Some public officers have very poor media relations skills, and Dr. H. Wayne Carver is among those.
Because of the very nature of the duties of the Office of Medical Examiner (or coroner, a common law elected position that has been replaced in many jurisdictions) most do not employ press relations people. The duties also seem to attract ghoulish doctors, some of who would likely fail in private practice. (Viewing the video speaks for itself.)
Do any of you kiddies remember what a weirdo "The Coroner To The Stars", Dr. Thomas Noguchi was?
He finally went too far and was fired when he speculated about the death of Natalie Wood, weaving a press conference scenario of how she may have fallen from a boat with no way of knowing if his account resembled the facts.
Carver's attempts at levity (it was a spree killing at a school you goddam weirdo) was not only in extremely poor taste but it also demonstrates just how socially deprived/disordered he is. (Here's a hint, Doctor. When no one returns your smiles get serious and remember that it isn't about you, you inept and disgusting tub of shit)
Also, his layer of blubber and possible use of narcotics (used by many doctors and health care professionals with access to them) may reduce his sensitivity to cold. When I take opiates or synthetic equivalents I'm less susceptible to wind chill.
his layer of blubber and possible use of narcotics (used by many doctors and health care professionals with access to them) may reduce his sensitivity to cold. When I take opiates or synthetic equivalents I'm less susceptible to wind chill.
Noted, although he's much less critical, imo, concerning investigations of observed weather-effect anomalies than are more pertinent examples of others and the landscape on Dec 14th. There were no calm winds reported for Newton from 9:00 a.m. until 6 p.m. on that date. Winds were between a low of 4 mph and a high of 11.5 mph the entire time for daylight-condtions re: allegedly filming outdoors and other factors in question like noticeable movements or not of things such as hair, breath-vapor, tree branches, leaves, etc.; people in thin shirts -- especially children -- appearing not to be cold after supposedly being outside for quite a while; many parents and adults seemingly unconcerned about children without warmer clothing in-transit to and from the fire station and during interviews. From midnight until the hour of 11 a.m., temperatures decreased for 8 hours far below the freezing point (from 23 to 21 degrees), then went to very near freezing (34 degrees) for 2 hours until 11 a.m. when it registered at 40 degrees but went no higher in the afternoon than 46 degrees for the 3 hours of 3 p.m. through 5 p.m. -- dropping rapidly from there during the hour of 5 p.m. (approx. sunset) to very near the freezing point again at 6 p.m. (33 degrees) and steadily dropping below freezing therafter to 26 degrees through 11 p.m.; with the winds and humidity impacting the windchill factor, which would make it seem colder than the logged temperatures.
There were no calm winds reported for Newton from 9:00 a.m. until 6 p.m. on that date. Winds were between a low of 4 mph and a high of 11.5 mph the entire time for daylight-condtions re: allegedly filming outdoors and other factors in question like noticeable movements or not of things such as hair, tree branches, leaves, breath-vapor, etc.; people in thin shirts -- especially children -- appearing not to be cold after supposedly being outside for quite a while; many parents and adults seemingly unconcerned about children without warmer clothing in-transit to and from the fire station and during interviews. From midnight until the hour of 11 a.m., temperatures decreased for 8 hours far below the freezing point (from 23 to 21 degrees), then went to very near freezing (34 degrees) for 2 hours until 11 a.m. when it registered at 40 degrees but went no higher in the afternoon than 46 degrees for the 3 hours of 3 p.m. through 5 p.m. -- dropping rapidly from there during the hour of 5 p.m. (approx. sunset) to very near the freezing point again at 6 p.m. (33 degrees) and steadily dropping below freezing therafter to 26 degrees through 11 p.m.; with the winds and humidity impacting the windchill factor, which would make it seem colder than the logged temperatures.
Please try to post more relevant info if you're going to give a weather report.
First off, the children did not begin to leave the school till somewhere around 10 AM. At that time, the temperature was 38 degrees with a 7 mph wind. The temperature then climbed steadily up to 48 degrees through 3 PM. The winds ranged from 5 to 12 mph during that timeframe.
You can report weather at 11 PM and say that it was freezing, but so what? These events did not happen at 11 PM at night, so why even bother bringing it up?
