING NEWS CT School Shooter Killer Link To LIBOR SCANDAL" for another probable example in Oregon of Militarized State Police (not SWAT teams) at 0:34-0:49.

Oregon Mall Shooting Woman on Heroic Act by Macy's Employee at Clackamas Town Center - YouTube [3.25 mins.]

Edited to add quotation marks for 4um thread title readability and adjusted timestamp marker to lengthen the view 10 seconds.

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"They're on our left, they're on our right, they're in front of us, they're behind us...they can't get away this time." -- Col. Puller, USMC

GreyLmist  posted on  2013-01-02   5:47:31 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#38. To: GreyLmist (#28)

I am bumping this to point out that at 101 you can see a second banner behind the first.

They overlaid.

The second one behind the first one says "et 26 people are"... and that is all I can read off it. That and it was 153 pm and 44 degrees

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titorite  posted on  2013-01-26   7:58:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#39. To: All, wudidiz, GreyLmist, *No Planers* (#38)

at 3:05 we see a fire man..

NO PLANERS!!!!! YO

at 3:05 we see a fire man.

He rolls into the scene at the 3:00 minute mark...

Why am I repeating myself?

Because he looks familiar as all get out.

Do yall agree?

That he might be a recycled actor?....

I can not do a windows vista cut and paste but if someone could run the fat mans face through an image search to see if he pops up a 911 responder that might be really really helpful....

It remains speculation on my part for now... but I swear it was close enough I thought I would point it out to all.

___FIRE

titorite  posted on  2013-01-26   8:07:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#40. To: titorite (#39)

"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-26   13:17:13 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

#41. To: All (#40)

http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=h-FAOnBR0Q4

letsrollforums.com/happened-9-11-firemen-t24265.html

"Freethinkers are those who are willing to use their minds without prejudice and without fearing to understand things that clash with their own customs, privileges, or beliefs. This state of mind is not common, but it is essential for right thinking; where it is absent, discussion is apt to become worse than useless." ~ Leo Tolstoy

wudidiz  posted on  2013-01-26   14:06:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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