As far as your claims of "thin shirts" and all that, can you post an image of any examples?
Concerning "seeing" the breaths of people outdoors, that usually doesn't happen unless the humidity is high and the difference between the dew point and actual temperature is 5 degrees or less. Throughout the timeframe of the evacuation and reuniting of the children and their parents, the difference was greater than that, so not seeing condensation is to be expected. In fact it'd be quite odd if there HAD been condensation at those temperatures on a sunny day.
As far as wind, there are signs of wind in various clips. You won't see the tree branches sway at those wind speeds however.
In terms of clothing, all of the images I've seen appear consistant with what people would wear in those conditions, with some children wearing heavy winter coats, while others wore sweatshirts or light jackets.
You again are gyrating around some dubious claims in an effort to conclude that this was all shot in a Hollywood studio. Get a grip of yourself.
I posted a summary of the weather for the day at Newtown, CT from the nearby Danbury Municipal Airport (not somewhere out West, like your college-reference) with a link to verify. That you post something conflicting doesn't make mine wrong. I sort of suspect your MesoWest site and maybe you too are linked to the NSA facility in Mormonly-covert Utah. Regardless, take a hike and find somebody else to talk to.
I sort of suspect your MesoWest site and maybe you too are linked to the NSA facility
I sort of suspect you work for the folks at Fort Meade, that or Tel Aviv. You toss out these "it was all done in Hollywood" tales on sensitive topics, such as 9/11 and now the Sandy Hook shootings, to make anyone who questions the official tale look like an idiot or worse.
There ARE some serious questions that need to be asked about this case. However, insisting that it was all done in a studio, that there were no children killed that morning, and that all of the town is fake, the people are all actors, well, that's something somebody would post if they are ACTIVELY PARTICIPATING in the COVER UP itself of what REALLY happened that morning.
#83. To: James Deffenbach, X-15, christine, Jethro Tull, titorite, FormerLurker, Esso, GreyLmist (#74)
Oh good grief is right. But you know what they say, speak in haste, repent at leisure.
Eactly.
I sense defensive and hastily posted replies that are needless. No one's stock will ever drop in my eyes because he or she failed to parry and thrust before the Sun rises....
In fact at Liberty Forum NewsReader once savaged me in a lengthy post that he hoped would warrant an immediate and detailed counterattack.
"That's mee", I replied. Everyone laffed and all was well.
I may be one of the worst ones to give anyone any advice but when I find that I just can't get along with someone at all and know that no matter what I say they are never going to change their mind I will usually add them to the kill file. Or as some call it the bozo filter. Not in every case but in most cases. Especially with people who are disrespectful and who seem to be ineducable.
edit: Just to be sure everyone understands what I am saying here, I am not calling either poster engaged in this contretemps ineducable. Only that some people seem to be and that could just be personality conflicts, I don't know. I just know life is too short for such things.
I may be one of the worst ones to give anyone any advice but when I find that I just can't get along with someone at all and know that no matter what I say they are never going to change their mind I will usually add them to the kill file. Or as some call it the bozo filter. Not in every case but in most cases. Especially with people who are disrespectful and who seem to be ineducable.
edit: Just to be sure everyone understands what I am saying here, I am not calling either poster engaged in this contretemps ineducable. Only that some people seem to be and that could just be personality conflicts, I don't know. I just know life is too short for such things.
*bozo filter*
No my friend, it needed to be said and in fact the idea crossed my mind not 20 minutes ago.
And like you I concluded that the circs do not warrant such a drastic remedy, nor would I relish losing two interesting and passionate posters from my circle of trust.
My concern is that this place could steadily degenerate into Goldi Land II. And then I'd no longer have a home, a sanctuary where friends share my happiness, my heartaches, my tears and fears, and then I'd be a lost old man adrift in a virtual sea, trying to avoid the net that is cast so wide that only the CIA could be the primary beneficiary.
And like you I concluded that the circs do not warrant such a drastic remedy, nor would I relish losing two interesting and passionate posters from my circle of trust.
Neither would I. I don't think of either of them as bozo material, was just thinking that if they couldn't get along then it might be something they would want to consider. Or not. I assume they both know it is available so I really don't need to say any more about it.
